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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by jaxxy(m): 10:51pm On Aug 21, 2020
U don’t say
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by nnamdi640: 10:53pm On Aug 21, 2020
Zenithpeak:


When a blind is showing another blind man a ditch..... We all know it will definitely end in premium tears.

Scam is sponsoring scam as if we are all as foolish as they are.
Hope you know that you are enjoying the products of those you called fools?Let Africans carry out their own research let see.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by ParpahSeventy: 10:54pm On Aug 21, 2020
Sanchez01:

It is not a dvck measuring contest. And I took you on from the angle of referring to those who don't buy the 250 million charade as Illiterates.

There is:

1. Samarium–neodymium dating method.
2. Potassium–argon dating method.
3. Rubidium–strontium dating method.
4. Uranium–thorium dating method.
5. And there is the lead (something...)

The Uranium–thorium dating method is more accurate for dating fossils of over 500,000 as against the carbon dating method you sold and branded people Illiterates over. Although the latter is considered more accurate generally, the Uranium-thorium is still much more accurate.

I believe approximation/estimation pattern is at play here. And if it is, it still makes a mockery of science in the end as to the true age of the earth. You can't tell me a fossil of 250 million years ago was recently discovered when science only discovered that sperm cells don't in fact swim but wriggle.

That science is very notorious for gross exaggeration is an open secret. Science interests me a whole lot and it has led me on a heuristic method of learning for about a decade but don't come and sell unleavened bread in the name of enlightenment.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by samsard(m): 10:57pm On Aug 21, 2020
Sanchez01:

It is not a dvck measuring contest. And I took you on from the angle of referring to those who don't buy the 250 million charade as Illiterates.

There is:

1. Samarium–neodymium dating method.
2. Potassium–argon dating method.
3. Rubidium–strontium dating method.
4. Uranium–thorium dating method.
5. And there is the lead (something...)

The Uranium–thorium dating method is more accurate for dating fossils of over 500,000 as against the carbon dating method you sold and branded people Illiterates over. Although the latter is considered more accurate generally, the Uranium-thorium is still much more accurate.

I believe approximation/estimation pattern is at play here. And if it is, it still makes a mockery of science in the end as to the true age of the earth. You can't tell me a fossil of 250 million years ago was recently discovered when science only discovered that sperm cells don't in fact swim but wriggle.

That science is very notorious for gross exaggeration is an open secret. Science interests me a whole lot and it has led me on a heuristic method of learning for about a decade but don't come and sell unleavened bread in the name of enlightenment.
Basically your point is that since some reseachers said that sperm cells don't swim therefore scientific results aren't reliable? angry That's just ridiculous. There's always a margin of error allowed in scientific research
The sperm cell not swimming stuff you're mentioning is tricky because you're talking of microscopic organisms. If you read the report well you'll understand what the researchers are saying is not so profound.
I still insist it's illiteracy that makes people think the Earth is 6000 years old.
Every self-respecting science enthusiast knows carbon dating isn't perfect, but it's what we've got and reseachers know where to draw the line.
If the title of the thread was to be more accurate it'll read as estimated 250 million year-old fossil or something, it's not a definite figure

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 10:58pm On Aug 21, 2020
Sanchez01:

The emboldened are contradictory. New age scientists are not too different from the old. The difference is the old had limited knowledge and exhibited some societal dogmas. The new age is cursed with exaggeration, data manipulation (for profit), and lies to suit narratives.

That they said they found a creature's fossil of 250 million years ago and put up pictures does not validate the claim in any way.
But how do you know they are lies if you have never carried out a research yourself. undecidedundecided Nigerians!

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Judybash93(m): 10:58pm On Aug 21, 2020
ArisingStorm:
Lies!!!
Scam!!!

Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Jupiter etc : they are all names of gods o grin and yet NASA is still giving us top quality entertainment scam, a well financially sponsored scam. And Hollywood and media too are perfectly brainwashing the masses. They quickly brainwash us with western education at a tender age so our mind remains sealed and closed to real truth. They will go to any length to make us not believe the existence of The Creator of all things.

