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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:12pm On Oct 14, 2020
steady986:

So who ever averaged more points automatically is the better player? Really? And are we still talking about regular season MVP when LeBron has won the finals MVP? Isn't the finals MVP the be all and end all? The bottom line is that at age 35, LeBron will be entering next season as the best player in the league. Same with MJ, but obviously he retired temporarily at 35

And in the three years KD and Steph played together, Giannis, Harden and Westbrook all won MVP. Giannis won it with 27.7 and 12.5 and had the best record in the league. Harden won it with 30pts and 8.8 assists while leading Houston to first in the west. Westbrook won it while averaging an unprecedented 31 point triple double. Tell me who you would have not given MVP from those three?

Finals MVP is not the end all be all. Really, think about it. It takes only the finals game(s) into account and could careless if the FMVP was coasting during the first round, semis and conference finals. And MJ would have entered the following season after his 35th birthday as the best player as well. By the way, Giannis and Harden deserved it but narrative gave it to RWB. Warriors had 67-15 that year and won 18 straight games with Durant out. Curry had 28 ppg as well. You see, if your argument is that Lebron deserved it this season then why would it not have been one of the warriors players that 2016/17 season?
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:13pm On Oct 14, 2020
SIRcumalot:
I didn't expect the Lakers to win it..

I was in the who will guard "Lilard and CJ" then Westbrook and harden" camp etc.

Congratulation to the Lakers..
The clippers-lakers finals would have been something spectacular sha..
Look, the Lakers should have gone 4-0 against the Clippers in the regular season. We actually had a double digit lead in the third quarter in both game 1 & 2. But let's not dwell on that. We lost. But the last two games were actually the most important because they were the closest to the playoffs. Beating a team closer to the playoffs after previous loses shows that you're probably better than them. The Lakers had found the Clippers out right form game 3

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:13pm On Oct 14, 2020
WeissVonner:


No, you said even without AD, Giannis would win because of numbers. Thats just not true.

Numbers and RECORDS. I am sure I included records.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:18pm On Oct 14, 2020
Android17:


Finals MVP is not the end all be all. Really, think about it. It takes only the finals game(s) into account and could careless if the FMVP was coasting during the first round, semis and conference finals. And MJ would have entered the following season after his 35th birthday as the best player as well. By the way, Giannis and Harden deserved it but narrative gave it to RWB. Warriors had 67-15 that year and won 18 straight games with Durant out. Curry had 28 ppg as well. You see, if your argument is that Lebron deserved it this season then why would it not have been one of the warriors players that 2016/17 season?
But people used finals MVP to crown Kawhi the best player in the league. Or am o missing something?

And it's hard not to give a 31 point triple double player the MVP after it had been done only once previously.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:20pm On Oct 14, 2020
Android17:


Numbers and RECORDS. I am sure I included records.

Dude, if LeBron had the same record he did this year in the West without AD, he'd win MVP by a landslide. I don't know what you're arguing.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:34pm On Oct 14, 2020
Steady986

Your man Rob Parker is back. cheesy

One year ago: LeBron is done winning championships, he's in LA to become a 6'9 Kevin Hart

Today:....

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:14pm On Oct 14, 2020
WeissVonner:
Steady986

Your man Rob Parker is back. cheesy

One year ago: LeBron is done winning championships, he's in LA to become a 6'9 Kevin Hart

Today:....
cheesy

Is there a link to this?
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:22pm On Oct 14, 2020
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:09pm On Oct 14, 2020
grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:26pm On Oct 14, 2020
Said one senior Lakers executive: “While some of our so-called rivals spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars trying to win media cycles, we kept our heads down and focused on basketball — because the only thing we’ve ever cared about winning is championships.”


Love the pettiness.

Rings > Wings
Banners > Billboards

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:27pm On Oct 14, 2020
People sleeping on Westbrook. Replace Paul George with Westbrook on that Clippers team and they automatically become better. In fact I'll fear them more than I did this season.

Meanwhile, I hear the Clippers are looking at Rondo. Lol. All of a sudden Rondo is a hot cake. The only thing that can take Rondo there is if they quadruple his money. He'll earn 2.6m next year if he stays. I'm keeping Rondo by all means if I'm the Lakers.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:32pm On Oct 14, 2020
steady986:
People sleeping on Westbrook. Replace Paul George with Westbrook on that Clippers team and they automatically become better. In fact I'll fear them more than I did this season.

