MuttleyLaff:

What kind of wack theology, is this?
Imagine calling God, a puppet master, lmso. Smh. Sigh.

Wack theology? LOL... Yes, God is the Puppet Master... He controls it all! Everything.

Kobojunkie:
Wack theology? LOL... Yes, God is the Puppet Master... He controls it all! Everything.

Listen brother friend, God is, self assured, very much in control of the Universe and everything within it, but He is not a puppet master, as He didnt create you, expected to be in the image and likeness of the Godhead, a puppet. That kind of theology, your perception of God in this kind of light is bad and tacky, hence why I said your theology is wack. It is nothing to LOL about, but for you, to bury your head in shame for your mediocrity and for your nothing to write home about knowledge or understanding of God. Smh. Sigh.

MuttleyLaff:
Listen brother friend, God is, self assured, very much in control of Universe and everything within it, but He is not a puppet master, as He didnt create you expected to be in the image and likeness of the Godhead, a puppet. That kind of theology, that kind of perception of God is bad and tacky, hence why I said your theology is wack. It is nothing to LOL about, but to bury your head in shame for your mediocrity and for your nothing to write home about knowledge or understanding of God. Smh. Sigh.

God is the puppet Master. He controls it all .... good... evil. everything. There is no such thing as a battle between good and evil because He controls everything. He moves the pieces as He sees fit.
Even the decisions that men claim to be theirs are ultimately His. He is God and He alone decides what is sin and what is not. Your opinion, and mine, mean nothing as far as these and everything is concerned, because in the end, His Will will be done.

Kobojunkie:
God is the puppet Master. He controls it all .... good... evil. everything. There is no such thing as a battle between good and evil because He controls everything. He moves the pieces as He sees fit.

Here I thought Blabbermouth was bad, but here's you Kobojunkie, competing with him for this infamy status

Kobojunkie:
Even the decisions that men claim to be theirs are ultimately His. He is God and He alone decides what is sin and what is not. Your opinion, and mine, mean nothing as far as these and everything is concerned, because in the end, His Will will be done.

"³So in the course of time, Cain brought some of the fruit of the soil as an offering to the LORD,
⁴while Abel brought the best portions of the firstborn of his flock.
And the LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering,
⁵but He had no regard for Cain and his offering. So Cain became very angry, and his countenance fell.
⁶“Why are you angry,” said the LORD to Cain, “ and why has your countenance fallen?
⁷If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you refuse to do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires you, but you must master it.”
⁸Then Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let us go out to the field.” And while they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and killed him.
⁹And the LORD said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”
“I do not know!” he answered. “Am I my brother’s keeper?”
¹⁰“What have you done?” replied the LORD. “The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground"
- Genesis 4:3-10

Tickle me more, so after reading Genesis 4:3-10 above, you want me to believe that its God who made Cain kill his brother Abel, abi?. That Cain's decision to kill his brother, even after God had earlier warned him about sin crouching at the door, wasn't Cain's but it was God's decision to have Cain kill his brother. That it was God who influenced Cain to kill his brother Abel, hmm?

You my dear brother friend sire, should by now have noticed a gradually increasing Pinnochio style growth of your nose. You are not only known to be truculent, but you've added fibbing, for good measure, to your repertoire. I sorry for you sotay, I pray you repent sha.

MuttleyLaff:
Tickle me more, so after reading Genesis 4:3-10 above, you want me to believe that its God who made Cain kill his brother Abel, abi?. That Cain's decision to kill his brother, even after God had earlier warned him about sin crouching at the door, wasn't Cain's but it was God's decision to have Cain kill his brother. That it was God who influenced Cain to kill his brother Abel, hmm?

How do I begin to explain this one to you?
Sigh! All power belongs to God... even the power that is good and evil all belong to God. God is the one who makes the ultimate decision to allow whatever it is that is to be. So, yes, Cain could not have killed His brother if God did not allow him that decision. He controls it all ... after all He is soverign. Does this help? If you are still mixed up, then it is ok.

