Iogobenz:
lol this one think say army na boys brigade.
Army follow command,if the command is to end the protest,they will end it irrespective of infantry sentiments.
Your inexperience is amazing

Like I said

We will see

afroxyz:


Its not your fault. You have food to eat and roof over your head, so you want the world to revolve around you.

Is it the role of the government to provide food for the masses?
See talk oo,the entitlement in this country is alarming.
Was America built by government or Capitalists?
I keep saying socialism is the reason Nigeria is backward today.

lol... You are being sarcastic right? When they return as arm robbers and kidnappers?

Anyway, na beg I de beg, let us all cool temper. SARS has bitten more than they can chew, they just had to go.

OgogoroFreak:
What I think would happen is that we would now have the power to lynch them as they're no longer hiding under government uniforms.

ultron12345:


Another scary thing is the funding for the protests. If funding was just from within the country, I wont be concerned, but I am particularly scared about the funding coming from outside the country (over N35Million now). Even yesterday, the flutterwave account was said to be shut down by the cbn (which later turned out to be false, it was temporarily suspended by the company's chairman due to suspicious activity) and they continued accepting donations by bitcoin and crypto, boasting that they are untraceable and the CBN cannot control these.

It made me think to myself, so this is how foreign actors, enemies, foreign terrorist groups will freely fund movements that can tip this country into turmoil.

I can imagine the joy going on at the Elysee Palace in Paris. France's biggest geopolitical foe is on the brink of chaos. They tried weakening Nigeria by breaking it up during the civil war and failed. They have another opportunity now, to destroy Nigeria finally and be the major uncontested power in West Africa. It's inconceivable that French intelligence will not be looking to take advantage of this situation. They might already be part of those providing funds to keep these protests going.

You see why China will never all social media or cryptourrency that they can't regulate.

Which France? You guys just watch documentaries and swallow everything hook, line and sinker

9jatriot:
Everyone agrees that SARS has to end, no question about that, but they wan use style turn am to something else.

Have you noticed that areas like Ladipo, Balogun Market, VI, and Alaba International market where people make their living do not have people coming out every day? There is a reason why.

The protest is continued by jobless people and we know all those areas you named have hustling people who don't have time for nonsense.
They've got families to feed for crying out loud.

9jatriot:
What do you mean they have not? The hashtag was endsars, it has ended. You brought 5 point demand, it has been adopted.
What else?
Even the US did not succumb to the demands of "Blacklifematters" as the Nigerian government have done.

LIke I said, you guys just want anarchy or perhaps it is just for clout so that you guys can lie to you grand children with pictures that you were the hero of an endsars protest many years ago

You say the 5 point demand has been adopted. Check image below.

Iogobenz:
Is it the role of the government to provide food for the masses?
See talk oo,the entitlement in this country is alarming.
Was America built by government or Capitalists?
I keep saying socialism is the reason Nigeria is backward today.

Be slow to read and understand lest you expose your ignorance which is oozing. I never said govt should provide food. They should create the enabling environment for people to.progress. the capitalism that yiu are talking about only flourished because of the enabling environment provided. US and European countries that are discussing stimulus, tax credits and bailout, what is that? Is that not some form of socialism? Use sense Oga

afroxyz:


So the US and European countries tgat are discussing stimulus, tax credits and bailout, what is that? Use sense Oga

Stimulus is because of covid19,no one will fo that on a normal day.
Besides,we arent as rich as the US,so where do you expect Nigeria to get the money for stimulus from?
Tax credit and bailout is to stimulate industry,you don't even have industries to stimulate in the first place because you are lazy and unproductive and feel the government has to create industries for you to come and work In,wtf!
You are the one that needs to use your sense and get busy to build thr nation of your dreams,else Nigeria will continue to remain a poor country like it or not.

Shey you see why I say you write meaningless epistles. You see that bolded, I know you meant it to be an insult but unknown to you it is actually a big compliment, binary numbers (0 and 1) are the only things computers understand, but look at the vast amount of complex things that those two numbers have been able to achieve.

