MyGeneration:

How are the fulanis trying to divide us?

U ate trying to caution against tribalism on we igbos but u are trying to do it to the fulanis, what exactly did the fulanis do to u, sometimes I get tired in discussions like this cause u can't be fighting on one side the other side is shooting u on the foot

If you have been on nairaland politics section for long enough you will understand.

MyGeneration:

Mynd44 come and save me from my master

twutin1:


If you have been on nairaland politics section for long enough you will understand.

I have been on nairaland since 2009 this is my fourth account, explain to me how fulanis are trying ti divide us and how it's evident on nairaland

MyGeneration:

I have been on nairaland since 2009 this is my fourth account, explain to me how fulanis are trying ti divide us and how it's evident on nairaland

I will take you to a different thread.

twutin1:


I will take you to a different thread.

Quote me on it. Where fulanis tried to divide us.

As far as we keep acting like this we won't go anywhere, instead of addressing issues we point fingers causing more problem, we haven't finished with this yoruba thread u on ur own out of nowhere dragged fulanis into it, when the fulanis come and start their own issue u will out of nowhere drag yorubas into it, what kind of all round problem are u looking for

MyGeneration:

Continue lieing o. Because una get lagos na and Nigerians flock lagos and d benefits are spilling into other SW states so for una mind SW is now hospitable.

Do u think people travel in Nigeria cause if hospitality? Even in the most unsecure states in Nigeria people still go there if there are opportunities

I have spoken the truth.

The Ibos eat their wealth alone, but they wont hessitate to eat from the plates of other tribes.

How many non Ibos are working for innoson and co?

How many non igbos are working in the east?

The east is not a place for non Ibos.

Truth most be told bf its too late.

What has the Ibos done for their host states? Despite all the wealth they have amassed from these states.

The Ibo will have 1 billion in his account and will still find it very difficult to give somebody in need of 20k. He always has one project or the other to executes through out his life and will contribute nothing to the betterment of others.

I have studied the Ibos properly, all they do is take n never ever give back.

No presidential seat for Ibos,give their slots to the Niger Delta instead.

The most sting tribe in Nigeria.

I rest my case.

LikeAking:


I have spoken the truth.

The Ibos eat their wealth alone, but they wont hessitate to eat from the plates of other tribes.

How man non Ibos are working for innoson and co?

How many non igbos are working in the east?

The east is not a place for non Ibos.

Truth most be told bf its too late.

What has the Ibos done for their host states? Despite all the wealth they have amassed from these states.

The Ibo will have 1 billion in hos account and will still find it very difficult to give somebody in need 20k. He always has one project or the other to executes through out his life and will contribute nothing to the betterment of others.

I have studied the Ibos properly, all they do is take n never ever give back.

No presidental seat for Ibos, instead give their slots to the Niger Delta.

I rest my case.

I have nothing to say to u on your childish banter so rest your case and continue with whatever u want to think

MyGeneration:

I have nothing to say to u on your childish banter so rest your case and continue with whatever u want to think

The truth will always win.

LikeAking:


The truth will always win.

If u rest your case without wanting to hear the other side you shouldn't be bothered about the truth. Just make ur ignorant opinion and pass

This life I have learnt alot, I learnt to be myself cause peoples minds are made up, just be good and live a good life never try to please anybody and inconvenience yourself.

You would be trying to claim generous u would be giving to people so tomorrow they won't say y are stingy one day settle down and ask yourself this person I dae buy for him don buy for me before?

Don't inconvenience yourself because u no want bear him stingy cause the one day. U refused to give cause u don't have the same people who hailed u when u Gave until u had nothing will still say.


I know na, igbo people na so dem dae.

Igbo always use ur akonuche

MyGeneration:

Let us understand.

He was crying cause of the cost of living, so because cost of living in south east is high therefore igbos are not hospitable, listen to yourself talk.

