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Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Splinz(m): 9:18am On Sep 20, 2020 |
LaReinaa: Please any proof? |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by SocialJustice: 9:20am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Akube1z:She has to do it herself, salvation is a very personal race, no intercession. But if she did then she's surely saved. She might not have done it to your seeing but hopefully she did. 1 Like |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Okuda(m): 9:22am On Sep 20, 2020 |
tiredoflife: was the thief on the cross baptized? 1 Like |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by MrNipplesLover(m): 9:23am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Thank you, sweet Jesus. ❤ 1 Like |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Reference(m): 9:23am On Sep 20, 2020 |
In broad terms as long as there is life, there is hope. Mark my words carefully, HOPE is leaning to God. Whether it will eventually happen is another matter because the author of sin is very cunny and calculative and his objective is solely to destroy you so do not think for a minute one can live a reckless life and bailout to safety at the last minute. The devil has that covered as well and since you cannot determine your life, or the minute you will leave this earth is is wise to put on the life jacket or safety/seat belt ALWAYS or as they say in my industry AT ALL TIMES. Receive the grace for salvation WHILE IT IS YET DAY. Concerning your sister, the 'we prayed' I assume refers to you and her. If it doesn't I'm afraid you cannot 'pray salvation' into anyone's life. I always tell folks, Christianity is not a religion but a RELATIONSHIP reestablished between you and your maker. It is personal, of personalities. There is little 'WE' in it. Each individual has a soul that is as different as two SIM cards on a network. One cannot plainly gain access to another's conversations. Christianity is also a FAITH whereby our relationship with God is held in escrow, in trust. We cannot see Him but believe Him. I tell you, it is impossible for a man to determine the 'belief' of another man so no man can tell whether another is truly saved, thoughtless of one like your sister on her deathbed. It is impossible to tell the state of her mind if it was indeed conscious to events because one clearly needs to be conscious to sin and make a conscious decision for Christ to be saved. Not by confessions alone, but by reprove of guilt. Only the Holy Spirit can do this, no one else can. The good news however is that you made an attempt and His grace can bridge the gap. She may be saved but it will be because of what God does, not by what you attempted to do which is unlikely on its own to work. It is very, very, hard for a last minute change of destiny. Folks out there, PLS DONOT TRY THIS AT HOME. ACT TODAY. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Okuda(m): 9:24am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Openbusiness:it also works if she was prayed for and in her heart accepted the prayers even without saying anything. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by criuze(m): 9:25am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Openbusiness: if you believe in Jesus does it mean your sin doesn't count again do you have to wallow in sin and wickedness because you believed |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Sunnycliff(m): 9:34am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Yes naa |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Openbusiness: 9:34am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda:No, biblical salvation doesn't work that way. You have to CONFESS it PUBLICLY with your OWN MOUTH. Believing is just one part of it and it won't work without the second part, which is personal confession. Someone praying for her and she accepting in her heart means she believed the prayer, but without a public confession of your faith in Jesus. Remember Jesus said something like those who denied him before people on Earth, he will also deny them before his Father in Heaven. Meaning people who didn't publicly confess their faith in Jesus won't and can't get salvation. There has to be a public open declaration with your own mouth. Romans 10:8 - 9 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by UyaiIncomparabl(f): 9:36am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Splinz: Proof. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Iamdboss: 9:37am On Sep 20, 2020 |
If you need best answer, you have to ask God |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by ggirl4real: 9:41am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda: So anyone that believes that Jesus is the son of God will automatically make heaven even if he is lieing, fornicating, stealing, cheating others, unfaithful to his spouse, drunk, etc? Is that your point? |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Nyanabo2: 9:43am On Sep 20, 2020 |
ggirl4real: Confession is between you and God. Not you God and a third party. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by OkhaiAsein(m): 9:44am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda:not with the heart o my brother u must confess with your mouth Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be save |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by lekki1444: 9:45am On Sep 20, 2020 |
you are always forgiven off your sins. however being forgiven and paying for your sins are 2 different things. you will always pay for your sins. You are forgiven but you will pay for it. its like my son steals my money. i will forgive him but i will punish him |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by ecomalchemist(m): 9:46am On Sep 20, 2020 |
A very Religious country yet we are the most dubious, uncouth and vile human beings on the face of the planet. People wey go go heaven for Nigeria no go pass 3, wallahi. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by ggirl4real: 9:48am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Nyanabo2: The argument here is: If she did not confess her sins on the hospital bed before dieing, will God forgive her and put her name in heavenly list or not? 1 Like |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by ggirl4real: 9:50am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda: In the OP's example, the sick person did not confess by herself, will she still be forgiven? |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Okuda(m): 9:53am On Sep 20, 2020 |
ggirl4real: even if she did not open her mouth to confess but her heart was repentant and accepted his prayers, there is a high chance she would still make heaven. this is my understanding. i am not God though. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Okuda(m): 9:56am On Sep 20, 2020 |
