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GeneralDae:
But the bible says jesus main message was: The kingdom of God.
Jesus always talked about the kingdom of God and he being the son of man. That was the emphasis of jesus in the new testament.
As you said, prophets in time past already taught us to worship God, pray, and give charity but jesus came to teach the world about the kingdom of God specifically, if you read the bible where you can learn about jesus teachings in detail. The kingdom of God simply means God himself ruling us, and administering true justice.

My Dear brother.

1. The creator of the Heavens and Earth is One.
2. His message to humanity is consistent: To obtain the kingdom of God is to:

Worship God alone without associating any partner, like Idols, Jesus, Mary etc, and doing and encouraging what is right and avoiding evils.

Allah guides whom He will.

motayoayinde:
WHILE SOLAAT IS MENTIONED IN SEVERAL VERSES OF THE QUR'AN BY NAME (Quran 2: 42 for example),TRINITY WHICH IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL DOCTRINE OF CHRISTIANDOM AND WITHOUT WHICH MODERN CHRISTIANITY (except a few brands), WILL HAVE NO BASIS, ENJOYS NOT A SINGLE MENTION IN THE ENTIRE VOLUME OF THE BIBLE.

Show us where it is written in Quran that PRAY FIVE TIMES A DAY

motayoayinde:
ALLAH/YAHWEH IS THE REASON FOR THE REVELATION OF THE QUR'AN AND THE TORAH. THE NAMES ARE MENTIONED THOUSANDS OF TIMES IN THE TWO BOOKS.

allah is now Yahweh right? Continue.. Very soon you'll call allah as Jehovah

motayoayinde:
BUT I'M AMAZED BY THE EFFORT SOME OF YOU PUT INTO FORCING TRINITY DOWN THE THROAT OF THE BIBLE WHEN WE ALL KNOW WHEN, WHERE AND WHY THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY EMANATED.

IT WAS RATIFED BY THE COUNCIL OF NICEA, MODERN DAY TURKEY, IN THE YEAR 325 AD, AFTER A LONG AND TUMULTUOUS BATTLE BETWEEN UNITARIAN CHRISTIANS (who maintained that Jesus was a man and God is One) AND THE TRINITARIAN CHRISTIANS.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT NOT CHASING MUSLIMS FROM THREAD TO THREAD, WITH INSULTS AND NOTHING MORE.

The same way Baby Aishat's Husband in person of Late Messenger Muhammad forced you to be praying FIVE TIMES a day.. I shown you a Chapter and Verse from the Bible maybe you are blind to see it or decided to wave it.. I'm gonna show you again


Matthew 28:19

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father , and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

From the Above Bible verse, you can see The name of FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT isn't it?? If it is the word "TRINITY" that is giving you problem let me know..

Auki:
My Dear brother.

1. The creator of the Heavens and Earth is One.
2. His message to humanity is consistent: To obtain the kingdom of God is to:

Worship God alone without associating any partner, like Idols, Jesus, Mary etc, and doing and encouraging what is right and avoiding evils.

Allah guides whom He will.

But worshipping God alone is a very old message, why would God have to send thousands of prophets to earth simply because he wants to be the only one worshipped? it makes no sense to me.

motayoayinde:
HE WAS A PROPHET JUST LIKE MANY OTHERS BEFORE HIM, SENT TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS AND UPHOLD THE BELIEF IN ONE GOD.

HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN PROPHET.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES HIS MESSAGE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE OF OTHER PROPHETS.

THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY WAS FORMULATED LONG AFTER HIM. THE DOCTRINE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BIBLICAL BOOKS.
JESUS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Jazakallah khairan. May Allah give you with Firdausi

motayoayinde:
HE WAS A PROPHET JUST LIKE MANY OTHERS BEFORE HIM, SENT TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS AND UPHOLD THE BELIEF IN ONE GOD.

HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN PROPHET.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES HIS MESSAGE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE OF OTHER PROPHETS.



THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY WAS FORMULATED LONG AFTER HIM. THE DOCTRINE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BIBLICAL BOOKS.
JESUS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Muhammad that was your prophet, can you show his PROPHECY he prophecied while alive?

What is your headache, is it because Jesus Christ is God? But quran says Jesus Christ is Messiah.. Only God can SAVE are you aware of that? Or you don't know the meaning of Messiah again..

