bandit90003:
[s]Just imagine someone starts dressing like you today and tomorrow he acts amnesic and asks you why you are dressing like him ? Well the amnesic guy is the yoruba. Even after you show him photos, proof of the fact he is the one who copied you, he keeps in his delusion[/s]

bandit90003:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqF5JhgX0g
time stamp 1:43

bandit90003:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZ9rJVIMh4

bandit90003:

It is a new day.
I give you, the truth.
stay blessed everybody.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olZLIC4T9uE

My reply to him from the previous page is as follows:

You’ve written your trash as always and as expected.

You are dumber than I used to think you are.

“King” is an English word dummy! So any territory that indigenously has a monarch AND that indigenously speaks English is bound to refer to its monarch as “King” (or “Queen” ). This is the common sense which you lack.

For the other languages examples you’ve alluded to, refer to my explanation above on English language. A human being can not be this dumb. Or can they?
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And we’ve been waiting for any evidence of Benin owning “Oba” for over 10 days (and still counting) now.

What we seem to have found instead is a written evidence [BTW, I don’t even regard writing as absolute evidence] of older Yoruba usage.

Delusion is when you are convinced within you that you know that you have no evidence for a claim and then still proceeded anyways to make the claim. Exactly what we’ve been seeing with you Binis.
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Gosh! We must just accept this claim that Bini own “Oba” even without a jot of evidence, right? LMAO!

We must accept it despite the fact that “Oba” neither means “King”, nor “Monarch”, etc. from the language of the Binis and other Edo speaking people. Interesting!

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The following is a statement written before the 20th century which exposes what the word for “king”, “monarch” really is in the indigenous language of the Bini people:

“They [the king’s boys] terrorized the country. Some were confined to the king’s compounds in Benin itself. Others were allowed to go about the country on so-called king’s messages. They arrived at a village, and called the head man or men and said ‘Eguatuwo’ which meant that the ‘king sends you his compliments,’ but it was a form which was a terror to the villagers.”

Quoted by H.L. Roth from a letter from Benin written by Mr Punch.

Here we’ve seen what word the Binis would indigenously use from their language when they say the word “king” — in reference to their monarch or any monarch for that matter.

This indigenous Bini word (as is seen in the above phrase which Mr Punch himself was quoting from the people rather than his own non-native speculative interpretation) appears to be around that same root word “ogie”, viz. “king”.

bandit90003:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqF5JhgX0g
time stamp 1:43

bandit90003:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZ9rJVIMh4

bandit90003:

It is a new day.
I give you, the truth.
stay blessed everybody.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olZLIC4T9uE

bandit90003:
Just imagine someone starts dressing like you today and tomorrow he acts amnesic and asks you why you are dressing like him ? Well the amnesic guy is the yoruba. Even after you show him photos, proof of the fact he is the one who copied you, he keeps in his delusion.

Yes you’re right Benin had bronzes that were taken from it against its will as a punishment for Benin’s atrocities — these Bronzes are therefore scattered in Museum around the world generating income for the higher power. If you find any Ife bronze outside the shores of Nigeria, it is there because we willingly let go of it

Now, back to the subject: The indigenous Bini word which represents the English word “king” is not “oba”.

“Oba” by all indication is a loanword into the Benin lexicon from the Yoruba language.

This explains why it has a relevant and relatable literal meaning ONLY in the Yoruba language — “the overlord”.

bandit90001:
Being honnest.
If you ask a jew if his ancestors were slaves, he will say yes. But tell me, is nigeria 1/10th of israel ?
No need to lie, accept history as it happened.
History is not for politics, it is a door into the passed. It is a last respect we pay to our ancestors, so stop telling lies !
If sons of slaves (israel) now have one of the most technologically advanced country in the world, the what stops the yoruba from admitting a bunch of them descend from freed slaves ?
The fact Benin was the superpower of the region doesn't stop you from going after any dream you want to fulfill ?

Several contemporaneous and even earlier maps describe all the West Africa forest region by the name, “Guinea”.

Yet, Guinea never had any imperial relevance worth noting in the course of its history till date.

In other words, early maps were made by the European cartographers based on their acquaintance, and thus based on convenience.

And like I have educated your empty cranium before now, the Europeans’ easier access to the coast of Ughoton made them more acquainted with the Benin region.

The coast of Ughoton was relatively deeper than the the Yoruba coasts, and as such made it a natural harbour which can take their large ships.

