Janosky:


Matthew 5:5, did Jesus Christ teach you that spirits will inherit the earth?

John 16:16-18, did the disciples understand everything Jesus taught them?

Bros, Consign your post to the dustbin.

John 16:16-18, did the disciples understand everything Jesus taught them?

rottennaija:


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https://www.nairaland.com/6157851/after-jesus-resurrection-body-flesh/67#96104348

With reference to the above WT teaching (now consigned to the dustbin in your kind words), when you say something is fact, it means "it is known or proved to be true." If it were not fact, then it wasn't true. WT religion lays exclusive claim to truth and being led by God's spirit, it says other religion are false. For such a religion to claims something to be fact and then decades later, it's follower and prime supporter dismissed such believes as "not having a proper understanding of Jesus teachings", begs the question, did the religion have God's spirit when they taught such as fact? Are they really faithful, discreet?

Let me tell you something my erudite Janosky , should you have a messenger who goes around tell people things, calling it fact or truth, demanding absolute loyalty to the message and destruction to those who question/reject it, but it later turns out from the track record of the messenger, that its messages have always have k-legs, you should really apply Psalm 146:3-7, 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 John 4:1-6. Let me also let you on a big secret, your beloved religion and its' governing body is never going to ask to to test their message against the bible. Now ask yourself, if you meet a church goes who tells you his religious leader forbids him from investigating his religion, what impression will that leave you?

You asked citing Jn 16:16-18


The answer is no. Jesus disciples didn't understand everything he taught. But did they go around teaching people things they didn't understand calling it facts? When you do not understand or really know something, you call it your opinion, stating clearly that you don't have fact about it. When in the future, new pieces of information comes into play, you can incorporate such into what you already said. Obviously, you refrain from the use of the normal "light gets brighter" excused. But you should understand this about facts, truth and God's spirit...

Russell eloquently wrote in the WT article...

"If we were following a man undoubtedly it would be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as darkness now;… But with God there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is with truth; any knowledge or light coming from God must be like its author. A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New Light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it…" Zion's Watch Tower 1881 Feb pp.3,188

When you call something facts, you mean you know it to be truth.

However, as it turns out to be, based on current believes of your religion, it was not fact, it was not true or truth. If you are trying to use the excuse of not understanding at the time, how is the governing body of JWs faithful and discreet when they go about teaching things do they not "understand" as fact when it is not? Is it really discreet (wise) to ask for unquestioning loyalty to itself and it's teaching when they do not teach truth?

For example, despite clear departure from bible teaching and despite being reminded and told such teaching is from the devil and is false, they continue the falsehood that Jesus is not a mediator for millions even billions of humans (but only for a few selected people themselves inclusive), based on their false believes of heaven/earth dichotomy. This apostate, false teaching was introduced around the 1980s by WT VP Fred Franz. Since that time till date, it has been the duty of those whom the organization named tag "apostate" to teach JWs that such believe goes against what the bible teaches. In the future, a new governing body will track back to bible teaching that Jesus is the mediator for all humans, then, that time you will claim they did not understand everything.

Have you seen this WT article title "Changes That Disturb People" before? https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101970282?q=Now+the+pope+and+our+priests+are+telling+us+this+is+not+the+way+to+believe+any+more&p=par

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12694343_changesthatdisturbpeople_jpeg5b891ed73d7e05a04b1958effc38a680

Using WT words, Ask your bible students, “how can you have confidence in anything? How can I believe in the Bible, in God, or have faith? Just 10, 20, 50 years ago, JWs believe they had the absolute truth, they put all their faith in this. Now the current governing body and the organization are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe ‘new things.’ How do I know the ‘new things’ will be the truth in 5, 10, 20 years?”



Scholar Jozzy4
Erudite Janosky
Emusan
achorladey
maxindhouse
Barristter07

Emusan:


FLESHLY HUMANS is your insertion not from that verse... liar!

Many translations used PEOPLE
No wonder I do say you people lack simple comprehension.

What was God's demanded from them?
He said they should BUILD HIM A HOLY SANCTUARY before He(God) can live with them.
But in Revelation God's HOME that is His abode is with PEOPLE.

