She will be polite next time.

Jashub:
Bros, stop embarrassing yourself like this. The lady in question was not applying for a position in HR department(which requires good communication skills) ; she was applying as an intern in Web-design /Graphics firm. Does that sort of Job require a WhatsApp chat from from company's HR agent?

Stop disgracing yourself on this forum. Can't you see how folks are disappointed at you?
The fact that you keep defending the lady and keep saying her character is not necessary in this case is very stupid . Character and attitude is necessary in every aspect of life.
I have to use that word because you have been on this thread since morning exhibiting stupidity.
You're in no position to tell a company what information outlet they should make use of when contacting people. And to think that the girl even gave out her contact to be reached out to and you're here defending stupidity is outrageous.
You need help.
And I'm sure you don't have a job.
When you finally get one and they contact you through whatsapp, tell them that they're very unprofessional and let's see how far you'll go.
You're not even ashamed.

kingxsamz:


Lol, all what you wrote proves my point. It all depends on the company itself. This organization uses emails, the other uses other platforms because it's suitable to them. It doesn't make it less professional.
It all boils down to what means the company wants to share its information. You get?

Now, there's nothing wrong with Mr Emmanuel starting the conversation with a "Good evening". Get this, Absolutely nothing wrong . If you check the time stamps, you'd see that he wanted to arrive at that point of introduction, but first, he needs to confirm that it's actually Mary he's chatting with. How would you just text a number on WhatsApp and start introducing yourself when you're not sure that you're chatting with the right person? It makes no sense.
It's not as if that if he doesn't introduce himself at the first text the world would end.
C'mon... Finding fault in a "Hello, good evening Mary" is just you defending her attitude and manner which she responded. There's no two ways about it. If she didn't like the good evening, she should have ignored.
Even you won't respond that way.
If you're against his greeting at first, you're definitely in support of her response. Simple as that.
And if you read the full story, you'd see that he already called before texting, which she didn't pick.

Oh I'm not against his greeting, I only had issue with WhatsApp as recruitment however Mary wasn't courteous. At the end of the day Emmanuel holds the power to recruit and she messed up. She was right to feel that way, however that expression she made was a wrong move and as a result she must suffer the consequences. I'll won't like recruiters hitting me on WhatsApp, but regardless I never reply rudely to anyone I don't know. I fit dey talk with Dangote, someone could have referred. I get your point also

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kingxsamz:


Stop disgracing yourself on this forum. Can't you see how folks are disappointed at you?
The fact that you keep defending the lady and keep saying her character is not necessary in this case is very stupid . Character and attitude is necessary in every aspect of life.
I have to use that word because you have been on this thread since morning exhibiting stupidity.
You're in no position to tell a company what information outlet they should make use of when contacting people. And to think that the girl even gave out her contact to be reached out to and you're here defending stupidity is outrageous.
You need help.
And I'm sure you don't have a job.
When you finally get one and they contact you through whatsapp, tell them that they're very unprofessional and let's see how far you'll go.
You're not even ashamed.

[/s] Not one ounce of sense is seen from this your poorly written comment.

But I will blame that on your lack of exposure. Since it is obvious that shithole Nigeria is setting stupidity and incompetence as a standard in a company's recruitment process.

dazzlingd:


How old are u? either u are below 12 being way too immature and haven't seen life or above 75 and have gone archaic.
No offense but you don't appear intellectually sound...and most annoying you think u are smart

Whatzap that people are using for businesses and closing deals is your problem abi..
Do u know the skills they required for the job, maybe interpersonal relationship is a prerequisite??
You are just dumb and should shut up in Shame already

People even get job from reputable company through Twitter dm, Instagram dm, and Facebook dm, but the guy you quoted turn whatsapp to a vault.

pcguru1:


Oh I'm not against his greeting, I only had issue with WhatsApp as recruitment however Mary wasn't courteous. At the end of the day Emmanuel holds the power to recruit and she messed up. She was right to feel that way, however that expression she made was a wrong move and as a result she must suffer the consequences. I'll won't like recruiters hitting me on WhatsApp, but regardless I never reply rudely to anyone I don't know. I fit dey talk with Dangote, someone could have referred. I get your point also

Alright then. It's all good.

Lobatan! Hope you also saw where she said she's been waiting for this... It simply means she was informed/notified that someone would get in touch with her. For me, her case is a case of pride comes before a fall..

Jashub:
I do not support the lady's rudeness, but the company should have informed her on the method they would use to contact her in case she was selected. It is just standard procedure.