Meanwhile, I hear the Clippers are looking at Rondo. Lol. All of a sudden Rondo is a hot cake. The only thing that can take Rondo there is if they quadruple his money. He'll earn 2.6m next year if he stays. I'm keeping Rondo by all means if I'm the Lakers.

LOL None of the veteran Lakers players is going anywhere. They've already made enough money.

They can get someone like Markieff or Javale or Dion but trust me, Rondo and Dwight aren't going anywhere except if the Lakers decide they don't want them which I seriously doubt.

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 9:33pm On Oct 14, 2020
Re: The NBA Begins by DeeMain(m): 10:20pm On Oct 14, 2020
steady986:

I can literally feel his pain reading this article grin

Rob Parker is shameless. Congratulate the dude for his accomplishments and move on, no, he's bitching about, actively hating a player like he is a jilted spouse.

What about the context? With an incompetent front office and bad culture Cleveland was a dead end and Lebron knew it.

Without a competent front office and/or a competitive team culture you are doomed before you can even compete.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 6:35am On Oct 15, 2020
DeeMain:


Rob Parker is shameless. Congratulate the dude for his accomplishments and move on, no, he's bitching about, actively hating a player like he is a jilted spouse.

What about the context? With an incompetent front office and bad culture Cleveland was a dead end and Lebron knew it.

Without a competent front office and/or a competitive team culture you are doomed before you can even compete.

Rob is one of those people who have sworn never to say anything good about LeBron. LeBron's success saddens him smiley

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Re: The NBA Begins by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:54am On Oct 15, 2020
WeissVonner:
Said one senior Lakers executive: “While some of our so-called rivals spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars trying to win media cycles, we kept our heads down and focused on basketball — because the only thing we’ve ever cared about winning is championships.”


Love the pettiness.

Rings > Wings
Banners > Billboards


My type of pettiness grin
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:43pm On Oct 15, 2020
steady986:

I can literally feel his pain reading this article grin

note how he skipped the eventual championship Lebron won in Cleveland. I actually feel sorry for Rob, so much unresolved pain grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:12pm On Oct 15, 2020
steady986:
People sleeping on Westbrook. Replace Paul George with Westbrook on that Clippers team and they automatically become better. In fact I'll fear them more than I did this season.

Meanwhile, I hear the Clippers are looking at Rondo. Lol. All of a sudden Rondo is a hot cake. The only thing that can take Rondo there is if they quadruple his money. He'll earn 2.6m next year if he stays. I'm keeping Rondo by all means if I'm the Lakers.

Rondo wont work for Clippers. Those wide open 3s he got are for a reason - you would rather live with a Rondo making shots than anyone else. Any other big PG on the Lakers would have done the same or more damage on offense - even Caruso looks awesome on the Lakers. I'm all for Rondo making tons of money off of clippers, then sucking come playoffs grin

The one thing a slower, older Rondo still has though, is that basketball instinct, and it complemented a slower, older Lebron very well during the Nuggets series. It was almost funny to see how they were taking advantage of a much younger team just through smarts. This is why I dont think Rondo would mesh as well with the Clippers - Clippers need to ressurrect the Indiana Pacers PG3, or find another gunner.

If nothing else, I never liked the hatred Celtic Rondo had for Lebron, it seemed like he was carrying Pierce's hate. An older, more independent Rondo seems to have a better appreciation and respect for Lebron. I hope he stays a Laker.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:17pm On Oct 15, 2020
Android17:


But MJ beating the warriors in 2017/18 is not an unknown? Also, you are right that they had a 23 pt lead but that was with 9 mins to go in the 3rd Q and 21 mins overall. We have seen LAL come back from a similar lead against a hot Denver within a shorter time frame than that. We also saw SAS lose at their own ground having led by 22 points to the same Warriors team with KD out. MJ can be the GOAT and still lose to a better team. It happened to him especially earlier in his career.