Stop hiding here, go to political section, this is the link to it https://www.nairaland.com/politics

DexterousOne:



Lmao

Hahahaha

1. I'm not an IPOB sympathiser
Never was
NEVER WILL

Nigerians fate is sealed as one country
It's what I always say, so why would I be an IPOB supporter?
just like many APC minions

Anyone who despise this destructive government is either IPOB or PDP sympathiser

Binary thinking is what your problem is
Just like the rest of your likes

And as for your last paragraph
You are just rambling

Those comments of months past that I made was not to elevate Ghana over nigeria

It was just my personal preference
That I would have rather invested in Ghana than in Nigeria given a certain sum of money

You people should be reading to understand na

afroxyz:


Be slow to read and understand lest you expose your ignorance which is oozing. I never said govt should provide food. They should create the enabling environment for people to.progress. the capitalism that yiu are talking about only flourished because of the enabling environment provided. US and European countries that are discussing stimulus, tax credits and bailout, what is that? Is that not some form of socialism? Use sense Oga

Tax credit and bailout is socialism?Are you serious?
I am sure bank loans too is socialism.

9jatriot:
Shey you see why I say you write meaningless epistles. You see that bolded, I know you meant it to be an insult but unknown to you it is actually a big compliment, binary numbers (0 and 1) are the only things computers understand, but look at the vast amount of complex things that those two numbers have been able to achieve.

Stop hiding here, go to political section, this is the link to it https://www.nairaland.com/politics

I dont even know what to say to this one again

Iogobenz:
Tax credit and bailout is socialism?Are you serious?
I am sure bank loans too is socialism.

You've had your 30 seconds of fame.

afroxyz:


You've had your 30 seconds of fame.

And you've had your 30seconds of schooling.
Rockefeller,Henry Ford,Vanderbilt and co had enabling environment too abi?
Don't go and work,be looking for government that will come and feed you,
Ode.

Iogobenz:
Stimulus is because of covid19,no one will fo that on a normal day.
Besides,we arent as rich as the US,so where do you expect Nigeria to get the money for stimulus from?
Tax credit and bailout is to stimulate industry,you don't even have industries to stimulate in the first place because you are lazy and unproductive and feel the government has to create industries for you to come and work In,wtf!
You are the one that needs to use your sense and get busy to build thr nation of your dreams,else Nigeria will continue to remain a poor country like it or not.

Okay...
Let me give you the benefit of the doubt

If you were the adviser to Buhari
And we are being faced with endsars and all these as they are unfolding

What will you advice him to do?


As for me, I like being pragmatic and realist
I'll advice Buhari among other things
To instruct the IGP to throw some sars officers "under the bus"

This singular action will calm a lot of things down

Making an example out of some will show that the govt is serious

Now, dont get me wrong, the preliminary actions taken by the government has been relatively commendable so far....

However more concrete action need to be taken to really calm this

Resolving matters with ASUU to send these young students back to school ASAP is another deft move to make to pour sand inside this fire....

A simple announcement that we are back on the negotiating table with ASUU over this IPPIS thing and we are at advanced stage would work magic

These protests are a consequence of so many things we cannot ignore
And a smart government knows how to manoeuvre

Only for me to go to Nairaland front page and see the below...

https://www.nairaland.com/6182718/fg-ASUU-resume-negotiations-today

The government is thinking
That's very good

I implore ASUU to be both reasonable and resolute at the same time

As long as there is a compromise

ASUU, please take the deal....

DexterousOne:


Okay...
Let me give you the benefit of the doubt

If you were the adviser to Buhari
And we are being faced with endsars and all these as they are unfolding

What will you advice him to do?


As for me, I like being pragmatic and realist
I'll advice Buhari among other things
To instruct the IGP to throw some sars officers "under the bus"

This singular action will calm a lot of things down

Making an example out of some will show that the govt is serious

Now, dont get me wrong, the preliminary actions taken by the government has been relatively commendable so far....

However more concrete action need to be taken to really calm this

Resolving matters with ASUU to send these young students back to school ASAP is another deft move to make to pour sand inside this fire....

