Spy360:

I mentioned you because you are my online friend plus you share same passion howbeit different beliefs.

Meanwhile, wandering stars are other names of planets.

when you take a look at the what you call planets you will see that they are not different from the other stars they give out light just like other stars.

The scientist who call this things planet do not even know what these things are.

I was taught that Pluto is the last and smallest planet as far back as 1998 when I was still in primary school, but today the star they call Pluto has disappeared forcing these scientist to declassify it as a planet.

If this star was really a planet then why would they declassify it and remove it as one of the planets?
They do this because they don't even really know what they are, every thing they say about planets is just wild speculation and lies.

If that star was indeed a planet then why would it disappear? Or did it fall off the solar system?

These things are not planets they are just heavenly luminaries and we cannot completely know what they are because we can't reach them, they are in the roof of the flat earth called the firmament.


The elite discovered this long ago and they tried break Into it using ballistic missiles in the guise of testing nuclear weapons. You can Google operation fish bowl.
There are several videos online of Hillary Clinton saying we are under a glass ceiling right now and it has a million cracks in it. She knows what she was talking about but many standing there do not know what she was talking about.

Najdorf:

Glad the thread is back to the regular programming. The flat earth/no flat earth almost completely derailed it.

I think I'm only familiar with Roger Penrose's work.

Yea, I made a big mistake debating a low-resolution-informed flat earther (I rather would have prefered the best version of flat earth theory: it would have been fun engaging with the person to show other readers how not to do science), there are somethings that you don't debate. I should have completely ignored him when he said gravity is fake. I would also implore Spy360 to let it slide equally; It is pointless. Debating with him dignifies his position, and there are more productive ways to spend time.

As for Roger Penrose, he is a very brilliant theorist. It was him and Stephen Hawking that worked on Blackhole. Should Hawking be alive today, I do not doubt that he would have won the prize as well (I am not so sure how it would have worked out since the maximum amount of people that can receive the prize at a given year is three). Sadly, they do not give Nobel prizes posthumously. I know a bit about Andrea. She is outstanding in articulating difficult concepts to a non-technical audience without given up on accuracy: this shows her level of understanding.

Before now, great Astronomers were mostly ignored by the Nobel prize committee; otherwise, Edwin Hubble should have received the prize twice. This is analogous to the Fields medal award, where pure-mathematicians are mostly awarded as against applied-mathematicians.

Spy360:
Today is a good day to spot the planet Mars as it is very close to the moon and bright enough to be seen with the naked eyes. I just came in from sky gazing to post this. I have been monitoring the planet's moments since September and today is just so good to view it.

Beauty7

EMILO2STAY

Lovepeacetrust

Wonderful.

beauty7:


Wonderful.

There is a blue moon today/tomorrow.

A blue moon is when we experience another full moon within the same month.

Also, for planet watchers.

Right now, Mars is still very traceable as it is near the moon. It has been very visible for some time now. I believe it is very close to us as I could see it during early sunset.

Also Jupiter and Saturn are very observable right now. If the moon is at the east, trace both giants at the west. Jupiter which is bigger and nearer is the brighter one, Saturn is further. If you have a pair of binoculars you could easily see them.

Osayi90

Spy360:

There is a blue moon today/tomorrow.

A blue moon is when we experience another full moon within the same month.

Also, for planet watchers.

Right now, Mars is still very traceable as it is near the moon. It has been very visible for some time now. I believe it is very close to us as I could see it during early sunset.

Also Jupiter and Saturn are very observable right now. If the moon is at the east, trace both giants at the west. Jupiter which is bigger and nearer is the brighter one, Saturn is further. If you have a pair of binoculars you could easily see them.

Osayi90

This is very interesting and educative.

I will try to observe if possible..

Spy360:

There is a blue moon today/tomorrow.

A blue moon is when we experience another full moon within the same month.

Also, for planet watchers.

Right now, Mars is still very traceable as it is near the moon. It has been very visible for some time now. I believe it is very close to us as I could see it during early sunset.

Also Jupiter and Saturn are very observable right now. If the moon is at the east, trace both giants at the west. Jupiter which is bigger and nearer is the brighter one, Saturn is further. If you have a pair of binoculars you could easily see them.

Osayi90

I don't have binoculars, is there any other way I might observe?

Lovepeacetrust:


I don't have binoculars, is there any other way I might observe?

You can see them with your naked eyes but not the details as in for example, you wont be able to see Jupiter's 4 moons or Saturn's rings.

Spy360:

You can see them with your naked eyes but not the details as in for example, you wont be able to see Jupiter's 4 moons or Saturn's rings.

EMILO2STAY will not believe this

oscarsam:


Not theories per say, rather observations with many unanswered questions.

The first man to travel into "space" said the earth is as flat as a disk with upturned edges. He didn't use fish lens cameras. He's called Auguste Picard. Why aren't we taught about him?

