Gwagone:
It is normal as we see lots of vehicles without license too in the country

So because the vehicle and driver don't have license, the fuel used to finish before reaching destination?
Na only people wey get licence wey their fuel no dey finish?

Please explain more.

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

Your number 3, might be wrong, they just said the chopper don't have that capacity

MASTAkiLLAh:
wetin I do

Na the Pilot I dey talk about sir. You're still a learner, until you beat his record.

FarahAideed:
I have been vindicated once more when I said the Helicopter ran out of fuel

Totally agree. Happens once a while. Miscalculation, faulty guages, corner cutting, many things happen. The chartered flight that crashed in Brazil carrying the Chapecoense team a few years ago had the same issue, corner cutting in not carrying the mandatory fuel reserves...

When an aircraft goes down and breaks apart completely without igniting a fire, it is most likely the tanks are empty.

It's all rubbish reports to malign the dead, how can u say an experience pilot wants 2 commits suicide by flying without fuel,
Are u guys aware he called 4 may day & deliberately empty the d fuel tank 2 avoid explosions, knowing dat d crash in residential area is imminent

noble71:

I don't know who to believe. I know how this country works once there is casualty everybody will be shifting blames.

Rather than do a comprehensive report to find out the true cause of the crash they will be looking for who to blame.

This is the punitive response to all disaster management we have in this shithole.

Now they are blaming the pilot.

Same pilot that took off from PH that has a fuel dump?

I am not buying this crap.

This is an old model helicopter and I don't think it has the capacity to dump fuel. Only military helicopters have that capacity for all i know. Nobody at the scene said the pilot dumped fuel. Even if he did (that is if the helicopter has the capacity) that would have been reckless of him dumping fuel at a low altitude

wawu!!! The pilot just off ignition and tried to put the jet on free . Life got no replacement . Handle it with care .

whytediamond:



Na the Pilot I dey talk about sir. You're still a learner, until you beat his record.

weyrey alasho I tell you say I wan beat day kind record ? Me wey dey even fear to enter the damn thing except when absolutely necessary... Make I report you to sango first, I dey come

Enough with the blame game.

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

Don't mind them, they normally fail to do something at the right time and onces something happens they will come up with useless stories to protect themselves.

Please help me with a JOB
07036687832 is my number

MASTAkiLLAh:
weyrey alasho I tell you say I wan beat day kind record ? Me wey dey even fear to enter the damn thing except when absolutely necessary... Make I report you to sango first, I dey come

Mastakillah wey dey fear to enter plane.

Better change your moniker to something you stand for and can defend. Mastakillah ko. Assassin ni

bishopjoe02:



Your number 3, might be wrong, they just said the chopper don't have that capacity

The operator was involved in providing lifting operations specifically targeting oil industry

Most rig operators will demand that the choppers they contract should have this capacity to dump fuel in the event of both making an emergency landing or when the weight specification of landing platform has been exceeded by the total load on board.

Same thing applies for most naval platform landings at sea.

And yes, some aircrafts do come or can be modified to dump fuel.

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

Mr man how many time will they tell you the heli can't dump fuel, what kind of cement head are you?

Coolcalmcollect:

Mr man how many time will they tell you the heli can't dump fuel, what kind of cement head are you?

See my response

ShinnBet:


The operator was involved in providing lifting operations specifically targeting oil industry

Most rig operators will demand that the choppers they contract should have this capacity to dump fuel in the event of both making an emergency landing or when the weight specification of landing platform has been exceeded by the total load on board.

Same thing applies for most naval platform landings at sea.

And yes, some aircrafts do come or can be modified to dump fuel.

Only In Nigeria......

ShinnBet:

See my response

ehn was there any report of fuel rain or dumped fuel tank in the area?

What do you expect in a corrupt nation like ours ,where leaders are full deceits and hypocrisy

Coolcalmcollect:

ehn was there any report of fuel rain or dumped fuel tank in the area?

At 5,000ft cruising at over 150mph , the fuel will be dispersed in the atmosphere and will not even reach the ground .

Think.

ShinnBet:


At 5,000ft cruising at over 150mph , the fuel will be dispersed in the atmosphere and will not even reach the ground .

Think.

Kindly stop peddling falsehood. A Helicopter doesn't have the mechanism for dumping fuel.

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

Did u read tru the report from AIB, the crashed helicopter has no capacity for jetisomming, meaning it's not capable of dumping fuel mid flight and yet it's tank was empty at the crash sight. Meaning it must have ran out of fuel.

And for those speaking about fuel dumping, there are a few things to be understood.

Helicopters are relatively low flying aircraft optimised for operations in terrain that does not afford space or ground conditions fixed wing aircraft require to take off and land safely. Meaning small airfields, rugged mountainous or soft-swampy land or urban area ocated helipads.