A simple announcement that we are back on the negotiating table with ASUU over this IPPIS thing and we are at advanced stage would work magic

These protests are a consequence of so many things we cannot ignore
And a smart government knows how to manoeuvre

No,I'll send in the commandos to the streets to teach the masses that the government cannot be held to ransom and I mean the whole 9 yards.
Helicopters,tanks,artillery,infantry,etc...
Peace is an illusion,the only thing that is real is fear and consequences,not that everyone wants to be peaceful.
You cant dialogue your way out of everything.

ahiboilandgas:
The protest must have vision and mission,I have been attending several of this protests and found out that there are many underlying issues above just reform Sars.....WAR/civil unrest is not good strategy to achieve anything....youth can now channel this new found energy to vote out this old men that have put the Nation in misery via endless looting ,nepotism ,divide and rule tactics...and alway be there as a pressure group to demand that things are done right ....but in getting new young leaders we should be careful not to produce another dino,yahaya bello and co ....the recently remove NANS is an example using benz x class as official car .....the human resource to drive a new Nigeria is not available until the youth also scrap the mentality of wealth without work ,over night riches,fraud etc .....am amazed somebody called yahoo yahoo a business..

You forgot to mention Desmond Elliot who said prior to Edo state election that he was happy to be a product of godfatherism and a 'slave'.

I've read the arguments against these protests but it seems a lot of people don't know what the youths are up against.

Before you condemn the End Police Brutality protesters, try to pay a visit to the prisons and see the number of innocent persons there. Personally, a Policeman once stopped me on the road and asked me what job I was doing to drive the kind of car I drove. I told him I'm a lawyer who owned my firm. He insisted on going through my phone to show I was clean. It was until I threatened to sue the CP and IGP before he started begging. Imagine what other young professionals face. A few weeks ago, some policemen threatened to slap my uncle who is above 60 years. This is a man who retired at Director-level in the CBN.

2 days ago, a colleague reached out to me that her neighbour was arrested by the Police. There was a Warrant from another state for his arrest, so it seemed okay on the surface. Now, when she got to the Police station, the Policemen told her not to bother getting a lawyer as it won't change anything. According to them, if the family of the guy was willing to play ball, they would arrest a random person on the street and use him to substitute the person in custody. Provided the court has gotten a scapegoat, it won't matter even if it is an innocent person framed and jailed for an offence he knows absolutely nothing about.

I know for a fact that innocent people are raided regularly and taken to the station. If they can't pay heavy sums for their bail, they are framed for armed robbery and beaten into making self-indictive statements. Also, other persons in custody are tortured to identify the innocent persons as members of their gangs.

You sit in Nairaland thinking your chicken change or investments can protect you or you think you're too old to face Sars or Police harassment. I laugh.
20 years from now when you think you're safe. You have invested all your life and sent your kids to live abroad and they are back for the holidays. Your son takes your car to fuel at the gas station or you send him on an errand and these criminals in uniform would profile them. In the course of explaining and arguments, they would be shot dead. You think it is impossible? They would kill your children and absolutely nothing would happen, I guarantee you. How many killer cops have you seen jailed?

I'm not for anarchy and breakdown of law and order but you should know that peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of justice.

Their initial demands have been met,now they coming up with others.
If we keep listening,it means this will never end.

MrMcJay:
I've read the arguments against these protests but it seems a lot of people don't know what the youths are up against.

Before you condemn the End Police Brutality protesters, try to pay a visit to the prisons and see the number of innocent persons there. Personally, a Policeman once stopped me on the road and asked me what job I was doing to drive the kind of car I drove. I told him I'm a lawyer who owned my firm. He insisted on going through my phone to show I was clean. It was until I threatened to sue the CP and IGP before he started begging. Imagine what other young professionals face. A few weeks ago, some policemen threatened to slap my uncle who is above 60 years. This is a man who retired at Director-level in the CBN.

2 days ago, a colleague reached out to me that her neighbour was arrested by the Police. There was a Warrant from another state for his arrest, so it seemed okay on the surface. Now, when she got to the Police station, the Policemen told her not to bother getting a lawyer as it won't change anything. According to them, if the family of the guy was willing to play ball, they would arrest a random person on the street and use him to substitute the person in custody. Provided the court has gotten a scapegoat, it won't matter even if it is an innocent person framed and jailed for an offence he knows absolutely nothing about.