Messiah even according to Arabic dictionary means SAVIOUR and An anointed

Auki:
Jazakallah khairan. May Allah give you with Firdausi

AMIN AND YOU TOO BRO.

haekymbahd:
So to you the Jews and Christians are worshipping the same God that is false...

The Jews are worshipping one God with no son similar to muslims..

While the trinitarian Christians are worshipping a God with a son(Jesus) who is also God. And they claim they worship one God.

Allah SWT said:


"And if only they upheld [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have consumed [provision] from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a moderate community, but many of them - evil is that which they do."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 66)

I believe Allah is the same God of Jews and Christians it was their disobedience that let to different God. By making Jesus Co equal with God (Allah).

Allah SWT said:


"They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth? And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 17)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


Allah SWT said:


"And from those who say, We are Christians We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 14)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Summary:

(1) Quran says the god Muhammad worshipped was not the same as the God of the Jews and Christians (Quran 109:1-6). Do you know better than Allah and Muhammad? Your points do not hold water.

(2) The Quran is not straightforward and it is inconsistent. All the accusations you levelled against the Christians from the Quran contradict another quranic verses that says "Those who believe (in the
Qur'an), those who follow the
Jewish (scriptures), and the
Sabians and the Christians, - any
who believe in Allah and the
Last Day, and work
righteousness,- on them shall
be no fear, nor shall they
grieve.
(Qur'an 5:69).

According to that verse, the Jews and Christians are in order, why the condemnations again?

This is another verse that supports the one above:
Verily! Those who believe and
those who are Jews and
Christians, and Sabians ,
whoever believes in Allah and
the Last Day and do righteous
good deeds shall have their
reward with their Lord, on
them shall be no fear, nor shall
they grieve.
Qur'an 2:62

Why is Quran speaking from both sides of the mouth? It would approve something today and condemns same tomorrow. That is not the character of the true God.
You need to reconsider your belief in the Quran my friend.

truthmans2012:
Summary:

(1) Quran says the god Muhammad worshipped was not the same as the God of the Jews and Christians (Quran 109:1-6). Do you know better than Allah and Muhammad? Your points do not hold water.

(2) The Quran is not straightforward and it is inconsistent. All the accusations you levelled against the Christians from the Quran contradict another quranic verses that says "Those who believe (in the
Qur'an), those who follow the
Jewish (scriptures), and the
Sabians and the Christians, - any
who believe in Allah and the
Last Day, and work
righteousness,- on them shall
be no fear, nor shall they
grieve.
(Qur'an 5:69).

According to that verse, the Jews and Christians are in order, why the condemnations again?

This is another verse that supports the one above:
Verily! Those who believe and
those who are Jews and
Christians, and Sabians ,
whoever believes in Allah and
the Last Day and do righteous
good deeds shall have their
reward with their Lord, on
them shall be no fear, nor shall
they grieve.
Qur'an 2:62

Why is Quran speaking from both sides of the mouth? It would approve something today and condemns same tomorrow. That is not the character of the true God.
You need to reconsider your belief in the Quran my friend.

The message of the Quran is simple whatever religion you are in if you believe in One God and adhere to the laws of God those are the people Allah guides.

The issue Allah had with Christians is because they associated partners with him by making Jesus coequal with him and called him God.

Hope you know not all Christians are trinitarians in fact the early Christians were not trinitarians. Trinity was invented later and Jesus was made God when they knew he was sent by God.

Allah SWT said:

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary while the Messiah has said, O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 72)


"They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the third of three. And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 73)

"Say, O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 77)

"Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 78)


"It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, Be servants to me rather than Allah, but [instead, he would say], Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 79)

"Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as lords. Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims?"
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 80)

"Say, We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 84)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-

If Christians believe in one God Jesus would not have been their God.

ANTIlSLAM:
What they are telling you is that your god allah is not the same Yahweh Jewish worshipped

A jew can pray in a mosque, but not in a church.. Do you know why?..

Because they consider Christianity an idolatry...

Christianity is just rebranded paganism, I wonder why God will have anything to do with it?..
His commandments are clear "Do not have any other God before me".. Meaning no intermediary or mediator.. And do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them.. But the Romans has blinded the peoples eyes by creating a human son for God.. And forced humans to worship him.. They are looking for the light, without realizing that they can be blinded by the light..

Flee from idolatry. And the wrath of God..

sonmvayina:
A jew can pray in a mosque, but not in a church.. Do you know why?..