How would the cost if living in the east be low wen the east in neither an agrarian or industrial zone? Even pikin them born today know say things for north cheap pass the entire south in general it's not about igbo land.

Try and reason objectively

Because you people are allergic to the truth, you will never admit to truth. How I wish Ibos can be as accommodating as the tribes they run to live every day. Ego is an Ibo man's problem. Greed and selfishness are in his blood.

DamZik:
Because you people are allergic to the truth, you will never admit to truth. How I wish Ibos can be as accommodating as the tribes they run to live every day. Ego is an Ibo man's problem. Greed and selfishness are in his blood.

Ok then continue hating.

Your hating no add anything before now neither would it after now

I can see that bad economy has made you to turn your anger towards Igbos,but you forgot that Buhari is the one in charge. Abeg if you don't have job,why not visit Tinubu in order to get a job or better still, you can relocate to any south east to try your luck rather than splitting rubbish online.

DamZik:
As bad as the security situation in the North is, graduates still prefer serving in the North to the East. Hospitality is not part of IBO culture. I have a friend who served in the south east few years ago. He is always feel like crying anytime he is talking about his nysc experience in Ebonyi.
If other tribes are as hostile as Ibos, migrating to Yoruba land or the North won't be their lifelong dream. They would have preferred going to Cameroon instead.

your friend might be lying, quote me anywhere

DamZik:
As bad as the security situation in the North is, graduates still prefer serving in the North to the East. Hospitality is not part of IBO culture. I have a friend who served in the south east few years ago. He is always feel like crying anytime he is talking about his nysc experience in Ebonyi.
If other tribes are as hostile as Ibos, migrating to Yoruba land or the North won't be their lifelong dream. They would have preferred going to Cameroon instead.

trying so hard to discredit the Igbos of their incomparable hospitality.

Why even bother leaving ur region in the first place, when all u are looking for is like-minds Igbo who don't have to relate with other tribes in another man's town abi? Ode!

The earlier u guys change ur ways the better for u and ur Godforsaken region.

MyGeneration:
The major reason why we are having this clash with all these people is our outgoing nature.

Igbos let's learn to live like the northerners when u go to a new area look for areas with strictly igbo and live or rent. Make strictly igbo friends people from other tribes can just be ur friends but always keep them at arm's length, date and marry your fellow igbo leave all these people alone

IamWonderful:
You are quite ignorant of what you are typing or probably you tend to hang on the lies and delusion, stronger group indeed, mere northern youths gave you ultimatum to leave their lands and your elders with their red caps and walking sticks were going around begging and crying for clemency like vagabond, fugitives and IDPs without home, such a pity, as NIGERIA is concern you are third class citizens, that was why you are easily marginalized without consequence because you are inconsequential and insignificant.

More wailings

The only inconsequential people in this country today are Swesteners .....the north has absolutely no respect for you Except as willing tools in their cold war against igbos, You lots are as disposable as an overnight baby diaper

MyGeneration:

Ok then continue hating.

Your hating no add anything before now neither would it after now

You think I'm hating. Your perception is different from reality. It is not hating and I don't think you love Ibos more than me even though I am a westerners. I have met many easterners in my life and they are great people but the fact is that majority are hostile and tribalistic more than tyrant Buhari.

DamnnNiggarr:
your friend might be lying, quote me anywhere

What did an Evangelist wants to gain from lying against and blackmailing Ibos. NYSC is just for a period of eleven months and he probably can't go back there again. My point is that it will be fair is Ibos make their region comfortable for aliens, the same privilege they enjoy elsewhere. How many hausas or yorubas are in Eastern tertiary institutions let alone civil service? Come to South-West, we are happy to have you guys in multitude.
My prayer is that may there be mutual love among tribes in Nigeria.

Vanzcharles:



That was then I'm talking about 10-15 years ago. Stop arguing what you font know. My cousin was denied by his dept. This he ran for Sug presido in uniuyo because he was non indigine.
Mist schools in the southern Nigeria presents indigines as sug presido.

