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Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Lazenby007(m): 6:01pm On Dec 09, 2020
Buhari will never finish his second tenure!
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by blackpanda: 6:04pm On Dec 09, 2020
Elvictor:
grin

this is what happens when you are operating with a none consensus constitution, but a constitution written by greedy elects to hold on to power for their unborn generations.

if NASS can't invite a president for questioning, what right does citizens have to ask for accountability?

it a common knowledge we are not practicing democracy neither are we practicing federal system of government, everything that has to do with the system have been bastardize.

there is a question we are yet to ask, when we obtained democracy in 1999 are our leaders aware of what they agreed to? are they aware that we won't be practicing true federalism as a bargain for democracy?

was it why the effort to restructure the country to true federalism was meant with stiff opposition? who are those benefiting from this structure that leaders are not accountable and can remain in powers until death do them apart?

why is the president electing INEC officials if our votes can count contrary to our president demands?

is high time we restructured this country and bring our leaders home from Abuja, the early the better. we can't be blaming Abuja for our miseries and our grandchildren continue from where we stopped.

if the president of America was the one appointing judiciary heads would there have been any opposing elements to his demands? we have a judiciary that works for the president because they are grateful to him by appointing them, why don't we measure success with hard-work than favour?

I do t think you know what u are saying. The american president appoints the judges of the supreme court. Infact in america's case it's even worse, all the justices are highly partisan
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by blackpanda: 6:05pm On Dec 09, 2020
bayelsaowei:
Shey ona dey see?

But they can impeach him right?

Wrong. They can try.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by steeltrust: 6:05pm On Dec 09, 2020
Elvictor:
grin

this is what happens when you are operating with a none consensus constitution, but a constitution written by greedy elects to hold on to power for their unborn generations.

if NASS can't invite a president for questioning, what right does citizens have to ask for accountability?

it a common knowledge we are not practicing democracy neither are we practicing federal system of government, everything that has to do with the system have been bastardize.

there is a question we are yet to ask, when we obtained democracy in 1999 are our leaders aware of what they agreed to? are they aware that we won't be practicing true federalism as a bargain for democracy?

was it why the effort to restructure the country to true federalism was meant with stiff opposition? who are those benefiting from this structure that leaders are not accountable and can remain in powers until death do them apart?

why is the president electing INEC officials if our votes can count contrary to our president demands?

is high time we restructured this country and bring our leaders home from Abuja, the early the better. we can't be blaming Abuja for our miseries and our grandchildren continue from where we stopped.

if the president of America was the one appointing judiciary heads would there have been any opposing elements to his demands? we have a judiciary that works for the president because they are grateful to him by appointing them, why don't we measure success with hard-work than favour?
helinus de come for u
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Nchenches: 6:06pm On Dec 09, 2020
In other words, PMB is not accountable to Nigerians.

The NASS, however lopsided in population, represents Nigerians.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Sermwell(m): 6:07pm On Dec 09, 2020
tj2018:
why do we always have controversial Attorney Generals.. biko nu
Because their allegiance is to the president and not the constitution. Their appointment is political, and this is not supposed to be so.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Nobody: 6:07pm On Dec 09, 2020
Esseite:
The precedences Buhari has set In this country, we might be needing a national conference/confab after him to douse non-chalant attitudes of future presidents.


God bless you.... That's my fear because a more terrible person would use it as excuse to finish this country.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Nchenches: 6:13pm On Dec 09, 2020
Elvictor:
grin

this is what happens when you are operating with a none consensus constitution, but a constitution written by greedy elects to hold on to power for their unborn generations.

if NASS can't invite a president for questioning, what right does citizens have to ask for accountability?

it a common knowledge we are not practicing democracy neither are we practicing federal system of government, everything that has to do with the system have been bastardize.

there is a question we are yet to ask, when we obtained democracy in 1999 are our leaders aware of what they agreed to? are they aware that we won't be practicing true federalism as a bargain for democracy?

was it why the effort to restructure the country to true federalism was meant with stiff opposition? who are those benefiting from this structure that leaders are not accountable and can remain in powers until death do them apart?

why is the president electing INEC officials if our votes can count contrary to our president demands?

is high time we restructured this country and bring our leaders home from Abuja, the early the better. we can't be blaming Abuja for our miseries and our grandchildren continue from where we stopped.

if the president of America was the one appointing judiciary heads would there have been any opposing elements to his demands? we have a judiciary that works for the president because they are grateful to him by appointing them, why don't we measure success with hard-work than favour?

