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Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by IamMichael(op): 8:37pm On Sep 11, 2020
spartan117:
The question was quite clear. I'll rephrase it to better help your understanding. You claimed Judaism is an offshoot of an old religion, what's the name of this old religion? What's the name of the god of this religion?
You seem to be a child. The same bible on numerous occasions mentioned how Israelites will fall away from their god and resort to worshipping other gods. Obviously, you read a different version of the bible where Elijah challenged the prophets of Baal to a god duel... The modern day version will be atheists constant challenge for religionists to show a microscopic level believable proof of existence of god's. That should give you an idea of how religious practices were back then. Just like now, it all got its validity from demonstrating whose god is more powerful either through wars. Note, this doesn't mean that the said contest by Elijah actually happened in real life.

Learn to control your religious bias, that way you begin to get a clear picture of things. Brainwashed religious zealot's always think they can defend the absurdities of their religious faith and belief system. But, in the end, they end up displaying their total ignorance and lack of ability to view things from several perspectives.

If you did read the book you so hinge on defending, you won't be asking this type of embarrassing question.
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by spartan117(m): 8:46pm On Sep 11, 2020
IamMichael:
You seem to be a child. The same bible on numerous occasions mentioned how Israelites will fall away from their god and resort to worshipping other gods. Obviously, you read a different version of the bible where Elijah challenged the prophets of Baal to a god duel... The modern day version will be atheists constant challenge for religionists to show a microscopic level believable proof of existence of god's.

Learn to control your religious bias, that way you begin to get a clear picture of things. Brainwashed religious zealot's always think they can defend the absurdities of their religious faith and belief system. But, in the end, they end up displaying their total ignorance and lack of ability to view things from several perspectives.

If you did read the book you so hinge on defending, you won't be asking this type of embarrassing question.
The question is simple: what's the name of the religion which Judaism is an offshoot of as you earlier claimed in the quoted text below?
What's the name of their god?

IamMichael:
Judaism is an offshoot of older religion's
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A freethinker of your calibre should be able to provide evidence to back up his claims. After all only "religious people" don't.
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by IamMichael(op): 7:30am On Sep 12, 2020
spartan117:
The question is simple: what's the name of the religion which Judaism is an offshoot of as you earlier claimed in the quoted text below?
What's the name of their god?



A freethinker of your calibre should be able to provide evidence to back up his claims. After all only "religious people" don't.
Even though i know where your blind question is leading you, i will still oblige you the answer to your question just so i will know if it will make you change your belief. If it doesn't, well, you would only have proved my point.

The origins of Judaism according to the current historical view, in contradistinction to the religious account as described in the text of the Hebrew Bible, lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism, then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible.

During the Iron Age I, the Israelite religion became distinct from the Canaanite polytheism out of which it evolved. This process began with the development of Yahwism, the monolatristic worship of Yahweh that gave acknowledgment to the existence, but suppressed the worship, of other Canaanite gods. Later, this monolatristic belief cemented into a strict monotheistic belief and worship of Yahweh alone, with the rejection of the existence of all other gods, whether Canaanite or foreign.
From the above excerpt, you can see that the religious practices is categorised as ANCIENT CANAANITE POLYTHEISM. Like the Protestant churches and Catholic Church, like Ancient Canaanite Polytheism and Judaism.

I have already mentioned Baal previously, but you probably didn't see that cuz you are focused on trying to prove whatever it is you have in mind. Here, i decided to provide you a list of all the gods in polytheistic Canaanland.

Note the bolded!



•Adonis, god of youth, beauty and desire, son of Astarte. In Greek mythology, he is the lover of Aphrodite and Persephone. Linked to the planet Mercury.

•Aglibol, god of the moon and brother of Malakbel. Part of a trio of gods of Palmyra, Syria along with Bel and Yarhibol. Also part of another trio with Baalshamin and Malakbel.

•Anat, virgin goddess of war and strife, sister and putative mate of Ba'al Hadad.

•Arsay, goddess of the underworld, one of the three daughters of Ba'al Hadad.

•Arsu, god of the evening star and twin brother of Azizos.

Athirat, "walker of the sea", Mother Goddess, wife of El (also known as Elat and after the Bronze Age as Asherah).

•Astoreth or Athtart, better known by her Greek name Astarte, is the goddess of war, love, and fertility, is the sister of Anat and assists her in the Myth of Ba'al.

•Ashtar-Chemosh, wife of Chemosh and goddess of the Moabites.