I want you to explain why you believe in a Game 7 MJ would take 13 3's. Because they literally lost that game due to their inability to make 3's

MJ lost to the better team when he didn't have any help this is not the debate here. Your argument about SAS losing to the Warriors sans KD is also moot because same SAS beat the Warriors by 29 points on their own ground WITH KD

The argument is were the Warriors beatable and the answer is a resounding YES. The rest is semantics. If it took a CP3 injury for the Warriors to come back from a 3-2 deficit then don't say that team was unbeatable
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:29pm On Oct 15, 2020
AD set to opt out of his player option. As expected.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:00pm On Oct 15, 2020
When I say the average Bronsexual no too bright e go be like say na insult

What I was trying to explain to dumb and dumber not too long ago. Smh

You can see the GOAT's efficiency improve the more 3's he took

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:11pm On Oct 15, 2020
Rob Parker is a genius grin grin

That escape to Miami has done more damage than people want to admit. LeBron has moved around so much that his statue one day will have him holding a basketball — and a suitcase.
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:36pm On Oct 15, 2020
A40:
I want you to explain why you believe in a Game 7 MJ would take 13 3's. Because they literally lost that game due to their inability to make 3's

MJ lost to the better team when he didn't have any help this is not the debate here. Your argument about SAS losing to the Warriors sans KD is also moot because same SAS beat the Warriors by 29 points on their own ground WITH KD

The argument is were the Warriors beatable and the answer is a resounding YES. The rest is semantics. If it took a CP3 injury for the Warriors to come back from a 3-2 deficit then don't say that team was unbeatable

MJ has both won and lost games that he barely shot any 3s and when he shot many 3s. Against Portland in 92 game one he shot many 3s and they won that game because he made 7 of them. Further, Rockets lost to the better team. They led first half because they made their 3s so losing second half because they did not make their 3s is logically consistent. CP3 was playing while Rockets were down 2-1 so him being the reason they did not win from 3-2 is as you said, moot. A warriors fan is also allowed to say Rockets went up 3-2 from 2-1 because Andre Iguodala got injured in game 3. MJ lost with help in 1994/95. You are right that Warriors lost by 29 points to the spurs. Which is why I conceded that losing that game 1 of WCF was probable with them being down 23 with 21 minutes to go. Being beatable is not about losing a game or 2. It is about losing a series.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:47pm On Oct 15, 2020
LOL this mad man is still here trying to convince people MJ was a good 3 point shooter.

And did he just call Rob Parker a genius? cheesy

I told you lot to pray for this man. LeBron winning has turned him into a howling ape grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:57pm On Oct 15, 2020
A40:
Rob Parker is a genius grin grin

That escape to Miami has done more damage than people want to admit. LeBron has moved around so much that his statue one day will have him holding a basketball — and a suitcase.

Rob Parker is a genius the same way you're a genius. In the sense that you're the village idiot of this thread just like he's the village idiot of sports media. cheesy

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:05pm On Oct 15, 2020
Android17:


MJ has both won and lost games that he barely shot any 3s and when he shot many 3s. Against Portland in 92 game one he shot many 3s and they won that game because he made 7 of them. Further, Rockets lost to the better team. They led first half because they made their 3s so losing second half because they did not make their 3s is logically consistent. CP3 was playing while Rockets were down 2-1 so him being the reason they did not win from 3-2 is as you said, moot. A warriors fan is also allowed to say Rockets went up 3-2 from 2-1 because Andre Iguodala got injured in game 3. MJ lost with help in 1994/95. You are right that Warriors lost by 29 points to the spurs. Which is why I conceded that losing that game 1 of WCF was probable with them being down 23 with 21 minutes to go. Being beatable is not about losing a game or 2. It is about losing a series.
Are you serious? Are you comparing Andre Iguodala to Chris Paul? This is a terrible joke surely

No objective fan would compare Iguodala to Chris Paul

They led the first half because they made their 3's? Do you guys even fact check anything at all. They shot 7-44 from 3 the entire game bro!! Always double-check and don't just post anything to make an argument

Who was MJ's help in 94/95? How well did they play?

Beatable means they can be beat. There is difference between unbeaten and unbeatable. If you can be pushed to a Game 7 and be down by double digits by half-time even with the other team missing it's second best player then you can be beat
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:10pm On Oct 15, 2020
WeissVonner:
LOL this mad man is still here trying to convince people MJ was a good 3 point shooter.

