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Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Csonice1: 11:12pm On Aug 12, 2020
AntiChristian:
By Austin Cline

Christians point to Jesus’ resurrection as one of the things which distinguish Christianity from all other religions. After all, the founders of other religions (like Muhammad salallahu 'alayhi wa salam and Buddha) are all dead; Jesus conquered death. Or did he? For something so important and central to the message, theology, and very nature of Christianity, it’s curious that the gospel authors would all have such radically different stories about what happened.

Jesus’ First Resurrection Appearance
The resurrection of someone dead is an important event, but the Gospels don’t seem to know where and when Jesus first appeared.
Mark 16:14-15 - Jesus appears to Mary Magdalena, but it’s not clear where (in older endings of Mark, he didn’t appear at all)
Matthew 28:8-9 - Jesus first appears near his tomb
Luke 24:13-15 - Jesus first appears near Emmaus, several miles from Jerusalem
John 20:13-14 - Jesus first appears at his tomb

Who Sees Jesus First?
Mark - Jesus appears first to Mary Magdalena then later to “the eleven”
Matthew - Jesus appears first to Mary Magdalena, then to the other Mary, and finally to ”the eleven”
Luke - Jesus appears first to “two,” then to Simon, then to “the eleven”
John - Jesus appears first to Mary Magdalena, then the disciples without Thomas, then the disciples with Thomas

Women’s Reactions to the Empty Tomb
The gospels agree that the empty tomb was found by women (though not which women), but what did the women do?
Mark 16:8 - The women were amazed and afraid, so they kept quiet
Matthew 28:6-8 - The women ran away “with great joy.”
Luke 24:9-12 - The women left the tomb and told the disciples
John 20:1-2 - Mary told the disciples that the body had been stolen

Jesus’ Behavior After His Resurrection
If someone rises from the dead, his actions should be significant, but the gospels don’t agree on how Jesus first behaved
Mark 16:14-15 - Jesus commissions “the eleven” to preach the gospel
Matthew 28:9 - Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and another Mary hold his feet
John 20:17 - Jesus forbids Mary to touch him because he hasn’t ascended to heaven yet, but a week later he lets Thomas touch him anyway

Doubting Jesus’ Resurrection
If Jesus rose from the dead, how did his disciples take the news?
Mark 16:11, Luke 24:11 - Everyone doubts and is scared or both at first, but eventually they go along with it
Matthew 28:16 - Some doubt, but most believe
John 20:24-28 - Everyone believes but Thomas, whose doubts are eliminated when he gets physical proof

Jesus Ascends to Heaven
It wasn’t enough that Jesus rises from the dead; he also had to ascend to heaven. But where, when, and how did this happen?
Mark 16:14-19 - Jesus ascends while he and his disciples are seated at a table in or near Jerusalem
Matthew 28:16-20 - Jesus’ ascension isn’t mentioned at all, but Matthew ends at a mountain in Galilee
Luke 24:50-51- Jesus ascends outside, after dinner, and at Bethany and on the same day as the resurrection
John - Nothing about Jesus’ ascension is mentioned
Acts 1:9-12 - Jesus ascends at least 40 days after his resurrection, at Mt. Olivet.

https://www.learnreligions.com/jesus-resurrection-and-ascension-contradictions-250145

Codetemplar, Sagenaija

Strictly Biblical!

For a true child of God, your assumptions are incorrect.
When you use the word first I believe you are talking about the first time it's mentioned,but it doesn't mean that other events had not occurred before them: all these things you wrote up there can be organized accordingly into a unity that will amaze you. But let me leave that for you; By the Authority In the Name of The Lord Jesus Christ I rebuke the spirit of Antichrist in you. Now.

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Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by advocatejare(m): 8:56am On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:



Why didn't you state the first verse fully? Why are you so adept in telling liars like this?
And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise.
Quran 42:51

And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.
Quran 4:164
It's like you have selective blindness, so I've helped you to embolden the point in your own reference.

In Quran 42:51 Allah or whoever the author of the Quran says that Allah doesn't speak to any human being except by revelation.

But in Quran 4:164 we were told that Allah spoke to Moses, a human being with direct speech.

That's confusion and inaccuracies.





A Day in the sight of Allah is like 1000 years of our reckoning on earth!



The Angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day which is 50,000 years of our reckoning!