They were criterias used then to be a presido them in Zaria. We had not so many northerners in the 80s when Melaye gained admission. The northerners then were few and not so interested in school politics. The few who were interested weren't all that sound academically.

My friend stop shifting goal posts.

There are so many more non-indigenes in the North, from Academia to Traders to Civil servants than in the S/East and their societies bare more welcoming bto outsiders than Igbo societies.

Their major problem is Islamic Extremism!


I am NOT abusing the Igbos but stating my clear observations about different parts of Nigeria.

I am a very liberal person who believes that we can NOT all think and act alike, so I welcome differences in our receptions to outsiders.

However I strongly object to your insinuations that all parts of Nigeria view and respond to non-indigenes in the same ways.

oyatz:


My friend stop shifting goal posts.

There are so many more non-indigenes in the North, from Academia to Traders to Civil servants than in the S/East and their societies bare more welcoming bto outsiders than Igbo societies.

Their major problem is Islamic Extremism!


I am NOT abusing the Igbos but stating my clear observations about different parts of Nigeria.

I am a very liberal person who believes that we can NOT all think and act alike, so I welcome differences in our receptions to outsiders.

However I strongly object to your insinuations that all parts of Nigeria view and respond to non-indigenes in the same ways.

Shutup talk what u know.

Do u think people go to places because they give a damn abt the indegenes as far as there's opportunities people would always endure.

North that has almost all Nigerian security assets and infrastructures is the region u are comparing to southeast a region that doesn't even have federal roads...

Tell us another story

oyatz:


My friend stop shifting goal posts.

There are so many more non-indigenes in the North, from Academia to Traders to Civil servants than in the S/East and their societies bare more welcoming bto outsiders than Igbo societies.

Their major problem is Islamic Extremism!


I am NOT abusing the Igbos but stating my clear observations about different parts of Nigeria.

I am a very liberal person who believes that we can NOT all think and act alike, so I welcome differences in our receptions to outsiders.

However I strongly object to your insinuations that all parts of Nigeria view and respond to non-indigenes in the same ways.

I dont know what you tend to achieve with this argument that 'only the igbos display tribalism in public offices'.
I have explained, it is left for your assumptions. I know of many schools, even in Rivers state. Most State and public uni. Down to Bayelsa and NDU.

I'm done here, whatever your narrative maybe. I am only stating mine that it cuts across because I have indirectly witnessed it. I didn't school in the east.

DamZik:
What did an Evangelist wants to gain from lying against and blackmailing Ibos. NYSC is just for a period of eleven months and he probably can't go back there again. My point is that it will be fair is Ibos make their region comfortable for aliens, the same privilege they enjoy elsewhere. How many hausas or yorubas are in Eastern tertiary institutions let alone civil service? Come to South-West, we are happy to have you guys in multitude.
My prayer is that may there be mutual love among tribes in Nigeria.

The issue is simple. In the Eastern part of the country, we have lesser people from other tribes compared with the west and North.
Now, if per adventure they are approx. 15% of population, those 15% cuts across different categories of work thereby in every sector they may not be up to 10.
You grab!!
Check Lagos for example in comparison to Ondo or Osun state. We have fewer igbos in Osun state and ondi state unlike Lagos. In Lagos increasing the percentage of igbos to 35%. You see that it us like twice the number of foreigners in eastern state compared to Igbos in Lagos state.

DamZik:
Because you people are allergic to the truth, you will never admit to truth. How I wish Ibos can be as accommodating as the tribes they run to live every day. Ego is an Ibo man's problem. Greed and selfishness are in his blood.

Your argument is baseless. What stops you from relocating to the east? Who tilr you they are not accommodating? Where are you getting all these trash from.
You've not even visited the east for once neither lived there. They are not accommodating yet we have the ibibios, efiks, rivers coming down to do businesses, buying and selling.
The Hausas buys market from Onitsha sends it to jos ( machine spare parts). You don't even travel go and ask.

