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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 9:42am On Nov 27, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: The hero Ndigbo knows and acknowledges till this day is no other person than General Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu... Igbos aren't fully aware of those names you are calling. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 12:05pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: There is also Onitsha N' Idu. Idu is what Igbo call Benin people. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 1:05pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof: Oromiyan in Benin are you high..... Can you prove this with European text or achaeological record And also prove oromiyan was ever from ife with Records |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 1:08pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof: So the Europeans who wrote about oroogbua saw fairytales too lol all yorubas have gone mad 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 1:15pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
The obsession some yoruba have about Benin is such that, many of them jump into any topic talking about Benin. Many of them talk only about Benin and the Oba of Benin. I had never seen such an obsession before. Is there any other group of humans whom are so obsessed with claiming an other group is part of them ? How many pages in nairaland are dedicated to yoruba claiming everything Benin and grossly attempting to rewrite Benin history ? Even some europeans are getting confused, some of them go after Benin facts, they meet a yoruba who dupes them into writing yoruba claims. I mean, why are you guys so obsessed with us ? I just saw a page in which yoruba and igbo are fighting over whom Benin "migrated" from, the yoruba are saying "they migrated from ife". The igbo are saying "they migrated from nri". Wow, so much ink about us by outsiders. Well as I stated, if you are worthy, then many will claim you. We are the Edo, our ancestors were citizens of a country called benin empire whose capital is Benin city. The Bight of Benin was named after us, Benin republic was named after our name "Benin". The title of our King was copied by a group of people who agreed to call themselves yoruba not too long ago. Western museums are full with sculptures of our departed kings. We are the Edo. 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung:macof is a real embarrassment, I remember he used to claim he were a history student. Which means he was either telling lies, either he was a very bad history student, either his professors are charlattans. Anyway, the last person who should be seeking credentials in history is macof, he is a total fraud. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 1:51pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung:Provide one source that mentions ewuare, esigie, orogbua or any of your so called warrior Kings during their so called reign Lmao everything European that wrote essentially you believe you have no history without Europeans What a muck |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 1:54pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
bandit90002:worry less about people who have what they are doing and worry about yourself. Gregyboy replying gregyboy What a waste of time only a Jobless person can afford |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 1:54pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
I was baandd by a yoruba bot Just because i wanted to create a thread promoting my culture Yorubas are coward its a known fact why do you fignt in the dark i thought you guys were satisfied with TAO11 answers TAO11 it seems your kingsmen know you aint doi ng anything so they had to help you from the dark I created this thread four times and i was banned four times i created it Is all good they would soon yorubanise nairaland till they help them kill it odumchi Fulaman198. bigfrancis21 Why do i get banned for creating a thread
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:00pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
I also frequently get banned for the crime of proving yoruba dogma to be a fallacy, or for the crime of speaking too much sense. I also get banned each time I write anything in french. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 2:01pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
I was banned too
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 2:04pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Samuel was banned the pE guy was banned too And we are all Benin’s Does this bann mean tao12 has been saying rubbish Samuel post your screenshot of your banned Peguy was banned for helping smuk drop the screenshot that mention the king of Benin as oba 1863 he was banned for dropping his evidence Lol,yorubas can’t even get hold of their cowardice for a debate
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:10pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 2:13pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof: And if you make provide it ,I bet you would pay me 10k since you believe they didn’t Are you ready to pay it I will drop my account details Afonja 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 2:16pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung:lol begging for money on account of your joblessness Will you getthafvck outta here |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:17pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof:wow, how can you be so illogical and casual with it ? The people of the region didn't have a written language ! we are talking about eye-witness accounts here ! Our own eye-witnesses couldn't write ! The fact the litterate eye-witnesses were europeans is irrelevent. What matters is that they were eye-witnesses and that we are reading their accounts ! A real history student would know this. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 2:18pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof: Very funny guy ,the European wrote points down which can guide us to the truth against the yorubas because if you use local intellect they will call it unfair |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:20pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung:though what matters is not the ethnicity of whom wrote the text, it is the fact he were eye-witness to the events. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 2:35pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