The confused Allah, with allah, a day is equivalent to 1000 or 50,000 years of our year of reckoning?

Allah is the best of deceivers, that's why he can't stick to one.

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Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by sagenaija: 9:16am On Aug 13, 2020
I hope AntiChristian will have a TANGIBLE thing to say about the above.

Or will the miracle of Islamic reinterpretation change "of our reckoning" to mean something else?

We'll wait and see.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 9:17am On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Different account means some lied and some are truthful! How can we distinguish?
If five people write a account about an event they saw, do you know that no matter how much they try they cannot give the same account of what they saw. That was what happened here. But unlike your Islam that is not only the issue of different account, but is false. full of bigotry and unhealthy to human civilization
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 11:21am On Aug 13, 2020
delkuf:
If five people write a account about an event they saw, do you know that no matter how much they try they cannot give the same account of what they saw. That was what happened here. But unlike your Islam that is not only the issue of different account, but is false. full of bigotry and unhealthy to human civilization

it is not really about the five people. The five spirit must have being led by the holy spirit. And we expect the holy spirit to be exact since he is the the last third of God. But it seems the holy spirit was not involved in the compilation of the Bible. Many were just writing what they heard happened!

Read what Luke said in Luke 1 vs 1-4
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

As for the Islamic accusation, you can open your thread on that and mention me but not here!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 11:24am On Aug 13, 2020
advocatejare:

It's like you have selective blindness, so I've helped you to embolden the point in your own reference.

In Quran 42:51 Allah or whoever the author of the Quran says that Allah doesn't speak to any human being except by revelation.

But in Quran 4:164 we were told that Allah spoke to Moses, a human being with direct speech.

That's confusion and inaccuracies.







The confused Allah, with allah, a day is equivalent to 1000 or 50,000 years of our year of reckoning?

Allah is the best of deceivers, that's why he can't stick to one.

Open your thread and mention me. I told you this thread is Bibilcal.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 11:26am On Aug 13, 2020
sagenaija:
I hope AntiChristian will have a TANGIBLE thing to say about the above.

Or will the miracle of Islamic reinterpretation change "of our reckoning" to mean something else?

We'll wait and see.

Of cos I won't be discussing the meaning of the Qur'an under the thread of Resurrection and Ascension!

When you're ready you open a thread!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 11:30am On Aug 13, 2020
Csonice1:


For a true child of God, your assumptions are incorrect.
When you use the word first I believe you are talking about the first time it's mentioned,but it doesn't mean that other events had not occurred before them: all these things you wrote up there can be organized accordingly into a unity that will amaze you. But let me leave that for you; By the In the Name of The Lord Jesus Christ I rebuke the spirit of Antichrist in you. Now.

Your prayer no they work at all. I'm not an antichrist as that one will come later and I can't represent him. I am antichristian. My God no get child.

Try and organize am make we see!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 11:33am On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


it is not really about the five people. The five spirit must have being led by the holy spirit. And we expect the holy spirit to be exact since he is the the last third of God. But it seems the holy spirit was not involved in the compilation of the Bible. Many were just writing what they heard happened!

Read what Luke said in Luke 1 vs 1-4
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

As for the Islamic accusation, you can open your thread on that and mention me but not here!
Many didn't write why they heard happened, they were with the Lord Jesus Christ. Look call any thing you what, the Bible is correct and accurate.

And as for the Islamic accusations, I wasn't accusing I was stating what was oblivious that we see every day. I don't need to open a thread, what is happening in Nigeria is enough to show Islam is the religion of the devil. I don't what to kill for 72 virgin or is it 12
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 11:45am On Aug 13, 2020
delkuf:
Many didn't write why they heard happened, they were with the Lord Jesus Christ. Look call any thing you what, the Bible is correct and accurate.

And as for the Islamic accusations, I wasn't accusing I was stating what was oblivious that we see every day. I don't need to open a thread, what is happening in Nigeria is enough to show Islam is the religion of the devil. I don't what to kill for 72 virgin or is it 12

72 virgin or 12? You are not even sure! That shows how sensible some of you are. You hear more but you just don't get to confirm anything you just believe it hook, line and sinker!

So did Luke lied in this verse?

Many [/b]have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us. [b]Luke 1:1
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by advocatejare(m): 11:47am On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Open your thread and mention me. I told you this thread is Bibilcal.

