Blabbermouth:


I concur.

You concur to which one:

"1. That whatever happens between a man and a woman (married) behind closed doors is Holy so far they're both enjoying it."


2. That "I purposely told him in a chat that there are certain aspects of life on earth that those going to heaven will no more engage in that's all and ever"

For you to understand the second part very well read this article

You'll see Watchtower prescribing two different lifestyle for her members.

The most astonished point from the article is:

"Another requirement is that they conform to God’s moral standards and manifest such qualities as honesty, integrity, and compassion. ( 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ) They must also remain loyal to God and Christ till the end of their earthly course. ( Luke 22:28-30; 2 Timothy 2:12 ) Only by meeting those requirements can they show themselves worthy of being resurrected and qualified for the weighty responsibility awaiting them in heaven..."

It means those who will live forever on earth can't remain loyal forever to Christ and God, and don't possess such attributes of Honesty, integrity and compassion.

When the scripture says "Be ye perfect as your Father is perfect" and "Be ye Holy as I am Holy"

NO!
It means Whoever failed among them to keep those qualities will loose his qualification of being part of the first resurrection, then such a person can continue his race for everlasting life in Paradise on earth!
Good evening sir!

Emusan:


You concur to which one:

"1. That whatever happens between a man and a woman (married) behind closed doors is Holy so far they're both enjoying it."


2. That "I purposely told him in a chat that there are certain aspects of life on earth that those going to heaven will no more engage in that's all and ever"

For you to understand the second part very well read this article

You'll see Watchtower prescribing two different lifestyle for her members.

The most astonished point from the article is:

"Another requirement is that they conform to God’s moral standards and manifest such qualities as honesty, integrity, and compassion. ( 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ) They must also remain loyal to God and Christ till the end of their earthly course. ( Luke 22:28-30; 2 Timothy 2:12 ) Only by meeting those requirements can they show themselves worthy of being resurrected and qualified for the weighty responsibility awaiting them in heaven..."

It means those who will live forever on earth can't remain loyal forever to Christ and God, and don't possess such attributes of Honesty, integrity and compassion.

When the scripture says "Be ye perfect as your Father is perfect" and "Be ye Holy as I am Holy"

AkinwaleJJ:
NO!
It means Whoever failed among them to keep those qualities will loose his qualification of being part of the first resurrection, then such a person can continue his race for everlasting life in Paradise on earth!
Good evening sir!

You just proved my point that "It means THOSE WHO WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH can't remain loyal forever to Christ and God, and don't possess such attributes of Honesty, integrity and compassion ."

Good evening ma!

Ndipe:
https://www.christianity.com/wiki/holidays/why-did-jesus-use-the-same-body-after-the-cross.html

Bros , according to your link , was Jesus resurrected body "different from before his crucifixion "?

Do you now agree that the title of your link is "Jesus use the same body" is FALSE ?

According to your link, the Roman soldiers "literally drained the blood from Jesus body, is that claim in your own Bible?

Why would Jesus be able to appear and disappear if he's not floating like spirits ?

Janosky:


Bros, according to you, these Translations does not cut it... because in your faulty submission, Physical is not natural and the human body is not physical. Haaaaa !!
Omo you go write your own Bible na


1 Corinthians15:44
Contemporary English Version
As surely as there are physical bodies, there are spiritual bodies. And our physical bodies will be changed into spiritual bodies.

Good News Translation
When buried, it is a physical body; when raised, it will be a spiritual body. There is, of course, a physical body, so there has to be a spiritual body.



International Standard Version
It is planted a physical body but is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body.


Aramaic Bible in Plain English
It is sown an animal body; a spiritual body rises, for there is an animal body, and there is a spiritual body.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
It is planted as a physical body. It comes back to life as a spiritual body. As there is a physical body, so there is also a spiritual body.

you think you are dealing with a novice right? Why did you keep silence at the greek translation? Remember all those versions were translated from greek.

Every english versions has their limitations as far as accuracy is concerned.

They surely will, they only lost the privilege of being with Jesus in heaven when they fail. Those going to heaven have no second chance, failure to maintain the standard means they can now run for everlasting life on earth.
That's what Jesus told the sons of Zebedee, they both told Jesus they're up to the task, and they made it because they maintained those qualities without fail. The Christian disfellowshiped in Corinth over fornication might have been part of the anointed, but after his misdeed he can no longer be one of them yet by God's grace if he genuinely repented he will have everlasting, not in heaven anymore but here on earth!