Because they consider Christianity an idolatry...

You are the one asking yourself question still answering at the same time.. So Jewish that prayed in Mosque were calling on the name of allah right? Very soon you'll say Jewish do go to Mecca to perform sacrificial act by worshipping, bowing, cycling the stone Muhammad established for you called KAABA

ANTIlSLAM:
You are the one asking yourself question still answering at the same time.. So Jewish that prayed in Mosque were calling on the name of allah right? Very soon you'll say Jewish do go to Mecca to perform sacrificial act by worshipping, bowing, cycling the stone Muhammad established for you called KAABA

I said praying.. Both Islam and Judaism recognize that God is one.. One lord..

But Christianity has 3 Gods fused into 1..the concept is both alien to Islam and Judaism.

When God promised to send the jews a Messiah, he never said they must give their lives to him or pretend to drink his blood or eat his flesh.. Does are paganistic rituals that God detest..

ANTIlSLAM:
You are the one asking yourself question still answering at the same time.. So Jewish that prayed in Mosque were calling on the name of allah right? Very soon you'll say Jewish do go to Mecca to perform sacrificial act by worshipping, bowing, cycling the stone Muhammad established for you called KAABA

Allah will punish only the disobedient ones who didn't follow the law given to them among the Jew and Christians and Muslims not all. Even Jesus was sent to lost sheep of Israel and not all.

Allah SWT said:

"Among the Jews [/b]are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, We hear and disobey and Hear but be not heard and Ra'ina, twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], We hear and obey and Wait for us [to understand], it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, [b]except for a few."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 46)


"O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you, before We obliterate faces and turn them toward their backs or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers. And ever is the decree of Allah accomplished."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 47)


"Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 48)

"And if only they upheld [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have consumed [provision] from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a moderate community, but many of them - evil is that which they do."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 66)



* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

haekymbahd:
The message of the Quran is simple whatever religion you are in if you believe in One God and adhere to the laws of God those are the people Allah guides.

The issue Allah had with Christians is because they associated partners with him by making Jesus coequal with him and called him God.

Hope you know not all Christians are trinitarians in fact the early Christians were not trinitarians. Trinity was invented later and Jesus was made God when they knew he was sent by God.

Allah SWT said:

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary while the Messiah has said, O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 72)


"They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the third of three. And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 73)

"Say, O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 77)

"Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 78)


"It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, Be servants to me rather than Allah, but [instead, he would say], Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 79)

"Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as lords. Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims?"
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 80)

"Say, We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 84)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-

If Christians believe in one God Jesus would not have been their God.

Anyone who does not believe in Father, Son and Holy Ghost(Trinity), such a person is not a Christian. In fact, the Quran says Christians call Jesus Son of God.


Matthew 28:19

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father , and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

Do you see Father, Son and the Holy Ghost there? That was a statement made by Jesus himself, not invented by anyone else.

Mat. 17:5
While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”

When Jesus was baptized and was coming out of the river, God spoke from heaven and made a declaration to the people present in that place that Jesus is His Son. This statement was made when Jesus was alive in the body. Was that also an invention after him?

Before Jesus was born, a prophecy came concerning him about 200 years before his birth:

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

That was a statement before his birth, is that an invention after him?

When Jesus was to be born, the true angel Gabriel came to Mary and said:

"And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)
Is this also an invention after him?

The true angel Gabriel said the child Mary would give birth to would be called the Son of God. It is not human beings who decided that Jesus would be called the Son of God, it was God Himself. No wonder He said " this is my beloved Son."
That statement was made more than 650 years before Muhammad was born. It is not possible for the same angel Gabriel who once said Jesus is the Son of God to come again to tell mankind that God does not beget, neither is he begotten. Whose Gabriel was the one that revealed the Quran to Muhammad, that denied the truth? No wonder when Muhammad came home to Khadija after his first contact with islamic Gabriel, he said he saw an evil spirit.

May God have mercy on muslims.

truthmans2012:
Anyone who does not believe in Father, Son and Holy Ghost(Trinity), such a person is not a Christian. In fact, the Quran says Christians call Jesus Son of God.


Matthew 28:19

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father , and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

Do you see Father, Son and the Holy Ghost there? That was a statement made by Jesus himself, not invented by anyone else.

Mat. 17:5
While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”

When Jesus was baptized and was coming out of the river, God spoke from heaven and made a declaration to the people present in that place that Jesus is His Son. This statement was made when Jesus was alive in the body. Was that also an invention after him?