Perfectsouth:
Just this afternoon, a lady was inside the hot sun and I took pity on her, she was waiting for a bike..
A bike man was gesturing to her maybe she is going.. About four people were trying to tell her and though she heard clearly, she looked away..
The bike man went to meet her and told her we've been trying to tell her there is a bike here, it was then she looked at us and was trying to apologize.
We all gave her Waka shege..
So many uncouth and untrained ladies out there..
A food seller of about 13yrs of age was selling food and she said something way way above her age then someone asked her who she was talking to, she said 'ELEYI' meaning this one..
She was referring to someone of about 45years of age as eleyi

It is really terrible. I don't know if it is perculier to Naija girls alone. Most of them are rude, mannerless, toxic and uncouth.

The only thing in their empty skull is affair or relationship matters. As soon as you exchange pleasantries with them as a man, they will start thinking you want to fûck them and they start acting defensive.

Babara1994:
Some ladies ehn...that's how rude they are o

So proud and arrogant. Parents have a lot of work to do on their girls.

Blame the many simps we have nowadays. I live in a student dominated area and every day, I see how guys "worship" these ladies. You will see a young girl talking to her elder brother's age mate anyhow even those old enough to be her father. And you will see the guy still smiling and begging. That's how and where these girls get their effrontery from.

Jashub:
You are making narrow minded assumptions here. And secondly, what will in cost the company to give successful candidates a prior notification? Can you tell me...

Narrow minded you said. I feel you are the one that had failed to come in terms with the dynamic nature of hiring in our present dispensation. Haven't you heard of an employer that purposely sent Airtime to an unsuspecting job seeker, asking her to kindly return such Airtime as it was a mistake, while it was simply a test.

Maybe I should tell you how a HR at Mobil oil HQ called over the phone, with so much questions about my available credentials (without any email notification)..

Get adapt or stay behind.

Iconstar:
Oil dey ur head jare.Its uncalled for to start insulting an unknown number without even hearing him/ her out.

Lolzzzzz...

odinson1:
Who is bringing up all these mannerless and uncouth Ladies
I wonder what nigerian ladies Gain in being unnecessarily rude to strangers
So I finally made first to comment in a front page topic I dedicate this FTC to Righteousness89 and Slawomiir

It is a sign of the times - many ladies feel that every conversation has to be about "shooting your shot"

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Sylverly:
Narrow minded you said. I feel you are the one that had failed to come in terms with the dynamic nature of hiring in our present dispensation. Haven't you heard of an employer that purposely sent Airtime to an unsuspecting job seeker, asking her to kindly return such Airtime as it was a mistake, while it was simply a test.

Maybe I should tell you how a HR at Mobil oil HQ called over the phone, with so much questions about my available credentials (without any email notification)..

Get adapt or stay behind.

[/s] What you said has nothing to do with the dynamic nature of recruitment.

These companies are shortchanging folks out there because they know people are in desperate need of jobs hence, they can dishout any rubbish and call it a recruitment process. But no wahala sha... if you are comfortable with being shortagechanged , I wish you all the best .

Character is very important in every thing

Jashub:
I agree, but try and look at it from this perspective : you receiving a text from an anonymous number on WhatsApp is a breach on your privacy and security. And as you know, this is 9ja, and you cannot vouch for the next man. So her response is only natural given the circumstances

Natural to be rude/uncouth. Are you serious right now.

As the saying goes "birds of the feathers....

Jashub:
This is your OWN response. And not everyone will act the way you would under a given situation. Remember that

It isn't just his OWN response. But it is the sane way to respond to strangers. Get it

UrVillagePpl:

It isn't just his OWN response. But it is the sane way to respond to strangers. Get it

I do not agree sire.

Realhommie:
She was wrong no doubt and she duly apologized afterwards whether she did with the right intention or not..

You said you accepted her apology but you still went on to pay her back and made her lose a year. Now tell me, what does that make you? You think you're any different from her?

If you are in my shoes, I am very sure you would kick the girl away from your environment.

Mind you, if you don't have manner of approach like her, you will definitely get the same treatment she got.

Jashub:
[s][/s] What you said has nothing to do with the dynamic nature of recruitment.

These companies are shortchanging folks out there because they know people are in desperate need of jobs hence, they can dishout any rubbish and call it a recruitment process. But no wahala sha... if you are comfortable with being shortagechanged , I wish you all the best .

Go take a rest mbok!

jamesharryson:


If you are in my shoes, I am very sure you would kick the girl away from your environment.

Mind you, if you don't have manner of approach like her, you will definitely get the same treatment she got.

What is wrong with some of you with how you express your thoughts? Was the bolded necessary?

Was there anything in my earlier quote that gave me off as being rude or having a poor attitude? Wasn't i civil enough? Why would you have to draw such comparison?

I only asked a question, all you had to do was try to convince me whether i agree or not which you already did in your first paragraph. Na wa ooo.