PMB is shielded by the lopsided political representation favoring Buhari’s far north- lopsided political representation derived from the skewed political structure of 20 states in the northern region but 17 states in the two southern regions that formed independent Nigeria with the northern region.

Through this skewed political structure created by north through its loyal military dictators, the Buhari’s of northern Nigeria can do anything they want about Nigeria - no consequences if what they did was bad.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Yankee101: 6:17pm On Dec 09, 2020
Impeach Buhari and Malami automatically loses his job. Nonsense
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Confida: 6:18pm On Dec 09, 2020
So an attorney general can be this daft? Which way Nigeria?
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by optimusprime2(m): 6:18pm On Dec 09, 2020
plaindealer:



The topic is summon, not impeachment.

The legislature can impeach, but the president doesn't have to show up or be present.

Trump was impeached and he was not present so what's your point about impeachment?

My argument is the boldened emphasis on my first quote from your statement that; the legislature cannot summon the executive regarding the "use of power"

I am sure by now you are smart enough to correct that statement.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Nchenches: 6:22pm On Dec 09, 2020
Racoon:
Yeah! So when has it become a norm in our democratic journey that the national assembly of a country cant summon a president? Buhari is now a god that is neither answerable to the NASS or Nigerian people but being shielded away from public scrutiny at all times? So the question remains who is in Aso Rock?

Well, nothing new.A handpicked rubberstamp stooge NASS have no right to summon or impeach a lifeless president. Malami is plain stupid.Everyone under this useless government is just lawless.I guess zombies are enjoying how Buhari is treating them with impunity? Una go get sense by force

Like Mallami is now shielding Buhari-

Andooaka was shielding dead Yar’Adua until some Ministers summoned courage with a memo that declared Yar’Adua’s position vacant.

Shortly after that, the remains of Yar’Adua were flown in to Abuja at the dead of the night. Nigeria got a new president.

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Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by chriscrosss(m): 6:24pm On Dec 09, 2020
Ehn ehn, you don't meant it...senate can't summon president...orisirisi in Nigeria... Meaning no body can even impeach president in Nigeria if he misbehaves... What a failed country... malami.I cry for this country iooo
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Dijita: 6:29pm On Dec 09, 2020
plaindealer:



1. The president is the commander of the Nigerian armed forces, not the legislature. The legislature cannot summon the executive regarding the use of the Nigerian armed forces that's perfectly under the control of the executive according to the Nigerian constitution, that's democracy.

2. Nigeria has 3 Branches of Our Government, the Legislative, Executive and Judicial, all 3 are equal and independent so the legislature doesn't have any statutory or constitutional power to summon the executive or question the executive per the Nigerian armed forces.


Read the Nigerian constitution and while you are at it, civic education.
My dearest God what happen to the educational system in Nigeria? I was on the second page about to throw up before you rescue me. Who thought these people civics?
The legislature can compel neither the president nor the chief justice to appear before them. They can appear voluntarily. The legislature have the power of the purse which they can use to pressure head of ministries to come and give account of there ministries. They also have investigative power which they can use to compel member of the executive branch to give testimony before it. The president can prevent close adviser like his chief of staff or special assistant from honoring legislative invitation.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by sapientia(m): 6:31pm On Dec 09, 2020
plaindealer:



1. The president is the commander of the Nigerian armed forces, not the legislature. The legislature cannot summon the executive regarding the use of the Nigerian armed forces that's perfectly under the control of the executive according to the Nigerian constitution, that's democracy.

2. Nigeria has 3 Branches of Our Government, the Legislative, Executive and Judicial, all 3 are equal and independent so the legislature doesn't have any statutory or constitutional power to summon the executive or question the executive per the Nigerian armed forces.


Read the Nigerian constitution and while you are at it, civic education.