And the seal of God that makes them become a spirit being bah

Your brain is actually on sleeping mode.
In resurrection there is only one thing that happened "sowed in NATURAL BODY and RAISES A SPIRITUAL BODY"

Jesus rose with a GLORIFIED BODY which is SPIRITUAL.
Where did I agree or say Jesus rose with a SPIRIT BODY?

Janosky:


Yes.

The Scriptures gives us instances where Jehovah's servants practice and teaching stuffs contrary to the Scriptures.
The disciples said and believed the kingdom will arrive immediately.
Is that the teaching of Jesus Christ ?

The disciples were teaching that "there is no resurrection of the dead"
Is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?

Peter led some believers "astray" & deviated from "the truth of the gospel", is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?
Have you deleted Peter from God's kingdom?

Prophet Samuel said Jehovah anointed Eliab, Bros , was Samuel truthful ?

In the holy Scriptures, which sin Jehovah's servants never commit ?
Whatever mistakes Jehovah's servants made or make, JWs will continue to serve Jehovah our God.
Imperfect servants of Jehovah naim we be (the public already knows) in the past and present.
You hear ?

As our imperfections dey cause you Sifia pains & incurable headaches,
Bros, go run your own paroll with Rott Wailer & the saints.

Janosky:


Yes.

The Scriptures gives us instances where Jehovah's servants practice and teaching stuffs contrary to the Scriptures.
The disciples said and believed the kingdom will arrive immediately.
Is that the teaching of Jesus Christ ?

The disciples were teaching that "there is no resurrection of the dead"
Is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?

Peter led some believers "astray" & deviated from "the truth of the gospel", is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?
Have you deleted Peter from God's kingdom?

Prophet Samuel said Jehovah anointed Eliab, Bros , was Samuel truthful ?

In the holy Scriptures, which sin Jehovah's servants never commit ?
Whatever mistakes Jehovah's servants made or make, JWs will continue to serve Jehovah our God.
Imperfect servants of Jehovah naim we be (the public already knows) in the past and present.
You hear ?

As our imperfections dey cause you Sifia pains & incurable headaches,
Bros, go run your own paroll with Rott Wailer & the saints.

" Finally , brothers , continue... to be readjusted " 2Corinthians 13:11 well done brother

DappaD:

Was I the one who inserted MANKIND into Revelation 21:3? So the ‘mankind’ there is different from the one in Genesis 5:2? i.e. the makeup of this ‘mankind’ is no longer flesh and blood?



But the Greek word found in Revelation 21:3 is ἀνθρώπων(anthropos) which translates to mankind with flesh and blood.



Your lies have caught up with you this time LOL! So the “I will reside among them” in Exodus 25:8 is different from the one in Revelation 21:3? Please don't make me laugh.


There's a LOT—as in a LOT you need to know!
Paul, Peter, John in their letters were addressing ONLY those whom Jehovah's holy spirit has sealed/anointed to be given a new birth as immortal spirit creatures!—2Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13, 1Peter 1:23, 2Peter 1:4,10, 1John 2:2 and compare with Revelation 7:3



Revelation 20:5 says the resurrection of those born again/anointed Christians whom are part of the 144,000 and have died is the FIRST resurrection. Compare with 1Thess 4:16-17 and 1Corinthians 15:23,51-53
Acts 24:15 mentions the resurrection of just/righteous and unjust/unrighteous ones on earth and that implies that there will be a second, third and so forth.
Unless you're saying unrighteous ones partake in the first resurrection to have immortal spirit bodies too? Smh.


You go just dey dribble yourself everytime
So in your dictionary,
SPIRITUAL BODY ≠ SPIRIT BODY abi? If it's not the same why have you and your partners making noise about John 3:6?
Till now none of you have been able to debunk 1Peter 3:18 that says Jesus rose as a spirit body.

Emusan embrace truth for once you won't die! Tufia!

Janosky:


Yes.

The Scriptures gives us instances where Jehovah's servants practice and teaching stuffs contrary to the Scriptures.
The disciples said and believed the kingdom will arrive immediately.
Is that the teaching of Jesus Christ ?

The disciples were teaching that "there is no resurrection of the dead"
Is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?

Peter led some believers "astray" & deviated from "the truth of the gospel", is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?
Have you deleted Peter from God's kingdom?

Prophet Samuel said Jehovah anointed Eliab, Bros , was Samuel truthful ?

