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Re: LMS deleted by SteelMcqueen: 11:52am On Aug 24, 2020
Dpsychologist:
LOOKS , MONEY AND STATUS

According to PUA one can become attractive to women after reasing their techniques and practicing them ignoring the main attractive qualities in a man which is looks, money and status. The more you have LMS the more women are attracted to you. See Wizkid, Justin Bieber etc why do you think women are dying for them. On social Media, a lady will post on Instagram or twitter that she wants a one night stand with a a superstar. See The way women have been clamouring over 2baba, he has succeeded in fathering many children.

Let me use this time to tell you the LOOPHOLE in PUA Advice.

A pickup artist or PUA is a business man who claims to help people get positive IOIs through social manipulation ("game "wink.The idea that one can dramatically change ones own personal life while mostly ignoring fundamental life issues (like ugliness, or poverty) is also an underlying principle of cognitive behavioral therapy, the most widely practiced professional therapy mode in which has failed to slow down the increase in suicides.
A PUA would deceive an Asian man into believing that their low sexual market value lies in being too submissive, rather than being short and Asian.

HISTORY
Ancient times
The first known pick up artist was Ovid, a Roman author born in 43 BC. Ovid's work "ars amandi" (art of love) concerns the seduction of a woman: he explains seduction is a scientific discipline, which can be taught by a "love professor", afterwards he describes accurate strategies to seduct women, like deceiving them.
Another best seller of pick-up art is the Kama Sutra (600 A.D.). This indian book generally concerns love beetween humans, but the main topic is the coutship of a woman and the methods to get a wife or a lover.

Modern Times
Giacomo Casanova is the most famous PUA of 18th Century, in fact he wrote the book "History of My Life" in which he explained the strategy he uses to seduce women: he claimed he seduced girls with "conversation skills" that he used to arouse emotions into women who consequently developed sexual desire for him, however the truth is Casanova was a liar who didn't actually use "conversation skills" to attract women but his LMS , infact he was extremely tall (20cm above average), very attractive and even very rich.

20th CENTURY
The modern PUA movement started in the 1970s with the rise of hook up culture after the sexual revolution in modern western countries. Now it is more common for men to play the field and seek out casual sexual encounters before marriage. Due to the existence of female hypergamy and Bateman's Principle , many men that are not physically blessed are having poor prospects of casual sex encounters and thus a market niche was formed catering to their desire to improve their prospects. From the 1960's to the 1980's there were a small amount of, become a playboy, type pick up artist guides.

1990s
Jeffries
One of the first mainstream PUAs was Ross Jeffries who in the 1990s advocated N.L.P (neuro-linguistic programming) to attract women, which is the technique of influencing female attraction by use of subliminal phrases in conversations.

2000s

Angelo

The modern incarnation of PUA was engineered by an internet marketer by the name of Eben Pagan ( David de Angelo ) a member of an internet marketing group known as The Syndicate and author of the PUA manual Double your Dating, which claims the bold faced lie that looks don't matter at all to women (actually the complete opposite) and any A.F.C (Average Frustrated Chump) who applies PUA techniques will be able to become a slayer. (Which is also a lie Game, alone cannot make up for bad looks)


Strauss
PUA remained a niche community until the release of the book The Game by journalist Neil Strauss, a semi autobiographical work describing, induction into a PUA circle led by the most famous PUA, The street magician and reality TV star Mystery.
The success of The Game resulted in a PUA craze in the mid nineties that lasted until the early 2010s.


Mystery
Mystery had combined the teachings of get-rich quick marketer David De Angelo with evolutionary psychology to create a unique style of PUA creatively dubbed The Mystery Method.


Steele
R. Don Steele is a baby boomer PUA dating coach who developed three techniques to supposedly improve client success with women. The three steps basically boil down to a, firm handshake, good posture, and sexual intent as the principles to getting women. The incel mass shooter, George Sodini , attended several of his seminars.

2010s

Manosphere
It is argued that PUA communities combined with the internet are ultimately responsible for the rise of the Manosphere in general.

Roosh V
RooshV is a blogger and former sex tourist who was a highly influential figure in the manosphere and game community. After originally coming to prominence in the 2000s as a PUA blogger, the man wrote various books[2] which detailed apparent sexual conquests in foreign countries and, advised methods of picking up women. Like many manosphere writers, the writing became increasingly political and closer to alt-right viewpoints in the run-up to the 2016 US presidential elections. After becoming a born-again Oriental Orthodox Christian, Roosh denounced previous writings and forbade discussion of casual sex on a private forum.

Roissy
Roissy was the sobriquet used by the author of the (now defunct) blog Chateau Heartiste, which was a blog that promoted pick-up artistry (under the name of game ), anti-feminist writings, and also increasingly white nationalism, especially during the run-up to the 2016 presidential election.

Puahate dot com
The first website where what we now know as the Blackpill was widely espoused was the forum
puahate.com , whose original purpose was to expose the lies and scams of the PUA industry, eventually morphing into a manosphere forum where a major theme emerged of women being primarily attracted to a man's LMS (looks, money, status) in other words objective value to women in opposition to more vague concepts like
personality and game .