But executive removed the head of judiciary

We quote laws only when it suits us

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Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by naturefellow(m): 6:34pm On Dec 09, 2020
This one can't even pretend to have sense for once!
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Dijita: 6:37pm On Dec 09, 2020
chriscrosss:
Ehn ehn, you don't meant it...senate can't summon president...orisirisi in Nigeria... Meaning no body can even impeach president in Nigeria if he misbehaves... What a failed country... malami.I cry for this country iooo
If they have cause they can call him to come and testified in his own impeachment. If he failed to show up he can be impeached not because he did not show up but because he did not defend the allegation against him.
The moment the legislature have the power to force president to appear before them they have become more powerful than the president. The 3 branches of government are equal and as such one cannot force the other to appear before it. It is the principle of separate and equal.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Dijita: 6:45pm On Dec 09, 2020
sapientia:


But executive removed the head of judiciary

We quote laws only when it suits us

You are right to point it out. The president doesn't have the power to remove the chief justice that is why many people kicked against it when it was done. I think the president was able to do that because of weak legislature and corrupt judiciary. Also, although they are equal, the president enjoy the highest privilege

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Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Jonathan39: 6:55pm On Dec 09, 2020
Dead men tells no tale grin grin
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by jaxxy(m): 6:55pm On Dec 09, 2020
Elvictor:
grin

this is what happens when you are operating with a none consensus constitution, but a constitution written by greedy elects to hold on to power for their unborn generations.

if NASS can't invite a president for questioning, what right does citizens have to ask for accountability?

it a common knowledge we are not practicing democracy neither are we practicing federal system of government, everything that has to do with the system have been bastardize.

there is a question we are yet to ask, when we obtained democracy in 1999 are our leaders aware of what they agreed to? are they aware that we won't be practicing true federalism as a bargain for democracy?

was it why the effort to restructure the country to true federalism was meant with stiff opposition? who are those benefiting from this structure that leaders are not accountable and can remain in powers until death do them apart?

why is the president electing INEC officials if our votes can count contrary to our president demands?

is high time we restructured this country and bring our leaders home from Abuja, the early the better. we can't be blaming Abuja for our miseries and our grandchildren continue from where we stopped.

if the president of America was the one appointing judiciary heads would there have been any opposing elements to his demands? we have a judiciary that works for the president because they are grateful to him by appointing them, why don't we measure success with hard-work than favour?

Nice said and very accurate bt sadly we had a chance to correct these anomalies b4 Buhari especially during Jonathan’s time bt nobody care to now the loopholes are being taken advantage off. Nobody cried for restructuring and true federalism during Buhari’s time besides Apc who was the opposition then and like we have seen it was only for selfish gain and interests as they have turned their back on everything they fought for and fought with.

If Pdp enter they might do same because they are all selfish unless we find a way to demand and ensure it’s done.

Most people even clamoring for it now are doing cos of Buhari if he leaves they might all cool down who knows.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Cmeo(m): 6:57pm On Dec 09, 2020
Major reason we need a new constitution in this country called Nigeria.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by portplus: 6:57pm On Dec 09, 2020
bayelsaowei:
buhari can't answer questions in real time about his governance ...

I can bet my whole salary for December if buhari presents himself to answer thought provoking questions even for 30mins...


You are right. It's a "no show" except they will allow him read a daft, shallow and poorly prepared speech as usual.

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Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by CSTRR: 7:06pm On Dec 09, 2020
And this hopelessly corrupt quota system attorney general does not see anything wrong with that constitution?

A constitution where the representative of the people can not invite an elected president to give account of his stewardship.

If UK says they are practising democracy, Nigeria too will raise up their hands?
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Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by plaindealer: 7:07pm On Dec 09, 2020
Dijita:

My dearest God what happen to the educational system in Nigeria? I was on the second page about to throw up before you rescue me. Who thought these people civics?
The legislature can compel neither the president nor the chief justice to appear before them. They can appear voluntarily. The legislature have the power of the purse which they can use to pressure head of ministries to come and give account of there ministries. They also have investigative power which they can use to compel member of the executive branch to give testimony before it. The president can prevent close adviser like his chief of staff or special assistant from honoring legislative invitation.


This is your opinion which you are entitled to, but it's not constitutional facts unless you are able to show us the particular portion of the constitution that opined that the legislature can demand the appearance of the president which I'm 100% you can not, all you have is your own opinion that's not rooted in constitutional facts and precedents.

