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| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:02pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:What is born of Spirit is ? A. Physical being B. Spirit being. Don't forget God is a Spirit too. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:06pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
johnw47:That reference was a reference that John the Baptist won't be in heaven. Likewise John chapter 3:1-6 was reffering to heavenly abode of God's kingdom where spirit beings live. Anyone born of spirit will become Spirit (John 3:6) . They are fashioned like Jesus who is also a Spirit being |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:12pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:Not part of the original writing. You are so desperately hooked that you wont even verify truth before posting. Eeyah I pity your condition ![]() Luke 7:28 28 I tell you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.” Least refer to position. How can John be in God's kingdom when the least person is greater than him ? The least player in Manchester City is better than Raul. Is Raul a Manchester City player ? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:13pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
Barristter07:Are you aware that all Christians are born of the spirit? 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. God is a spirit, right ? So every Christian is born of Spirit, does that mean that Christians are Spirit being? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:16pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:Explain Jesus statement that those born of spirit are Spirit A. They have holy spirit B. They have spirit/breath of life C. They will become A Spirit being and live in heaven. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:40pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
Barristter07:you are dull, how could John be in the kingdom when the kingdom is yet to come? As at the time when Jesus spoke, John was not yet in the kingdom of God, he was in the kingdom of men not God and he was the greatest amongst men, It does not mean John will not be in the kingdom. Jesus was not speaking of John's position in the kingdom but his position before men. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:42pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
Barristter07: ![]() keep talking to yourself, All Christians are born of the Spirit (God). Withcraft fraudulent society has decieved you like the serpent decieved eve. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:45pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:Lie spotted. ![]() Least is reffering to " position" He was reffering to Kingdom of God. So tell us how the least (lowest person) is greater than John if John will be there ? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:46pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:And what is born of Spirit is Spirit. . Explain Jesus statement that those born of spirit are Spirit A. They have holy spirit B. They have spirit/breath of life C. They will become A Spirit being and live in heaven. This is the final straw that will break the Camels back. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op): 2:13pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist: [s]@John 3:13, Jesus said NO MAN before Jesus himself had ascended into heaven. @Matthew 17:9, Jesus said what Peter, James and John saw was a vision. Moses and Elijah were not literally present but Christ was. They were simply represented in vision. simple because man was created to dwell in a body.According to who? Man was made to dwell in a body? Or man is the body? Which one does Genesis 2:7 agree with? FYI, that Scripture gives us the makeup of human beings. Don't bring in unscriptural ideas when making points. ... [s] how come, truth is stranger than fiction,Which one does Genesis 2:7 agree with? 1. Man is a spirit. 2. Man is a soul made from the dust of the ground. 3. Man is not just a body but has a spirit. 4. Man has an immaterial soul living inside his body. what happen to Lazarus is not relevant, not everything Jesus himself did that was recorded how much less Lazarus.You're a SCAMMER. How is it not important? Where was Lazarus after his death? If he was in heaven, why would Jesus bring him back to the earth to suffer again? REASON! Jesus never defined death as a dreamless sleep that is one of the numerous lies of witchtower secret societyGo and argue with Jesus at Luke 8:52 and John 11:11-14. @ bolded that question will be answered if you stop your denials first answer my question1Corinthians 6:2 “Or do you not know that the holy ones[144,000] will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you not competent to try very trivial matters?” 2Timothy 2:12 “if we go on enduring, we will also rule together as kings; if we deny, he will also deny us” Revelation 20:4 “And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years. ” From the above, who will the holy ones[144,000] rule over as kings and judge for the 1,000years? Simple question! |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 8:10pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:Bros ,Continue to type POO. You are LYING and DECEIVING yourself that 1 Corinthians15:45,47-48 doesn't exist. 45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.”But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. [/b]46 What comes first is the natural body, then the spiritual body comes later. [b]47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven. 48 Earthly people are like the earthly man, and heavenly people are like the heavenly man." |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 8:17pm On Nov 05, 2020*. Modified: 8:38pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
Ken4Christ:Your Jesus is God, Does God have flesh and bones ? Your Jesus is God Almighty, who raised Almighty God from death ? ![]() |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 8:35pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
Janosky:Okkk This is funny ![]() God Almighty is said to servant to Almighty God oo ![]() |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:08pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
DappaD:yes they were literally present there is no reason to believe otherwise. According to who? Man was made to dwell in a body? Or man is the body? Which one does Genesis 2:7 agree with?it is watch tower that teaches unscriptural ideas. Man comprises of body soul and Spirit that is the biblical stand point. Man possesses a body, and can be called a body because he resides in it. ... Which one does Genesis 2:7 agree with?man can not be called a spirit because he dwells in a body. You're a SCAMMER. How is it not important? Where was Lazarus after his death? If he was in heaven, why would Jesus bring him back to the earth to suffer again? REASON!garbage as usual |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:24pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
