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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 8:58am On Oct 31, 2020
eph12:

I said it na grin
grin

Fred has been immense and we all know that for midfielders like him, stats don't always tell the whole story. If they are counting assister of the assist man cheesy then his numbers will be up there with the rest.. He should be compensated for his energetic displays.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Sniper4real(m): 9:05am On Oct 31, 2020
afrodoc2:


Similar to my line up. Just Tuanzebe for Lindelof and Cavani for Greenwood.

Yours is probably better but just not sure about the fitness of Cavani and Tuanzebe.

If Arsenal sit back Cavani’s ability to find space in the box through his movement would be important.

One combo that we should try in subsequent games against bus parking teams is Cavani and Greenwood. Our 2 best box movers and finishers together.



Won't we lack speed with Cavani and Greenwood playing together?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:06am On Oct 31, 2020
pharod:


No lies. There's nothing like "marking him out". I've seen games where the defender thinks he's shielding him away from goal only for Greenwood to still score. If you no fear Greenwood, you are on your own..
This hype is getting ridiculous. How many big teams has he scored against?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:07am On Oct 31, 2020
pharod:


No lies. There's nothing like "marking him out". I've seen games where the defender thinks he's shielding him away from goal only for Greenwood to still score. If you no fear Greenwood, you are on your own..

EPL oppositions have been double man-marking him. And there’s always a defender on him.

Arteta may do same tomorrow.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:09am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

This hype is getting ridiculous. How many big teams has he scored against?

All of Madrid’s attackers aren’t as good as his right foot.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:11am On Oct 31, 2020
Leyqute:


[s] All of Madrid’s attackers aren’t as good as his right foot. [/s]
The man "who can't be marked out"How many big teams has he scored against?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:12am On Oct 31, 2020
Sniper4real:




Won't we lack speed with Cavani and Greenwood playing together?

A little although Greenwood is faster than people think. But remember that against teams that park the bus there would be no space to use the speed anyway, so it would be all about movement and finishing inside the box.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:13am On Oct 31, 2020
Leyqute:


EPL oppositions have been double man-marking him. And there’s always a defender on him.

Arteta may do same tomorrow.

He has been playing as a RWF though. Play him closer to goal in attack as part of a front 2 and it would be more difficult to keep him from scoring.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:14am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

[s]The man "who can't be marked out"How many big teams has he scored against?[/s]

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Godx: 9:17am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

The man "who can't be marked out"How many big teams has he scored against?
Zero

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 9:18am On Oct 31, 2020
Chelsea must fall today!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:18am On Oct 31, 2020
pharod:

grin

Fred has been immense and we all know that for midfielders like him, stats don't always tell the whole story. If they are counting assister of the assist man cheesy then his numbers will be up there with the rest.. He should be compensated for his energetic displays.
Yeah we really need that energy in the midfield. Anybody still expecting goals and assists from him will wait a long time. What he will give you is a platform for Bruno and co to do their jobs effectively. Whether it's Pogba, Bruno or VDB playing in front of him, as long as Fred has the freedom to move around the midfield mopping up attacks, they will be fine. Making him sit in front of the defense may not work for him and the team too. So someone has to sit there while he's allowed to do his thing

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:21am On Oct 31, 2020
afrodoc2:


He has been playing as a RWF though. Play him closer to goal in attack as part of a front 2 and it would be more difficult to keep him from scoring.

Wish he was played more centrally and less to the wings. He sure knows how to evade CBs and score goals. His first against RB Leipzig attests to this.

Surely he will learn more off-ball movements from Cavani but I’d prefer he gets more time in that role. Not as a starter, but maybe due to a tweak in formation or something

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:22am On Oct 31, 2020
Godx:

Zero
Epl fans are ridiculous. The way they are praising his finishing one would think he was banging in goals against the big teams on a regular but check his goal records it's all against relegation fodders.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:23am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

Epl fans are ridiculous. The way they are praising his finishing one would think he was banging in goals against the big teams on a regular but check his goal records it's all against relegation fodders.

Unlike your most expensive forward, Hazard Ikebe Super.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:25am On Oct 31, 2020
Leyqute:


Unlike your most expensive forward, Hazard Ikebe Super.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Godx: 9:26am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

Epl fans are ridiculous. The way they are praising his finishing one would think he was banging in goals against the big teams on a regular but check his goal records it's all against relegation fodders.
You mean he is doing a lukaku grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:27am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

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Lol. Cat got your tongue, Chale?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:28am On Oct 31, 2020
Leyqute:


Wish he was played more centrally and less to the wings. He sure knows how to evade CBs and score goals. His first against RB Leipzig attests to this.

Surely he will learn more off-ball movements from Cavani but I’d prefer he gets more time in that role. Not as a starter, but maybe due to a tweak in formation or something

I was never a fan of 4-4-2 however this formation is the formation that gets us to use the highest number of our good players and also make wholesale substitutions and changes without a big drop off in quality.
This is because it makes use of midfielders and strikers which we have plenty of instead of wingers which we have almost none of.