OkhaiAsein: see let me tell you something about this God that you people dont know. he can decide to go to hellfire now and bring out one person there and make him clean and put this person in heaven and nobody can question that authority. Truly He does follows his words and sometimes he does otherwise. you cannot question it. did you know that the thief on the cross did not explicitly confess his sins, what did he say? "remembrr me when you get into your kingdom". that was belief. he did not say god forgive me, thay na confession? and Jesus told him he would be with him in paradise |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Tobechuckwu(m): 9:56am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Akube1z:Personally,there are two ways to this. 1- If she has confessed Jesus Christ as her lord nd saviour before then , she is saved.But she might have committed sin even after confessing the lordship of Jesus Christ, which is why confessions of sins come in nd according to 1 John 1 ,the blood of Jesus Christ is used for cleansing from all unrighteousness. 2.- If she has confessed the lordship of Jesus Christ,nd she has sin after the confessions,the elders of the church can pray for her nd ask for forgiveness on her behalf nd the sin shall be forgiven her according to the book of James. Remember Jesus Christ said to his disciples, whosoever sin u forgive,the sin shall be forgiven. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by ggirl4real: 9:58am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda: OK Sir |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Reference(m): 9:59am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Just to add to what I said earlier. Christianity is a relationship and reconciliation through Jesus Christ was obtained through the love that breeds sacrifice, true love. Contrary to a lot of thinking out there, God does not rule by fear and certainly does not want you related to Him on the basis of fear. If you are dying and fear hell then your quest for a relationship is QUESTIONABLE. Hell should not be the reason why you seek God and should not be a reason why you follow after him. If as a man or woman I seek to get married because of the fear I have for something outside alone, for example, in our society, the fear of poverty, the fear of social rejection, etc, and not because I love the person, that relationship is certainly not genuine but just one of convenience. God doesn't want to be your parachute or escape pod but your Father and your God. The greatest proof of salvation is one between lovers. You come to love Him after He proved His by making the ultimate sacrifice in His Son Jesus. And you love Him by giving your life to Him at your MOST inconvenience. That is why it is best to do it today when there are doubters, mockers, and resistance aplenty. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Openbusiness: 9:59am On Sep 20, 2020 |
criuze:Nobody said you should wallow in sin and wickedness because you have been redeemed and have become the Redeemed. The fact that you are the Redeemed means you have a natural tendency to not sin, you are not like the others who sin by nature because they have a sin nature, because your nature is different and is a nature of righteousness. Sin is not consistent with the Redeemed. He might sin from time to time as he is learning to grow in his new nature but he cannot be condemned for sin - NEVER! His "sin" doesn't count. And the concept of sin for the Redeemed is different from the concept of sin for those that are not Redeemed. The thing is, sin is not just an action or act or an event, it is actually a concept or theory, or law, like you have 1 + 1 = 2, sin functions the same way like a proven scientific law. Same thing with Salvation. The concepts of Sin and Salvation are among the easiest concepts or laws in the Bible, they are very straightforward to understand and not complex at all. |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by heendrix(m): 9:59am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Righteousness89: I opened the thread hoping to see ur comment but now that you've confirmed she's at Jesus feet, no need to read further happy Sunday |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Okuda(m): 10:00am On Sep 20, 2020 |
ggirl4real: God is God you cannot question his way of things. what you are writing is not what i said. what i mean os that sometimes God uses situation that dont even follow the book to fulfil his will. i believe strongly of that girl had a heart of repentance and accepted that prayer, she would go to heaven but i am not God. i am only speaking from what i understand of him. 1 Like |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by ggirl4real: 10:03am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda: What if she didn't have a heart of repentance but accepted the prayer prayed on her behalf? Will she still make heaven? |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by tiredoflife(m): 10:04am On Sep 20, 2020 |
tonyson010: Jesus said when a man confesses his sin and is baptised He is saved Go ask Jesus why he said so |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by femi4: 10:04am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Akube1z:Your question and title ain't related Your prayers cannot change your relative standing with God 2. Concerning the title, any one who repented even just before his death will bevsave Lk23:41-43 41 And we indeed justly, for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Officialgarri: 10:05am On Sep 20, 2020 |
I'm not God and I do not know how he thinks, but I'll explain to you how I feel he thinks, especially based on my own personal experience If one feels he would die at a particular time, possibly because you can't breathe well or there's a gun pointed at your head.... Fine, you start to pray and ask for forgiveness from God. What you should then ask yourself is; will I continue to live a righteous life if given a second chance? Is the prayer for forgiveness out of sincerity and how bad you feel about your former life? ....... Or you are only praying for forgiveness out of fear of death and hell. Now, I've noticed that people only ask for forgiveness because of fear (especially guys who belongs to various cult groups and there's a rival gang doing house search) but when you survive that hit, you will continue in the old ways of vengeance and wickedness. God sees our heart and he knows if you are willing to live a good life if given a second chance. 1 Like |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by tiredoflife(m): 10:07am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Okuda: The place of the cross was different Understand the timing As at then Jesus had not died And baptism is a form of nailing to the cross Saying I am at enemity to the world The thief was on the cross And that he sided with Jesus on that cross It was first a sign of submission and later a sign of baptism What the cross is to him is what baptism is for us |
Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Kingbuhari(m): 10:07am On Sep 20, 2020 |
You can die and go and find out for us , if she's truely in paradise eating apples and singing praises with Angel Michael or she's in hell fire smoking Igbo ( weed ) with fela kuti and 2pac |
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