Janosky: lie lie Adam was the father of all mankind that is why they bear his image.My question is still pending. Whose image did those other Christians bear? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op): 10:10pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:Isaiah saw visions of Jehovah's heavenly throne as well as other angels—seraphs around Him.(Isaiah 6:1-6) Was Isaiah literally present in heaven? it is watch tower that teaches unscriptural ideas.Was it Watchtower that put Genesis 2:7 in your Bible? Genesis 2:7 explains that MAN himself is the body created from the dust. There are two conditions. When the breath of life is in him, he is a living soul. When it is not, he is a dead soul. That is why Jehovah told Adam, that HE himself(the body&soul) that was created from the dust WOULD return to the dust.(Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 3:20-21, 12:7) There is no immaterial spirit living inside a man. Those are just your imaginations from your Nollywood movies. garbage as usualOkay so your brain can't carry that one abi? No wahala ![]() |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:15pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
DappaD:yes he was really present in heaven. Was it Watchtower that put Genesis 2:7 in your Bible? Genesis 2:7 explains that MAN himself is the body created from the dust. There are two conditions. When the breath of life is in him, he is a living soul. When it is not, he is a dead soul. That is why Jehovah told Adam, that HE himself(the body&soul) that was created from the dust WOULD return to the dust.(Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 3:20-21, 12:7)what was taken from the dust was it not the body? The spirit was not taken from dust. Okay so your brain can't carry that one abi? No wahalayou are right my brain does not carry nonsense. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op): 10:29pm On Nov 05, 2020 |
livingchrist:So Isaiah will be branching heaven like it's his backyard abi ![]() Mr man don't deceive yourself. Isaiah was on earth when he received those prophetic visions.(Isaiah 6:1-6) what was taken from the dust was it not the body? The spirit was not taken from dust.Uncle, the man is the body. Stop deceiving yourself with tales told by moonlight. Which of the ‘spirit’ is inside man according to Genesis 2:7 & Psalm 146:4? 1. Angel 2. Breath of life 3. Holy spirit you are right my brain does not carry nonsense.You'll never see any JW here back out from a discussion(we'll leave only when it becomes a heated argument/sarcasm is employed). If you think you measure up to Witnesses, try and put up a show. At least show you have reasonable content, instead of using excuses to show your emptiness. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 10:47pm On Nov 05, 2020*. Modified: 1:57am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Barristter07:confused lie lie barrister stick to what i said, and not diverting to other things when shown wrong like cowards do i already showed you the verses are about spirit beings in heaven being greater than flesh beings on earth, even greater than John, who Jesus called the greatest born you of course lied yet again saying: " John the Baptist won't be in God's kingdom" Barristter07: johnw47:lie lie barrister you also made out that i didn't know heaven is part of God's Kingdom, so duh, and you continue to run away from being shown to be a habitual liar, changing to things i never spoke about Barristter07:Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. the verse is talking of the least(spirit person) in the kingdom of heaven being greater than john the greatest (flesh, born of woman) person on earth, oh most duh know nothing, twister of God's word, lie lie barrister |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:12pm On Nov 06, 2020 |
I told you from the beginning that i just don't believe blindly, i'm with Jehovah's Witnesses organization today because they proved to be the one and only true Christian group. Just present a better performing group, all these ranting is just like noise making! ![]() johnw47: |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 10:46pm On Nov 06, 2020*. Modified: 12:25am On Nov 07, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:false jw mad max a better performing group than yours, laughing a better performing group than yours who have falsely prophesied so many times a better performing group that yours that change their mind on issues so many times etc. etc. you are of course blinded 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. there is no more self righteous group than yours though, i give you that johnw47: |
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| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:55am On Nov 07, 2020 |
Just let me know if you've found something better! ![]() johnw47: |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:41am On Nov 07, 2020*. Modified: 8:06am On Nov 07, 2020 |
[sup][/sup] DappaD:Isaiah saw heaven right? The things he saw were real. The transfiguration on the mount was real, moses and Elias were there with Jesus. They bible said the talked with Jesus, The Spirit of man is not an angel or the breath of life neither is it the Holy Spirit. The spirit of man is within him, 1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. The spirit of man is in the midst of his body Daniel 7:15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me. The spirit of man was said to be formed within man but the breath of God was breathed into the man. Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. The breath of life is simply the activating power to enable man to live [b][s]You'll never see any JW here back out from a discussion(we'll leave only when it becomes a heated argument/sarcasm is employed).I present facts from the bible not so concocted nonsense by watch tower. You argue against the truth because you are blind and bereft of the fear of God which is the beginning of wisdom. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 8:13am On Nov 07, 2020 |
livingchrist:Who is born of spirit is spirit.... And he agreed that God is that spirit Who is born of flesh is flesh.... You should have asked him that: Who is that FLESH that the people who will live forever on earth will be born from? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 8:24am On Nov 07, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:false jw mad max i have found the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ someone you habitual liars and perverts don't have Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. johnw47: false jw mad max johnw47: false jw org said via watchtower: |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45am On Nov 07, 2020 |
It's OK there's no need of name calling, you've found something you cherish and i myself have found something i treasure, so worship your God and i'll worship mine no wahala! ![]() johnw47: |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 10:41am On Nov 07, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:false jw mad max of course i will contine to worship the one and only Almighty God and you will contunue to treasure your god the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. you so duh |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:54am On Nov 07, 2020 |
Emusan:another angle Cc barrister, who is the flesh that people who will live for ever will be born from? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:08pm On Nov 07, 2020 |
The last Adam! 1Corinthians 15:45 Jesus was born in the flesh as a human, and he is sinless. There's no need of Jesus coming if Adam had lived a sinless life. Since Jesus live both in flesh and spirit he became everlasting father for those who will continue to live in the flesh as well as those who will live as spirits. He did what Adam supposed to do which is give wise counsel to all his children, that's what made him a Wonderful Counselor {Isaiah 9:6} So Jesus lived as a sinless descendant of Adam (human) {Luke 3:23,38} hence he qualified to write off our sins with his blood! Psalms 49:7-9 livingchrist: |
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