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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Godada(m): 1:07pm On Nov 30, 2020

Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by elfico(m): 1:07pm On Nov 30, 2020
It never was
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Akjwyzepal(m): 1:10pm On Nov 30, 2020
Hmmn
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Ikpunekenwa(m): 1:12pm On Nov 30, 2020
I will advise you learn php
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by mrdharkchild(m): 1:12pm On Nov 30, 2020
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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Nobody: 1:12pm On Nov 30, 2020
Ok.
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Kentuforchrist(m): 1:13pm On Nov 30, 2020
JavaScript anytym anyday
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Emeka71(m): 1:14pm On Nov 30, 2020
I 1st thought this topic is meant to be in the webmasters section.
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by tnerro1(m): 1:16pm On Nov 30, 2020
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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Sazeals(m): 1:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
it's dying because people hates it. I don't know if it's hard or not php controls more than 70% of the web. but nodejs is widely accepted by people. but I use python Django
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Churchill6767: 1:20pm On Nov 30, 2020
Sazeals:
it's dying because people hates it.
I don't know if it's hard or not
php controls more than 70% of the web.
but nodejs is widely accepted by people.
but I use python Django

Good day, how deep have you gone in Django?
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by AntiWailer: 1:22pm On Nov 30, 2020
It was never the best.

I remember telling my friend over 10 years ago to move away from PHP.

You hardly see any enterprise environment use PHP .

At least the highest recruiters of programmers in Nigeria market.

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Capnd143(m): 1:23pm On Nov 30, 2020
Dude... As I type I'm building something with php. I have been building things with php for years. I'm not quite grounded in nodejs and other Js frameworks, but I can confidently tell you that php gets shit done very fast.

In terms of speed, php doesn't lag behind that much. You'll only ever notice speed difference in mega apps. Please don't let someone discourage you. I am venturing into more js framework, but php has put food on the table for several years.


Have you seen php 7+? How about php 8? Shit is fast, cool and security had been upped!!

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by orgylover: 1:24pm On Nov 30, 2020
dont disturb our brain please

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by techstack: 1:26pm On Nov 30, 2020
Sometimes you have to move around to understand what you are comfortable with
And sometimes the guys you move with and where the job is

OP just start with something, you will find your ground

for me, I am comfortable with C# .net/.net core and javascript/nodejs/expressjs/nestjs

C# at work
Nodejs at home up to enterprise-level
And I have been writing for more than 8 years now

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by rowrowland: 1:27pm On Nov 30, 2020
Somehow I find php too big die(just like Java). You can begin with it to start off- nothing to lose but plenty to gain.

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Sazeals(m): 1:28pm On Nov 30, 2020
Churchill6767:

Good day, how deep have you gone in Django?
deployment is the only thing now
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by OAUTemitayo: 1:28pm On Nov 30, 2020
AntiWailer:
It was never the best.

I remember telling my friend over 10 years ago to move away from PHP.

You hardly see any enterprise environment use PHP .

At least the highest recruiters of programmers in Nigeria market.
Php is still the easiest language that get things done easily. All the nonsense installation node brings to you can be frustrating.
And many enterprise environment use PHP. Yes, js libraries are more scalable and faster, PHP can do almost anything on web.

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Aremson14(m): 1:29pm On Nov 30, 2020
You can start with php. It is more easier to grasp in respect to web dev for most people. But as u gradually understand how the web works tou can migrate to node js and front end frameworks. My opinion though

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Churchill6767: 1:29pm On Nov 30, 2020
Sazeals:

deployment is the only thing now

Wow.. that's nice.. please what materials are you using for learning purposes?
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by OAUTemitayo: 1:30pm On Nov 30, 2020
Moreover PHP is getting better everyday.
Php 7+ is quite faster and very good
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Karleb(m): 1:34pm On Nov 30, 2020
OAUTemitayo:
Moreover PHP is getting better everyday.
Php 7+ is quite faster and very good

Yeah.

PHP 8 was released some days ago. Those new features are dope.

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by tosinhtml: 1:35pm On Nov 30, 2020
ProfAmaben:


Congratulations to him. I'm an advocate of technology and not a fanboy since technology is just a tool utilized in solving problems. You asking me to build a WordPress theme from scratch is like me asking you to use JavaScript to analyze topological features using synthetic aperture radar interferometry and rendering the result with React.