He said he saw the sun and went past it till he hit water far above the sun. Why hasn't anyone explained what Picard saw or refute him in his lifetime? They simply waited till he died before they began telling lies

Bro, Auguste Picard didn't go beyond the stratosphere and the stratosphere is roughly 20km to 70km from the surface which explains why he said the Earth is a flat round shaped. So, that means he saw the entire continent of the world and landmass at once because our eyesight is infinity which he didn't see. He only saw the part cos he is slightly above the ground same way a person on a mountain will see

oscarsam:


Ships seems to disappear because they have gone beyond our line of vision. When the ship disappears, use a binoculars and you'll see the ship is still there. This has been proven severally and there are documented videos showing this fact on YouTube.
All lens created are called fish eye lens, from airplane windows to cameras and drones, check them, they all have fish lens (concave on one side) this will always produce a circular feedback.

The earth is not just hanging in space, it's fixed. It has foundations that are immovable and because the sun isn't bigger than the earth like we think, the sun actually moves from the east to west and back in a circular motion.
That's why we have different time zones.


The Earth having a round impression of the Moon is nothing but an illusion. We can attest to the fact that the very best way to ascertain the real picture of anything is through the use of a lens.
Take for example, we always tend to see a road filled with water when looking at a tiled road from a far distance. However,this doesn't mean the road is filled with water as we do see.

The reason why the ship disappeared is because it has gone beyond our line of view. It's just the rectilinear propagation of light which means that light only travels in a straight line. And no, concave lenses are not used in aeroplanes just only thick mirrors. If a concave lens is used, the image formed will be tiny and may not fall on the retina of the passengers. And the earth do cast a shadow on the moon resulting in lunar eclipse which happens when the moon completely disappears in the night sky

oscarsam:


Circumnavigation is possible due to the radioactive waves above the Earth's atmosphere.

We don't fall of because there's no bottom country, we don't fall of because the earth has [b][/b]upturned edges[b]. We are all on one plane unlike the spherical ball that has Australia at the bottom.

Pls, upturned edges as how?? If we are all on on plane, then the sun should be shining on us all at the same time, same thing for the moon. There should be no rise or fall in ocean. There should be no ocean tides.

oscarsam:


What kind of force keeps oceans at the bottom on the globe intact but allows humans swim on top of the oceans? Allows birds fly on top of the oceans but pulls down ships and let's them move on top of the ocean up side down

Why is the gravity selective in what it pulls and what it doesn't?

It's gravity, bro. And gravity doesn't work that way. The ocean has a larger surface area than the human body and the birds and ships. The gravity keeps everything on to the centre (surface) of the Earth. The higher you go, the more force you need to overcome gravity. The ocean have a larger surface area and a very little force to rise but the birds and humans are moving which means they can have some effects on how gravity affects them

oscarsam:


Sorry to say this, but the world you see today is the one programmed for you to believe.

Why not ask yourself why NASA and the likes won't show us the real pictures taken from space.
Why do they have to first Photoshop and edit the images before sharing it with us?

show us one Photoshoped image

Spy360:

You can see them with your naked eyes but not the details as in for example, you wont be able to see Jupiter's 4 moons or Saturn's rings.

why do you quote me?.
Take a telescope and see for your self what they call planets. There is no evidence of the star called Jupiter having four moons, that is ridiculous.

Compare the real images of the stars on the pictures below with what nasa gives you.

Skye123:

Bro, Auguste Picard didn't go beyond the stratosphere and the stratosphere is roughly 20km to 70km from the surface which explains why he said the Earth is a flat round shaped. So, that means he saw the entire continent of the world and landmass at once because our eyesight is infinity which he didn't see. He only saw the part cos he is slightly above the ground same way a person on a mountain will see

I would have kindly replied to all your quotes, but I no longer have the motivation to discuss anything related to flat earth theory on this forum again.
thanks for your candid understanding

Skye123:

The reason why the ship disappeared is because it has gone beyond our line of view. It's just the rectilinear propagation of light which means that light only travels in a straight line. And no, concave lenses are not used in aeroplanes just only thick mirrors. If a concave lens is used, the image formed will be tiny and may not fall on the retina of the passengers. And the earth do cast a shadow on the moon resulting in lunar eclipse which happens when the moon completely disappears in the night sky

Straight line here is completely relative too. Gravity can bend light.

Spy360:

Straight line here is completely relative too. Gravity can bend light.

there is no such thing as gravity. that thing is a hoax. it is moisture/water that bends light not gravity.
the fact that ships disappear across the horizon and at the same time can be brought back into view with binoculars is a clear cut fact that the waters are lying flat, because sight travels in a straight line just like light. this shouldn't even be a topic of argument because we all know that water does not curve and magically hang around a ball gravity or not.