Contrary to what some media says, the website, however, was not an incel forum, as there were people of every celibacy status there and there were no subforums on it that self-identified as incel subforums.

r/TRP
The major 2010s extant proponents of PUA were the subreddit R/TRP (which promotes a more holistic approach to PUA, as well as incorporating the concept of female hypergamy) and the PUA company Real Social Dynamics.
Given the advent of the #metoo movement and the rise of online dating, the PUA industry is increasingly coming to an end, but still somewhat influential.

Pick up artists often sell useless bootcamps, scamming hopeful people out of thousands of dollars and putting them at risk of macing, arrest, and harassment allegations.

The first popular PUA book was written by
Ross Jeffries and is called How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed .. There is a disclaimer on the first few pages warning that the contents could easily get one arrested if acted out fully. PUA Julien Blanc caused mass outrage among feminists online when videos of the guy choking random women during cold approaches went viral.

Does game work?
Put two pick-up artists with equal fame and money with normal social skills in a bar. Then approach an equal number of women, and the better looking guy will get the girl.


My Advice
If you are not natural handsome go to the gym and get muscles, eat well, take care of your Facial hair, dress nice etc. It will increase your strength and Confidence

Get as popular as you can, hold leadership positions and do anything to increase you status. This will also increase your Confidence

Hustle for money but be wise not to be an ATM.

Stop faking it till you make it, just make it without faking it
Dpsychologist
I hear @Dpsychologist......Money, looks and Status attracts, but just for a while.....the Game or PUA community teaches masculine qualities thats frame a man into a dominant or alpha male...the ones women lust for........

Check out Will Smith, Johnny depp and Brad Pitt.......they got looks, money and status.... yet their wives still cheated on them or created a toxic environment that emasculated them.

There is a masculine frame that comes from been a man, that women can't help been attracted to......the REAL pua community teaches this.......not Ubunja and the 'redpillers' on nairaland.
Re: LMS deleted by ubunja(m): 2:57pm On Aug 24, 2020
SteelMcqueen:
I hear @Dpsychologist......Money, looks and Status attracts, but just for a while.....the Game or PUA community teaches masculine qualities thats frame a man into a dominant or alpha male...the ones women lust for........

Check out Will Smith, Johnny depp and Brad Pitt.......they got looks, money and status.... yet their wives still cheated on them or created a toxic environment that emasculated them.

There is a masculine frame that comes from been a man, that women can't help been attracted to......the REAL pua community teaches this.......not Ubunja and the 'redpillers' on nairaland.
days later you still feel like you have an axe to grind with ubunja. Lol. Dude, you're the latest in a long line of haters. You'll tire and get over it and move on. They always do.
Re: LMS deleted by Dpsychologist(op): 10:01pm On Aug 24, 2020
SteelMcqueen:
I hear @Dpsychologist......Money, looks and Status attracts, but just for a while.....the Game or PUA community teaches masculine qualities thats frame a man into a dominant or alpha male...the ones women lust for........

Check out Will Smith, Johnny depp and Brad Pitt.......they got looks, money and status.... yet their wives still cheated on them or created a toxic environment that emasculated them.

There is a masculine frame that comes from been a man, that women can't help been attracted to......the REAL pua community teaches this.......not Ubunja and the 'redpillers' on nairaland.
What the so called PUA teaches are just band aid. They tell you to be confident, create a masculine frame etc. Basically it is faking it till you make it.

The problem is that Confidence cannot be faked, that is why most neophytes or novice end up terribly when they try to inculcate the so called techniques.

Confidence comes from somewhere. You can read a book or thread and get Confidence. You instead get Confidence from yourself. This can be done by improving your lifestyle. When you exercise, testosterone is build up in the body making you more masculine and confident. When you dress well you look and feel good.

You and i will agree that money brings Confidence as well as social status not necessary fame. You being a leader makes you manly. How did you think some Pastors end up Sleeping With their church members. Its mostly the fact that they are leaders and are seen as masculine.

When women start giving you greenlight all those frame the PUA are teaching will be automatic in you. As a man you are born naturally good with women. There are circumstances and conditions that made that implicit.

As for the Celebrities you listed. Being an alpha male doesn’t mean your Wife will never divorce you or have issues with you. Its the way you Handle it afterwards.
After angelina jolie divorced brad pitt he went ahead and was slaying pvssy up and down. Many women were having one night stand with him because he is off the market .

Infact an alpha male to woman A may be a weak man to woman B, dont forget that.
Re: LMS deleted by ubunja(m): 12:17am On Aug 25, 2020
Dpsychologist:
What the so called PUA teaches are just band aid. They tell you to be confident, create a masculine frame etc. Basically it is faking it till you make it.

The problem is that Confidence cannot be faked, that is why most neophytes or novice end up terribly when they try to inculcate the so called techniques.

Confidence comes from somewhere. You can read a book or thread and get Confidence. You instead get Confidence from yourself. This can be done by improving your lifestyle. When you exercise, testosterone is build up in the body making you more masculine and confident. When you dress well you look and feel good.

