Jozzy4:

You are very dull sha, ever since you re asked the form of angels and you replied God Almighty , am not shocked anymore.

C'mon, hide behind authority na.
Tell me the only difference between God and Angel Gabriel is some staff of authority

Blabbermouth:

C'mon, hide behind authority na.
Tell me the only difference between God and Angel Gabriel is some staff of authority

Which form is Angel Gabriel ?

Jozzy4:


Which form is Angel Gabriel ?

Angel Gabriel is God almighty 3.
Angel Michael is God almighty 2.

I warned you from the beginning, learn!
Lion is in natural form
Human is in natural form
The above does not equate that a lion is in human form
Piece that together and come into cognizance of truth.
You see your fall now?

Blabbermouth:
I've gotten it now!
This was what happened;
BEFORE GENESIS 1:1
A committee of Gods having no beginning and no end sat down and reasoned among themselves - we need a leader. With time, these Gods, of which each one of them can create (call anything into existence), have all-knowing knowledge and the ability to even be everywhere (if they want to be) concluded that they needed a God Almighty.
Just like the 2020 US election, they decided to use an electoral college system.
The outcome of the result was that someone name [name removed] won by electoral votes but A God named [name removed] won with popular votes.
After the election, they coronate one of them to be God Almighty and every other Gods became subjected to this God Almighty as Angels.
Unfortunately, the other God that lost with popular votes wasn't happy and he even had a lot of other Gods defect to the party of the God that won. For this, he decided to cause a lot of commotion, this is why he is now popularly referred to as Devil.
Clap for me guys!
Shebi we want to hide behind authority na, oya let's hide.

seems you took a break from the leave
Taló bere itan

Is Authority the same as Nature?
Almighty - Authority
Nature - Spirit

1.2 go
you go taya oo

Blabbermouth:

Angel Gabriel is God almighty 3.
Angel Michael is God almighty 2.

I warned you from the beginning, learn!
Lion is in natural form
Human is in natural form
The above does not equate that a lion is in human form
Piece that together and come into cognizance of truth.
You see your fall now?

Okay which scripture said so ?

haddeylium:

seems you took a break from the leave
Taló bere itan


Is Authority the same as Nature?
Almighty - Authority
Nature - Spirit

1.2 go
you go taya oo

Thank you @bold
Anything to lash on to cover his shame.

Jozzy4:

Okay which scripture said so ?

Barristter07 chapter 9 vs 27.

Jozzy4:

Thank you @bold
Anything to lash on to cover his shame.

We thrashed that already.
I just enlightened you that the difference between Gabriel and Jehovah is not just some Scepter or title of "Almighty".

Blabbermouth:

You think say na beans to be A living Deity like Yahweh?
Authority doesn't give you the exclusive creation right!
Authority doesn't give you exclusive omnipotent right!
Authority doesn't give you No Beginning and No End!
Authority doesn't give you immeasurable wisdom!
Authority doesn't give you Infinite knowledge!
Authority doesn't give you Divinity's understanding!

It is the other way round - Exclusive creation right, Omnipotency, Divine nature, No beginning and no end, Immeasurable Wisdom, Infinite knowlege, Uncompassibility, understand and infinity of dimensions gives you the Authority!

Jozzy4, read again.

Blabbermouth:

Barristter07 chapter 9 vs 27.

You are sounding foolish already bro
Quote the post where he said so .

Blabbermouth:

We thrashed that already.
I just enlightened you that the difference between Gabriel and Jehovah is not just some Scepter or title of "Almighty".

Rest, Does Gabriel and JEHOVAH exist as Spirit persons ?

Jozzy4:

You are sounding foolish already bro
Quote the post where he said so .

Lol.
Wise man.

Jozzy4:


Rest, Does Gabriel and JEHOVAH exist as Spirit persons ?

Gabriel is God Almighty na

I don't have the time to repeat myself again and again bro.

Okay. Let me leave for real now.

Okay. Let me leave for real now. Gotta get busy with better things.

Jozzy, help your brother apply a nice bandage on his bruised head. I even thought he will be able to bruise my heels before the head smashing.

Blabbermouth:

Gabriel is God Almighty na
I don't have the time to repeat myself again and again bro.

Nope u lied .

Blabbermouth:

Lol.
Wise man.

Oga quote where he said so and stop lying up and down .

Blabbermouth:
Okay. Let me leave for real now. Gotta get busy with better things.

Jozzy, help your brother apply a nice bandage on his bruised head. I even thought he will be able to bruise my heels before the head smashing.

