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Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by UyaiIncomparabl(f): 8:53am On Aug 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89: What if you miss the Rapture? What would you do? |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by UyaiIncomparabl(f): 8:57am On Aug 16, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020: Do you think you will make heaven? |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:03am On Aug 16, 2020 |
UyaiIncomparabl:Even if I want to go to hell, God would not agree just as He did for Moses who asked Him to remove his name from His book. We've paid the price. Moreover the recent dream I had about rapture also confirms that. So it a surebet, you'd need to see my mansion there. it's very great. How bout you? |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Goalnaldo(m): 10:13am On Aug 16, 2020 |
Please you guys predicting when this will happen should desist from the act. See what the scripture clearly said. Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 NIV |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by adoyi8: 10:23am On Aug 16, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: So what it takes to become an anti christ is becoming a billionaire by solving human needs. God please make me an anti christ. |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 10:45am On Aug 16, 2020 |
adoyi8:Nope, but becoming a billionaire is part of the pay-offs for being one of the many antichrists out there. There aren't necessarily and really solving human needs, but are solving the Antichrist and/or PTB need(s) |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by adoyi8: 11:01am On Aug 16, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I really will like Christians to choose a side concerning wealth. When a christian is rich they believe that God is blessing him but when a non christian is rich then it is the devil that gave him wealth. You can support either of these with the bible when you put the contradicting views of Jesus and David concerning wealth side by side. David believed that he was blessed with wealth by God hence Psalm 23. Jesus insinuated that the devil gives wealth on account of the Second temptation of Jesus christ and the fact that he told the rich man to let go of his wealth before he can follow him. The christians now pick any part they want. when they are rich, they point to psalm 23 but when non christians are rich, they point to the second temptation of Christ. Now I want Christians to pick a side concerning wealth. Who gives wealth? is it the devil or God? 1 Like |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 12:36pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
adoyi8:The power to get wealth comes from and/or is permitted by God. It is God who gives the power to get wealth. Has you ever since a sick person get wealth, huh? Have you ever seen a person with brain power get wealth, hmm? Yahsua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, knew that the young rich couldn't follow Him, when he is fixated on his riches, so He asked him to first dispose it al then follow Him. The young rich man riches had a strong hold on him, so he declined the the suggestion. It is impossible to be a believer, if mammon is your god. The disciples of Yahsua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, the likes of Apostle Peter were all, to a good degree, rich individuals. Apostle Paul, had to beg for donations to be given for other churches. Believers honor God with their acquired wealth 1 Like |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by adoyi8: 1:06pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Thank you for clarifying that wealth comes from God even though Yashua Ha mashsiach aka Jesus Christ said that it will be easier for the head of a camel to pass through a needle than for a rich man to see the kingdom of God. You said Jeff Bezos, Mark zuckerberg, Bill gates Elon Musk etc are the anti christs. Now why would God give wealth to anti christs when some believers are suffering in poverty? |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kobojunkie: 2:28pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kei144:Yes, I get the law of 2 or 3 witnesses. I believe God does not have that apply should someone identify a false prophet though. Deuteronomy 13 vs 1-6. So What I am asking you is what should happen to you and your witnesses should this prophecy of yours fail? Stop joking with God! |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by donnie(m): 2:35pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
When it comes to bible prophesy especially of end time events, it always good to avoid the temptation of setting dates. We can know the season, but the date? Hmm 2 Likes |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by ArisingStorm: 2:37pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
donnie:Na scam 1 Like |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 2:57pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
adoyi8:I typed that the power to get wealth comes from and/or is permitted by God. It is God who gives the power to get wealth, then I went to ask you, that have you ever since a sick person get wealth, huh? Have you ever seen a person with impaired brain power get wealth, hmm? Now who makes a sick person, well, healthy, strong and alive enough to get wealth? Who gives the brain power exercised and used in getting wealth, hmm? adoyi8:"5Then the devil led Him up to a high place and showed Him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6“I will give You authority over all these kingdoms and all their glory,” he said. “For it has been relinquished to me, and I can give it to anyone I wish. (i.e. because they are mine to give to anyone I please) 7So if You worship me, it will all be Yours.””" - Luke 4:5-7 The devil within the devil's sphere of influence has been permitted to give wealth, voluntarily given up by A&E to keep, to tool busy working away in the devil's workshop. You'll find out