In the holy Scriptures, which sin Jehovah's servants never commit ?
Whatever mistakes Jehovah's servants made or make, JWs will continue to serve Jehovah our God.
Imperfect servants of Jehovah naim we be (the public already knows) in the past and present.
You hear ?

As our imperfections dey cause you Sifia pains & incurable headaches,
Bros, go run your own paroll with Rott Wailer & the saints.

Barristter07:


" Finally , brothers , continue... to be readjusted " 2Corinthians 13:11 well done brother

Janosky:


Matthew 5:5, did Jesus Christ teach you that spirits will inherit the earth?

John 16:16-18, did the disciples understand everything Jesus taught them?

Bros, Consign your post to the dustbin.

rottennaija:


www.nairaland.com/attachments/12689869_greatcrowdheavenlywt1927jan15p20_png956f99ad9ab4db6147eb2b44397b52fa

https://www.nairaland.com/6157851/after-jesus-resurrection-body-flesh/67#96104348

With reference to the above WT teaching (now consigned to the dustbin in your kind words), when you say something is fact, it means "it is known or proved to be true." If it were not fact, then it wasn't true. WT religion lays exclusive claim to truth and being led by God's spirit, it says other religion are false. For such a religion to claims something to be fact and then decades later, it's follower and prime supporter dismissed such believes as "not having a proper understanding of Jesus teachings", begs the question, did the religion have God's spirit when they taught such as fact? Are they really faithful, discreet?

Let me tell you something my erudite Janosky , should you have a messenger who goes around tell people things, calling it fact or truth, demanding absolute loyalty to the message and destruction to those who question/reject it, but it later turns out from the track record of the messenger, that its messages have always have k-legs, you should really apply Psalm 146:3-7, 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 John 4:1-6. Let me also let you on a big secret, your beloved religion and its' governing body is never going to ask to to test their message against the bible and other research sources. Now ask yourself, if you meet a church goer who tells you his religious leader forbids him from investigating his religion, what impression will that leave you?

You asked citing Jn 16:16-18


The answer is no. Jesus disciples didn't understand everything he taught. But did they go around teaching people things they didn't understand calling it facts? When you do not understand or really know something, you call it your opinion, stating clearly that you don't have fact about it. When in the future, new pieces of information comes into play, you can incorporate such into what you already said. Obviously, you refrain from the use of the normal "light gets brighter" excused. But you should understand this about facts, truth and God's spirit...

Russell eloquently wrote in the WT article...

"If we were following a man undoubtedly it would be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as darkness now;… But with God there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is with truth; any knowledge or light coming from God must be like its author. A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New Light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it…" Zion's Watch Tower 1881 Feb pp.3,188

When you call something facts, you mean you know it to be truth.

However, as it turns out to be, based on current believes of your religion, it was not fact, it was not true or truth. If you are trying to use the excuse of not understanding at the time, how is the governing body of JWs faithful and discreet when they go about teaching as fact things they do not "understand", when it is not? Is it really discreet (wise) to ask for unquestioning loyalty to itself and it's teaching when they do not teach truth?

For example, despite clear departure from bible teaching and despite being reminded and told such teaching is from the devil and is false, they continue the falsehood that Jesus is not a mediator for millions even billions of humans (but only for a few selected people themselves inclusive), based on their false believes of heaven/earth dichotomy. This apostate, false teaching was introduced around the 1980s by WT VP Fred Franz. Since that time till date, it has been the duty of those whom the organization named tag "apostate" to teach JWs that such believe goes against what the bible teaches. In the future, a new governing body will track back to bible teaching that Jesus is the mediator for all humans, then, that time you will claim they did not understand everything.

Have you seen this WT article title "Changes That Disturb People" before? https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101970282?q=Now+the+pope+and+our+priests+are+telling+us+this+is+not+the+way+to+believe+any+more&p=par

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12694343_changesthatdisturbpeople_jpeg5b891ed73d7e05a04b1958effc38a680

Using WT words, Ask your bible students, “how can you have confidence in anything? How can you believe in the Bible, in God, or have faith? Just 10, 20, 50 years ago, JWs believe they had the absolute truth, they put all their faith in this. Now the current governing body and the organization are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe ‘new things.’ How do I know the ‘new things’ will be the truth in 5, 10, 20 years?”