He bruised you , If you need oil, gonna help you apply it on the wounds. The wounds so big you start Forming lies on his head. Damn deep

Jozzy4:

Lol
Not suprised . Currently he can't dispute that those born of spirit will share God's nature and form, it's a banker . His new blackmail is to equate them to God Almighty in his head.

Abi oo
I think the only part Blabbermouth is missing entirely is that the anointed Christians[born of spirit] will ONLY receive the crown of immortal life as spirit creatures if they remain faithful til death [Hebrews 3:14, 2Peter 1:10] Like that's the condition he's totally missing but since he has no zeal to learn or change, he saw fit to throw his usual childish tantrums.

Jozzy4:


Haydellium said your thinking is low for not knowing the difference between nature and authority, he was right. Show me where Barrister 07 said Angels and those born of spirit is God Almighty ? Or forever remain silent as a liar you are

for real? HahaHaha so the difference between God Almighty and those born of spirit is authority?

Authority is the right to do something
Nature is what something is

It mean if God is All powerful then those born of Spirit are also all powerful but they dont have right to use their power.
That is so gross

haddeylium:


You sha like it when Jw spoon-feed you

In Nature, Jehovah and the Angels are the same (Spirit)
But in Authority, Only Jehovah is Almighty!

Do you copy?

this is funny! So if Jehovah and Angels are same Spirit then by nature Jehovah is an angelic creature.

That means Jehovah is not the only true God

Satan has duped you people

Jozzy4:


Produce where Barristter07 said Angels are Almighty God ? Or remain a liar

Is God Almightiness base on his nature or his authority?
If from his authority, where does God's authority come from?
What is the meaning of Jehovah?
Does the name Jehovah speak of his nature or his authority?

Going by the logic of these Jehovah witness, God Almighty is not the only true God.

Buhari has the highest authority in Nigeria but he is not the only true human.

The logic is so simple and clear
Is Godhood by nature or by authority?
Let the bible answer for itself,

Galatians 4:8
Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.


Godhood is by nature,

If Angels has same nature as God then Jehovah is not the only true God.

DappaD:


Abi oo
I think the only part Blabbermouth is missing entirely is that the anointed Christians[born of spirit] will ONLY receive the crown of immortal life as spirit creatures if they remain faithful til death [Hebrews 3:14, 2Peter 1:10] Like that's the condition he's totally missing but since he has no zeal to learn or change, he saw fit to throw his usual childish tantrums.

A quick question for you do devils have same nature as God, since they are spirits?

Death is the wages sin pays {Romans 6:23} that means when a person dies he/she has fully paid for his/her sin. Romans 6:7
Jesus' death is not to pay for the calamity wicked people brought upon themselves, it was Adamic sin that necessitate Jesus' death as a sacrifice for sin.
Wickedness we're talking about is a result of the circumstances Adam's rebellious act put all of us, for instance if we don't grow old and die, there is no need for anxieties because whatever you plan to have will surely be yours as long as you're hail and healthy for thousands of years.
But out of desperation to manage the little time we have in achieving so much leads many into stealing, fraud, money ritual, prostitution and other evil things.
So Jesus' ransom sacrifice is to remove the main enemy DEATH {1Corinthians 15:26} with oldage and death out of the way, it will be easy to distinguish between rebellious ones like Adam from those who are carried away by the anxieties of life! Luke 21:34
Note that there was nothing mounting pressure on Adam to make him rebel against his Creator, that's why the Bible said he (Adam) was not deceived unlike Eve {1Timothy 2:14} this makes it obvious that God doesn't judge deceived ones like those who deliberately chose to do evil.
As for resurrection God's word says "there is going to be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous" Act 24:15
The ones declared righteous never met the degree God set which is listening and acting on the counsel given by God's only begotten SON {John 3:16} so they're not yet free from sin as they've not declared Jesus as Lord and saviour {Romans 2:8} that declaration was based on their fine works {James 2:21} through which faith could be justified but they've not put faith in Jesus for real.
The unrighteous are people who lived in other parts of the earth by conscience, these ones though never heard from God like Abraham but they do things that proves they could have been obedient if they knew God's rules {Romans 2:15} so God still counts them as unrighteous since they never knew him.
As for people who deliberately chose to be wicked, they will be removed from the earth {Psalms 37:9 compare to Proverbs 2:21-22}
So real wicked people will not be resurrected! Psalms 9:17 compared to Matthew 10:28
Thanks and God bless you!

livingchrist:

By saying the dead pay for their sin, it would mean Jesus death is irrelevant, why should Jesus die if, everyone who dies pay for their sin

Maximus, I see that your group believes that some set of people will be raised to live for a thousand years. There, they will be given a second Chance to walk right with God or remain like they are.
Can I know how you came about this belief?