Now, if you do not believe God to be All-powerful, All-knowing, All-Seeing... the Soverign one, then that means we just do not believe in the same God and I have no intentions of changing my mind about my God so... yeah!

Kobojunkie:

How do I begin to explain this one to you?
Sigh! All power belongs to God... even the power that is good and evil all belong to God. God is the one who makes the ultimate decision to allow whatever it is that is to be. So, yes, Cain could not have killed His brother if God did not allow him that decision. He controls it all ... after all He is soverign. Does this help? If you are still mixed up, then it is ok.

What's the matter with you?
Did Cain have the power in him, according to God, in Genesis 4:6-7, to know what is right to do and know how to do what is right, hmm? Does it help you at all that God bless every human being with the gift of freewill, so that from exercising this useful, important, valuable and precious gift, they wouldn't have to be a puppet(s), hmm?

God did not put a loaded gun on Cain's head and threatening to pull the trigger, if Cain doesnt go kill his brother Abel. It was Cain from his own volition, who decided, using his faculty of power, will and reasoning, that he wants or needs to have his brother Abel killed. God didnt influence Cain to kill his brother, but rather, He on contrary, advanced warning him of danger lurking ahead. God always warns and informs people in advance of possible danger ahead, if caution is not taken.

Does any of this help you with untangling your confused dot com mixed up reasoning, erhn?

Kobojunkie:
[s]Now, if you do not believe God to be All-powerful, All-knowing, All-Seeing... the Soverign one, then that means we just do not believe in the same God and I have no intentions of changing my mind about my God so... yeah![/s]

Typical going off tangent and on a straw man mining expedition again. Smh sigh.

Kobojunkie:
Good for Michael Glatze, but He ain't Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is the one whose word meanings ALL to those who follow Him.
What Old religious rituals are you referring to? Passover? Year of Jubilee? Jesus partook in them all, so how could He have been speaking exactly of that which He partook of as if it were no more? There are no old or new religious rituals.

There is instead an Old Covenant, and a New Covenant, and that is what Jesus Christ made clear to His disciples that did not need to be mixed. Old Wine refers to the Old covenant, in which even Jesus Christ Himself lived in order to fulfill the requirements of the Law on behalf of those who would choose to follow Him, Jesus Christ. And then there is the New Covenant, also known as the New wine, which Jesus Christ embodied and taught His disciples to obey. The New Covenant comes complete with it's own separate agreement( complete with its own yoke, blessings, curses, promises, burden etc.) separate from the Old Covenant(which also has its own yoke, blessings, curses, promises, burden etc.). Hence the reason why Jesus Christ warned that they should not be mixed together.

As for rituals, the only thing close to a ritual of sorts that Jesus Christ gave us with His New Covenant was the eating of communion, and nothing else. And even then, it was during the celebration of Jewish Passover that Jesus Christ introduced that to His disciples. Basically, sort of combining the two (Passover and Communion) into one. That is not a separation of old and new rituals... see?

What's your point? That homosexuality is good? All these lengthy replies seem to becloud the topic.

jmoore:
What's your point? That homosexuality is good? All these lengthy replies seem to becloud the topic.

Jesus Christ, the one who we are to emulate, came to save and not to condemn even the homosexuals among us!

jmoore:
What's your point? That homosexuality is good?.

Are all heterosexuality good?

jmoore:
... All these lengthy replies seem to becloud the topic.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the one who we are to emulate, came to save and not to condemn!

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Confusion beclouds the topic

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the one who we are to emulate, came to save and not to condemn even the homosexuals among us!

That means Christians should stop studying to become lawyers?


We should not 'judge'.

Let's fold our hands even when rapists and terrorists are on rampage?

OK!!

jmoore:
That means Christians should stop studying to become lawyers?
We should not 'judge'.Let's fold our hands even when rapists and terrorists are on rampage?
OK!!