Scholar Jozzy4
Erudite Janosky
Emusan
achorladey
maxindhouse
Barristter07

MaxInDHouse:

The word "GOD" has so many meaning that is why JEHOVAH used the Bible to introduce himself to humans. Before he called Abraham out of Ur many people have started calling on his name in a wrong way (use his name for different forms of worship). So he need to make himself distinct from those rebellious angels impersonating him since all those demons are claiming GOD and millions were worshipping them.


I love this question!
Psalms 83:18 says "That people may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth"
This simply means that there are many other Gods people worship in other places but the one and only true God is JEHOVAH the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob all other Gods are deceptive spirits (demons) impersonating GOD. Even God's word acknowledged Satan as a mighty spirit being who has become the God worshipped by majority of Earth's inhabitants! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19


NO! Remember Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (a one time world power) declared after been an eyewitness of the mightiness of the God of Israel "I bless the name of the God of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego who sent his angel to deliver his worshipers from fire, let everyone under my kingdom not say a word against the God of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego" {Daniel 3:28-29} Nebuchadnezzar could say this not because he wants to start worshipping the God of Israel, note that he (Nebuchadnezzar) didn't ask from those three Hebrews what he must do to become a worshiper of their God. So Nebuchadnezzar and all other people from different places have different Gods they worship he only declared that he now respect the God of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego. Meaning Nebuchadnezzar never had how this God had been delivering his people singlehandedly, after all he went to Jerusalem (where the Temple of this God was built) conquered the city and burnt down both the city and God's Temple. So how on Earth could he have known that the same God he desecrated his Temple was the one and only true God?
So JEHOVAH only prove himself when he need to do so, he never disturbed the demons from being Gods in other places, when the worshipers of those demons decide to trample on JEHOVAH'S worship and his true worshipers that's when he will act to prove his ALMIGHTINESS!

Thanks and God bless you!

MaxInDHouse:

God's word called Adam "the son of God" {Luke 3:38} of course Adam was flesh.
So God had spirit sons a well as flesh sons.

It's the born again that Jesus is talking about here, they have lived all their lives in the flesh but now what will happen to them after resurrection?
Their unnatural spiritual birth will take effect and they will be transformed into spirits! 2Corinthians 3:18

God bless you!

Emusan:


The @bold is really laughable, no wonder they can't tell us THE FLESH who produces the people who will live forever on earth.

This is how you'll know that, they fully understand and know that RESURRECTION is in GLORIFIED HUMAN BODY but since the doctrine of Jesus didn't take His body back mist be uphold, then the confusion started.

@underlined is what they can't disprove from the scripture.

Once you're not BORN AGAIN OR BORN OF SPIRIT, you don't belong to Jesus and His Father.

Apostle Paul in fact made it clear in Gal 4 when he compared ALL BELIEVERS as born of spirit (from Sarah) to unbelievers who are born of FLESH (from Haggai).

21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise. 24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written: “Be glad, barren woman, you who never bore a child; shout for joy and cry aloud, you who were never in labor; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband.” 28 Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman. Gal 4 21-31 CEV

Vs 31 explicitly stated that we're not CHILDREN OF THE BONDWOMAN BUT OF THE FREE WOMAN because the children of the BONDWOMAN are born after FLESH, have no inheritance and remained SLAVE

No doubt that everyone knows Haggai here represents the unbelievers.

Now, notice what verse 24 says "These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants.

So with God there's ONLY TWO COVENANTS either you belong to Flesh and remained slave or to the Spirit and be free.

That's why they're many contrasts between FLESH (referring to our sinful nature) and SPIRIT (a regenerated of our sinful nature) in the scripture which John 3:6 was part of.

achorladey:


The Scriptures gives us instances where Jehovah's servants practice and teaching stuffs contrary to the Scriptures

the same Janosky practice and teaching


Peter led some believers "astray" & deviated from "the truth of the gospel", is that the teaching of Jesus Christ


the same Janosky practice and teaching

achorladey:


I know rottennaija will definitely pick something to consign you as well

Here is where I am going though

Matthew 5:5, did Jesus Christ teach you that spirits will inherit the earth?

Emphasis on..........spirits will inherit the earth

Here is what your GB teach about Matthew 5:5 as captured in the image below

Oga Janosky who will inherit the EARTH?