We should all pat ourselves on the back regardless of tech stack or framework. Someone lost his life in Arkansas over Angular vs React fight, say no to fanboyism. Shalom.

Assumptions Assumptions Assumptions. Assumptions flying every where!

Everyone of us assumes about the technology we don't know about, Someone says Mern stack is the worse, another says PHP covers 70% of the web so people should learn it instead. Another says don't learn it cause It sounds like PDP.

Ironically, an ideal way to create a Wordpress website is to create the Theme from scratch, not as hard as some people think. Performance issues already solved just by taking this approach, because readymade themes tend to include a lot of scripts and styles which makes Wordpress sites slow like tortoise. You can also implement your own security easily.

Anyway RIP to those that lost their lives in Arkansas, they have 7 virgins waiting for them.
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by niel63(m): 1:35pm On Nov 30, 2020
OP
This is like asking someone, which OS is the best for programming, Windows, Linux, or MAC. Dude they all exist so you can choose which serves you best, which you feel comfortable with, which you like to toil with and which gives you so much joy grin grin grin.
Having an Idea of both or all is not bad too, but take your time. You will find your comfort zone.

No fighting, no fighting #inWyclefJeanVoice

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by sulaak(m): 1:37pm On Nov 30, 2020

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Nobody: 1:40pm On Nov 30, 2020
Nodejs is faster base on my research
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by devfolorunso: 1:42pm On Nov 30, 2020
Godada:


Well, that is because there other options like node js, go, and c#.

But I'll say that everything depends on the application's requirements.
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by MT: 1:46pm On Nov 30, 2020
In 2020, Nairaland so-called programmers are still arguing over which tech stack is better than the others. Shake my head.

The little you knew, which real life problems have you been able to use it to solve?

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by ProfAmaben(m): 1:49pm On Nov 30, 2020
tosinhtml:


Assumptions Assumptions Assumptions. Assumptions flying every where!

Everyone of us assumes about the technology we don't know about, Someone says Mern stack is the worse, another says PHP covers 70% of the web so people should learn it instead. Another says don't learn it cause It sounds like PDP.

Ironically, an ideal way to create a Wordpress website is to create the Theme from scratch, not as hard as some people think. Performance issues already solved just by taking this approach, because readymade themes tend to include a lot of scripts and styles which makes Wordpress sites slow like tortoise. You can also implement your own security easily.

Anyway RIP to those that lost their lives in Arkansas, they have 7 virgins waiting for them.

So let's blame PHP's slowness on verbose scripts and styles. I really think that it's slowness chiefly comes from the fact that it is mainly the first language most programmers start with fresh out of college, or when learning programming.

Most pick up bad habits and don't observe proper On standards due to their initial novice level. I wouldn't advice anyone to learn php in 2020 cos it's severely limited to backend development. JavaScript is the best cos you can do loads with it, even machine learning.

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by Maj196(m): 1:53pm On Nov 30, 2020
Am loving it, especially with Laravel, Gosh!!
Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by iamwhat: 1:55pm On Nov 30, 2020
NEVER LEARN PHP IN 2020

http://linkedin.com/in/mohemos

That's my linkedin profile.

I guess I'm the best person to advise you... After using PHP (Laravel, Smarty) for 5 Years and currently using Nodejs

TLDR; (The short answer is) : LEARN JAVASCRIPT then NODE.JS

I earn $20/hour working remotely using NODE.JS & REACT.JS

Long answer, picked from stackoveflow 2020 survey:
Similar to last year, we asked about many of the other miscellaneous technologies that developers are using. For the second year in a row, Node.js takes the top spot, as it is used by half of the respondents. We also see growth across the board in the popularity of data analysis and machine learning technologies such as Pandas, TensorFlow, and Torch/PyTorch.


https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-other-frameworks-libraries-and-tools-professional-developers3

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Re: Why Is PHP Not Considered As A Best Backend For Web Development Again by AntiWailer: 1:59pm On Nov 30, 2020
OAUTemitayo:

Php is still the easiest language that get things done easily. All the nonsense installation node brings to you can be frustrating.
And many enterprise environment use PHP. Yes, js libraries are more scalable and faster, PHP can do almost anything on web.

Bro,

I have said this 10 years ago and still repeating it.

Don't waste Ur time learning PHP.

Tell me the enterprise environments using PHP in Nigeria.

I can tell you Banks , Telecom, Fin Techs don't use PHP.

If you know any and the product built with PHP. I am happy discuss.

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