And did he just call Rob Parker a genius? cheesy

I told you lot to pray for this man. LeBron winning has turned him into a howling ape grin
Stupidity and ignorance is surely the
only legal tender in Bronsexuality country. You have the comprehension skills of a Trisomy 21 sufferer.

Whether MJ was a good or bad 3pt shooter is moot. Though he was good enough to shoot 40% from 3pt in the Finals even without a shortened line.

What I showed to a bumbling dyslexic country eediot like yourself is that the volume of 3's taken also can affect efficiency. Dolt
Re: The NBA Begins by Hohenheim(m): 6:15pm On Oct 15, 2020
Daryl Morey out as rockets Gm? cry Finally a dream come true.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:15pm On Oct 15, 2020
A40:
Stupidity and ignorance is surely the
only legal tender in Bronsexuality country. You have the comprehension skills of a Trisomy 21 sufferer.

Whether MJ was a good or bad 3pt shooter is moot. Though he was good enough to shoot 40% from 3pt in the Finals even without a shortened line.

What I showed to a bumbling dyslexic country eediot like yourself is that the volume of 3's taken also can affect efficiency. Dolt

You can spin this however you want, you crying because Bron in year 17 at 35 put up waaay waaay waaay better numbers than your man in year 13 at 35 who went into full on brick mode. Nothing will change that. Nothing will also change the fact that your man was a bad 3 point shooter.

You are a grown man who is all over the place spamming "bronsexual" in every comment you make and you're accusing other people here of stupidity and ignorance? cheesy

This is why nobody takes you seriously anymore. Just stop embarrassing yourself.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:15pm On Oct 15, 2020
WeissVonner:


Rob Parker is a genius the same way you're a genius. In the sense that you're the village idiot of this thread just like he's the village idiot of sports media. cheesy
A flaming nonce like you probably considers a rank idiot and unrepentant Bronsexual knobjockey like Nick Wright a genius so why not Rob Parker who actually spat facts.

Nobody respects Le3-6-1 and his Mickey Mouse ring which explains why even after winning he is out there crying for respect. Literally nobody cares for his Mickey mouse ring apart from crackhead Bronsexuals like yourself

Tywin Lannister said it best Any Man Who Must Say 'I Am The King' Is No True King"

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:32pm On Oct 15, 2020
WeissVonner:


You can spin this however you want, you are all over here crying because Bron in year 17 at 35 put up waaay waaay waaay better numbers than your man in year 13 at 35 who went into full on brick mode. Nothing will change that. Nothing will also change the fact that your man was a bad 3 point shooter.

You are a grown man who is all over the place spamming "bronsexual" in every comment you make and you're accusing other people here of stupidity and ignorance? cheesy

This is why nobody takes you seriously anymore. Just stop embarrassing yourself.
Hahahaha what a certified dolt. Your man has literally won half his chips in shortened seasons. Nobody is salty about your Mickey Mouse ring man. You don't expect to talk shyte and not get a clap back.

You don't get an extra ring for putting up better efficiency numbers you dweeb! Literally pointed out to you Muppets that LeNomad's numbers are easily explainable because he has been taking the bulk of his shots closer to the basket (3ft). He can do that now because he's playing in a soft era with no real rim protection.

I don't recall anyone ever saying MJ was a great 3 point shooter. Neither is LeNomad FFS. You can't comprehend for shyte

Lol you're literally the most obtuse swine to ever grace this planet.

Who comes here to be taken serious? I thought we simply came here to banter basketball and bounce. What a nonce!

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:15pm On Oct 15, 2020
Rondo's situation is kind of a tricky one. At this stage of his career what is it that he really wants? He's made quite a few bucks over the years, but he wouldn't mind getting $14m in two years before he calls it quits. That's a handsome retirement money. If the Lakers won't give him that money I won't be surprised if he goes where he can get it.

On the other hand, why leave a team where you just won. Staying with the Lakers could almost guarantee you a few more chips, if that's what you're chasing. Because right now, chips look like the only thing that can land him in that hall of fame.

All in all, I think he'll stay if the Lakers agree to give him 4-5m a year.

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