[Ps: I replied you concerning the 1 day = 1,000 years but the bot clamped it. No time to start writing again, we will iron that if it comes on again in another discussion]

MaxInDHouse:

As for resurrection God's word says "there is going to be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous" Act 24:15
The ones declared righteous never met the degree God set which is listening and acting on the counsel given by God's only begotten SON {John 3:16} so they're not yet free from sin as they've not declared Jesus as Lord and saviour {Romans 2:8} that declaration was based on their fine works {James 2:21} through which faith could be justified but they've not put faith in Jesus for real.
The unrighteous are people who lived in other parts of the earth by conscience, these ones though never heard from God like Abraham but they do things that proves they could have been obedient if they knew God's rules {Romans 2:15} so God still counts them as unrighteous since they never knew him.
As for people who deliberately chose to be wicked, they will be removed from the earth {Psalms 37:9 compare to Proverbs 2:21-22}
So real wicked people will not be resurrected! Psalms 9:17 compared to Matthew 10:28
Thanks and God bless you!

livingchrist:

Revelation 20:4-5 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

They will rule with Christ Jesus!
It's just a pity that you don't know the meaning of rule with Christ my friend, for your information it simply means whoever had the opportunity of meeting these anointed ones or those they're supervising and disregard them has been judged already! Matthew 10:13-15
So if you have no opportunity of meeting with the first century anointed ones, you need to IDENTIFY those acting in their place today because judgment is ongoing presently, whoever disregards them has been condemned! Matthew 16:19
Imagine an Israelite who disregard the first century Apostles simply because he didn't know they are representatives of the Christ whom all their forefathers has been expecting!
Jesus said "such a person has been judged already" {John 3:18} so it's not a matter of "i don't know them" that's why Jesus emphasized much on the IDENTITY of his real followers {Matthew 5:13-16, 7:16-18; John 13:34-35 }

The only people that will experience the first resurrection are those who were killed for the gospel sake, and those who did not accept the mark of the beast every other dead did not live until the 1000 years ended
Lie lie

The first resurrection means those who will be raised as spirit beings, they can not die again since they're heading to heaven immediately as they rise from the dead. The rest are those who will be resurrected as flesh, they can still die because Satan will be released to tempt them after the 1,000 years of intense training from the Christians amongst them.
God's word said they are not alive until the thousand years were ended because God doesn't count this life we are living now as the real life {1Timothy 6:19} since death still reign on earth! Romans 5:17
It's when God declares everlasting life [Revelation 21:3-4} that he refers to those on earth as living, until then all are still like walking corpse! Matthew 8:22
Thanks and God bless you!

Jozzy4:


Jesus wasn't born of Spirit . Jesus was born by spirit and a woman .

This birth has nothing to do with a woman.

It means Jesus has two nature!

Very nice!

OK Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT and A WOMAN....Jozzy4 2020

Then what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

Well it's by reading, studying, meditating and praying on what is found in God's word!
We believe God's word doesn't contradict itself so there must be links to solve the riddles or sacred secrets found in God's word!
All humans are supposed to undergo training the Christ will oversee as he reigns in Jerusalem to send preachers and teachers to all the parts of the earth in order for people to gain the knowledge that leads to everlasting life.
But since the Israelites themselves condemned him, he decides to take his corulers to another destination, from there they will supervise the training program which must last for 1,000 years.
Of course it will be easier for persons like Abel and others who knew God before to take in this counsel but it will be difficult for those who never knew anything about God since such ones lived by conscience alone.
So it's written there in your own copy of the Bible but if you think there is no specific group that's given the spirit to teach people these sacred secrets {Daniel 12:10} then we will just walk away to the next door!

Blabbermouth:

Maximus, I see that your group believes that some set of people will be raised to live for a thousand years. There, they will be given a second Chance to walk right with God or remain like they are.
Can I know how you came about this belief?

Barristter07:
Jesus birth through Mary didn't make him born of spirit. He was just born BY spirit.

Another one

Jesus was just BORN BY SPIRIT....Barristter07 2020

What then is to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

If born of spirit is birth through a Woman without intercourse, Nicodemus would have been right when he said entering a woman's womb.