that pretty much most, if not each one of all of those few of the elite billionaires listed antichrists are atheists or agnostic atheists. Rules are no respecter of person. The law of gravity doesn't discriminate between a believer or a non believer, atheist, heathen, rich, poor et cetera. Now, out of the following antichrists Bill Gates, Steve Jobs RIP, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Ren Zhengfei, who among them still has the power to create wealth and enjoy it? Without God permitting and notwithstanding Luke 4:5-7 above, the devil has no power, to give wealth. It would have been double tragedy, if Yahsua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, had given in to the temptation of the devil. Yes, Yahsua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, correctly put, said that: "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (i.e. Matthew 19:24, Luke 18:25 and Mark 10:25) because priorities of an ungodly rich man will clash with the priorities of God. This and all, is what does make it not easy for many a rich men to enter the kingdom of God. Let me turn your question on its head with this question. Why would God shine the sun and drop rain on both good and bad people? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by obonujoker(m): 4:03pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Rapture is in the Bible bro.... The Lord Jesus Christ himself spoke about it.... What's not in the Bible is Rapture before the tribulation of the saints... |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by obonujoker(m): 4:07pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
adoyi8: Any man who gets rich without the Lord Jesus, is a thief and a robber... And a robber cannot inherit the kingdom of God |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kei144(m): 4:22pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: I don't know how you came by the October date you have been saying that I gave as the date the rapture will happen. I know that for the past few years, I've been saying that rapture will happen in November. In 2014, my mother in-law saw in a dream where rapture took place in November, but she wasn't shown the year. Kei144:https://www.nairaland.com/5519485/biblical-end-time-begins-towards#83902642 |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by adoyi8: 4:54pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
obonujoker:If Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Mark that got rich by providing services to humans are thieves what about the pastors that manipulate their church members into giving them 10 percent of their salaries every month? |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MickzyDonald: 5:03pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Dannyboi976:Must u know him, ah u are dannyboy sef,i didnt see ur name in heaven bro,d angel talk say u steal una mama meat yesterday |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by obonujoker(m): 5:06pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
adoyi8: If a pastor is not doing it to glorify God, he shall meet his own reward |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by donnie(m): 7:15pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
ArisingStorm: It is well 1 Like |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Dannyboi976(m): 7:19pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
MickzyDonald:*sigh* |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MickzyDonald: 8:03pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Dannyboi976:So nah true |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kobojunkie: 8:10pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
obonujoker:That is a lie told you by your MOGs and not of God. What they refuse to inform you is that God's mercy and compassion is on both the wicked and the righteous. He loves the wicked and the righteous alike -He is perfect. 1 Like |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Nephilim: 8:40pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kei144:hahaha there's always rapture in September of every year!! |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by donnie(m): 9:03pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: That is even with the wild assumption that those in church are righteous. |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kobojunkie: 9:05pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
donnie:Righteous and the world church cannot mix... They are like water and oil. How many of those in the churches know what righteousness refers to? How many of them understand what the grace of God is truly about, and how faith is not mental gymnastics?/ |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kei144(m): 10:27pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: I love this your reply because it is just the truth. It also shows your level in knowledge of the truth. The churches haven't actually understood the meanings of righteousness and grace, as well as the connection between the two. That is why Jesus said this: Mt. 5:27-28 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. A man may succeed in never physically committing adultery by exercise of will power and will be considered righteous by the society (including the church), but only the grace of God will enable him to never commit adultery in the heart. Even never committing physical adultery through the exercise of will power is possible only because the right conditions for easy and tempting adultery don't usually exist. So, what is grace? Grace is not claiming in your head that when God looks at you He doesn't see your sins but the righteousness of Jesus, because you have hidden your life in Christ. That is pure presumption that leads to hell fire. This is the real meaning of grace: Mt, 19:26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Zec. 4:6-7 6 So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty. 7 “What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” The problem though is, how do you practically get the Spirit of God