Moreover, macof has times without number shown you contemporaneous maps of featuring Yoruba land.

bandit90003:
[s]Just imagine someone starts dressing like you today and tomorrow he acts amnesic and asks you why you are dressing like him ? Well the amnesic guy is the yoruba. Even after you show him photos, proof of the fact he is the one who copied you, he keeps in his delusion[/s]

bandit90003:
[s]Someone keeps quoting me, that is weird. I am not buying whatever you are selling whomever you are, so go and continue lying to your fans. While i actually educate those who want to learn. But anyways, I am not reading what you are writing. The best way to defeat a troll is to not read what he writes[/s].

[s]Being honnest.
If you ask a jew if his ancestors were slaves, he will say yes. But tell me, is nigeria 1/10th of israel ?
No need to lie, accept history as it happened.
History is not for politics, it is a door into the passed. It is a last respect we pay to our ancestors, so stop telling lies !
If sons of slaves (israel) now have one of the most technologically advanced country in the world, the what stops the yoruba from admitting a bunch of them descend from freed slaves ?
The fact Benin was the superpower of the region doesn't stop you from going after any dream you want to fulfill ?[/s]

TAO11:
See premium tears.

Yes, I will quote the staments and give the reference in due course. Let me Finish these liars first.

But to whet your appetite, it comes from the ethnographic field work of the late Professor R. E. Bradbury* where the Edos informed him that they were slave-raided by incursions from the Ibadan army under a leader named Aje. Ibadan was the new sheriff in town after the reign of the Oyo Empire.

RedboneSmith:


Again, no substance in this response. Just emotion. 'Benin is great' is no proof of Benin conquest of the SE. Just as 'Rome was great' is no proof that the Roman Empire expanded up to Sweden.

Benin adventure in Eastern Yoruba is remembered in traditions. We know, for example the stories surrounding Osogboye and Iken. Where are the stories of Benin adventure in the SE? Who were the heroes/warriors? Where were the battles fought? Why are there ZERO traditions of military or even social interactions, the way we have traditions of such interactions between Benin and the Eastern Yoruba, or Benin and the Western Igbo (a.k.a., Anioma)?

Give me something here, please. Don't give me emotion.

samuk:


One thing you must know is that when Benin people went eastward into Igbo land they met very little or no resistance hence the reason Oluadah Equiano said Benin king rule over his Igbo people was less than nominal.

Benin only took wars to those that resisted or refused to acknowledged her preeminence but that isn't to say some parts of Ogbo land wasn't under the control of Benin people or people from Benin.

Like Yoruba who got the word Oba into their lexicon through eastern Yoruba Benin subjects, [s]the Igbos got Obi into their lexicon through western Igbo Benin subjects. [/s]


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Onitsha, port and market town in Anambra state, southern Nigeria. The town lies on the east bank of the Niger River just south of its confluence with the Anambra River. Founded by adventurers from Benin (nearby, to the west) in the early 17th century, it grew to become the political and trading centre of the small Igbo (Ibo) kingdom of Onitsha. Its monarchical system (rare among the Igbo people) was patterned after that of Benin. An Onitsha obi (“king”) negotiated in 1857 with William Balfour Baikie, a British trader, for the establishment of a British trading post in the town.

Juliusmalema:



[s]
You Bini boys are sounding off with wide goose claims to even say the word Obi was borrowed. This is height of stewwwpiddity and foooolishness..

In all Bini might and power as said still there is nothing absolutely nothing to point that yes Bini had any interaction with Igbos aside normal border interactions.

You couldn't even disprove historical ties with Yorubas and here you guys are running mouth with people you don't even have single history to write on.


It is high time you lots face your yoruba lineage squarely and stop the long argument.

As far as history is concerned, you all are Yorubas. The best thing for you guys is to move in line with afenifere and stop being unnecessary antagonistic.


Average Bini man and those I had known agrees to the fact of their history with Bini. It is only on nairaland that you see people lying when in reality they know (Bini-Yoruba) are one.

Quit writing nonsense about ndigbo, it is becoming stale.[/s]

Juliusmalema:


Continue cancelling.


You guys should stop all these irritating and annoying histories. Nothing like that existed.

Etinosa1234:

Ur tears won't solve anything

Equaino clearly stated that Benin was ruling his place in the southeast as at 1750 and Azikiwe clearly stated that his ancestors migrated from Benin...

No matter how u deny it, the truth can never be lost

Juliusmalema:
[s]

Which tears?

Simply mind the history that have connections with Bini and leave others out of it.

Get a better account and not fictions and fairy tales..

Stop circulating fabrications as true[/s].

Etinosa1234:


So Azikiwe is a liar and u that is unknown even in ur village is saying the truth.

Don't make me laff abeg

Juliusmalema:



You Nigerians knows Azikiwe not ndigbo

So it is a two different issues.