I am sorry but maybe it was wrong of me to operate under the assumption that we all understand what it means to have been condemned long before Jesus Christ showed up to offer salvation to those who will seek it.

From Adam, we had all been condemned to die(perish). We were all slated to die and be returned to dust at the end(no eternal nothing in the package for any of us). When Jesus Christ showed up, He did it to save those who were already condemned to die for their sins. Basically, He did not come to keep us from being condemned... we were already condemned from after the fall of Adam. He came to offer us a different path, if we will choose it.

So, a sinner who continues to live in sin(as defined by God) has been condemned from the beginning and you taking it upon yourself to re-condemn such a one, does not help anyone because the sentence was set in our DNA from the beginning. It does not help you either since you would be going against the very nature of Jesus Christ when you attempt such. We are meant to take on the nature of Jesus Christ, not take it now upon ourselves to lampoon those who are sinners and already condemned for their sins to die even before Jesus Christ showed up to the scene.

Becoming a Lawyer or judge, as defined by the world's system, had nothing to do with this at all. The justice system is laid out to punish sin, not as defined by God, but by society. So it is besides the point to suggest a follower of Jesus Christ cannot then be a judge in the world of men.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but maybe it was wrong of me to operate under the assumption that we all understand what it means to have been condemned long before Jesus Christ showed up to offer salvation to those who will seek it.

From Adam, we had all been condemned to die(perish). We were all slated to die and be returned to dust at the end(no eternal nothing in the package for any of us). When Jesus Christ showed up, He did it to save those who were already condemned to die for their sins. Basically, He did not come to keep us from being condemned... we were already condemned from after the fall of Adam. He came to offer us a different path, if we will choose it.

So, a sinner who continues to live in sin(as defined by God) has been condemned from the beginning and you taking it upon yourself to re-condemn such a one, does not help anyone because the sentence was set in our DNA from the beginning. It does not help you either since you would be going against the very nature of Jesus Christ when you attempt such. We are meant to take on the nature of Jesus Christ, not take it now upon ourselves to lampoon those who are sinners and already condemned for their sins to die even before Jesus Christ showed up to the scene.

Becoming a Lawyer or judge, as defined by the world's system, had nothing to do with this at all. The justice system is laid out to punish sin, not as defined by God, but by society. So it is besides the point to suggest a follower of Jesus Christ cannot then be a judge in the world of men.

So we should shutup and allow rapists and terrorists go on rampage?

MuttleyLaff:
Here I thought Blabbermouth was bad, but here's you Kobojunkie, competing with him for this infamy status.

The guy is caliing us puppets, yet he was on another thread talking about how one can choose to be obedient. The "junkie" in his moniker says a lot.

jmoore:
So we should shutup and allow rapists and terrorists go on rampage?

Wait a second ... is it the job of followers of Jesus Christ to keep rapists and terrorists in check? Did I miss Jesus Christ commanding that we make sure all those who are sinners are kept in check.... where did I miss this one?

Kobojunkie:
Wait a second ... is it the job of followers of Jesus Christ to keep rapists and terrorists in check? Did I miss Jesus Christ commanding that we make sure all those who are sinners are kept in check.... where did I miss this one?

So if terrorists attack your family, you will be repeating these stuff?

jmoore:
What's your point? That homosexuality is good? All these lengthy replies seem to becloud the topic.

I'll re-ask you this question again you've refused to respond to, lmso. Are all heterosexuality good?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the one who we are to emulate, came to save and not to condemn even the homosexuals among us!

Are promiscuous homosexuals exempted from being frowned upon and given your "not to condemn" free pass, hmm, lmso?

jmoore:
That means Christians should stop studying to become lawyers?

We should not 'judge'.

Let's fold our hands even when rapists and terrorists are on rampage?

OK!!