Power of the purse or investigation has nothing to do with summoning the executive. Try at least by showing us the relevant part in the Nigerian constitution that says the legislature can summon the executive.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by CSTRR: 7:07pm On Dec 09, 2020
Dijita:

If they have cause they can call him to come and testified in his own impeachment. If he failed to show up he can be impeached not because he did not show up but because he did not defend the allegation against him.
The moment the legislature have the power to force president to appear before them they have become more powerful than the president. The 3 branches of government are equal and as such one cannot force the other to appear before it. It is the principle of separate and equal.
This is absolute nonsense.

Shut up.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by plaindealer: 7:11pm On Dec 09, 2020
sapientia:


But executive removed the head of judiciary

We quote laws only when it suits us


Like when GEJ illegally removed Sanusi, the head of the CBN.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Dijita: 7:19pm On Dec 09, 2020
optimusprime2:


I have a couple of questions for you since we are delving into civic education...

1. Who begins the process of impeachment to the executive arm of government?
b) on what grounds can impeachment be triggered?

2. The US runs a democratic government model, give a detailed analysis of the impeachment hearing against president Donald Trump on December 18 2019?
b) list the proponents and list the accusations of the impeachment.

3. With the answers provided from 1 and 2 can a president be summoned by legislature, to answer to "use of power" in a Democratic model which Nigeria practices?

1. Who begins the process of impeachment to the executive arm of government?
The legislature after they have carried out an investigation of the president. during the investigation president Trump prevented some member of his cabinet from appearing before congress see picture 1 below or read from this link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/turley-impeachment.html

b) on what grounds can impeachment be triggered?
Article II, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution defines the grounds for impeachment and conviction as ''treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

2. The US runs a democratic government model, give a detailed analysis of the impeachment hearing against president Donald Trump on December 18 2019?
Trump was impeached for abuse of power and obstruction of congress
see picture 2 and 3 below and detail in the following link
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres755/BILLS-116hres755enr.pdf
b) list the proponents and list the accusations of the impeachment.
You will see your answer in the link provided

3. With the answers provided from 1 and 2 can a president be summoned by legislature, to answer to "use of power" in a Democratic model which Nigeria practices?
Summon as it is used in the context under discussion connote force and authority like judge summoning a defendant or a witness. The legislature did not have the power or authority to compel a president to appear before it the way a judge have the power to summon a defendant or a witness. This was demonstrated during the impeachment proceeding against Donald J Trump in USA. It should also be noted that the legislature are acting as judges during impeachment and therefore may be afforded some privileges they may not have during normal cause of business

Bottom line Trump was not impeached for failure to appear before congress but for blocking material witnesses that are his aides from appearing before congress and blocking them from providing government documents to congress

Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Nobody: 7:39pm On Dec 09, 2020
omoplaycool:
All I know is loyalty to the president doesn't make you a patriot.. It is the nation first before anything

This is Aondoaka and Yaradua all over again. This country is not progressing. This country has offended God.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Shattuck(m): 7:41pm On Dec 09, 2020
plaindealer:



1. The president is the commander of the Nigerian armed forces, not the legislature. The legislature cannot summon the executive regarding the use of the Nigerian armed forces that's perfectly under the control of the executive according to the Nigerian constitution, that's democracy.

2. Nigeria has 3 Branches of Our Government, the Legislative, Executive and Judicial, all 3 are equal and independent so the legislature doesn't have any statutory or constitutional power to summon the executive or question the executive per the Nigerian armed forces.


Read the Nigerian constitution and while you are at it, civic education.
the president can be summoned concerning the security situation and human right abuse by the military, and also questioned. your argument of being the commander of the armed forces does not make him immune to query, if you can't sack your failed service chiefs then you need to answer why.
Re: Malami: National Assembly Has No Power To Summon Buhari by Dijita: 7:44pm On Dec 09, 2020
plaindealer:



This is your opinion which you are entitled to, but it's not constitutional facts unless you are able to show us the particular portion of the constitution that opined that the legislature can demand the appearance of the president which I'm 100% you can not, all you have is your own opinion that's not rooted in constitutional facts and precedents.

Power of the purse or investigation has nothing to do with summoning the executive. Try at least by showing us the relevant part in the Nigerian constitution that says the legislature can summon the executive.



Dear friend your writing skill betrayed the interpretation you gave my comment. Please read again. You missed the use of "neither" and "nor"

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