Honestly, I pray that this country is divided in peace. The Yorubas have shown time without number their obsession with Igbos. The question I keep asking is why?

MyGeneration:

Shutup talk what u know.

Do u think people go to places because they give a damn abt the indegenes as far as there's opportunities people would always endure.

North that has almost all Nigerian security assets and infrastructures is the region u are comparing to southeast a region that doesn't even have federal roads...

Tell us another story

The problems with obviously biased and uninformed people is that they keep shifting the goal posts.


My assertion is not about roads or security apparatus but orientation of peoples in different parts of Nigeria towards outsiders (non-indigenes).

My observations;

1) Most Nigerians have reservations and sometimes resentments towards other Nigerians that are not from their ethnic groups to different degrees.

2) The Yorubas are liberal towards outsiders possibly due to longer periods of mixing with other ethnic groups which make up the present Nigeria long before 1914.
The Oyo Empire, the transatlantic slave trade and later British Colonialism brought the Yorubas into contacts with so many other ethnic groups from far and near for centuries.

3) The Hausa-Fulani are religious and conservative people. The Sokoto Caliphate was already an amalgamation of so many different peoples united under the banner of Islam.
In as much as Islamic cultures are not threatened by the outsiders or better still if the outsiders also practice the Islamic cultures, they embrace the outsiders well.

3) The Igbos seems to understand and trust their neighbours like Efik, Ibibio, Anang, Ijaw,Ogoni more than other Nigerians.

They however have reservations about non-Igbos especially if these non-Igbos stand to share certain resources or privileges with them.

This doesn't necessarily mean they hate the non-Igbos.

DamZik:
What did an Evangelist wants to gain from lying against and blackmailing Ibos. NYSC is just for a period of eleven months and he probably can't go back there again. My point is that it will be fair is Ibos make their region comfortable for aliens, the same privilege they enjoy elsewhere. How many hausas or yorubas are in Eastern tertiary institutions let alone civil service? Come to South-West, we are happy to have you guys in multitude.
My prayer is that may there be mutual love among tribes in Nigeria.

after all, pastors, reverends bishops do lie on the pulpit talk more of a mere evangelist. blackmailing of the Igbos have been a thing of the Yorubas from time immemorial, ranging from pokenosing into their culture and tradition to their personal lives.
He didn't go there means he doesn't want to go, so there shouldn't supposed to be a fuse about it.
Igbo land is very comfortable, you don't just sit in your abode and know what's going on in another man's land or based on your assumptions of what your "evangelical friend" told you about Igbo land. when Igbo man goes to a certain region, he works very hard ranging from hawking of wares to other menial jobs while looking for the next available opportunity such can't be said for Yorubas( how many Yorubas can do that in Igbo land??) except for the Hausas and Kwaran girls that do all menial jobs as well ranging from gate man to shoe menders hawking of Agbo traditional medicine etc. No one gives the Igbo man hospitality or things on a platter of gold when he goes to another man's land as you all claim, what ever he has is based on his consistent struggles and hard work. When you( Yorubas and Hausas) go to another man's land, don't wait for quota system, don't expect anyone to come and be pampering you, work hard like the Igbo man, stay away from alcohol and womanism while you keep praying to God for miracle, stay away from an expensive and flamboyant life style( these are the secrets of an Igbo man), no land is flowing with milk and honey. You work hard to make ends meet.
The number of Hausas in Igbo tertiary institutions is what I can't start now to lecture you because you may not understand as you have believed in your mind what your "Evangelical friend" told you because you Refused to make researches by yourself, if you decide to seek admission into any Igbo tertiary institutions, no one is going to scold.