This is a religion section not biblical ogbeni, so let's talk about how your Allah the so called all-knowing kept shooting itself in the foot
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 11:54am On Aug 13, 2020
advocatejare:


This is a religion section not biblical ogbeni, so let's talk about how your Allah the so called all-knowing kept shooting itself in the foot

Alhamdullillah it's my thread and i may or may not reply you. I know you sabi our Qur'an pass your Bible.
That's why you seldom explain any Biblical verse but you'll want Muslims to always explain their Books for you!

Senior Advocate agbalagba!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 12:03pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


72 virgin or 12? You are not even sure! That shows how sensible some of you are. You hear more but you just don't get to confirm anything you just believe it hook, line and sinker!

So did Luke lied in this verse?

Many [/b]have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us. [b]Luke 1:1
things that have been fulfilled among us, did you know that most of the things about the Lord Jesus Christ have prophecy and fulfilled before he came to this world. Before his birth, prophet Isaiah have spoken about it many years before the Lord Jesus Christ came. His coming was just a fulfilment of what have already been spoken of. So Luke saying an account of things that already been fulfilled, doesn't mean he lied. He saying things from the point of view of what said already. But really did the quran said that he you kill for allah you will be given 72 Virgins.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by advocatejare(m): 12:06pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Alhamdullillah it's my thread and i may or may not reply you. I know you sabi our Qur'an pass your Bible.
That's why you seldom explain any Biblical verse
My mission on nairaland is not to explain the Bible to you but to burst your (you and other Muslims attacking Christianity) bubbles, to reveal that Islam is a false religion and that the Quran was written about 20 years after Muhammad had died and that Uthman and Zaid destroyed the original Quran and gave you their own version of the Quran, to reveal that Muhammad was tormented in the cave of Hira by a jinn and that he snorted like a camel anytime the jinn tormented him and wanted to commit suicide when the torment was too much.

I'm also here to show you that contrary to your claim that the Quran was perfectly written, it's full of errors and inaccuracies, repetitions and the only meaningful part of it are the parts plagiarized from the Bible.

but you'll want Muslims to always explain their Books for you!
I didn't ask you to explain anything to me, I only showed you the inconsistencies in the Quran, you're the one trying to do damage control for Allah.

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Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 12:17pm On Aug 13, 2020
delkuf:
things that have been fulfilled among us, did you know that most of the things about the Lord Jesus Christ have prophecy and fulfilled before he came to this world. Before his birth, prophet Isaiah have spoken about it many years before the Lord Jesus Christ came. His coming was just a fulfilment of what have already been spoken of. So Luke saying an account of things that already been fulfilled, doesn't mean he lied. He saying things from the point of view of what said already. But really did the quran said that he you kill for allah you will be given 72 Virgins.

What are you saying? Luke was not around during Jesus' time. He wrote hearsays!

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
Luke 1:1-4.


Pick out the Muslims that are killing in the following?

b]Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12[/b]
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.

17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

Now you have your virgins!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 12:20pm On Aug 13, 2020
advocatejare:
My mission on nairaland is not to explain the Bible to you but to burst your (you and other Muslims attacking Christianity) bubbles, to reveal that Islam is a false religion and that the Quran was written about 20 years after Muhammad had died and that Uthman and Zaid destroyed the original Quran and gave you their own version of the Quran, to reveal that Muhammad was tormented in the cave of Hira by a jinn and that he snorted like a camel anytime the jinn tormented him and wanted to commit suicide when the torment was too much.

I'm also here to show you that contrary to your claim that the Quran was perfectly written, it's full of errors and inaccuracies, repetitions and the only meaningful part of it are the parts plagiarized from the Bible.

I didn't ask you to explain anything to me, I only showed you the inconsistencies in the Quran, you're the one trying to do damage control for Allah.

Good! I promise not to answer much of your vituperations from now on! I will save this your lies. The Qur'an was written 20 years after Muhammad's death!

Biggest liar of the century ni yin sir!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 12:25pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


What are you saying? Luke was not around during Jesus' time. He wrote hearsays!

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
Luke 1:1-4.


Pick out the Muslims that are killing in the following?

b]Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12[/b]
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.

17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.


He wasn't around but it was documented. Do you think the Bible is like your quran that only mohammed was the one hearing and writing. Every thing in Bible was documented right from creation.