You and i will agree that money brings Confidence as well as social status not necessary fame. You being a leader makes you manly. How did you think some Pastors end up Sleeping With their church members. Its mostly the fact that they are leaders and are seen as masculine.

When women start giving you greenlight all those frame the PUA are teaching will be automatic in you. As a man you are born naturally good with women. There are circumstances and conditions that made that implicit.

As for the Celebrities you listed. Being an alpha male doesn’t mean your Wife will never divorce you or have issues with you. Its the way you Handle it afterwards.
After angelina jolie divorced brad pitt he went ahead and was slaying pvssy up and down. Many women were having one night stand with him because he is off the market .

Infact an alpha male to woman A may be a weak man to woman B, dont forget that.
ubunja:
bro a woman will cheat on any one. Because she's a free human with her own mind. You can be the greatest alpha ever and your wife still cheat on you. That is why I have always emphasised to guys that they should never seek to impose their will on women. Let women choose. So you stay uncommitted. So when she bleeps up you simple press next. And you don't beg her or kill yourself. You can't control how people act. But you can control how you react. The best you can do is to Make it as hard for a woman to cheat as possible. By being her fantasy (by letting her choose), getting her heavily invested in you emotionally etc. Threatening to whoop her ass if she cheats won't stop her from cheating. But simply make her more careful.
Re: LMS deleted by bitex2(m):
Pick up is just a NUMBERS GAME..
Re: LMS deleted by mumumugu(m): 1:20am On Aug 25, 2020
Who read the letter of at Paul to nairaoand.too long
Re: LMS deleted by Dpsychologist(op): 12:51pm On Aug 26, 2020
bitex2:
Pick up is just a NUMBERS GAME..The fundamental of Pick up community has always been APPROACH more.Simply because it's a game of probability and also because genuine confidence comes from overcoming repeated rejection.
Modern pick up artists know this truth but because they want to live gullible AFC(average frustrated chump) to pay for their boot camp they emphasise outcome and all the pickup lines and gimmicks so they can sell their products.
The best PUA is Mike Mehlman.His theory on seeking rejection and his emphasis on building confidence by overcoming rejection is the best dating advice out there.
LMS matter but Confidence has most point.
No matter your looks,riches or status you will still get rejected a vast majority of the time.
An ugly guy who approaches more will achieve more outcome than a shy handsome rich man who doesn't approach.

It's mostly a numbers game
I disagree with you on this. A guy with looks, money and status most time succeeds. Sometimes they get approached by ladies or are shown Green light. If you say looks money and status does not keep the girl for long i may agree.

Its always a numbers game. A man with looks(facial, dresswise) , money or status always have an edge over an Average who doesn’t dress well, is broke and has low status.
Re: LMS deleted by SteelMcqueen: 10:30am On Sep 02, 2020
Dpsychologist:
What the so called PUA teaches are just band aid. They tell you to be confident, create a masculine frame etc. Basically it is faking it till you make it.

The problem is that Confidence cannot be faked, that is why most neophytes or novice end up terribly when they try to inculcate the so called techniques.

Confidence comes from somewhere. You can read a book or thread and get Confidence. You instead get Confidence from yourself. This can be done by improving your lifestyle. When you exercise, testosterone is build up in the body making you more masculine and confident. When you dress well you look and feel good.

You and i will agree that money brings Confidence as well as social status not necessary fame. You being a leader makes you manly. How did you think some Pastors end up Sleeping With their church members. Its mostly the fact that they are leaders and are seen as masculine.

When women start giving you greenlight all those frame the PUA are teaching will be automatic in you. As a man you are born naturally good with women. There are circumstances and conditions that made that implicit.

As for the Celebrities you listed. Being an alpha male doesn’t mean your Wife will never divorce you or have issues with you. Its the way you Handle it afterwards.
After angelina jolie divorced brad pitt he went ahead and was slaying pvssy up and down. Many women were having one night stand with him because he is off the market .

Infact an alpha male to woman A may be a weak man to woman B, dont forget that.
Dpsychologist, I agree with you 100%.......everything you stated is what the TRUE PUA community teaches.......check out Chase Amante's articles
Re: LMS deleted by SteelMcqueen: 10:45am On Sep 02, 2020
bitex2:
Pick up is just a NUMBERS GAME..The fundamental of Pick up community has always been APPROACH more.Simply because it's a game of probability and also because genuine confidence comes from overcoming repeated rejection.
Modern pick up artists know this truth but because they want to live gullible AFC(average frustrated chump) to pay for their boot camp they emphasise outcome and all the pickup lines and gimmicks so they can sell their products.
The best PUA is Mike Mehlman.His theory on seeking rejection and his emphasis on building confidence by overcoming rejection is the best dating advice out there.
LMS matter but Confidence has most point.
No matter your looks,riches or status you will still get rejected a vast majority of the time.
An ugly guy who approaches more will achieve more outcome than a shy handsome rich man who doesn't approach.
It's mostly a numbers game
bitex2, I agree with everything you wrote up there except, The Numbers game is just a strategy, not the fundamental of the PUA community....... developing yourself and becoming a man that attracts women is the fundamental........
Re: LMS deleted by xxxXXXxxx: 3:36pm On Dec 15, 2020
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