I know for a fact that innocent people are raided regularly and taken to the station. If they can't pay heavy sums for their bail, they are framed for armed robbery and beaten into making self-indictive statements. Also, other persons in custody are tortured to identify the innocent persons as members of their gangs.

You sit in Nairaland thinking your chicken change or investments can protect you or you think you're too old to face Sars or Police harassment. I laugh.
20 years from now when you think you're safe. You have invested all your life and sent your kids to live abroad and they are back for the holidays. Your son takes your car to fuel at the gas station or you send him on an errand and these criminals in uniform would profile them. In the course of explaining and arguments, they would be shot dead. You think it is impossible? They would kill your children and absolutely nothing would happen, I guarantee you. How many killer cops have you seen jailed?

I'm not for anarchy and breakdown of law and order but you should know that peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of justice.

Well said
And succinctly put...

Because we are in the top quintile of Nigeria, some of us think we are immune to these things and that is why some are making insensitive comments about the protests

Like you said
Those FEW millions we think we have is making some feel aloof and comfortable with the status quo

Thankfully though
Things should calm down hopefully by weekend, as it seems the government is making some right decisions

The direction this will swing depends largely on the government now....

Iogobenz:
This is simple capitalism ,e get person weh dey hold you not to have your own UK passport or UK doctors?
If you can afford it ,go for it,no one is stopping you.
I see no case here.

Bros, this is not capitalism, it is what my people call "colonial mentality". The world leader in capitalism "US", their leader no dey pass DC if he wants to see a doctor.

I no understand how Buhari's visit to Oyinbo doctor be capitalism. Using your reasoning, Donald Trump whey dey use "Walter Reed hospital" for DC is a socialist?

9jatriot:
lol... You are being sarcastic right? When they return as arm robbers and kidnappers?

Anyway, na beg I de beg, let us all cool temper. SARS has bitten more than they can chew, they just had to go.

Sarca what?

Even armed robbers and kidnappers are more scared of jungle justice than police. Jungle justice has been proven to be one of the most effective ways to curb crimes.

Innocent citizens are more scared of the police than thieves.

If not for mob action/jungle justice, one million boys wouldn't have stopped robbing. Did you see any Sars comes out to fight them?

MrMcJay:
I've read the arguments against these protests but it seems a lot of people don't know what the youths are up against.

Before you condemn the End Police Brutality protesters, try to pay a visit to the prisons and see the number of innocent persons there. Personally, a Policeman once stopped me on the road and asked me what job I was doing to drive the kind of car I drove. I told him I'm a lawyer who owned my firm. He insisted on going through my phone to show I was clean. It was until I threatened to sue the CP and IGP before he started begging. Imagine what other young professionals face. A few weeks ago, some policemen threatened to slap my uncle who is above 60 years. This is a man who retired at Director-level in the CBN.

2 days ago, a colleague reached out to me that her neighbour was arrested by the Police. There was a Warrant from another state for his arrest, so it seemed okay on the surface. Now, when she got to the Police station, the Policemen told her not to bother getting a lawyer as it won't change anything. According to them, if the family of the guy was willing to play ball, they would arrest a random person on the street and use him to substitute the person in custody. Provided the court has gotten a scapegoat, it won't matter even if it is an innocent person framed and jailed for an offence he knows absolutely nothing about.

I know for a fact that innocent people are raided regularly and taken to the station. If they can't pay heavy sums for their bail, they are framed for armed robbery and beaten into making self-indictive statements. Also, other persons in custody are tortured to identify the innocent persons as members of their gangs.

You sit in Nairaland thinking your chicken change or investments can protect you or you think you're too old to face Sars or Police harassment. I laugh.
20 years from now when you think you're safe. You have invested all your life and sent your kids to live abroad and they are back for the holidays. Your son takes your car to fuel at the gas station or you send him on an errand and these criminals in uniform would profile them. In the course of explaining and arguments, they would be shot dead. You think it is impossible? They would kill your children and absolutely nothing would happen, I guarantee you. How many killer cops have you seen jailed?

I'm not for anarchy and breakdown of law and order but you should know that peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of justice.