Abeg, people that don't like scam, research this, knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave :
The Hidden origin of science
The Satanist Scientist
The Foundations of the earth is firm and immovable
The Firmament

See another scam below. (Image) grin

If you're going to refute anything, at least you should provide an alternative truth

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by ovieigho(m): 10:58pm On Aug 21, 2020
Sososo:
240 million for this Earth abi na another planet

Lolz

God created Adam on the sixth day

He already created other animals before Adam
And a day in the presence of God is like 1billion years grin grin

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Judybash93(m): 10:59pm On Aug 21, 2020
SegFault:

But how do you know they are lies if you have never carried out a research yourself. undecidedundecided Nigerians!

Exactly
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by guy222: 10:59pm On Aug 21, 2020
GeneralPula:

Who created the earth?
nnamdi kanu the son of mohammed buhari.
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 11:00pm On Aug 21, 2020
ParpahSeventy:

Funny enough your mind is not an exception, the religious minds believe what they are told with their "evidence", you also believe what you are told with your own "evidence".
It's same African minds, nothing different, nothing new, those of you talking about scientific processes etc.
Apart from what you are told and what was presented to you with it's principles, do you know anything of your own?
Stop claiming all these audio "civilisation".
Mind all religions practiced in Nigeria (except traditional) comes from the Arabs.

My friend there is fact and there is opinion/faith/belief. Fact is not subjective. The Bible says the world is flat, science has proved otherwise. This is not about what one is told, fact is demonstrable. Faith by definition is asking you to believe what hasnt been proven. What you accept by faith may or may not be true what is fact is scientifically proven, demonstrable and evidenced or else it is not fact.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 11:00pm On Aug 21, 2020
Judybash93:


Exactly
I just don't understand again. Someone who has never done a research in his life comes out in the open and calls another researcher a liar. Nawa o.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Sanchez01: 11:01pm On Aug 21, 2020
SegFault:

But how do you know they are lies if you have never carried out a research yourself. undecidedundecided Nigerians!
Let's start from here... How old is the earth?
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by kalu61(m): 11:02pm On Aug 21, 2020
ossaisly:
the only thing i want to learn here is how is a million year known or determined?
Study about Cabon dating.
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 11:03pm On Aug 21, 2020
ParpahSeventy:

Funny enough your mind is not an exception, the religious minds believe what they are told with their "evidence", you also believe what you are told with your own "evidence".
It's same African minds, nothing different, nothing new, those of you talking about scientific processes etc.
Apart from what you are told and what was presented to you with it's principles, do you know anything of your own?
Stop claiming all these audio "civilisation".
Mind all religions practiced in Nigeria (except traditional) comes from the Arabs.
The difference is clear for shit's sakes. Religious people have what is called faith and let me define it according to the Catholics "Faith is a supernatural gift from God to believe beyond reasonable doubt that God exists...." now look at the bolded that should simply tell you the difference, science demands that you use your rational senses to find proof and use reason while religion doesn't.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 11:04pm On Aug 21, 2020
Sanchez01:

Let's start from here... How old is the earth?
I don't know. Simple.
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Sanchez01: 11:04pm On Aug 21, 2020
samsard:
Basically your point is that since some reseachers said that sperm cells don't swim therefore scientific results aren't reliable? angry That's just ridiculous. There's always a margin of error allowed in scientific research
The sperm cell not swimming stuff you're mentioning is tricky because you're talking of microscopic organisms. If you read the report well you'll understand what the researchers are saying is not so profound.
I still insist it's illiteracy that makes people think the Earth is 6000 years old.
Every self-respecting science enthusiast knows carbon dating isn't perfect, but it's what we've got and reseachers know where to draw the line.
If the title of the thread was to be more accurate it'll read as estimated 250 million year-old fossil or something, it's not a definite figure
Young man, stop shifting the goal post. How old is the earth? Let's start from there. You're free to cull contents at this point.