EMILO2STAY:
there is no such thing as gravity. that thing is a hoax. it is moisture/water that bends light not gravity.
the fact that ships disappear across the horizon and at the same time can be brought back into view with binoculars is a clear cut fact that the waters are lying flat. because sight travels in a straight line just like light. this shouldn't even be a topic of argument because we all know that water does not curve and magically hand around a ball gravity or not.

Chai this stupid argument goes on

Najdorf:

Chai this stupid argument goes on

you can go to hell if you dont care about the argument, instead of showing ur idiocy

EMILO2STAY:
you can go to hell if you dont care about the argument, instead of showing ur idiocy

See who's talking about showing idiocy

How ironic.

Najdorf:

See who's talking about showing idiocy

How ironic.

indeed how ironic can one be when they believe not their own reality but discard it in favor of theories and fiction.. ,.. it is called strong delusion.

oscarsam:


Ships seems to disappear because they have gone beyond our line of vision. When the ship disappears, use a binoculars and you'll see the ship is still there. This has been proven severally and there are documented videos showing this fact on YouTube.
All lens created are called fish eye lens, from airplane windows to cameras and drones, check them, they all have fish lens (concave on one side) this will always produce a circular feedback.

The earth is not just hanging in space, it's fixed. It has foundations that are immovable and because the sun isn't bigger than the earth like we think, the sun actually moves from the east to west and back in a circular motion.
That's why we have different time zones.


The Earth having a round impression of the Moon is nothing but an illusion. We can attest to the fact that the very best way to ascertain the real picture of anything is through the use of a lens.
Take for example, we always tend to see a road filled with water when looking at a tiled road from a far distance. However,this doesn't mean the road is filled with water as we do see.

Is this just overzealous sarcasm or just pure ignorance? Cos it's hilarious how you take flat earth idiocy and humour to new heights.

EmperorHarry:
Is this just overzealous sarcasm or just pure ignorance? Cos it's hilarious how you take flat earth idiocy and humour to new heights.

Well, the Earth is not a perfect sphere.
In fact, the changes that take place across the Earth causes it to have a structure that is not fixed.
In other words, the way it is now is not exactly the way it was millions of years ago.
The way it will be in a million years from now won't be exactly how it is now.
Whatever shape that is ascribed to the Earth remains an approximation.

HellVictorinho:

Well, the Earth is not a perfect sphere.
In fact, the changes that take place across the Earth causes it to have a structure that is not fixed.
In other words, the way it is now is not exactly the way it was millions of years ago.
The way it will be in a million years from now won't be exactly how it is now.
Whatever shape that is ascribed to the Earth remains an approximation.

I know that(don't necessarily entirely agree) but with the overwhelming amount of evidence both observable and data based ,pointing to any shape that is not flat in any way,it's ludicrous to believe in flat earth literally. I find flat earth jokes hilarious,infact I feel they make the best space jokes,but then it started becoming a little too real as the exchanges progressed,so I had to ask cos flat earthers in Nigeria is like people who believe in big foot here in Nigeria. Too much evidence that refutes it and there's an obscure community of people that support or are enthusiastic about astronomy in general,let alone,flat earth.

Apparently I'm wrong in my conjectures as I've painfully had to scroll through vehemently regressive arguments,that have been significantly settled well after the dark ages,but I still find them clouding useful information provided here. It's shocking tbh. If you don't have useful and enlightneing information, don't post abeg. Don't ruin something so rare cos of your regressive ideological perspectives.You have groups with millions of people for and against your perspective to argue with,not here.

This was mentioned before but just wanted to add this

EmperorHarry:
I know that(don't necessarily entirely agree) but with the overwhelming amount of evidence both observable and data based ,pointing to any shape that is not flat in any way,it's ludicrous to believe in flat earth literally. I find flat earth jokes hilarious,infact I feel they make the best space jokes,but then it started becoming a little too real as the exchanges progressed,so I had to ask cos flat earthers in Nigeria is like people who believe in big foot here in Nigeria. Too much evidence that refutes it and there's an obscure community of people that support or are enthusiastic about astronomy in general,let alone,flat earth.

Apparently I'm wrong in my conjectures as I've painfully had to scroll through vehemently regressive arguments,that have been significantly settled well after the dark ages,but I still find them clouding useful information provided here. It's shocking tbh. If you don't have useful and enlightneing information, don't post abeg. Don't ruin something so rare cos of your regressive ideological perspectives.You have groups with millions of people for and against your perspective to argue with,not here.

Rubbish!!!!
I never said the Earth is flat!!!!!!!!

HellVictorinho:

Rubbish!!!!
I never said the Earth is flat!!!!!!!!

I didn't quote you before,so I don't know why you'd assume I was talking to you. Reread the from the post you first mentioned before you respond next time

EmperorHarry:
I didn't quote you before,so I don't know why you'd assume I was talking to you. Reread the from the post you first mentioned before you respond next time

Ok.