Before Jesus was born, a prophecy came concerning him about 200 years before his birth:

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

That was a statement before his birth, is that an invention after him?

When Jesus was to be born, the true angel Gabriel came to Mary and said:

"And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)
Is this also an invention after him?

The true angel Gabriel said the child Mary would give birth to would be called the Son of God. It is not human beings who decided that Jesus would be called the Son of God, it was God Himself. No wonder He said " this is my beloved Son."
That statement was made more than 650 years before Muhammad was born. It is not possible for the same angel Gabriel who once said Jesus is the Son of God to come again to tell mankind that God does not beget, neither is he begotten. Whose Gabriel was the one that revealed the Quran to Muhammad, that denied the truth? No wonder when Muhammad came home to Khadija after his first contact with islamic Gabriel, he said he saw he an evil spirit.

May God have mercy on muslims.

Isaiah 42
5 Thus says God the Lord--He Who created the heavens and stretched them forth, He Who spread abroad the earth and that which comes out of it, He Who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it:

6 I the Lord have called You [the Messiah] for a righteous purpose and in righteousness; I will take You by the hand and will keep You; I will give You for a covenant to the people [Israel], for a light to the nations [Gentiles],

7 To open the eyes of the blind, to bring out prisoners from the dungeon, and those who sit in darkness from the prison.(D)

8 I am the Lord; that is My name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images.


May God have mercy on Christians

haekymbahd:
Isaiah 42
5 Thus says God the Lord--He Who created the heavens and stretched them forth, He Who spread abroad the earth and that which comes out of it, He Who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it:

6 I the Lord have called You [the Messiah] for a righteous purpose and in righteousness; I will take You by the hand and will keep You; I will give You for a covenant to the people [Israel], for a light to the nations [Gentiles],

7 To open the eyes of the blind, to bring out prisoners from the dungeon, and those who sit in darkness from the prison.(D)

8 I am the Lord; that is My name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images.


May God have mercy on Christians

What is the meaning of this?

truthmans2012:
What is the meaning of this?

Please explain this verse

Mathew 19

17And He said to him, Why do you ask Me about the perfectly and essentially good? There is only One Who is good [perfectly and essentially]--God. If you would enter into the Life, you must continually keep the commandments

Does Jesus himself think he is God?
How will you call one who is not perfect God.
If Jesus himself said he is not God why are you forcing it on him. There is only one not 2 or 3 God don't you get.

haekymbahd:
Please explain this verse

Mathew 19

17And He said to him, Why do you ask Me about the perfectly and essentially good? There is only One Who is good [perfectly and essentially]--God. If you would enter into the Life, you must continually keep the commandments

Does Jesus himself think he is God?
How will you call one who is not perfect God.
If Jesus himself said he is not God why are you forcing it on him. There is only one not 2 or 3 God don't you get.

It was a language of humility.

John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?

Jesus called himself the Son of God, can you see it?

Jesus said I and my Father are one (John 10:30). What does this mean to you?

haekymbahd:
Allah will punish only the disobedient ones who didn't follow the law given to them among the Jew and Christians and Muslims not all. Even Jesus was sent to lost sheep of Israel and not all.

You said allah will punish disobedient ones, I love that.. Are you now saying allah will PUNISH MUHAMMAD FOR DISOBEYING his god commandment? allah said you Muslim slaves men should marry MAXIMUM OF FOUR WIVES, Muhammad married over TEN WIVES. Is Muhammad not a disobedient messenger and slave of allah??

Secondly you said Jesus Christ was sent to lost sheep of Israelite, that is to say Muhammad was SENT TO THE LOST GOAT OF ARABIA because throughout his life time Muhammad only fight jihad from Medina to Mecca all in Saudi Arabia..

Now let's examine what allah said about Jesus:

AYAH al-Imran 3:45

(And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).

From the bolded parts, are you saying allah made a mistake for mentioning Illustrious in the World and Heaven? If Jesus Christ was sent to Israelite why couldn't allah said Illustrious In Israel? Is ur god allah a fool?

sonmvayina:
I said praying.. Both Islam and Judaism recognize that God is one.. One lord..

But Christianity has 3 Gods fused into 1..the concept is both alien to Islam and Judaism.