A. Spirit

B. Flesh

C. Spirits and flesh

D. I decide to look elsewhere

Whatever option you choose put the GB and you in an interesting situation based on this question of yours..... Matthew 5:5, did Jesus Christ teach you that spirits will inherit the earth

How will one read the below image and not see LANDLORDS(144,000) and TENANTS( great crowd of OTHER SHEEP) situation unfolding.

Millions of others who do not have the heavenly calling TENANTS, however, will inherit the earth in the sense that they will be allowed (by the LANDLORDS) to live here forever in perfection, peace, and happiness.

Barristter07:


" Finally , brothers , continue... to be readjusted " 2Corinthians 13:11 well done brother

MaxInDHouse:
[b]Those who are flesh like Adam don't need any rebirth,

all they need is salvation after forgiveness,

it's those who are going to rule with Jesus in heaven that need a spiritual rebirth.

The scriptures never said those who aren't born again will be destroyed!

Jesus made it clear that his own work is to gather only the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6, 15:24} so most of his words were directed to this little flock {Luke 12:32} their earthly subjects are the other sheep this unlimited number aren't of the fold Jesus primarily came to gather![/b] John 10:16

So when talking about those born of spirit we know this ones need such rebirth to be able to go and reside in heaven, but our own promise from God remains everlasting life on earth in the flesh just as God had in mind for Adam and all his descendants from the beginning Psalms 37:29, 115:16; Matthew 5:5

Thanks Sir!

Barristter07:
Like i said, I love your anger . Its very much needed, the more the fish struggle with the hook, the deeper it Pierce's . Keep it up .

If it was immediately, Peter won't have said a New Birth into a living hope , Hope is the key word.


" by which he has granted to us his precious and very great PROMISES, so that through them [the promise] you may become partakers of the divine nature, " 2Pet 1:4

The sharing of God's nature is a " Promise ". So that Spirit form comes later .

You can rest now. Let's proceed .

Pastor Emusan of Lying Chapel ministries

This means Second ressurection is only for sinners , very very wrong idea.


"Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. " John 5:28:29

This dead one RISE at the same hour , , alot of good people are among them . Does this sound like first ressurection to your dull head?

Meditate on that John 3:8 you can't tell or in other words, an individual don't have a say where the wind goes. So it is with everyone born of spirit. Once again you FAIL .

Thankfully the text didn't say " Human Spiritual body "

It says Spiritual body . Just spiritual .

Spiritual is the opposite of physical . The body is not material or visible

Spiritual
" of, relating to, or consisting of spirit : not bodily or material " - Mariam Webster

Revelation 21:3,4 " And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying: "Look! The residence of God is among human beings. He will live among them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them. " NET

That Greek word was used extensively for human beings with flesh and blood in Bible. Emusan of Lying ministries, you have alot to learn

Genesis 5:2 said God gave the name humans to Adam and Eve , are they flesh and blood ?

Improve your thinking ability

Emusan:


Anger! You must be describing your hopeless situation.



So when they were BORN OF SPIRIT they still remain as HUMAN until they received the promise of becoming spirit being at Resurrection.....

Your brain is actually paining you.

1 This letter is from Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ. I am writing to you WHO SHARE THE SAME PRECIOUS FAITH WE HAVE. This faith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior. 2Pet 1:1 NIV

Do you SHARE the same precious FAITH with the apostles or not?

Once again 4 verse is for ALL THOSE WHO SHARES TJE PRECIOUS FAITH with them and if you don't everlasting fire is your abode.



Apostle Barristter07 the lying liar like his darling Daddy the devil.



You need your head examined!

Again, there is ONLY ONE TYPE of resurrection which is "SOWED IN HUMAN BODIES but RAISED in spiritual body"

What you sowed at Resurrection is what you raised, you can't sowed HUMAN BODY and raised SPIRIT BEINGS.

Get that into your empty skull.



Mediate on that John 1:12-13 you can tell that IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE in Jesus Christ everlasting fire is your abode and once you BELIEVE IN CHRIST EVEN IN HIS NAME you're BORN(REBIRTH) AGAIN OR by God Himself.



Yes spiritual body and that's the ONLY TYPE OF RESURRECTION, NATURAL TO SPIRITUAL.

So if you think the spiritual is what Jesus have definitely ALL BELIEVERS will have SPIRITUAL.