Nowhere has anyone say "We should not 'judge'" Of course, judge, but make sure, you judge rightly, make sure you always do righteous judging/judgment, lmso

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but maybe it was wrong of me to operate under the assumption that we all understand what it means to have been condemned long before Jesus Christ showed up to offer salvation to those who will seek it.

From Adam, we had all been condemned to die(perish). We were all slated to die and be returned to dust at the end(no eternal nothing in the package for any of us). When Jesus Christ showed up, He did it to save those who were already condemned to die for their sins. Basically, He did not come to keep us from being condemned... we were already condemned from after the fall of Adam. He came to offer us a different path, if we will choose it.

So, a sinner who continues to live in sin (as defined by God) has been condemned from the beginning and you taking it upon yourself to re-condemn such a one, does not help anyone because the sentence was set in our DNA from the beginning. It does not help you either since you would be going against the very nature of Jesus Christ when you attempt such. We are meant to take on the nature of Jesus Christ, not take it now upon ourselves to lampoon those who are sinners and already condemned for their sins to die even before Jesus Christ showed up to the scene.

Becoming a Lawyer or judge, as defined by the world's system, had nothing to do with this at all. The justice system is laid out to punish sin, not as defined by God, but by society. So it is besides the point to suggest a follower of Jesus Christ cannot then be a judge in the world of men.

Smh. What a stackful load of confused dot com codswallop.

Y'all, Messers Kobojunkie, jmoore, 1StopRudeness, crackhaus, Mystery9 and even ggirl4real and mariahAngel particularly, when the question was asked, havent been able to pinpoint what specifically is the sin, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour.

jmoore:
So we should shutup and allow rapists and terrorists go on rampage?

Since you've decided to lump, rapists and terorists going on rampage into the discourse on the table, please explain how, when or where two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour are on rampage, been on rampage or even ever gone on rampage.

Kobojunkie:
Wait a second ... is it the job of followers of Jesus Christ to keep rapists and terrorists in check?

Absolutely yes, it behooves a follower of Jesus Christ to keep rapists and terrorists in check, now the question is, what specifically in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, does a follower of Jesus Christ exactly want to check, hmm?

Kobojunkie:
Did I miss Jesus Christ commanding that we make sure all those who are sinners are kept in check.... where did I miss this one?

"³⁴A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you also must love one another.
³⁵By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.”"
- John 13:34-35

What exactly is it, that needs being kept in check concerning two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, hmm?

jmoore:
So if terrorists attack your family, you will be repeating these stuff?

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, are not going to attack your family.

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, are not threatening, terrifying, scaring/frightening your family or anyone's else family for that matter

You can repeat this comment about, two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, and it won't stop you from sleeping soundly and peacefully, as if like a baby after a night soothing bath and with both eyes tightly close at night

jmoore:
So if terrorists attack your family, you will be repeating these stuff?

I have to admit that you have me at a loss here... I don't exactly know how to respect to your question above.

Since I am neither a cop nor a lawyer, what would you expect me to do in the case of a terrorist attack on my family then?

Just an aside, you have likely read, several times, the conversation that took place between Jesus Christ and the thief on the cross. Now, Jesus Christ was probably not one of the victims of the crimes that earned the thief a place on the hanging block, but I bet there were some really angry people somewhere in the crowd that day who came to see the thief die, and maybe hoped he would end up in Hades to experience torment of the worst kind for as long as was allowed.
So what do you think of what Jesus Christ granted him, the thief instead? I refer to Jesus Christ ushering the thief into paradise after all was said and done? Do you think that was a wicked move by Jesus Christ?

jmoore:
So if terrorists attack your family, you will be repeating these stuff?

Kobojunkiee:
I have to admit that you have me at a loss here...

Yup, you got that right, you're lost at sea, lmso.

Kobojunkiee:
I don't exactly know how to respect to your question above.