Jashub
If I comment that I'm not disappointed at your defence, Walahi I will be lying

As it is being said in my language "e je ki a b'omo Wi, e n beere iru egba wo leyi?" (let's correct the child, you're asking what's the rationale in disciplining the child?)

The HR person said he'd been trying to contact the lady in question (via calls) but she wasn't picking the calls

As I am, I don't joke with either calls or messages. (There was a prospect I lost some months back-he was trying to contact me about a job but because I wasn't getting response from him, I "ghosted" him..... Fast forward 2 weeks ago I chatted with him and his response was why was the silence from me? he also told me that apart from that job, I'd lost other 3 prospects
So saying that the organization should have contacted her on the means of communication is gravely grave....

And Sir, I will suggest that you stop commenting on this thread

[quote author=Jashub post=96497891] I agree, but try and look at it from this perspective : you receiving a text from an anonymous number on WhatsApp is a breach on your privacy and security. And as you know, this is 9ja, and you cannot vouch for the next man. So her response is only natural given the circumstances [/quote


If you have sense you will know that when someone sends you a message and call your name when addressing you for the first time. You need to calm down hear everything the person wants to say because you are curious how d person got your number but mentioning your name will make you to have sense and allow the person to land first before anything.
Children of nowadays are so mannerless and untrained. There is no longer respect in there dictionary. Imagine a small boy of 20years old telling me hi baby. I had to caution him that his mother did not train him properly. He should go back to his mother and tell her to retrain him because I am old enough to be his mother and the fact that he is using phone and has data doesn't make him equal with everyone online.

PrinceMajestic:
I am angry with members that failed to tell you how stupid you're and the fool of this thread. I present you your award on behalf of nairaland members

Walahi that jashub na idiot.Very stupid fellow with no sense of reasoning.

Iconstar:
Walahi that jashub na idiot.Very stupid fellow with no sense of reasoning.

It is your father that is a fool. Yoruba idiot with no bearing.

Jashub:
It is your father that is a fool. Yoruba idiot with no bearing.

E pain am. I blame ur bastard useless father and that dirty prostitute u call ur mother for bringing a useless thing like you into this world. U,ur stupid family and generation is cursed.Rot in hell fool

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Iconstar:
E pain am. I blame ur bastard useless father and that dirty prostitute u call ur mother for bringing a useless thing like you into this world. U,ur stupid family and generation is cursed.Rot in hell fool

[/s] Tell that to your love-peddling mother who loves to give mouth action.

Jashub:
[s][/s] Tell that to your love-peddling mother who loves to give mouth action.

Ur prostitute mum bleeped my dog last night.So bestiality runs in ur cursed family Ur stupid diseased father should have worn condom to prevent birthing an idiot like u.

Jashub:
I agree, but try and look at it from this perspective : you receiving a text from an anonymous number on WhatsApp is a breach on your privacy and security. And as you know, this is 9ja, and you cannot vouch for the next man. So her response is only natural given the circumstances

An ill mannered fellow spotted

kingxsamz:


You definitely don't have a point.
If you're in support of her attitude come out and say it. No one will beat you.
You missed where I said he has to confirm who he's talking to first.
Reason why he called her name after saying "good evening". Common sense will let you know that it's someone who probably knows you that's texting you.
Different people have different approaches when it comes to starting a conversation.
If you think someone must introduce himself and all that before you respond to a simple "good evening" that's your own attitude and it's your choice. That's why I said you are not different from the Mary, only that the Mary is dumb.

Greeting someone first and answering back won't kill you. It's not as if the person won't introduce his/herself later on.
So as it is, only one person is at fault here. And whoever blames the guy obviously supports the lady and is as rude and manner less her. Simple.
You can keep your opinion and attitude, but I won't be the one losing opportunities due to my attitude.

We're having this conversation because the girl in question is a desperate job seeker.

If the HR person in question was engaging a top client or so, would he just drop a "Good Evening" and expect a response? He'd obviously have introduced himself and gone straight to the point.

A simple introduction wouldn't kill anyone either.

It's a formal conversation for goodness sake and formal conversations have little or no room for salutations.

I personally do not respond to greetings from an unknown number until after introduction and I don't give a hoot who that person is cos I'm not desperate for anything at the moment.

We all have our different approaches to things and I'm fine with you having a different approach in situations like this.

Sera!!

Realhommie:
What is wrong with some of you with how you express your thoughts? Was the bolded necessary?

Was there anything in my earlier quote that gave me off as being rude or having a poor attitude? Wasn't i civil enough? Why would you have to draw such comparison?

I only asked a question, all you had to do was try to convince me whether i agree or not which you already did in your first paragraph. Na wa ooo.

My dear, I am sincerely sorry for sounding harsh. But I used a conditional statement, "if". Pls I don't mean to be rude either. Forgive me