You claimed carbon dating was more accurate than others but you are shifting the post after I wasted my time to explain why it is not the most accurate?
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Sanchez01: 11:04pm On Aug 21, 2020
samsard:
Basically your point is that since some reseachers said that sperm cells don't swim therefore scientific results aren't reliable? angry That's just ridiculous. There's always a margin of error allowed in scientific research
The sperm cell not swimming stuff you're mentioning is tricky because you're talking of microscopic organisms. If you read the report well you'll understand what the researchers are saying is not so profound.
I still insist it's illiteracy that makes people think the Earth is 6000 years old.
Every self-respecting science enthusiast knows carbon dating isn't perfect, but it's what we've got and reseachers know where to draw the line.
If the title of the thread was to be more accurate it'll read as estimated 250 million year-old fossil or something, it's not a definite figure
Young man, stop shifting the goal post. How old is the earth? Let's start from there. You're free to cull contents at this point.

You claimed carbon dating was more accurate than others but you are shifting the post after I wasted my time to explain why it is not the most accurate? Sheesh!

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by kalu61(m): 11:07pm On Aug 21, 2020
realstars:
How Am I Sure Of This, The W6rld Is Not Upto 10 Million Years Yet.
Where did you get your figure.
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Sanchez01: 11:08pm On Aug 21, 2020
SegFault:

I don't know. Simple.
Good. It would have been fair to rely on your science but you didn't, meaning you don't even trust their claims.

It is hilarious you had to put up an appeal to accomplishment fallacy even when you are ignorant and have no clue of what is real and what isn't. Funny.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by PremierGuy(m): 11:10pm On Aug 21, 2020
Just like the Chinese, the dead animal was busy eating just anything
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by fredoooooo: 11:10pm On Aug 21, 2020
China still want to eat this or what ? grin
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Franzinni: 11:10pm On Aug 21, 2020
Legalcriminal:
Wontunde.
250million haaa please does anyone have the idea how this year figure is calculated.
look it up its called

Carbon dating or something
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 11:11pm On Aug 21, 2020
Sanchez01:

Good. It would have been fair to rely on your science but you didn't, meaning you don't even trust their claims.

It is hilarious you had to put up an appeal to accomplishment fallacy even when you are ignorant and have no clue of what is real and what isn't. Funny.
Such foolishness exhibited by you too. The earth's age has been a source of argument between those who believe that the big Bang Theory happened and the people who believe the universe is has been the way it is. They are both approximates and you can't really stand and say one is correct. You are calling someone ignorant you of all people who rubbished a research yet does not have a single dime to even conduct one. Shame on you. As someone who believes in reason, I believe that there are some things that we will never really understand or know. For example, understanding what nothingness means or understanding time. And one more thing remember what science means, The systematic study of the things around you it is a study not a belief.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by ParpahSeventy: 11:11pm On Aug 21, 2020
isthatso:


My friend there is fact and there is opinion/faith/belief. Fact is not subjective. The Bible says the world is flat, science has proved otherwise. This is not about what one is told, fact is demonstrable. Faith by definition is asking you to believe what hasnt been proven.
Question I have for you is this, apart from what you read on Google, watched on TV, and probably read in books do you have any other facts to prove these millions of years?
Am sure your biggest answer is NO.
You read, they read, you were told, they were told, you are all acting on faith, so labelling them illiterates because they don't share your faith is what am trying to point out to you, you went ahead to say African minds, all African minds flow with same wave, that is why even with your so called "intelligence" you still displaying the "African mind".
Those of you ranting about radio carbon dating, I can bet my life savings that you can't do Jack out of it.

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Djyucee1(m): 11:12pm On Aug 21, 2020
Make these people go sleep abeg.
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by epigramdigital: 11:15pm On Aug 21, 2020
Macsjebs:
Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8647513/A-15-foot-ichthyosaur-lived-240-million-years-ago-died-eating-12-foot-long-reptile.html

Well done oh...... 15ft animal swallow 12ft animal. So the size of the stomach na how many ft?

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Nobody: 11:16pm On Aug 21, 2020
ParpahSeventy:

Question I have for you is this, apart from what you read on Google, watched on TV, and probably read in books do you have any other facts to prove these millions of years?
Am sure your biggest answer is NO.
You read, they read, you were told, they were told, you are all acting on faith, so labelling them illiterates because they don't share your faith is what am trying to point out to you, you went ahead to say African minds, all African minds flow with same wave, that is why even with your so called "intelligence" you still displaying the "African mind".
Those of you ranting about radio carbon dating, I can bet my life savings that you can't do Jack out of it.

