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Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by asanwafo: 7:49am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar:I doubt ur literacy 2 Likes |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Kingspin(m): 7:51am On Aug 25, 2020 |
helinues:In Knu voice Mad people everywhere. |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by fadaroking: 7:52am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CAMA has come to takeover satanic churches which was run in the guise of a real church. Watch out peeps! 1 Like |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by asanwafo: 7:52am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar:Are U better in ur country with pseudo anti-homosexual laws |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Kingspin(m): 7:53am On Aug 25, 2020 |
donnie:How people spend their money should border you. |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by femmy2010(m): 7:53am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Catholic Church , Baptist Church , Apostolic Church ,Foursquare Church, Seventh Day Adventist Chruch ,NASFAT,NASFAT, QUAREB, etc are not complaining. Why is it that only those that looks like a one man business are complaining? 4 Likes |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by ELibraryNG: 7:53am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CAMA Policy is what the church get for keeping quiet in the face of tyranny 3 Likes
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Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Tell1234: 7:53am On Aug 25, 2020 |
paxonel:church system is light years ahead of any government system and when you talk of accountability and transparency in financing and reporting the church have shown more integrity than this abrakadabra government where loots are been recovered in billions and re- looted by same government. The end game is to start taxing the religious bodies to support their wasteful life style. 1 Like |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Offpoint: 7:54am On Aug 25, 2020 |
paxonel:There's no pastor that can spend church fund without the consent of deacons. Every penny is recorded and accounted. I don't know about other churches. |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by rajiedreez: 7:54am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar:e shock you? Lool |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by BreconHills(m): 7:55am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Afolabimills: The law can do anything to you when you are subject to it - it can even kill you. But the church was never supposed to be registered by the state and its law? What makes the church? Is it the gathering of the believers together under the authority of the name of Jesus Christ ( his name is most exalted)/ or the incorporation under CAMA and the gathering under the authority of the state? Must a church be incorporated? You can not have your cake and eat it, you can not enjoy the benefits doled out by your registration by the state and then turn around to say you are under Christ? There is a huge difference between law for the peaceful organization of society and law regulating the church? Why do you subject yourself willingly to a law that regulates the church when you are under no legal compulsion to do so?/Do you know the history of the Church pre Constantine or do you simply follow what you were born into - what you see around you? This is a matter of discernment not of knowledge. You say the church pays tax - of course it does if it is registered. But if twelve or fifteen people meet in a home under the authority of Jesus Christ and they observe the noise limits for residential zoning - are they not the church? Can they be taxed? Of course not. I thank God that in these times, the sifting of the church has begin so that the glorious church in it's foolishness and weakness may be revealed through the grace of God. The martyrs did not die in vain. 4 Likes |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by asanwafo: 7:56am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar:How many project have they done for the people apart from expanding the coast of their businesses? |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by NaMeAboki: 8:06am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Simply put; Bishop Oyedepo is a religious and tribal bigot who thrives on preaching hatred and division to his gullible flock rather than peace and unity in accordance with his calling as a man of God. He is lying to say CAMA is exclusively targeted at the Church because it isn't ; the law included not only the Church but also all other religious and non governmental organisations (NGOs) without bias. On the other hand, the bigot would rather abide by the same types of laws for his Church branches in Europe and America but would not succumb to do same in his own country - what a hypocrite! He apparently represents a growing number of sub-Saharan pastors who amass a tremendous amount of wealth against the contrasting backdrop of poverty among their increasing followers; contrary to their counterparts in the said Europe and America. It is therefore not hard to read meaning into his strong opposition to this law - because the days of fleecing their flocks to support such flamboyantly lavish jetset lifestyle on display by some of them may soon be over. 2 Likes |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by ICEWIN: 8:07am On Aug 25, 2020 |
If the church has 100% transperency,i see nothing wrong if they abide by what the govt want. many church divert church fund,the govt can't just wake up and make such policy,they have there reason. any church that has truth and open heart would concor. mind you the policy is not for church alone,but why are u people shading more light on church alone? the policy is simple,if u dont want it u remove your organization,church,NGO from CAC. mind u the church is not an organization or building,the church are the congregation headed by an individual. u and i both know the policy is good. Nigeria churches abroad are control by the govt over there,the Nigeria overseers did not challenge the govt,dey abide. CodeTemplar: |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Nobody: 8:10am On Aug 25, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi: U committing fallacy.....the church doesn’t come under CBN, SEC, NDIC, regulation..... banks, investment companies mode of operation is to collect and keep, or collect and increase...the public has to get their money back.... so asides regulation for tax collection, they are also protecting the masses so their money can be safe whenever they are ready to collect it back..is that not whey financial houses have to have a minim amount with CBN before starting operation... NGOs isn’t business or profit oriented but their mode of operation is to collect and use for humanitarian service .....they must be used for that... The problem with the church is that the monies aren’t for safe keeping, they aren’t for humanitarian service... they are just gift...that’s the problem..so unless gorvenent wants to force