That's why I'm still demanding for the verse where it is stated that "SOWED IN NATURAL AND RAISED AS NATURAL"



Just like I said earlier, @living4christ has tutored you people on spiritual stuff, no time to waste time here.

You can refresh your empty skull on that.



Olodo oshi...

Now he has jump to Greek but if we start dragging him with Greek, you'll see him chicken out like his fake GB who translated NWT with absolute Zero of Greek understanding.

Of course after resurrection we're still HUMAN just as Christ is still HUMAN in heaven now.

But the point here is that God will reside with His people and leave your spirit beings people in everlasting fire because the verse says "Look! The residence of God is among human beings."

Janosky:


Mr LIENUS Fictitious epistles

DappaD:
Was I the one who inserted MANKIND into Revelation 21:3? So the ‘mankind’ there is different from the one in Genesis 5:2? i.e. the makeup of this ‘mankind’ is no longer flesh and blood?

But the Greek word found in Revelation 21:3 is ἀνθρώπων(anthropos) which translates to mankind with flesh and blood.

Your lies have caught up with you this time LOL! So the “I will reside among them” in Exodus 25:8 is different from the one in Revelation 21:3? Please don't make me laugh.

There's a LOT—as in a LOT you need to know!
Paul, Peter, John in their letters were addressing ONLY those whom Jehovah's holy spirit has sealed/anointed to be given a new birth as immortal spirit creatures!—2Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13, 1Peter 1:23, 2Peter 1:4,10, 1John 2:2 and compare with Revelation 7:3

Revelation 20:5 says the resurrection of those born again/anointed Christians whom are part of the 144,000 and have died is the FIRST resurrection. Compare with 1Thess 4:16-17 and 1Corinthians 15:23,51-53

Acts 24:15 mentions the resurrection of just/righteous and unjust/unrighteous ones on earth and that implies that there will be a second, third and so forth.

Unless you're saying unrighteous ones partake in the first resurrection to have immortal spirit bodies too? Smh.

You go just dey dribble yourself everytime
So in your dictionary,
SPIRITUAL BODY ≠ SPIRIT BODY abi? If it's not the same why have you and your partners making noise about John 3:6?

Till now none of you have been able to debunk 1Peter 3:18 that says Jesus rose as a spirit body.

Emusan embrace truth for once you won't die! Tufia!

Emusan:

Jesus is a MAN in heaven according to the scripture, do you agree as a man, He is flesh and blood?

Just like I said, you inserted that, not in the scripture.
Funny how you put rush to Greek when your lies are being exposed.

The same word ἀνθρώπων(anthropos) was used by Apostle Paul in 1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one mediator between God and men(ἀνθρώπων(anthropos)), THE MAN(ἀνθρώπων(anthropos)) JESUS..."

Jesus must be flesh and blood in heaven then.
Much trouble for the spirit being believers.

Did God say a sanctuary should be built before residing with them?
But IN Revelation THE WHOLE HOME OF GOD was with the people.Your ignorance is catching up with you faster than speed of light.

If they have already SEAL, why must still be proofing FAITHFUL before the gain the heavenly life again Confused JWs

[s]
Just like I asked your other brothers
Do you believe in Jesus Christ even in His name?
If your answer is Yes! Then You're BORN(REBRITH) AGAIN because the scripture says; "AS MANY that believe on Him even in His name, he gave right to become sons of God, not BORN by the will of flesh or man by BORN(rebirth) by God Himself"
All believers who died in Christ will experience first resurrection at His second coming.
Really....so resurrection in JWs even more than two times, that sounds strange.
Your head will just fall off.
Unrighteous one won't be resurrected at the second coming of Christ, the second coming of Christ is for His saints where they'll sit with father Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the Kingdom of heaven.[/s]

@living4christ has already tutored you people on what is spiritual soon this same thread, so do yourself a favor by revisiting his wonderful work and stop being stupid here.

John 3:6 point is that ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF SPIRIT, without being born of spirit, Born of God or Born Again your abode is everlasting fire.Grab that into your empty skull.

Can you show us from 1peter 3:18 where the word JESUS ROSE AS A SPIRIT BODY appeared or you remain silent forever?