bandit90002: Please don't give me this bullshit outcry When I speak of traditions that Nupe, Yoruba and Edoid groups (not just Bini) have of Oranmiyan, you ask for European texts otherwise he doesn't exist Listen anything with you from now should be supported with European texts Your Ewuare, ozolua, eweka, Ewedo, etc are all myths Therefore the current king of benin is ewuare I not ewuare II.. European texts don't mention ewuare I Your entire oba dynasty didn't start with eweka but with ovonramwen Unless you can provide texts that show ovonramwen succeeding his father who also held the title oba You will provide European texts of Bini ever incorporating the delta-igbos, towns and cities in Ondo state into the so called Benin empire Or where Europeans ever called Benin an empire You have a lot of work cut out for you @RedboneSmith, @TAO11 @Newton85, @scholes0 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:43pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof: You seem to have problems with comprehension. Indeed my text which you are replying was educating you about the fact that the ethnicity of the eye-witnesses who wrote the eye-witness accounts is irrelevant, what matters is the fact the documents were written by ey-witnesses, and were not your standard story-story which you have tried to call "tradition" or "oral history" or whatever: those unsubstatiated stories are just made up stories, but you are attached to them because yoruba have no real history except that of being slaves in europe and america. You seem to have missed that point entirely. You also seem to not understand that I am not defending any folklore at all, I don't defend dogma, i make claims only when i can prove them and I proceed to prove them. The precolonial maps I already shared, show the region (except a few peaces of land) was part of a country called Benin Kingdom which was ruled by the Oba of Benin. So don't be redundantly asking for proofs of what is already proven. I know, this is just part of your trolling and you have already called for other trolls to back you up. I still don't understand what you guys gain from your unhealthy obsession with us ? |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:53pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
The fact remains, oranmiyan is a mere story which is not backed by any ioto of proof, just like hercules, spiderman, superman...adults shouldn't be into fairytails, those are for children. soon enough, trolls will fill this forum once again. i have apaper to write. sayonara |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 3:21pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
I have just lost 2 more hours of my time on nairaland, I need to focus on my paper; So once again, I am going to delete my account. This nairaland is addictive. Good bye. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 3:39pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung:Listen anything with you from now should be supported with European texts Your Ewuare, ozolua, eweka, Ewedo, etc are all myths Therefore the current king of benin is ewuare I not ewuare II.. European texts don't mention ewuare I Your entire oba dynasty didn't start with eweka but with ovonramwen Unless you can provide texts that show ovonramwen succeeding his father who also held the title oba You will provide European texts of Bini ever incorporating the delta-igbos, towns and cities in Ondo state into the so called Benin empire Or where Europeans ever called Benin an empire You have a lot of work cut out for you 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 3:54pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
macof: Ok i agree it started with ovaremwen what changed Does it makes oromiyan find the dynasty during ovaremwen reign Sicko Ni sense If we are to use this same logic on your kings thsn thier stool would have beging 1900 Macof you need sleep |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 4:13pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
TAO11: The mouth of coward is sharper than a two headed sword and the length of theier mouth is as long as the length of a sword Yoruba are historical cowards who tend to perch on benin history to lay their nest They are parasitic to we benins cutting them off means death to their history They couldn't even make bronze artwork instead they purchased it from art merchant I spit on their coward ancestors who sold themselves, and sold theid lands for penut And they still gave their artworks to the Europeans for a bottle of alomo bitters I would have love to spit on thier heads but my spit may do more harm than good |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 4:21pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
TAO11: To the yorubas oba means overlord, because wen benin ventured into yoruba land to conquer them, when they heard the word oba they quickly Define it as overlord To we benins tho it represents king in literal terms but in reality it means *shinning one* Omo no ba nedo, It is a praise name that is the etymology Ogie means royalty, Duke Afam4eva macof TAO11 TAO12 |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 4:41pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung: 1 Like
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 4:53pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Below is what this Yoruba student of history claimed earlier in the thread. Hopefully he has seen the 1863 document that referenced Oba Adolo (Oba Ovonramwen's father). macof: 3 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 5:00pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Hello disgruntled Binis; Watch this space for the final funeral ceremony of your lies and propaganda. I’d be back. See attached to whet your appetite before my return. ——————- Modified: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Edeyoung: 5:03pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
samuk: You self you be winch, youre the man of the match in this thread bro Even with their bannee TAO12 is going to dig for more with her smelling pussy 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 6:16pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
samuk: Leave am... Na Old age dey worry am... His recent comments just showed that he is getting foolish by the day... Engaging him will be like engaging a fool in his folly |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 6:19pm On Nov 27, 2020 |
Edeyoung: That one feeds on Benin history... Any bad moment in it is a moment of joy and happiness for her.. I don't know how to even access some of the books or preview it... |
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