My friend abeg carry on with your ignorance. I really dont have time for lost causes and closed minds. Do you have to rely on what you are "told" for your brain to kick in. If you really have a functioning brain you should ask questions, you should have an inquisitive mind. The reason why Africans dont invent or discover anything is because we dont question what weve been told, we dont ask questions, we are not inquisitive, we just accept. Children ask questions but Africans seem to be the ones who by the time they finish school stop asking questions and accept what they are taught in schools and in church/mosques without asking themselves if it makes any sense or logical.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, look at your continent, does it look like a continent of people who engage their brains? It is even Foreigners that come and discover things in your own continent.........Nonsense!!!
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by Sanchez01: 11:19pm On Aug 21, 2020
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SegFault:

Such foolishness exhibited by you too. The earth's age has been a source of argument between those who believe that the big Bang Theory happened and the people who believe the universe is has been the way it is. You are calling someone ignorant you of all people who rubbished a research yet does not have a single dime to even conduct one. Shame on you. As someone who believes in reason, I believe that there are some things that we will never really understand or know. For example, understanding what nothingness means or understanding time.
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No one asked you this and stop running in circle. Whatever theory is propounded is not the problem but WHAT YOU BELIEVE. Again, stop appealing to accomplishment, it is distasteful. Just because I am not a movie director does not mean I can't critic movies. The same applies to other fields, particularly when it involves disturbing and gross exaggeration as with 250 million years.

Tell you what appeal to accomplishment does: it makes whoever exhibit shallow and tend to make them come off as market women. More importantly, it is an undertone of a dogmatic mindset. I am given and open to learning but believing others can't challenge what is because I haven't done it is myopic, lacking in refined taste and unintelligent.

No vex, if you feel the barrage is hitting hard. Shallow discourses put me off. I was getting into this before now but not anymore. Your rebuttal is not necessary cheesy

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by RuddyFusion(m): 11:19pm On Aug 21, 2020
Where is righteousness89 when you need him?

I can see alot of experts above quoting potassium and magnesium. ageing methods ..but I can only accept what righteousness89 says on this .....

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Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by kalu61(m): 11:21pm On Aug 21, 2020
Humanoid01:

You don't have to be an expert to give a simplified explanation.

If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough -- Albert Einstein.
It is called radiocarbon dating. Plants are made of carbon (CHO). When animal eats plants, these carbon are transferred to humans. Remember energy can neither be greater nor destroyed but..... There are two types of carbon C12 and C 14. The former is stable while the later is unstable. I.e the later losses half of it's life after a specific period of time(half life of an element) for C14; it's about 5700 plus years. That means after 5700 plus years, C14 losses half of it's life. For example 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 etc. This half life is now used to compare with the stable C12 to get a ration. That ratio is the estimate.

Those looking for accuracy shuold no, we have 95% percent significance in science. Hope you picked one or two from this.
Re: 240-Million-Year-Old Sea Monster Unearthed In China, Has Giant Lizard In Belly by ParpahSeventy: 11:22pm On Aug 21, 2020
SegFault:

The difference is clear for shit's sakes. Religious people have what is called faith and let me define it according to the Catholics "Faith is a supernatural gift from God to believe beyond reasonable doubt that God exists...." now look at the bolded that should simply tell you the difference, science demands that you use your rational senses to find proof and use reason while religion doesn't.
I am not refuting science, what am trying to say is quite simple, Faith, you believe that God exists, billions of people believes that God exists, if you don't believe that exists it's left for you to find because a scientist should carry out research on a subject matter before concluding.
Back to my point, with all your scientific evidence, how many of them have you proven to be true?
Can you prove to categorically with your own eyes and everyday happenings that the sun is the center of the universe?
All what you "know" you know by faith, if those researchers comes out and change the trend tomorrow, you follow suit, simply because you know by Faith.

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