I don't need to embrace it since resurrection of Jesus can be more than three times, we who don't embrace truth will have our resurrection at the fifth time.
But my own to you is, BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND EVEN IN HIS NAME so that God Himself can rebirth you because failure to BELIEVE IN CHRIST MEANS YOU'RE COMDEMNED AND PERISH. John 3:16-16

Janosky:

E dey pain am ,
Achorladey sifia pains.
Bros, quantirinu to Wail

Emusan:


Their bodies is still flesh and blood, and won't be QUICKNEN which is the difference between unbelievers and believers because unbelievers don't have the Spirit of God in them.

ROMANS 8:11

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Emusan:


Which is still corruptible but after resurrection with a glorified body. Man will still have flesh and bones as Jesus has.
Both unbelievers and believers will be resurrected back to human but the believers own will be regenerated by the spirit to conform with the glorious body of Christ.

achorladey:


Anyone looking through that awake of 1970 will see how pages after pages the Catholic religious beliefs and policies were brought under scrutiny by your ORGANIZATION. They were using them as case study for how ABSOLUTE TRUTH becomes LIES.

Now

When your very [b]ORGANIZATION beliefs and policies are brought under scrutiny by other religious DENOMINATIONS using the JW ORGANIZATION as case study of how ABSOLUTE TRUTH become LIES.

Your response becomes


E dey pain am ,Achorladey sifia pains. Bros, quantirinu to Wail.

Where did you keep your FRAUD and WAYO stuff?

DeOTR:
Do JWs believe Jesus didn't resurrect bodily?
I would be disappointed if that's the case.

Emusan:


Anger! You must be describing your hopeless situation.
So when they were BORN OF SPIRIT they still remain as HUMAN until they received the promise of becoming spirit being at Resurrection.....

Your brain is actually paining you.

1 This letter is from Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ. I am writing to you WHO SHARE THE SAME PRECIOUS FAITH WE HAVE. This faith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior. 2Pet 1:1 NIV

Do you SHARE the same precious FAITH with the apostles or not?

Once again 4 verse is for ALL THOSE WHO SHARES TJE PRECIOUS FAITH with them and if you don't everlasting fire is your abode.

Apostle Barristter07 the lying liar like his darling Daddy the devil.
You need your head examined!

Again, there is ONLY ONE TYPE of resurrection which is "SOWED IN HUMAN BODIES but RAISED in spiritual body"

What you sowed at Resurrection is what you raised, you can't sowed HUMAN BODY and raised SPIRIT BEINGS.

Get that into your empty skull.


Yes spiritual body and that's the ONLY TYPE OF RESURRECTION, NATURAL TO SPIRITUAL.

So if you think the spiritual is what Jesus have definitely ALL BELIEVERS will have SPIRITUAL.

That's why I'm still demanding for the verse where it is stated that "SOWED IN NATURAL AND RAISED AS NATURAL"

Just like I said earlier, @living4christ has tutored you people on spiritual stuff, no time to waste time here.

You can refresh your empty skull on that.

Mediate on that John 1:12-13 you can tell that IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE in Jesus Christ everlasting fire is your abode and once you BELIEVE IN CHRIST EVEN IN HIS NAME you're BORN(REBIRTH) AGAIN OR by God Himself.

Olodo oshi...

Now he has jump to Greek but if we start dragging him with Greek, you'll see him chicken out like his fake GB who translated NWT with absolute Zero of Greek understanding.

But the point here is that God will reside with His people and leave your spirit beings people in everlasting fire because the verse says "Look! The residence of God is among human beings."

Of course after resurrection we're still HUMAN just as Christ is still HUMAN in heaven now.

livingchrist:

Yes God is Spirit but a different spirit from that of angels.

Jesus said he had flesh and bones which spirits do not have.

Jesus is both man and God, so Jesus has both God's nature and human nature in one.

That Jesus has a human nature is clear from the bible
1. Jesus said so
2. Jesus is the High priest, ( spirits cannot be an high priest because an high priest must be from the same people, having same nature)
3. Resurrection only applies to the body not the spirit. Jesus did not die as a spirit so can not be resurrected as a spirit as what dies is not the spirit but body, now if you say Jesus wasnt resurrected on his body then there was no resurrection at all.

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Christ wasnt put to death in the spirit but in the flesh, since resurrection means restoring, then it would only mean Jesus was restored with a human body since what was killed was his flesh so what would be restored is his body.


This is from the bible, Jesus died in the flesh but was made alive through the spirit as a human but more of a spiritual man than physical.