When fuel is dumped is comes out of the aircraft through a pitot under pump pressure as a fine mist observed on ground as a contrail if two conditions are fulfilled. One, the aircraft is moving FAST enough to aerosol the fuel and two, the aircraft is flying HIGH enough for atmospheric pressure to suspend the aerosol long enough for it to be dispersed before gravity takes over (the reason why clouds are up there and not down at our feet). A helicopter traditionally does not do both relatively well.

Thirdly and most importantly as in this case, there are strict regulations as to where an aircraft CAN DUMP FUEL. In most countries it is strictly forbidden over populated areas for obvious reasons so an aircraft coming into Lagos (a sprawling metropolis) will have to fly out or fly by to the Atlantic to do that, further complicating any emergency.

The vast majority of helicopters operating around the world do so in predominantly urban settings so making fuel dumping a staple is just irrelevant. That is why today it is only military helicopters that do so and only for specific operational reasons in their designated military set ups.

Hypothetically speaking, if that Bell chopper had dumped fuel flying at such a low altitude and slow speed coming into MMA, several fires will have erupted along the trail perhaspos causing a lot more devastation. Hypothetically speaking as well, if the pilot had noticed any malfunction he should have just found the nearest spot to land immediately. A land no matter where is always better than a crash.

For any pilots reading this. Put your aircraft down immediately. Life is better than a bad name or earning a bad rap.

Suicide mission

This is what you get when society focus more on Connection rather than Intelligence .

We are just getting started.

Nepotism has killed this country.

Shame!!

sugah:

Kindly stop peddling falsehood. A Helicopter doesn't have the mechanism for dumping fuel.

Wrong.

Helicopters do have and it is becoming a standard by some national civial aviation regulators

ShinnBet:


Wrong.

Helicopters do have and it is becoming a standard by some national civial aviation regulators

Lies. They are not designed to jettison fuel. And civil aviation has nothing to do with an aircraft mechanism

Gwagone:
It is normal as we see lots of vehicles without license too in the country

Abi o, my brother

sugah:

Lies. They are not designed to jettison fuel. And civil aviation has nothing to do with an aircraft mechanism

Well, I have told you that most rig operators demand this specification from their contracting aviation company because of the obvious hazard risk and load specification requirements in landing on their platforms

whytediamond:




Mastakillah wey dey fear to enter plane.

Better change your moniker to something you stand for and can defend. Mastakillah ko. Assassin ni

helicopter not plane biko

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

You guys and ignorance, I dont know.
Given the dead man some credit may not be a bad idea though, but for what he does not have capacity to do, I think it is unnecessary and might be misleading in future.

It has been stated time over that the helicopter does not have any means of dumping fuel. You can read about it yourself online.

This is not first time fuel finished mid flight even outside Nigeria.

You guys should analyze objectively.

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

Disqualify us, we are your Erica

ShinnBet:


Don't mind these idiots.

The black box was removed from the crash site by the operators.

This is not the first time that has happened.

The pilot I suspect must have dumped his fuel in anticipation of a crash in an urban area. No pilot will fly with inadequate fuel and if it so happens to be so, would have made an emergency landing in an open area.

Thirdly, the AIB coming out with this statement of the pilot not having a valid liscence is following the earlier NCAA's very unprofessional utterance long before AIB came out with their prelimunary report, that the helicopter in question was not approved for flight operations by them.

Then how come an aircraft that was not approved for operations was being operated within Nigerian airspace by an unqualified Pilot?

These NCAA idiots don't know they are even indicting themselves for failing to do their job.

This is not the first time the useless NCAA has been in the eye of the storm. This same NCAA came out to tell us that the black box for Bellview Airliner that mysteriously crashed somewhere around Ibadan airspace in 2005 was stolen from their office in Lagos.

I have met and interacted with several of these NCAA badged agents and I can tell you 90% of them have no businesss working in aviation talk more of being regulators.

As for AIB, does ones do not have a single clue.

My opinion of the timeline of events is as follows:.

1. Pilot notices a major fault

2. Pilot contacts Ikeja ATC notifying them of an emergency

3. Pilot dumps fuel in anticipation of a forced landing in an urban area

4. Pilot must have lost engine power or rudder control or both

5. Chopper can't be controlled by pilot and goes into a spin (highlighting loss od rudder control)

6. Chopper crashes

7. Onlookers swarm the site

8. Police do nothing to secure the crash site.

9. Airline representatives visit site and ecuavate black box

10. AIB cones in and as clueless as they are come out with their useless conclusion

P S.

Worked as an Avionics Engineer with the USMC for 5yrs.

Well done fellow. �