You can easily and in a simple way respond to the question, by just being honest, sincere and truthful, lmso, instead of faffing about with keeping on bringing in unrelated, unconnected and irrelevant intros

Kobojunkiee:
Since I am neither a cop nor a lawyer, what would you expect me to do in the case of a terrorist attack on my family then?

Here we go again. Smh sigh.

Kobojunkiee:
Just an aside, you have likely read, several times, the conversation that took place between Jesus Christ and the thief on the cross. Now, Jesus Christ was probably not one of the victims of the crimes that earned the thief a place on the hanging block, but I bet there were some really angry people somewhere in the crowd that day who came to see the thief die, and maybe hoped he would end up in Hades to experience torment of the worst kind for as long as was allowed.

So what do you think of what Jesus Christ granted him, the thief instead? I refer to Jesus Christ ushering the thief into paradise after all was said and done? Do you think that was a wicked move by Jesus Christ?

"³⁹One of the criminals who hung there heaped abuse on Him. “Are You not the Christ?” he said. “Save Yourself and us!”
⁴⁰But the other one rebuked him, saying, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same judgment?
⁴¹We are punished justly, for we are receiving what our actions deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”
⁴²Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!”
⁴³And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”"
- Luke 23:39-43

When will stop all these your appallingly jumping from one unrelated to the topic situation, to another, and not sticking to the topic's discussion and thread's theme, face on, but instead, if you aren't unanswering questions asked you, you divert or go on a tangent(s) hmm?

Not surprised you getting banned as Kobojunkie, lmso

Anyway, you seem to be the last to know, that the thief/robber/rebel/criminal on the right hand of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, owned up to his chequered "bad boy/badass man" days and on the strength of him, publicly and before men, literally believing in his heart that Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is Lord, and Saviour, then going to the extent of confessing with his mouth, auto earned himself acquiring a VIP pass in to Paradise, lmso. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ has the sovereign power to give access to whoever He wants to grant access into Paradise to (i.e. Exodus 33:19b and/or Romans 9:15)

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is Sovereign, so nobaga, can question why He gave the thief/robber/rebel/criminal on the right hand of Him, a free pass into Paradise

I'll tell you for free, what's just not only wicked but that's twisted as well, on top. It is wicked and twisted, to see with the physical eyes, just only bodies and sexuality, but not see with spiritual eyes, souls and the love, the souls have for each other and by extension every other souls

cc: Acehart. Also I just now, a bit earlier, saw you reading that Politics, Bianca thread, abeggy my guy, go sleep nah, lmso

Kobojunkiee:
I have to admit that you have me at a loss here... I don't exactly know how to respect to your question above.

Since I am neither a cop nor a lawyer, what would you expect me to do in the case of a terrorist attack on my family then?

Just an aside, you have likely read, several times, the conversation that took place between Jesus Christ and the thief on the cross. Now, Jesus Christ was probably not one of the victims of the crimes that earned the thief a place on the hanging block, but I bet there were some really angry people somewhere in the crowd that day who came to see the thief die, and maybe hoped he would end up in Hades to experience torment of the worst kind for as long as was allowed.
So what do you think of what Jesus Christ granted him, the thief instead? I refer to Jesus Christ ushering the thief into paradise after all was said and done? Do you think that was a wicked move by Jesus Christ?

So terrorists who are capable of raping your daughters invades your house and you don't have a clue of what to do?

Anyway, you can follow your own interpretation. Though it is obvious you can't practice your own interpretation.

Two thieves were crucified together with Jesus. You use one thief as example without using the other. That's an example of half truth which is dangerous. The repented thief admitted his own wrong,meaning he condemned his own evil action while the other thief was unapologetic.

Anyone that claims he/she doesn't condemn bad actions in this world is LYING.

There is no need for lengthy discussion on this.

I am done here.

jmoore:
So terrorists who are capable of raping your daughters invades your house and you don't have a clue of what to do?