Emusan:


You just proved my point that "It means THOSE WHO WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH can't remain loyal forever to Christ and God, and don't possess such attributes of Honesty, integrity and compassion ."

Good evening ma!

livingchrist:
you think you are dealing with a novice right? Why did you keep silence at the greek translation? Remember all those versions were translated from greek.

Every english versions has their limitations as far as accuracy is concerned.

The key word (Greek 5591)Animal, Natural, Physical is the the same meaning.
Greek Psychikon also meaning "Carnal" ..

The Dictionary and the Thesaurus no get issue at all.

Bros, the problem is You , I have to be very frank.

AkinwaleJJ:
They surely will, they only lost the privilege of being with Jesus in heaven when they fail. Those going to heaven have no second chance, failure to maintain the standard means they can now run for everlasting life on earth.
That's what Jesus told the sons of Zebedee, they both told Jesus they're up to the task, and they made it because they maintained those qualities without fail. The Christian disfellowshiped in Corinth over fornication might have been part of the anointed, but after his misdeed he can no longer be one of them yet by God's grace if he genuinely repented he will have everlasting, not in heaven anymore but here on earth!

Assumptions, speculations here and there. The words in bold tells the story. Last time I check you are not JESUS.

You need to open up your eye's- Jesus never declared to be a denomination, so what makes you believe Jesus would claim to be a JW-when in fact the evidence is out there-the Watchtower refuses to believe the Word of God-
Why would Jesus deny Himself-when in fact He spoke the Word of God to His disciples-and still today that same Word of God is taught all over the world.
And yet you claim Jesus is a JW-just like you-denying the truth about Himself..

Janosky:



If only you studied your Bible , you won't write that CRAP (bolded)
According to your Bible, Isaiah 43:10-12, John 9:4 & Acts 3:13, Rev3:12-14 what does Jehovah call His servants ?
Who is the God and Father of servants of Jehovah?

Bros, you have the option to DECEIVE yourself

Janosky:
Bros , according to your link , was Jesus resurrected body "different from before his crucifixion "?

Do you now agree that the title of your link is "Jesus use the same body" is FALSE ?

According to your link, the Roman soldiers "literally drained the blood from Jesus body, is that claim in your own Bible?

Why would Jesus be able to appear and disappear if he's not floating like spirits ?

Do you at all have any idea what kind of bodies A&E had before their fall from grace to grass, hmm?

What exactly was it that Eve felt intense mental pain and profound sorrow over, that she from great mental anguished, worried and agonised herself over, from knowing that though they were exposed but because of a particular transcendent cover, were not bothered nor ashamed, but then as soon or almost immediately after eating of the fruit from TKGE, they felt and sensed the loss of this transcendent covering, so caused them cover up and go into hiding at sound of hearing the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day. It defo wasn't just only merely or ordinarily just the transcendent covering that they lost, there must have been some other things else associated with the transcendent covering, in terms of the empowerment the covering gave them, but that's all gone and got lost along with losing the actual transcendent covering itself, lmso

It is not rocket science to see how Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was cycling everything back to the beginning, meaning without sin, A&E had glorified bodies, as a result of being clothed in garment of righteousness, but from the moment sin crept in, they were stripped off it. I can imagine Eve, beating herself up over the unpleasant and embarrassing situation they landed themselves in, after her, offering Adam, her husband, the fruit to eat.

Another intriguing combination to reflect upon is the woman who brought an alabaster jar of expensive perfume, poured it over Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' head and anointed His feet with the same perfume too. What significant purpose to serve, was she doing all that for, to Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ for, hmm, lmso?

Now also consider why importantly or shall I say, scientifically or biologically, lmso, didnt Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ resurrect later than the third day or even at most, past the fourth day, lmso
cc: Acehart, lmso

MuttleyLaff:

cc: Acehart, lmso

Hello. Why was I copied?

Jozzy4:


Sexual desires with ones married partner is not lust. You need to understand scripture before quoting them.

your quoted verse is not license for immorality, fool

oh duh sexualy immoral false jw jozz

i know that you believe that blow jobs and anal intercourse is okay for you satans mob
if it's behind closed doors and if you like it, it's not only all right but it's "holy" according to mad max, fools

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Wahala for who no know the difference between a natural body and a spiritual body.