You are just repeating thing same thing over again. Have told you that all things happened before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ have died to deliver us from the law. And you have not answer my question. Did the quran really say if you kill for allah you have be given 72 Virgins in heaven. if you don't reply I won't answer you again
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by advocatejare(m): 12:27pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Good! I promise not to answer much of your vituperations from now on! I will save this your lies. The Qur'an was written 20 years after Muhammad's death!

Biggest liar of the century ni yin sir!

First, what I wrote was "the Quran was written about 20 years after Muhammad had died" and not what the liar you has twisted it to be.

Secondly, you've proven yourself to be very ignorant about your religion, instead of taking time to study the religion you practice, na Christian matter you carry for head.

Now let me teach you.

Muhammad died in 632 AD

Abu Bakr the first Caliph ruled for 2 years during which he started the first compilation and he completed it before he died and kept it.

The second caliph Umar ruled for 10 years from 634-644AD and he was in custody of manuscripts until he died after which Hafsa his daughter kept custody of it.

During the rule of Uthman (who ruled 12years after Muhammad had died) that is more than 12 years after the first Quran was compiled. Uthman ruled for 12years so in between those 12 years while he was ruling, people called his attention to the different ways people were reciting the Quran (which has been the norm even when Muhammad was alive and he didn't think of unifying the Quran into one dialect because Muhammad himself said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects)


But Uthman decided to unify the Quran into one standardized version when neither Allah nor Muhammad gave him such Instruction when he was alive.

So Uthman sent for the manuscript with Hafsa
"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510


So Uthman then ordered his scribes to write the new Quran in the dialect of the Quraysh and when they were done with their editing and standardization they buried the evidence of their alterations by burning the evidence.


"...'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt..." Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510

Hence the Quran sent to all provinces were compiled during the reign of Uthman who started ruling 12 years after Muhammad died and ruled for another 12 Years and the compilation and editing was done within his 12 Years of rule, which was 652 A.D.20years after Muhammad had died

[b]Also, as at that 652 A.D. there was no diacritical marks in Arabic language, it only came into existence in 8th century and the 9th century, long after Muhammad had died and long after Uthman had given out his own standardized version of the Quran

The arabic skeletal script is without the diacritical marks and vowelization:
Fathah = ah
Dhammah = oo
Kasrah = ii

None of the above dialect marks existed in the time of the prophet or Uthman in 652 AD and the present day Quran has them

That means nobody in the world has the original Quran with the original language without diacritical marks and vowelizations and that means the Quran compiled is not the same as the one Muhammad received

WHERE IS THE QURAN GIVEN TO MUHAMMAD?

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Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 12:30pm On Aug 13, 2020
delkuf:
He wasn't around but it was documented. Do you think the Bible is like your quran that only mohammed was the one hearing and writing. Every thing in Bible was documented right from creation.

Where was it documented? Stop saying what you don't know.


You are just repeating thing same thing over again. Have told you that all things happened before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ have died to deliver us from the law. And you have not answer my question. Did the quran really say if you kill for allah you have be given 72 Virgins in heaven. if you don't reply I won't answer you again[/quote]

Why did your jesus have to come after that many killings in the old testament approved by your Lord?
What become of the virgins in the previous verse?
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 12:35pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Where was it documented? Stop saying what you don't know.


You are just repeating thing same thing over again. Have told you that all things happened before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ have died to deliver us from the law. And you have not answer my question. Did the quran really say if you kill for allah you have be given 72 Virgins in heaven. if you don't reply I won't answer you again

Why did your jesus have to come after that many killings in the old testament approved by your Lord?
What become of the virgins in the previous verse?
Answer my question before I answer you. Is it written in your quran that is you kill for allah you will be given 72 Virgins in heaven.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 1:38pm On Aug 13, 2020
delkuf:
Answer my question before I answer you. Is it written in your quran that is you kill for allah you will be given 72 Virgins in heaven.

No it is not!

Now answer my last questions!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 1:49pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


No it is not!

Now answer my last questions!
Really. then why are Boko Haram and other terrorist group killing I the name of allah
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Nobody: 2:59pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


How do we know what's inspiration and what is dictation in the Bible? A large portion of the NT are allegedely letters of Paul.

As for the Qur'an you can open a thread and mention me. This is strictly biblical.

