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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:21pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
non of them is God begotten Son .
So where did the Bible now say the only begotten Son is the same as his Father, Jehovah God?
Evidence please! grin

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Acehart: 5:24pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


Mr Acehart
I know you're a man of reason. I respect that.
But you and your people should leave explanations out of this and just provide the scripture that said “Jesus is God”. Thank you. smiley

Hi, hope you had a nice meeting at the Kingdom Hall or online transmission?

I know you are aware of the events that took place in Revelations Chapter 5. We see how the very highest worship of heaven is was offered to the lamb(Rev 5:12-13). We saw all Angels and Elders bowed to the Lamb.

I’d like to assume that you know the first verse in the one hundredth and tenth Psalm of David, when translated from the original manuscript is: Elohim said to Adonai. (Psalm 110:1).

In Isaiah’s vision in the year his uncle died, he said: “I saw Adonai seated on a throne”. I would like to draw your attention to the indefinite article “a” - you know what it means.

In the New Testament, only Jesus Christ is called “Adonai”. The question you should ask is this: “who is Elohim?” or “who are Elohim”, because Adonai is a Singular, while “Elohim” is plural.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:25pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
If you refuse to answer my question neither will I answer yours.

I never asked you any question from the start, i only believe that Jesus is Michael and you said he is God.
We both reasoned along until you insisted that i should provide the scripture where what i believe is WRITTEN, that's why i said you too should do the same.
So if you're tired of answering your own way i'm not owing you any explanation! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:26pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


Well the Bible said "you are Gods" Psalms 82:6
So God's sons are also Gods but there's nowhere in the scriptures where it is written

"Jesus is God" smiley
psalm 82v6 is talking of children of the most high who were judges.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:27pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:

So where did the Bible now say the only begotten Son is the same as his Father, Jehovah God?
Evidence please! grin
I never said that the son is the same as the father.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 5:28pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
OK oo grin grin
Lemme just quote the words of Jesus at Matthew 10:24-25
““A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?”
If the Pharisees could call Jesus, Beelzebub/Satan, what do you think people of the same kind as the Pharisees—in this case, YOU, would call those of his household i.e. his disciples?
THINK! wink
In your wishful thinking you conveniently forget that you're in a group that belongs to Satan.

You, Maximus69 & Co, claim to be believers but are liars instead, the whole bunch of you, have learned the so-called deep things of Satan. God knows how you blasphemously speak against Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:31pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
psalm 82v6 is talking of children of the most high who were judges.

Well the Bible says they are Gods! cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:33pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


I never asked you any question from the start, i only believe that Jesus is Michael and you said he is God.
We both reasoned along until you insisted that i should provide the scripture where what i believe is WRITTEN, that's why i said you too should do the same.
So if you're tired of answering your own way i'm not owing you any explanation! smiley

I said Jesus is God because the bible affirms it.
@bolded, good to know that 'Jesus being angel Michael 'is your unfounded belief and has nothing to do with the bible.

It is your personal belief vs what the bible teaches not my belief, I only follow the bible.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:33pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:

I never said that the son is the same as the father.

Excellent!

So Jesus served as God because he's one of God's sons. He is not the Father and God we all should worship! John 20:17 smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:35pm On Aug 30, 2020
Acehart:


Hi, hope you had a nice meeting at the Kingdom Hall or online transmission?

I know you are aware of the events that took place in Revelations Chapter 5. We see how the very highest worship of heaven is was offered to the lamb(Rev 5:12-13). We saw all Angels and Elders bowed to the Lamb.

I’d like to assume that you know the first verse in the one hundredth and tenth Psalm of David, when translated from the original manuscript is: Elohim said to Adonai. (Psalm 110:1).

In Isaiah’s vision in the year his uncle died, he said: “I saw Adonai seated on a throne”. I would like to draw your attention to the indefinite article “a” - you know what it means.

In the New Testament, only Jesus Christ is called “Adonai”. The question you should ask is this: “who is Elohim?” or “who are Elohim”, because Adonai is a Singular, while “Elohim” is plural.

Our virtual meetings have been okay, thank you for asking.


Well let's explore the Scriptures then

Revelation 5:13

“And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.””

Notice the highlighted words, it will catch the attention of any honesthearted individual that the verse is referring to two DISTINCT individuals. I don't know if you agree?

Jehovah God is that “One” in capitals and never has Jesus been called “the One”, just his Father, Jehovah. See Isaiah 43:12, 48:17 Daniel 7:9,13; Habakkuk 1:13, Revelation 4:9-11
Of course, Jesus would receive honor being the “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.”—John 1:29 but he and his Father/God are two individuals entirely and not some mishmash of personalities.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:36pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


Well the Bible says they are Gods! cheesy

They are gods, no problem, they are not God.
Jesus is God and the mighty God Jehovah himself.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:37pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:


I said Jesus is God because the bible affirms it.
@bolded, good to know that 'Jesus being angel Michael 'is your unfounded belief and has nothing to do with the bible.