I was engaging a witness some weeks ago, and he was trying to juxtapose between a physical body and a spirit body.
I asked him of the case of Balaam who with his korokoro eyes (after it had been opened though) saw an angel in its spirit body.
With this, we understood that a spirit body can actually be visible!

It is unwise to therefore associate spirit body with invisibility and natural body with visibility - the way our JW brothers do in order to save their Angel Michael is Jesus hogwash.

Emusan:


You concur to which one:

"1. That whatever happens between a man and a woman (married) behind closed doors is Holy so far they're both enjoying it."

Yes.

2. That "I purposely told him in a chat that there are certain aspects of life on earth that those going to heaven will no more engage in that's all and ever"

To your underlined, yes!

For you to understand the second part very well read this article

You'll see Watchtower prescribing two different lifestyle for her members.

The most astonished point from the article is:

"Another requirement is that they conform to God’s moral standards and manifest such qualities as honesty, integrity, and compassion. ( 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ) They must also remain loyal to God and Christ till the end of their earthly course. ( Luke 22:28-30; 2 Timothy 2:12 ) Only by meeting those requirements can they show themselves worthy of being resurrected and qualified for the weighty responsibility awaiting them in heaven..."

It means those who will live forever on earth can't remain loyal forever to Christ and God, and don't possess such attributes of Honesty, integrity and compassion.

Wahala for JW that are hell bent on their first batch and second batch salvation.

When the scripture says "Be ye perfect as your Father is perfect" and "Be ye Holy as I am Holy"

Wahala for the one and only group that does not understand that Grace and truth came through Jesus the Christ.

Jozzy4:


Go back to my post and read the scripture quoted and stop acting silly in public. I shared that post not only for MaxiInDHouse , But any other couple you meet , don't ever interfere in their private matters. Whatever they do is between them. They have authority over every part of their bodies.

your quoted verse is not license for immorality, fool

oh duh sexualy immoral false jw jozz

i know that you believe that blow jobs and anal intercourse is okay for you satans mob
if it's behind closed doors and if you like it, it's not only all right but it's "holy" according to mad max, fools

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Jas_1:15  Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

1Jn_2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

1 Thes 4:3-5. "For this is the will of God,...ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor. Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God"

AkinwaleJJ:
They surely will, they only lost the privilege of being with Jesus in heaven when they fail. Those going to heaven have no second chance, failure to maintain the standard means they can now run for everlasting life on earth.

I would have loved to swallow this hook, line and sinker. Unfortunately, my stubborn heart and mouth is only moved or changed by the word of God.

Can you help me with bible verses that claims that some set of ressurected men are going to dwell in heaven forever?

Gal_5:16  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

1Co 14:40  Let all things be done decently and in order.

Heb_13:4  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled:

2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, since we have promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates the body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.

Romans 12:1 I appeal to you therefore brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, Which is your spiritual worship.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is the temple of Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price, therefore glorify God in your body, and in your Spirit, which are God's.

Janosky:

The key word (Greek 5591)Animal, Natural, Physical is the the same meaning.
Greek Psychikon also meaning "Carnal" ..

The Dictionary and the Thesaurus no get issue at all.

Bros, the problem is You , I have to be very frank.

you are the one that has a problem. I dont think you can understand a thing,
strong explained what animal or natural means in context.

Psychikon means soulish, natural, sensual, carnal.

Psychikon describes a state of dependence on the the soul.
It is from the word psychi which mean soul.

fact psychikon does not describe form


Psychikon soma means a body that depends on the nature.
That is why kjv used natural body, while some other translations used physical body.
But the denotative meaning is soulish body.
Physical body is a weak translation, you can see how strong carefully explain what he means by animal body so that people like you will not misquote him for some ulterior motive.


In the bible physical and spiritual are not necessarily at opposite.
Like I showed you something can be spiritual and yet physical.

of course only satans mob agree with each other that
blow jobs and anal intercourse etc. is okay with God
and not only is okay but is "holy"

false jw's of course are of the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw47:


of course only satans mob agree with each other that
blow jobs and anal intercourse etc. is okay with God
and not only is okay but is "holy"

false jw's of course are of the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

If you will be opening this page fully, you sir, should be ready to tell us the biblical guidelines for having sexual intercouse with one's wife.
For starters
1. According to the bible, what are the permitted sex styles one is to use during intercourse?