When God promised to send the jews a Messiah, he never said they must give their lives to him or pretend to drink his blood or eat his flesh.. Does are paganistic rituals that God detest..

You even said 3 Gods, who is your English Teacher? maybe you'll show us where 3 Gods is written in the Bible..

Are you aware that there is Diff between God and gods?

Now back to the matter, allah ur god used plural words like WE, US, OUR, etc to refer to itself, himself or herself.. The question is HOW MANY IS allah FOR USING We, Us, Our, etc? Can u answer this

ANTIlSLAM:
You even said 3 Gods, who is your English Teacher? maybe you'll show us where 3 Gods is written in the Bible..

Are you aware that there is Diff between God and gods?

Now back to the matter, allah ur god used plural words like WE, US, OUR, etc to refer to itself, himself or herself.. The question is HOW MANY IS allah FOR USING We, Us, Our, etc? Can u answer this

I am not a Muslim, I am not a Christian.. I was only pointing out the similarities in beliefs.. I have my igbo omenani.. That is OK for me..

sonmvayina:
I am not a Muslim, I am not a Christian.. I was only pointing out the similarities in beliefs.. I have my igbo omenani.. That is OK for me..

When it's time to show me where 3 Gods is mentioned in Bible, it is then you are not a Muslim or A Christian but your skull didn't tell you that Christians are SERVING ONE GOD and Not 3 Gods. You must be A M0ron then if you're not an atheist, Muslim or Christian

ANTIlSLAM:
When it's time to show me where 3 Gods is mentioned in Bible, it is then you are not a Muslim or A Christian but your skull didn't tell you that Christians are SERVING ONE GOD and Not 3 Gods. You must be A M0ron then if you're not an atheist, Muslim or Christian

It only shows how shallow you are when you decide to tow the insult route..you know deep inside you Christians divided God into three parts. For what purpose,,no one knows..

Please go and learn about the creator..he is but one lord.Deuteronomy 6:4

sonmvayina:
It only shows how shallow you are when you decide to tow the insult route..you know deep inside you Christians divided God into three parts. For what purpose,,no one knows..

Please go and learn about the creator..he is but one lord.Deuteronomy 6:4

So you see One Lord in Deuteronomy Why not showing us Three Gods as you claimed..

Had it been you're a Muslim I would have knw how to treat your case with Quran. If TRINITY is what that's giving you too problem, tell.. I have addressed many people like you here on this matter

ANTIlSLAM:
So you see One Lord in Deuteronomy Why not showing us Three Gods as you claimed..

Had it been you're a Muslim I would have knw how to treat your case with Quran. If TRINITY is what that's giving you too problem, tell.. I have addressed many people like you here on this matter

So what's your take on the trinity ?do you subscribe to it or not?

sonmvayina:
So what's your take on the trinity ?do you subscribe to it or not?

Trinity is established in the Bible by Jesus himself, anyone who doesn't believe in it is not a follower of Jesus Christ.


Matthew 28:19

Jesus said: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER , and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST.

sonmvayina:
So what's your take on the trinity ?do you subscribe to it or not?

I know this question is not directed to me but trinity as a doctrine was invented 200-300 years after the church began.
The bible speaks of jesus as the word of God who became flesh, but I simply interpret this to mean that the spirit of God was revealed fully in the person of jesus. Jesus nevertheless is a man carrying God to us. I believe my interpretation does not conflict with any part of the new testament.

truthmans2012:
Trinity is established in the Bible by Jesus himself, anyone who doesn't believe in it is not a follower of Jesus Christ.


Matthew 28:19

Jesus said: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER , and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST.

Then how come in the book of Acts, the apostles only baptized in the name of jesus only?

GeneralDae:
I know this question is not directed to me but trinity as a doctrine was invented 200-300 years after the church began.
The bible speaks of jesus as the word of God who became flesh, but I simply interpret this to mean that the spirit of God was revealed fully in the person of jesus. Jesus nevertheless is a man carrying God to us. I believe my interpretation does not conflict with any part of the new testament.

You have told a lie.

It was Jesus himself who established Trinity, when he said :

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER , and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST (Matthew 28:19).

Still waiting for ANTIISLAM..

sonmvayina:
So what's your take on the trinity ?do you subscribe to it or not?

You never answer the question, Is Trinity giving you problem?

haekymbahd when are you going to do justice to my question? Are you saying allah will punish Muhammad for disobeying your god, allah?