involved in your life? The Spirit of God does not work in a person that is not righteous, which is why He is called the Holy Spirit. So, how does a person who is not yet righteous get the Holy Spirit to help him to become righteous? Bring in the blood of Jesus! He. 10:19-22 19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. “In the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I sprinkle all my inward and outward parts with the blood of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit of God. I wash away from my heart all unrighteousness, every misdeed of the flesh (Ro. 8:13), every act of the sinful nature (Ga. 5:21) by the blood of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit.” It works like charm. |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kobojunkie: 10:43pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kei144:You still did not provide a definition for the Grace of God and you did not provide explanation for what constitutes righteousness either. By the way, since Jesus Christ never said anything about praying by His blood, why do you do that? |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kei144(m): 11:16pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Grace of God is living by the power of the Holy Spirit. Most Christians think that grace is opposite to work, but that is not true. It is just like asking a human being to lift a 10-ton weight. It is impossible for a human being to do that with bare hands. But with the aid of a hydraulic or pneumatic lifting machine, a human being can lift a 10-ton weight. That is the equivalence of grace. Most people will say that it wasn't the man that lifted it, but the machine. Give the lifting machine to whoever that says that and let us see how the machine will lift the 10-ton weight. The machine needs a human operator or driver in order to do the job. In engineering, it is called a man-machine system; neither man nor machine can do the work alone, but the synergy between man and machine does a lot. Similarly, in spiritual matters" As for praying by the blood, He. 10:19-22 was written to hebrews, who understand Nu. 19:9. Jn. 15:5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. Note in Jn. 15:5 that it is the Christian that will do, but through the power of Christ in him. Christ in me is the grace of God. But Christ in me does no work by Himself; it is only when I involve Him that He manifests His power through me and everybody will see me doing the work. Ge. 1:2-3 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Christ ((the Spirit) was present all through the situation in Ge. 1:2 and did nothing until God brought Him in through the word. In the same way, it is through word of faith that a Christian involves Christ in him is his work. As for meaning of righteousness: 1[i] Jn. 3:7-8 7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.[/i] Righteousness is doing what is right, both visibly and in the heart, It is actually doing what is right by God's judgment and not assuming that Jesus is your righteousness. As for praying by the blood of Jesus, He. 10:19-22 was written to Hebrews, who understand Nu. 10:9. |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kei144(m): 11:00am On Aug 17, 2020 |
Kei144: Nu. 19:1-9 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: 2 “This is a requirement of the law that the Lord has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke. 3 Give it to Eleazar the priest; it is to be taken outside the camp and slaughtered in his presence. 4 Then Eleazar the priest is to take some of its blood on his finger and sprinkle it seven times toward the front of the tent of meeting. 5 While he watches, the heifer is to be burned—its hide, flesh, blood and intestines. 6 The priest is to take some cedar wood, hyssop and scarlet wool and throw them onto the burning heifer. 7 After that, the priest must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water. He may then come into the camp, but he will be ceremonially unclean till evening. 8 The man who burns it must also wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he too will be unclean till evening. 9 “A man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and put them in a ceremonially clean place outside the camp. They are to be kept by the Israelite community for use in the water of cleansing; it is for purification from sin. Numbers 19 begins with, "This is a requirement of the law that the Lord has commanded." Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill them. Followers of Jesus are meant to also fulfill the Law. However, there is a paradigm shift; everything in the Old Testament is just a physical pattern of spiritual realities in the New Testament. Hence, in the Old Testament, even though the practice described in Nu. 19:9, which is washing the body with ashes of burnt red heifer dissolved in water, actually served the purpose of disinfecting the bodies of the people who gather in the temple ground from different places, thereby preventing the possibility of epidemic breaking out, it was a type of purification from sin. We then see that purification from sins is carried out by means of the relics of a previous sacrifice dissolved in water, being used to wash away the sins. In the New Testament, there is only one sacrifice; Jesus' sacrifice of atonement for our sins. The relics of Jesus' sacrifice is his blood. Even though the blood of Jesus is not physically available to us, we can access the blood of Jesus by faith, through the Spirit. So, the blood of Jesus replaces ashes of burnt red heifer. Water in which the ashes of the burnt red heifer is dissolved is replaced by word of faith. We therefore purify our hearts from sins with the blood of Jesus by word of faith through the Holy Spirit. Ep. 5:26 To make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word. Ja. 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. |
Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by Kobojunkiee: 6:04pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
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