churches to pay tax, or the public from giving 100naira on sunday... what’s the point... The government can see churches’ books, it won’t amount to anything except churches that Mayb laundering money for drug cartels.... ..Where the church is concerned is the clause that an action by the appointed governmental head cannot be challenged.....that’s where this CAMA is a weapon....no one’s opinion/say should be unchallengable.....it’s a clause that has an agenda hidden by it....... even the president’s action isn’t final.... |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by bkool7(m): 8:11am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar: Did Jesus pay tax? |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by damosky12(m): 8:11am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar: My dear brother. This is obviously an attack. There are spiritual undertones to it. While we speak against it, we also have to pray. We have a Government that has never been accountable with public funds and the taxes we are forced to pay. We have a regime that is known to be totally corrupt - from electioneering processes to the activities of public agencies. We have lots of mistrust, violence and insecurity in the military, among politicians - political assassinations, thuggery, terrorism, etc. We have politicians who keep bullion van monies at home. Yet, drastic steps aren't taken to address these. The church that people willingly give to is now their problem. What's funny is that people who, normally, are aware of the ineptitude and decadence in our government are in support of this, just because they hate big churches and their pastors. Obviously, virtually all of those supporting this move are people who do not give to churches. They are people who have had issues with churches. But, they won't succeed! |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by paxonel(m): 8:14am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Offpoint:so what do the church use the money for? |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Nobody: 8:15am On Aug 25, 2020 |
ICEWIN: Have u listened to any of the opinion of the pastors including pstor Oyedepo?? Checking their financial records isn’t really the problem... The church is a gift collection body... what will ghe goventment see in such books... inflow from those giving by checks and transfer, and cash deposit after counting 100 and 50naira every sunday... Where the church is concerned is the clause that an action by the appointed governmental head cannot be challenged.....that’s where this CAMA sounds like a weapon....no one’s opinion/say should be unchallengable.....it’s a clause that has an agenda hidden by it....... even the president’s action isn’t final....... how can the government say we are appointing someone over you and whatever the person does isn’t challengable in a court....doesn’t that sound funny... 2 Likes |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by FatherOfJesus: 8:15am On Aug 25, 2020 |
The church is rotten and its a den for thieves. This has to be minitored backnbeta: |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by damosky12(m): 8:17am On Aug 25, 2020 |
femmy2010: Virtually all churches are complaining. I don't know Muslim organizations. If the government had been more accountable, don't you think no one will have an issue. The taxes you pay, and the billions and trillions in custody of the govt are always disappearing into a few hands. Don't you sincerely think the government should put their house in order first, before interfering with other people? |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Psoul(m): 8:19am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Government just want to humble church which is not possible. They want total control of the church so that church will not be strong again to oppose their wickedness. You mean to tell me that as we have registered our Friends Club with the CAC, the government should oversee our donations and how we use the money even without any member petitioning to government that funds are bn misused? A government that cannot manage the Tax-payers money, monies generated by Ministries and Parastatals now want to control how church funds are bn managed. What a crap. Those supporting this evil plan, cos of your hatred towards the church of God and jealousy against Men of God, you should not cry when the real agenda start to manifest. Government is not trying to do this for the good of anyone. They have never done anything for the good of the common man. It has always bn for their own selfish interest and this one is not an exceptional. Let's see how it unfolds. |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Offpoint: 8:19am On Aug 25, 2020 |
paxonel:Church maintenance, evangelism, sponsored orphans and windows children in school. 1 Like |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Globad(f): 8:20am On Aug 25, 2020 |
CodeTemplar: Why are you afraid of accountability and transparency? What will you guys lose by getting your numerous churches and mosques to be transparent? Naija! |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Globad(f): 8:21am On Aug 25, 2020 |
ELibraryNG: So, accountability is the same thing as tyranny? Chai! |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by foreshore(m): 8:21am On Aug 25, 2020 |
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Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Openbusiness: 8:23am On Aug 25, 2020 |
FatherOfJesus:Monitored by who: is it The House of ReprentaThieves or the Senathieves or the Federal Government of looting for looting by looting - who should monitor pls ![]() ![]() |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by farem: 8:24am On Aug 25, 2020 |
helinues: If you are not bothered about the financial integrity, then you are like the ones suggesting that a lunatic should be appointed to oversee a psychiatric! |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:25am On Aug 25, 2020 |
1StopRudeness: Charitable organizations and NGOs have the option of deregistering. Accountability and corporate governance is alien to us and it needs to start from somewhere. Religious organizations ought to be the light of the world and they have to let the light shine. Churches in Nigeria with affiliation with the West don't issues with this, because this is what they have been doing for ages, some of the will produce their audited accounts for the past 30 years 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by hardon1(m): 8:27am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Does this cama thing also apply to mosques as well ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:28am On Aug 25, 2020 |
hardon1: All charitable Organizations, NGOs, Associations and business organizations |
Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by Handy007: 8:29am On Aug 25, 2020 |
donnie:You are among those that want this Nigeria to be like the western world and you criticize their government process that Nigeria is trying to copy Or don't you know in the United kingdom Churches account are been monitored ![]() ![]() |
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