It is your personal belief vs what the bible teaches not my belief, I only follow the bible.

@ bolded is laughable because you failed to provide in the scriptures where it is written

"Jesus is God" cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:39pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:


They are gods, no problem, they are not God.
Jesus is God and the mighty God Jehovah himself.

Your PERSONAL opinion Sir! cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:42pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


Excellent!

So Jesus served as God because he's one of God's sons. He is not the Father and God we all should worship! John 20:17 smiley

Are you saying that we shouldnt worship Jehovah?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:43pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
I never said that the son is the same as the father.


You just keep contradicting yourself here and there. undecided
Perhaps DrLiveLogic should come restructure your thinking again? grin



Question: Please who is the Father?
Answer: Jehovah God (Isaiah 64:8, Matthew 6:9, John 20:17)

Question: Please who is the Son?
Answer: Jesus, of course(Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)

So I ask, Mr solite3, are Jehovah and Jesus the same person or not? undecided

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:43pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


@ bolded is laughable because you failed to provide in the scriptures where it is written

"Jesus is God" cheesy
I didnt fail I provided Dappa with it, and I should have provided more if only you guys has provided answers to my question

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:45pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
Are you saying that we shouldnt worship Jehovah?
Well i hope you've not forgotten the name of my GROUP? wink
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:46pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:



You just keep contradicting yourself here and there. undecided
Perhaps DrLiveLogic should come restructure your thinking again? grin



Question: Please who is the Father?
Answer: Jehovah God (Isaiah 64:8, Matthew 6:9, John 20:17)

Question: Please who is the Son?
Answer: Jesus, of course(Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)

So I ask, Mr solite3, are Jehovah and Jesus the same person or not? undecided

Jesus and the father are not the same person but rather one being.

It shows you dont even know about the trinity.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:47pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:

Well i hope you've not forgotten the name of my GROUP? wink
good
go back to your question and think through it properly.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:48pm On Aug 30, 2020
I think the attention of DrLiveLogic is needed undecided
Mr solite3 has committed the same blunder again lipsrsealed

solite3:

I never said that the son[Jesus] is the same as the father.[Jehovah]

Few minutes later...

solite3:

Jesus is God and the mighty God Jehovah himself.

I don't know if I'm the only one thinking about this—but I think solite3 should see a therapist to ascertain whether this condition is his fault or not. grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:48pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:

I didnt fail I provided Dappa with it, and I should have provided more if only you guys has provided answers to my question

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Just quote where the Bible says

"Jesus is God" period! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:49pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:

Jesus and the father are not the same person but rather one being.

It shows you dont even know about the trinity.

Why would I waste my time knowing some worthless god that can't dispense accurate knowledge about itself to those who worship it?
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:50pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:

Jesus and the father are not the same person but rather one being.

It shows you dont even know about the trinity.

Because it doesn't exist! cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:51pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
I think the attention of DrLiveLogic is needed undecided
Mr solite3 has committed the same blunder again lipsrsealed



Few minutes later...



I don't know if I'm the only one thinking about this—but I think solite3 should see a therapist to ascertain whether this condition is his fault or not. grin
you dont even know, what you are arguing against, if you knew you should have realised the argument has already ended from the beginning.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:52pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
good
go back to your question and think through it properly.

Nothing to think again just quote where the Bible says

"Jesus is God" i'll continue from there! wink
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:52pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


Because it doesn't exist! cheesy

cheesy like atheist say God does not exist.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:53pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
you dont even know, what you are arguing against, if you knew you should have realised the argument has already ended from the beginning.


Arguing or stating facts? undecided
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:53pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
you dont even know, what you are arguing against, if you knew you should have realised the argument has already ended from the beginning.

Then what are you still doing? cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 5:54pm On Aug 30, 2020
Solite3 please do justice to this ASAP. We're waiting to hear from you.
Maximus69:


Nothing to think again just quote where the Bible says

"Jesus is God" i'll continue from there! wink
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:54pm On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:


STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Just quote where the Bible says

"Jesus is God" period! smiley

You still has not provided where the bible says Jesus is Michael
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:55pm On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:

cheesy like atheist say God does not exist.

The word "GOD" is WRITTEN in the scriptures thousands of times but TRINITY doesn't exist except in the heads of Trinitarians! cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:57pm On Aug 30, 2020
cheesy
solite3:

You still has not provided where the bible says "Jesus is God"

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