ST: Martial and Rashford. We can switch to Cavani or Greenwood with quality maintained.

Base of the diamond: McTominay. We can use Matic or even use Fred as a last resort.

Left side of the diamond: Pogba. We can use Fred there or even VDB if forced to.

Right side of the diamond: Fred. We can use Pogba there, or McTominay, or VDB, or Bruno.

Tip of the diamond: Bruno. We can use VDB, Pogba, or even Mata there.

This formation withstands injuries and loss of form the best.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:35am On Oct 31, 2020
Eden Hazard + Vinicius + Rodrygo (190 million Euro) = 10 goals in 90 league games combined.


Mason Greenwood (0 Euro) = 10 goals in 38 league games.


Even Benzema had to come out and confess that Vinicius was a short one, telling Ferland Mendy "don't pass to him brother, he is playing for the other team" cheesy

You guys should stop bothering with these clowns.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:47am On Oct 31, 2020
Godx:

You mean he is doing a lukaku grin
United fans are suddenly mute.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:49am On Oct 31, 2020
afrodoc2:
[s] Eden Hazard + Vinicius + Rodrygo (190 million Euro) = 10 goals in 90 league games combined.


Mason Greenwood (0 Euro) = 10 goals in 38 league games.


Even Benzema had to come out and confess that Vinicius was a short one, telling Ferland Mendy "don't pass to him brother, he is playing for the other team" cheesy

You guys should stop bothering with these clowns. [/s]
What a shameless post. The man "who can't be marked out and who defenders should fear " How many big teams has he scored against?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 9:51am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

United fans are suddenly mute.

You've been aired bro. Dfkm

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:51am On Oct 31, 2020
afrodoc2:


I was never a fan of 4-4-2 however this formation is the formation that gets us to use the highest number of our good players and also make wholesale substitutions and changes without a big drop off in quality.
This is because it makes use of midfielders and strikers which we have plenty of instead of wingers which we have almost none of.

ST: Martial and Rashford. We can switch to Cavani or Greenwood with quality maintained.

Base of the diamond: McTominay. We can use Matic or even use Fred as a last resort.

Left side of the diamond: Pogba. We can use Fred there or even VDB if forced to.

Right side of the diamond: Fred. We can use Pogba there, or McTominay, or VDB, or Bruno.

Tip of the diamond: Bruno. We can use VDB, Pogba, or even Mata there.

This formation withstands injuries and loss of form the best.

Agreed.

However, we don’t have the personnel to effectively execute that formation. It requires the full backs to provide width and we know how poor AWB and Shaw are in that area.

Apart from refusing to venture forward, they hardly create good chances when they go forward. Pogba can hardly cover for his FB but he’s trying.

I think switching formations during games will help both the players and manager improve. 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 5-3-2.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:52am On Oct 31, 2020
pharod:


You've been aired bro. Dfkm

Ignore that widget jare.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 9:53am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:
United fans are suddenly mute.
How many times has he played or started against a big team?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 9:55am On Oct 31, 2020
pharod:


You've been aired bro. Dfkm
Aired by what? A useless and shameless whataboutism post by afrodoc2 without context or relation to Greenwood goal record against big teams.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:59am On Oct 31, 2020
Leyqute:


Agreed.

However, we don’t have the personnel to effectively execute that formation. It requires the full backs to provide width and we know how poor AWB and Shaw are in that area.

Apart from refusing to venture forward, they hardly create good chances when they go forward. Pogba can hardly cover for his FB but he’s trying.

I think switching formations during games will help both the players and manager improve. 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 5-3-2.

Yeah it is not perfect but i think it is a better starting formation than 4-2-3-1 that becomes rubbish immediately Rashford or Greenwood is injured and we start depending on Mata or James.

With regards to the full backs Telles would be the ideal LB in the formation with Shaw dropping to the bench. We have to use AWB until we get a better RB.

Also i do agree that we should be able to switch formation if need be to face a specific kind of opponent but i think the 4-4-2 while not perfect is the best formation we have for now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:59am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

Epl fans are ridiculous. The way they are praising his finishing one would think he was banging in goals against the big teams on a regular but check his goal records it's all against relegation fodders.
Ucl semifinalist and Bundesliga leader don turn relegation fodders grin Hazard fans will always embarrass you

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Godx: 10:12am On Oct 31, 2020
Melvyn11:

Aired by what? A useless and shameless whataboutism post by afrodoc2 without context or relation to Greenwood goal record against big teams.
cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:19am On Oct 31, 2020
Arsenal is a done deal.Their fans shud worry about d number of goals dey will concede.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:25am On Oct 31, 2020
Leyqute:


Unlike your most expensive forward, Hazard Ikebe Super.
grin grin

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