Sanest comment I've read in a long while.

Wiseoldman:


Bros, this is not capitalism, it is what my people call "colonial mentality". The world leader in capitalism "US", their leader no dey pass DC if he wants to see a doctor.

I no understand how Buhari's visit to Oyinbo doctor be capitalism. Using your reasoning, Donald Trump whey dey use "Walter Reed hospital" for DC is a socialist?

Do what you think is best for you if you can afford it and forget about carrying the whole masses along,that's capitalism.
I cannot over explain this as I believe is very easy to understand.

#Endpolicebrutality

Iogobenz:
Do what you think is best for you if you can afford it and forget about carrying the whole masses along,that's capitalism.
I cannot over explain this as I believe is very easy to understand.

Bros, a leader can't do what is best for him. He was voted/employed by the citizens. You need to understand this.

I can't do what I like in my place of work, I am paid to do and act right. Same way the leaders are paid to act SENSIBLE.

I can't be the CEO or Airtel and be wearing MTN shirt everywhere saying that i'm a capitalist. I will be fired asap!

"Capitalism is an economic system in which private individuals or businesses own capital goods. The production of goods and services is based on supply and demand in the general market—known as a market economy—rather than through central planning—known as a planned economy or command economy."

Wiseoldman:


Bros, a leader can't do what is best for him. He was voted/employed by the citizens. You need to understand this.

I can't do what I like in my place of work, I am paid to do and act right. Same way the leaders are paid to act SENSIBLE.

I can't be the CEO or Airtel and be wearing MTN shirt everywhere saying that i'm a capitalist. I will be fired asap!

"Capitalism is an economic system in which private individuals or businesses own capital goods. The production of goods and services is based on supply and demand in the general market—known as a market economy—rather than through central planning—known as a planned economy or command economy."

And private individuals are buying foreign nationalities and using foreign healthcare services because they can afford to or want to,so why are you bothering me with all this long talks?
Abi you want buy your own foreign nationality or go foreign hospital with your money then somebody deny you?
And using that MTN and Airtel example is really off.
It's nowhere written that politicians must use local services.

XiaoLi:
Most middle class and rich Nigerians are self centered, i understand one thing about those who are against this protest..it's all about "my business" "my work" "my investments" e.t.c.

Things will definately change in Nigeria once most people start to understand that "an injsutice to one is an injustice to all"

Sir, what will a revolution or an uprising lead to?

If not political and socioeconomic instability? At best, it leads to a change of the ruling class.

Do you think "Changing the ruling class" will fix Nigeria's problems?

Alot of Nigerians are too emotional.

DontBullshitMe:

Sir, what will a revolution or an uprising lead to?

If not political and socioeconomic instability? At best, it leads to a change of the ruling class.

Do you think "Changing the ruling class" will fix Nigeria's problems?

Alot of Nigerians are too emotional.

change one group of looters to another ...military to politicians to revolutional elites

ahiboilandgas:
change one group of looters to another ...military to politicians to revolutional elites

Unitil when we change our values and orientation as a people.


Surprised about the NANS leader who was involved in a $200,000 misappropriation of fund.


Our problems go beyond the youths or the old, leaders or followers, it is a general problem

emmanuelewumi:



Unitil when we change our values and orientation as a people.


Surprised about the NANS leader who was involved in a $200,000 misappropriation of fund.


Our problems go beyond youths or the old, leaders or followers, it is a general problem

So i heard he was sacked....
This is not enough...we must ensure leaders are accountable..Such case should be prosecuted and dealt with even jailed if need be...but instead it becomes a paddy paddy thing and it dies off... Then the cycle goes on and on again

handsomebolanle:


So i heard he was sacked....
This is not enough...we must ensure leaders are accountable..Such case should be prosecuted and dealt with even jailed if need be...but instead it becomes a paddy paddy thing and it dies off... Then the cycle goes on and on again

Dino was a vibrant Student Union leader, a large number of the past and present house of assembly members, commissioners, special advisers, local government chairmen and councillors in Lagos were former student leaders at either LASU or UNILAG.




Dimeji Bankole was a young bachelor when he became the speaker of the country.