Olodo....of the century!

Jesus statement to Nicodemus was you must be BORN AGAIN which Nicodemus presume to be ENTERING WOMB the second time which Jesus then clarified that, No! You must be born of spirit and water.

So being born of spirit means the Birth is through the Agent of the Holy Spirit.

Now, you agreed Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT....

So what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRT?

But you should know better , so much for a poor student of the Bible.

So you agree I'm a student of the Bible.

If only you had payed attention , What is born of flesh is flesh, does that mean The Flesh is born immediately the sperm is hatched, it takes stages and process, 9 month pregnancy, then an human is born

Just as @Blabbermouth said, if you don't understand something, you ask!

Born OF FLESH means we are a PRODUCT of FLESH

That's the point.

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

What is born of Spirit is Spirit does not mean they are spirit beings on Earth, they had to Even prove Faithful before getting that adoption , it's a New kind of birth , which result in *A Spirit being

So ALL JEHOVAH WITNESS are not FAITHFUL but only those who will reign with Christ are faithful, that's nice.

This brings us back to my point.

At what point were they Born of Spirit?
1. During their life on earth
2. After they died

See this dubious entity....

So BORN OF SPIRIT "is a NEW KIND OF BIRTH"

can you see how he finally agreed with my initial point that BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT is a NEW BIRTH every believers must under go before reigning with Christ.

So how can a NEW birth be suddenly change to RESURRECTED to A SPIRIT BEING? is where you need to explain.

This is why that point , " Is Spirit " is crucial .

And exactly why you are running away from it

Yes it is, but you must first tell us WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN OF SPIRIT.

Emusan:
Wasn't human Jesus BORN OF SPIRIT? Does it make human Jesus to be spirit being on earth?

If God is a spirit and EVERYONE who believes Jesus is CHRIST is born of God. Are they not supposed to be a spirit being?

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

"¹⁵“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?”
¹⁶Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
¹⁷Jesus replied,
“Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah!
For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven."
- Matthew 16:15-17

Every human being essentially is a spirit being activated in a soul, housed/tabernacled in a human being flesh body, but at the moment, having and living a earth experience in a divinely ordained legal and legitimate capacity

Yahshua Ha Mashiasch, aka Jesus Christ, is Jesus, with a meaning of, God/Yahweh saves, while Christ, has the meaning of, the Anointed One (i.e. the One who is anointed to execute GodYahweh's salvation plan) so affirmative, Jesus, is the Christ. He is the Messiah

Jozzy4:
Jesus wasn't born of Spirit. Jesus was born by spirit and a woman .

This birth has nothing to do with a woman.

"³⁰So the angel told her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
³¹Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus.
- Luke 1:30-31

The whole plan of salvation, redemption and reconciliation would have been in jeopardy and a showstopper, without the co-operation of the woman as the woman is a necessary factor in the QED computation of the "plan of salvation, redemption and reconciliation" equation. If Mary had declined or refused to co-operate, God simply would have moved on to the next willing and available woman because the protoevangelium plan of salvation, redemption and reconciliation show, according to Genesis 3:15, MUST go on.

Emusan:
OK Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT and A WOMAN....Jozzy4 2020

Then what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

There are two great days in a person's life. The day you are physically born and the day you are born again (i.e. born of spirit or born from on high above)

As an already fallen from grace human being, when you're born again, your DNA radically changes. You begin to, like Nicodemus, see, and soon afterwards, inquisitively step forward, albeit in the middle of the night, just as like Nicodemus did, under the cover of secrecy, to enquire and learn about all what you've been observing, and equally similarly, begin to do like how Nicodemus, was led, to confess with his own mouth that the demonstrations of divine power he's witnessed, seen and/or heard about, can only mean they come from God et cetera. The ability, to begin, unravelling and understanding the mysteries of God is another payload of luxury or dividend for being born again.

livingchrist:
this is funny! So if Jehovah and Angels are same Spirit then by nature Jehovah is an angelic creature.

That means Jehovah is not the only true God

Satan has duped you people

Get yourself some English class on YouTube... it's free

Check for the meaning of Authority/Almighty , Nature/Spirit.

The nature of God is SPIRIT, so are the Angels!

In Authority, only JEHOVAH is Almighty!
The Angels are Messengers!


BUHARI Nature is being a Human ( with flesh and blood). So are you!
But, in Authority, He's the only President!


In regards to Nigeria, Is BUHARI the only true President?
Think!