2. According to the bible, how many rounds are we to go in a day?

3. According to the bible, is a woman allowed to orgasm?

4. According to the bible, is condom prohibited?

Perhaps, after you've given the biblical guideline on sex position, orgasm, pre-intimacy, condom, duration and the likes, then we can begin to truthfully juxtapose between the good acts of the bedroom and lusty (just as you put it) acts of the bedroom.

Blabbermouth:

If you will be opening this page fully, you sir, should be ready to tell us the biblical guidelines for having sexual intercouse with one's wife.
For starters
1. According to the bible, what are the permitted sex styles one is to use during intercourse?

2. According to the bible, how many rounds are we to go in a day?

3. According to the bible, is a woman allowed to orgasm?

4. According to the bible, is condom prohibited?

Perhaps, after you've given the biblical guideline on sex position, orgasm, pre-intimacy, condom, duration and the likes, then we can begin to truthfully juxtapose between the good acts of the bedroom and lusty (just as you put it) acts of the bedroom.

blabbermouth fool

i'm not here to search for verses and answer questions of fools
which wouldn't change the fact that unnatural sexual acts
such as anal intercourse is wrong

it of course is not acceptable to God and certainly
is not considered "holy" by God even if done in private between
a married couple

immoral fool like false jw's
if you had God's Holy Spirit you would know that perverted sex acts are against God

Pro_12:15  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes:

johnw47:


blabbermouth fool

i'm not here to search for verses and answer questions of fools
which wouldn't change the fact that unnatural sexual acts
such as anal intercourse is wrong

it of course is not acceptable to God and certainly
is not considered "holy" by God even if done in private between
a married couple

immoral fool like false jw's
if you had God's Holy Spirit you would know that perverted sex acts are against God

Pro_12:15  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes:

I'm a fool? No problem.

Whenever you are ready to give the biblically recommended or prohibited sex positions, pre intimacy, duration, condom, orgasm, use of fingers and the likes, holla me.

Holy spirit? The holy spirit in me?
Oh, you are saying the holy spirit in me should have told me that analsex and oral are perverted sex acts, and they are sin.
Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha.

There was this day I tried eating pork. Prior to that day, I've not eaten pork before because I was raised in a strict Muslim family.
Actually, it's not as if I was hungry or something, I just wanted to flex my SALVATION, my NO LONGER UNDER THE LAW card, you know.

I bought #100 own and was about devouring it. There is this kind of awareness or aura that comes in me whenever I'm sinning or about to sin knowingly, I felt that same awareness and aura when I wanted to eat the pork.
I just look away (ignored the awareness check) and started eating the pork. Bro, for some time, I just didn't know what happened - but I knew something did not add up.

Now, because of that experience, do you suggest I go about telling people that EATING PORK IS A SIN? No! God forbid! What scripture will I use to back that up?

There are some things that may count as sin, but then, it is relative to whoever is engaging in such.
Take alcohol for example, in all honesty, taking alcohol moderately is not a sin.

However for a guy that misbehaves if he takes just one shot, the holy spirit might put such person in check to NEVER TASTE ALCOHOL. Should he go about claiming that DRINKING ALCOHOL MODERATELY IS SIN? God forbid!

Such is the case with MouthAction, anal sex and the likes. Personally, I don't buy the idea of anal sex, it's just not alright with me. However, that doesn't warrant me to go about telling MARRIED COUPLES that Anal sex is sin.
Sex-tronomy chapter what verse what is that written ?

Blabbermouth:

I'm a fool? No problem.

Whenever you are ready to give the biblically recommended or prohibited sex positions, pre intimacy, duration, condom, orgasm, use of fingers and the likes, holla me.

Holy spirit? The holy spirit in me?
Oh, you are saying the holy spirit in me should have told me that analsex and oral are perverted sex acts, and they are sin.
Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha.

There was this day I tried eating pork. Prior to that day, I've not eaten pork before because I was raised in a strict Muslim family.
Actually, it's not as if I was hungry or something, I just wanted to flex my SALVATION, my NO LONGER UNDER THE LAW card, you know.

I bought #100 own and was about devouring it. There is this kind of awareness or aura that comes in me whenever I'm sinning or about to sin knowingly, I felt that same awareness and aura when I wanted to eat the pork.
I just look away (ignored the awareness check) and started eating the pork. Bro, for some time, I just didn't know what happened - but I knew something did not add up.

Now, because of that experience, do you suggest I go about telling people that EATING PORK IS A SIN? No! God forbid! What scripture will I use to back that up?

