CodeTemplar:
Get lost.

XXXXTENTACION:
That one na your own opinion but if you don't like my opinion you can go and eat $hit

XXXXTENTACION:
That one na your own opinion but if you don't like my opinion you can go and eat $hit

SUPERPACK:
And same vocal christian leaders brought this government to power. Islamize this and that have they islamized you since you started blackmailing the government from 2015?

Gmajor:

When confronted with facts, you scurry away like a coward. Mtchew.

Goke7:




Most other churches where the founders are still alive don't want to do this

damosky12:


Virtually all churches are complaining. I don't know Muslim organizations.

If the government had been more accountable, don't you think no one will have an issue.

The taxes you pay, and the billions and trillions in custody of the govt are always disappearing into a few hands.

Don't you sincerely think the government should put their house in order first, before interfering with other people?

helinues:


Should that be the right question to ask at this time...

Let's see how government will oversee church income and then we can determine the level of transparency.

No going back about this...

femmy2010:


My brother , not all churches are complaining.
The government is not asking the churches to pay Taxes but put its house in order and we are all fine .
It is obvious many of those General overseers and founders are worst then politicians .
Tithes and offering equals to their private funds this days .

CodeTemplar:
You mean countries with homosexuality laws?

crowther15:
[s]Oga this trash you just posted here, I pray God will forgive you. The word of the cross is like a fool to those who will perish.
The member of the Living faith Mission didn't tell you they are living in poverty.
Is your tithe and offering going to the mission?
Is better you repent and accept Jesus Christ.[/s]

CodeTemplar:
Funds are not collected but donated willingly. The donors are continually donating knowing what the funds are used for so what is the role of an uninvited third party - the government?

CodeTemplar:
Funds are not collected but donated willingly. The donors are continually donating knowing what the funds are used for so what is the role of an uninvited third party - the government?

donnie:


Do you think the government is in position to oversee church income at this time, given the level of transparency wrt government funds.

donnie:


Are the churches not organized corporately? Okay, let's assume that they aren't. They are rigistered as Charities right? Shouldn't there be some sort of supervision to ensure that funds being collected are used for the said charitable purposes?

Don't you think this will keep business men posing as priests or pastors away from "minstry"?

donnie:


We're talking about people's money, you're saying WAY TRUTH AND LIFE.

peterafolayan:
The role of an uninvited third party is the registration the church did with them. After all Jesus didn't register His ministry with the government of His days.

favor914:
Aren’t they the ones that gave you the religion you & Oyedepo are practicing? If you mention Sango they will call you idol worshipper.

Keneeby:


The main issue here is government interfering with church leadership. Mallam Aboki who is a minister of Nigeria has power to suspend or dismiss church leadership and nobody can challenge it in court. This is a war against the church.

chiteny:


I believe it was not war against the church when mainly Christians in the north were being killed and none of the GOs shouting today stood their ground against it. Now its what touches them (money and power) everyone is shouting.

We had (probably still have) the opportunity to change the status quo of evil in this country but the GOs who frolic with these politicians will not make this categorical stance.

Just one Sunday protest in declaration from 2 to 3 GOs against just one or two evils that bedeviling this country would make us have a U-turn for the better. But of course none will speak up.

dane15:


I think you are missing the point. The Bishop's concerns are that, "Na from clap we dey enter dance". If the Bishop gets NGN200m in a year how much will his tax be from the point of Personal Income? Let's say NGN50m. How does that stop him from living well? His worries are that a government that is seemingly intolerant to other religions and uninterested in the welfare of Christians has been trying to tamper with the structure of Christianity for sometime. Not too long ago, we almost had a law that targeted the founders of Churches and almost wanted to replace them, hate speech bill came because some leaders didn't like the fact they were challenged by leaders from the pulpits, now we are talking about regulating a Church by unbelievers who don't understand what a Church is even all about.

See below:

The most disturbing aspect according to concerned Nigerians, especially Christians, is in Part C, sections 1 and 839 (1). The section thus appears to give the CAC (through a Registrar-General), wide powers to appoint or remove trustees (politically) to oversee the Church, hence the probability of these appointees who may not be of like faith, being used capriciously.

Shouldn't a responsible Government that has genuine concerns about the running of Churches and other organizations invite key stakeholders of the umbrella bodies of organizations concerned so that they can have a fair opportunity to give their reasons on why and how the document can be improved? Would getting their buy in not help reduce compliance costs? Why do we always copy civilized countries in an half baked manner?

What value is this part of the CAMA going to add to Nigerians? Will it end insecurity in the NE or transform our economy? NDDC has been overseen by the Presidency for years, what has changed? When did Government start overseeing spiritual activities? Is this another attempt to create work for another agency of Government to guzzle taxpayers money?
This is considering the backlash that this decision will generate in a country like Nigeria. Let me remind you that Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world. How do I know? A case in point, we had riots because someone drew a cartoon of a highly revered Prophet in a far away country. Yes, that's how religious Nigerians can be.

I do not see what value appointing a Christian as a Trustee in a Mosque management would bring and vice versa. Why can't we allow people to drink water and keep cup?

Christianvoice:


Your Northern elites collected the wealth of the entire north and enrich themselves while there is so much poverty in their religion releasing children into the streets to beg for food. How many big churches are in the north? How many Abokists or vulnerable people in the north go to church and contribute or give offering yet they are poor and beggers. Most of the big churches are in the south. We Southerners we are not complaining. Churches are really adding value to our lives. Children in the south are in schools and not out of schools or in the streets begging. Stop all this nonsense.it is Muslims that are complaining about churches and not born again Christians. We are doing well even when are not in politics like you

orunto27:
JESUS IS THE BLUE PRINT FOR CHURCHES AND CAN NEVER FIT INTO CAMA ADAPTED FOR RIFA-RUGA ISLAMISATION FULANISATION AND ANARCHY.

NaMeAboki:


The point I was making was that the position of the Bishop amounted to double standards and hypocrisy.

If he would abide by similar laws for his churches abroad then why wouldn't he do the same in his own country - why would he think he is above the laws here and not above those abroad?

Secondly, the CAMA law is not discriminatory or targeted at Christians only but equally affects all other religious organisations as well as NGOs; it is therefore misleading and quite dishonest of him to make ppl (especially his followers) believe otherwise.

The law simply wants to ensure transparency, especially since such organisations almost entirely rely on donated money; and that malicious groups (e.g. terrorists, extremists etc) do not use the cover of these organisations to channel money and sponsor activities that could otherwise threaten the state security.

If the Bishop and his ilk are clean/transparent enough then they should have no reason to feel threatened by such law - which anyway is not meant to tamper/control any of the said organisations but only to intervene when gross impropriety is detected.

No, I can't see the possibility where a non-Christian would be appointed as a member on the board of any Church and vice versa for other religions.

It is also false narrative for ppl like him and others to infer that the law was enacted because the govt is headed by a Muslim; this is because the law had been in the pipeline since Jonathan (himself a Christian).

It is also pertinent to note that govt (the executive in particular) does not make laws but the National Assembly does; for which there is a process, directly or indirectly involving all stakeholders.

helinues:


Should that be the right question to ask at this time...

Let's see how government will oversee church income and then we can determine the level of transparency.

No going back about this...

Kirigidi:
let your Islamic government go and oversee mosque income first. The trouble that Buhari is looking for may overwhelm him soon.

donnie:


Mosques don't run like businesses.

Kirigidi:
Is it Church that is run like business? You can't mock God Mr man.

donnie:


You and I know the answer to that question.

Kirigidi:
The way and manner we Christians run our church is non of your business. We don't interfere in the way you Moslems run your mosque.