Letters of St Paul so All Scriptures were given by inspiration, and is profitable...that the man of God may be perfect...have you obtained that perfection that you now question why inspiration and not dictation?
The difference between islam and christianity is one tells you you can be perfect if you strictly follow certain rules, rules themselves which are not perfect, like how do you pray facing mecca if you are an astronaut on a space shuttle to the moon? Why is a man allowed to beat his wife? What if she overpowers him what then happens next? Why can a muslim man marry a non-muslim woman, but a non-muslim man is not permitted to marry a muslim woman? Why should a man be allowed to marry a 13 year old girl who is at high risk of developing complications from delivery?
On the other hand christianity says you cant be perfect by praying 5 times a day or paging zakkat or whatever laws you so religiously follow, God Almighty alone is perfect and He alone can give you holiness. All you ever need to do, which is the essence of The Bible, is learn to live in love and peace with all and love God your maker above everything else.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Csonice1: 4:22pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Your prayer no they work at all. I'm not an antichrist as that one will come later and I can't represent him. I am antichristian. My God no get child.

Try and organize am make we see!

I'm done with you. You have been hearing about the power of God: it's now time to see that power in action. I have no need to answer you again. You will begin to fear Him and the power of His Christ.
I'm afraid you are in for a serious business.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:24pm On Aug 13, 2020
AntiChristian:


Jesus didn't die at all. And what he's coming to do is different in Islam and Christianity.

Ohhh I see, he disappeared to heaven bah
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 9:17am On Aug 14, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:


Ohhh I see, he disappeared to heaven bah

Yeah just like Elijah but without a Chariot of flame!
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 9:18am On Aug 14, 2020
Csonice1:


I'm done with you. You have been hearing about the power of God: it's now time to see that power in action. I have no need to answer you again. You will begin to fear Him and the power of His Christ.
I'm afraid you are in for a serious business.

Empty threat! grin
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 9:30am On Aug 14, 2020
veeshock:

Letters of St Paul so All Scriptures were given by inspiration, and is profitable...that the man of God may be perfect...have you obtained that perfection that you now question why inspiration and not dictation?
The difference between islam and christianity is one tells you you can be perfect if you strictly follow certain rules, rules themselves which are not perfect, like how do you pray facing mecca if you are an astronaut on a space shuttle to the moon? Why is a man allowed to beat his wife? What if she overpowers him what then happens next? Why can a muslim man marry a non-muslim woman, but a non-muslim man is not permitted to marry a muslim woman? Why should a man be allowed to marry a 13 year old girl who is at high risk of developing complications from delivery?
On the other hand christianity says you cant be perfect by praying 5 times a day or paging zakkat or whatever laws you so religiously follow, God Almighty alone is perfect and He alone can give you holiness. All you ever need to do, which is the essence of The Bible, is learn to live in love and peace with all and love God your maker above everything else.

I don't know why you have been seeking your relevance with Islam. But your God was accepting most of these things before He changed his mind in the new testament. Many people even Jesus put their face to the ground in worship! Can you briefly tell me about the tabernacle in the OT? Of what relevance was it? What rituals/prayers, etc was done in respect of it? So many things happen in the OT till your Lord changed in the NT.

An astronaut will be able to locate the Qiblah either with a compass or at worst face anywhere if it is no possible to locate it. Some Muslims pray while standing, some sitting and some lying down according to one's ability. Alhamdulillah, Islamic rules are Islamic rules and it changes for no one.

Alhamdulillah for Islam.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 9:56am On Aug 14, 2020
delkuf:
Really. then why are Boko Haram and other terrorist group killing I the name of allah

Because your Lord commanded Moses to kill people and leave virgins for themselves.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 10:21am On Aug 14, 2020
AntiChristian:


Because your Lord commanded Moses to kill people and leave virgins for themselves.
Really, to leave Virgins for themselves. Where is it in Bible
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 1:47pm On Aug 14, 2020
delkuf:
Really, to leave Virgins for themselves. Where is it in Bible

So you have not read that verse and others?

Numbers Chapter 31:17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive for themselves.

grin Now over to you and please don't "off you mic"!

Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by delkuf(m): 1:56pm On Aug 14, 2020
AntiChristian:


So you have not read that verse and others?

Numbers Chapter 31:17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive for themselves.

grin Now over to you and please don't "off you mic"!

Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.

Show me a new testament chapter with this type of message

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