Asherah, queen consort of El (Ugaritic religion), Elkunirsa (Hittite religion), Yahweh (Israelite religion), Amurru (Amorite religion), Anu (Akkadian religion) and 'Amm (Religion in pre-Islamic Arabia) Symbolized by an Asherah pole, a common sight in ancient Canaan.

•Ashima, goddess of fate.

•Atargatis, wife of Hadad, goddess of fertility and the chief goddess of northern Syria
Attar, god of the morning star ("son of the morning"wink who tried to take the place of the dead Baal and failed. Male counterpart of Athtart.
Azizos, god of the morning star and twin brother of Arsu.

•Baalah, properly Baʿalah, the wife or female counterpart of Baal (also Belili)

•Ba'alat Gebal, goddess of Byblos, Phoenicia. She was distinguished in iconography to Astarte or similar goddesses by two, tall, upright feathers in her headdress.

•Ba'al Hadad (lit. master of thunder), god of storms, thunder, lightning and air. King of the gods. Uses the weapons Driver and Chaser in battle. Often referred to as Baalshamin.[5]
Ba'al Hermon, titular local deity of Mount Hermon.

•Baal Hammon, god of vegetative fertility and renewer of all energies of Ancient Carthage.

•Baalshamin also called Baal Shamem and Baal Shamaim, supreme sky god of Palmyra, Syria whose temple was destroyed on August 23, 2015 by ISIL terrorists. His attributes were the eagle and the lightning bolt. Part of trinity of deities along with Aglibol and Malakbel.

•Baal-zephon or Baalzephon, properly Baʿal Zaphon or Ṣaphon. Alternate form of Baal Hadad as lord of Mount Zaphon.

•Bel or Bol, was the chief god of Palmyra, Syria whose temple was destroyed on August 30, 2015 by ISIL terrorists.

•Chemosh, possibly one of the sons of El, a god of war and destruction and the national god of the Moabites and the Ammonites.

•Dagon (Dagan) god of crop fertility and grain, father of Ba'al Hadad.

El, also called 'Il or Elyon ("Most High"wink, god of creation, husband of Athirat.

•Eshmun, god, or as Baalat Asclepius, goddess, of healing.

•Gad, god of fortune.

•Horon, an underworld god, co-ruler of the underworld, twin brother of Melqart, a son of Mot. Bethoron in Israel, takes its name from Horon.

•Ishara, goddess of oath and wife of Dagon
Ishat, goddess of fire, wife of Moloch. She was slain by Anat.

•Kotharat, seven goddesses of marriage and pregnancy.

•Kothar-wa-Khasis, the skilled god of craftsmanship, created Yagrush and Aymur (Driver and Chaser) the weapons used by the god Ba'al Hadad.

•Liluri, goddess of mountains and wife of Manuzi. Bulls were sacrificed to both of them.

Lotan, the twisting, seven-headed serpent ally of Yam.

•Malakbel, god of the sun, vegetation, welfare, angel of Bel and brother of Agilbol. Part of a trinity of deities in Palmyra, Syria along with Aglibol and Baalshamin.

•Manuzi, god of weather and husband of Liluri. Bulls were sacrificed to both of them.

•Marqod, god of dance.

•Melqart, "king of the city", god of Tyre, the underworld and cycle of vegetation in Tyre, co-ruler of the underworld, twin brother of Horon and son of Mot.

•Misor, twin brother of Sydyk.

•Moloch, putative god of fire, husband of Ishat.

Mot or Mawat, god of death (not worshiped or given offerings).

•Nikkal-wa-Ib, goddess of orchards and fruit
Pidray, goddess of light and lightning, one of the three daughters of Ba'al Hadad.

•Qadeshtu, lit. "Holy One", putative goddess of love, desire and lust. Also a title of Asherah.

•Resheph, god of plague and of healing.

•Shadrafa, god of medicine or healing.

•Shachar and Shalim, twin mountain gods of dawn and dusk, respectively. Shalim was linked to the netherworld via the evening star and associated with peace.

Shamayim, (lit. "Skies"wink, god of the heavens, paired with Eretz, the land or earth.

Shapash, also transliterated Shapshu, goddess of the sun; sometimes equated with the Mesopotamian sun god Shamash,[14] whose gender is disputed. Some authorities consider Shamash a goddess.

•Sydyk, the god of righteousness or justice, sometimes twinned with Misor, and linked to the planet Jupiter.


•Tallay, the goddess of winter, snow, cold and dew, one of the three daughters of Ba'al Hadad.

•Yam (lit. sea-river) the god of the sea and the river, also called Judge Nahar (judge of the river).

•Yarhibol, solar god and "lord of the spring". Part of a trinity of co-supreme gods of Palmyra, Syria along with Aglibol and Bel.