There are some things that may count as sin, but then, it is relative to whoever is engaging in such.
Take alcohol for example, in all honesty, taking alcohol moderately is not a sin.

However for a guy that misbehaves if he takes just one shot, the holy spirit might put such person in check to NEVER TASTE ALCOHOL. Should he go about claiming that DRINKING ALCOHOL MODERATELY IS SIN? God forbid!

Such is the case with MouthAction, anal sex and the likes. Personally, I don't buy the idea of anal sex, it's just not alright with me. However, that doesn't warrant me to go about telling MARRIED COUPLES that Anal sex is sin.
Sex-tronomy chapter what verse what is that written ?

like i said fool, if you had God's Holy Spirit

you would know that anal intercourse even between married couples etc. is not "holy" etc.

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

johnw47:


like i said fool, if you had God's Holy Spirit you would know that anal intercourse even between married couples etc. is not "holy" etc.

It's not sensible to shove your opinion down people's throat and use your sentiments to back it up.

Sex-tronomy chapter what verse what will I find this written? That's the simple question I'm asking you.

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

I don't know of you, but I don't go low to abusing people when I can't prove a belief with the scripture.

Blabbermouth:

It's not sensible to shove your opinion down people's throat and use your sentiments to back it up.

Sex-tronomy chapter what verse what will I find this written? That's the simple question I'm asking you.

I don't know of you, but I don't go low to abusing people when I can't prove a belief with the scripture.

i'm not interested in what you think, immoral fool

all forms of sexual immorality are sinful

1Th 4:3  For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: 
1Th 4:4  That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; 
1Th 4:5  Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: 
1Th 4:6  That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. 
1Th 4:7  For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. 
1Th 4:8  He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.



paul identifies as sinful what is not natural. any sex act therefore that is not natural would be wrong. explicitly, paul identifies homosexuality. implicitly, paul refers to what is not natural generally.

Rom 1:24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 
Rom 1:25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 
Rom 1:26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Blabbermouth:

I would have loved to swallow this hook, line and sinker. Unfortunately, my stubborn heart and mouth is only moved or changed by the word of God.

Can you help me with bible verses that claims that some set of ressurected men are going to dwell in heaven forever?

These anointed faithful Christains will form the 'New heaven/heavenly government ( 2 Peter 3:​13).They will rule as King and priest with Jesus for 1000yrs (Revelation 5:​9, 10; 20:6)
Of course, Kings would have subject to rule upon..
Jehovah promises everlasting life on earth for most good people and they form the 'new earth'—Psalm 37:11, 29, 34.

johnw47:


i'm not interested in what you think, immoral fool

That's your M.O, you resort to verbal abuse when you realize you've started what you can't finish.
Since you are the one with the divine mandate, empowered by the spirit to educate the body of christ on how sexual intercourse should be carried out between married couples.
Go ahead and tell us...

For starters

1. According to the bible, what are the permitted sex styles one is to use during intercourse?

2. According to the bible, how many rounds are we to go in a day?

3. According to the bible, is a woman allowed to orgasm?

4. According to the bible, is condom prohibited?

I'm 100% sure you use condoms or your wife uses contraceptives.
If you get liver, show me where your use of condom in endorsed by the bible.

Blabbermouth:

That's your M.O, you resort to verbal abuse when you realize you've started what you can't finish.
Since you are the one with the divine mandate, empowered by the spirit to educate the body of christ on how sexual intercourse should be carried out between married couples.
Go ahead and tell us...

I'm 100% sure you use condoms or your wife uses contraceptives.
If you get liver, show me where your use of condom in endorsed by the bible.

blabber
what is is about this that you immoral fool don't understand

johnw47:


i'm not interested in what you think, immoral fool

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

haddeylium:



These anointed faithful Christains will form the 'New heaven/heavenly government ( 2 Peter 3:​13).They will rule as King and priest with Jesus for 1000yrs (Revelation 5:​9, 10; 20:6)
Of course, Kings would have subject to rule upon..
Jehovah promises everlasting life on earth for most good people and they form the 'new earth'—Psalm 37:11, 29, 34.

I read all the scriptures you gave (except the psalms).
None of them proved what I ask for - A bible verse that connotes that some ressurected men will live in heaven forever.

johnw47:


blabber
what is is about this that you immoral fool don'tunderstand



Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Jesus asked me to tell you that, with your use of "fools", you are writing an admission letter to the lake of fire.