Again, I don't understand why you bring this up here for. One minute we are discussing sinners and Jesus Christ. I even explained how God's justice is not the same as the world's justice. Next you introduce a scenario about criminals invading my home, and I am wondering why you would do that to begin with.

jmoore:
Anyway, you can follow your own interpretation. Though it is obvious you can't practice your own interpretation.

Interpretation? You mean it is my interpretation that Jesus Christ refused to condemn a woman caught in the act of adultery when He refused to kill her according to old covenant law, and even chose to forgive her her her sins right there and then?

jmoore:
Two thieves were crucified together with Jesus. You use one thief as example without using the other. That's an example of half truth which is dangerous. The repented thief admitted his own wrong,meaning he condemned his own evil action while the other thief was unapologetic.

Oh please ! There is no half-truth presented here. I had my reasons. If I had wanted to know what you thought of the other, I would have included him as well, but I saw no point in doing so since Jesus Christ never condemned the second thief, nor did He, Jesus Christ, respond directly to Him. Didn't see any sense in including Him here?

jmoore:
Anyone that claims he/she doesn't condemn bad actions in this world is LYING.
There is no need for lengthy discussion on this. I am done here.

Anywho, like I noted earlier, it was wrong of me to assume we all understand what it means to "condemn" in this case.
God already condemned all of us as sinners to death, from the very beginning. That was the track we were all on until Jesus Christ came to save us by giving up eternal life (all those who will believe in Him). Those who continue to live in sin remain condemned by God and yes, He alone is the one to punish them, not you or anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ.
As I tried to state earlier, the judgement meted by the world's idea of a justice system is separate from God's Judgment, so to assume that the way I react to a terrorist raping my daughters has some direct/indirect impact on God's judgement is to confuse both in some way.

MuttleyLaff:



cc: Acehart. Also I just now, a bit earlier, saw you reading that Politics, Bianca thread, abeggy my guy, go sleep nah, lmso

I slept early o. I usually do.

tobechi74:
A Christian dad and son conversation on homosexuality
A Christian dad and son conversation on homosexuality

Son: what does the Bible teach about homosexuality and masturbation.

Dad: I do not know and I do not care to know

Son: But you are a Christian

Dad: yes, A Christian who follows the teaching of Jesus. Christ alone and not the Bible.

Son; But Bible contains Jesus teaching

Dad: true. It also contains the teaching of Paul,the teaching of Moses , the teaching of Elijah and many other teaching. As a Christian, I accept the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Son: Ok, Now what did Jesus teach about masturbation and homosexuality.

Dad: Jesus never mentioned any of them literally but he showed us with illaustration how to treat those whose views are different from ours.

Child: How?

Dad: He never condemned the adultrous woman, he visited tax collectors, he dined with sinners. He showered them with love.

Son : does that mean they won’t go to hell?

Dad: would you derive Joy in Watching your loved one in hell?

Son: No I won’t

Dad: good.

Dad: sex is a way of expressing Love. There are different stages of love. The first is love directed to oneself. A child grows up loving himself.Using sexual analogy, the child derives Joy playing with his body, his genital. Jesus said Love thyself.


Son : hmm

Dad: The second is Love of similar specie.The child begins to extend the love to those of closest to him+ family, friend,tribe etc. A boy plays with a boy.A girl plays with a girl. Using sexual analogy, this is homosexual. Christ preached Love your neighbor.


Son : I see

Dad: The third stage of love is where one loves those different from oneself .Jesus said Love your enemy.your enemy is your opponent, opposite,one with a different view. Sexually, one is attracted to the gender different from him.A boy is attracted to a girl and vice-versa.

Son :

Dad: One who hates masturbators and homosexuals and love heterosexual is no different from one who loves others over himself and his peers.Such person is in a third stage of love.


Son : which is the best.

Dad: All of the above.The fourth type. The pansexual. The attraction to all . Self, male, and female. It is universal love. Agape love. Love without condition.
https://tobechispeaks./2020/09/20/a-christian-dad-and-son-conversation-on-homosexuality/

Satanic.

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