•Yarikh, god of the moon and husband of Nikkal, separated husband of Shapash the sun goddess.

I hope you are satisfied!
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by spartan117(m): 8:17am On Sep 12, 2020
IamMichael:
Even though i know where your blind question is leading you, i will still oblige you the answer to your question just so i will know if it will make you change your belief. If it doesn't, well, you would only have proved my point.


From the above excerpt, you can see that the religious practices is categorised as ANCIENT CANAANITE POLYTHEISM. Like the Protestant churches and Catholic Church, like Ancient Canaanite Polytheism and Judaism.

I have already mentioned Baal previously, but you probably didn't see that cuz you are focused on trying to prove whatever it is you have in mind. Here, i decided to provide you a list of all the gods in polytheistic Canaanland.

Note the bolded!



I hope you are satisfied!
Come on this is laughable, you posted a bunch of stuff without listing a source, you should know better come on try again.
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by IamMichael(op): 5:49pm On Sep 12, 2020
spartan117:
Come on this is laughable, you posted a bunch of stuff without listing a source, you should know better come on try again.
I can't stop laughing. Lol! Now he is looking for source. Definitely a kid!

Once you see a post "on quote" in Nairaland, it means the poster is not the author or original poster of the contents inside the post. Knowing the source of the quote is as easy as copying and pasting the quoted post into a search engine and it will directly lead you to the original source.

That notwithstanding, Wikipedia is the Source. It's not like it's a secret knowledge, just that you people don't read and prefer to ironically believe that a book can give you all the answers about nature and life.

Wisdom question: Can you buy everything you need in life in a single shop or from a single seller?
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by spartan117(m): 6:23pm On Sep 12, 2020
IamMichael:
I can't stop laughing. Lol! Now he is looking for source. Definitely a kid!

Once you see a post "on quote" in Nairaland, it means the poster is not the author or original poster of the contents inside the post. Knowing the source of the quote is as easy as copying and pasting the quoted post into a search engine and it will directly lead you to the original source.

That notwithstanding, Wikipedia is the Source. It's not like it's a secret knowledge, just that you people don't read and prefer to ironically believe that a book can give you all the answers about nature and life.

Wisdom question: Can you buy everything you need in life in a single shop or from a single seller?
No need to get salty bro. Show me your source and by the way anyone can edit a Wikipedia page but show me the Wikipedia page you are talking about. What's so hard about that?
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by IamMichael(op): 9:47pm On Sep 12, 2020
spartan117:
No need to get salty bro. Show me your source and by the way anyone can edit a Wikipedia page but show me the Wikipedia page you are talking about. What's so hard about that?
Your Chronology of Goal Post Shifting.


Goal post shift 1: Show me religion Judaism came out from. Gets Shown!

Goal Post Shift 2: Show me source of your post. Gets shown!

Goal Post Shift 3: Show me your source, don't be too salty. Even when the source has been shown him, he is still asking for source. Maybe you should ask for link instead. For people like you though, the link will still not satisfy you.

Goal Post Shift 4: Chips in that anyone can edit Wikipedia to make Wikipedia a weak source and look cheap.

Dude, is there anything that magically grew wings and popped into the internet? Didn't someone put it there? What of the things in books? Where there not people involved in the writing and printing process?

People like you lack the capacity to see the flaw in your thoughts.
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by spartan117(m): 12:47am On Sep 13, 2020
IamMichael:
Your Chronology of Goal Post Shifting.


Goal post shift 1: Show me religion Judaism came out from. Gets Shown!

Goal Post Shift 2: Show me source of your post. Gets shown!

Goal Post Shift 3: Show me your source, don't be too salty. Even when the source has been shown him, he is still asking for source. Maybe you should ask for link instead. For people like you though, the link will still not satisfy you.

Goal Post Shift 4: Chips in that anyone can edit Wikipedia to make Wikipedia a weak source and look cheap.

Dude, is there anything that magically grew wings and popped into the internet? Didn't someone put it there? What of the things in books? Where there not people involved in the writing and printing process?

People like you lack the capacity to see the flaw in your thoughts.
It seems you don't have a source.
Well I wish you the best in your life and I pray that you find what you truly need.

Happy Sunday to you bro
Shalom.
Re: I Am Considering Quitting My Illuminati Membership To Join a Higher Order. by IamMichael(op): 5:59am On Sep 13, 2020
spartan117:
It seems you don't have a source.
Well I wish you the best in your life and I pray that you find what you truly need.

Happy Sunday to you bro
Shalom.
Happy Sunday to you too. I do hope you change your perspectives though!
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