Were it not the same Yorubas that were taunting that akwaibom girl(14-year-old Eshiet Abasiekeme) that won U.B.A assay competition for choosing a university in her home state saying she should look the way to west( UI, Unilag etc)

https://www.nairaland.com/6277159/14-year-old-eshiet-abasiekeme-wins-uba#96411044

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12831897_screenshot20201213123209_pngf6aa024de6fcc09e838ee3d83b1ecfce

so if a Yoruba person can advise someone not to choose a university from his/her home state, do you think that same Yoruba will leave his land for another man's land?? Go to Enugu, my home Bayelsa, Rivers Anambra Delta an see numerous hard working Yorubas competing with the Igbos in both public offices, hustling and private office.
The Igbos have been showing love to other tribes which sometimes not reciprocated, by promoting intertribal marriages, settling and building factories that Worth millions in another man's land but such can't be said for other tribes even our Nigeria, what poverty alleviation/job creating investments does the FG has in the East?? Or Igbo land in general?? 90% of poverty alleviation/job creating investments in the East or Igbo land in general, are based on individual struggle.
Sometimes, let's learn to talk with tribalism aside.

Cc Oyatz
Mygeneration

oyatz:


The problems with obviously biased and uninformed people is that they keep shifting the goal posts.


My assertion is not about roads or security apparatus but orientation of peoples in different parts of Nigeria towards outsiders (non-indigenes).

My observations;

1) Most Nigerians have reservations and sometimes resentments towards other Nigerians that are not from their ethnic groups to different degrees.

2) The Yorubas are liberal towards outsiders possibly due to longer periods of mixing with other ethnic groups which make up the present Nigeria long before 1914.
The Oyo Empire, the transatlantic slave trade and later British Colonialism brought the Yorubas into contacts with so many other ethnic groups from far and near for centuries.

3) The Hausa-Fulani are religious and conservative people. The Sokoto Caliphate was already an amalgamation of so many different peoples united under the banner of Islam.
In as much as Islamic cultures are not threatened by the outsiders or better still if the outsiders also practice the Islamic cultures, they embrace the outsiders well.

3) The Igbos seems to understand and trust their neighbours like Efik, Ibibio, Anang, Ijaw,Ogoni more than other Nigerians.

They however have reservations about non-Igbos especially if these non-Igbos stand to share certain resources or privileges with them.

This doesn't necessarily mean they hate the non-Igbos.

Give me a scenario lets discuss.

You say we have reservations against non igbos if these igbos stand or share certain resources or privilege with us. Give us a scenario and please before u do, give us one that ur people are not guilty of.

DamnnNiggarr:
after all, pastors, reverends bishops do lie on the pulpit talk more of a mere evangelist. blackmailing of the Igbos have been a thing of the Yorubas from time immemorial, ranging from pokenosing into their culture and tradition to their personal lives.
He didn't go there means he doesn't want to go, so there shouldn't supposed to be a fuse about it.
Igbo land is very comfortable, you don't just sit in your abode and know what's going on in another man's land or based on your assumptions of what your "evangelical friend" told you about Igbo land. when Igbo man goes to a certain region, he works very hard ranging from hawking of wares to other menial jobs while looking for the next available opportunity such can't be said for Yorubas( how many Yorubas can do that in Igbo land??) except for the Hausas and Kwaran girls that do all menial jobs as well ranging from gate man to shoe menders hawking of Agbo traditional medicine etc. No one gives the Igbo man hospitality or things on a platter of gold when he goes to another man's land as you all claim, what ever he has is based on his consistent struggles and hard work. When you( Yorubas and Hausas) go to another man's land, to wait for quota system, don't expect anyone to come and be pampering you, work hard like the Igbo man, stay away from alcohol and womanism while you keep praying to God for miracle, stay away from an expensive and flamboyant life style( these are the secrets of an Igbo man), no land is flowing with milk and honey. You work hard to make ends meet.
The number of Hausas in Igbo tertiary institutions is what I can't start now to lecture you because you may not understand as you have believed in your mind what your "Evangelical friend" told you because you Refused to make researches by yourself, if you decide to seek admission into any Igbo tertiary institutions, no one is going to scold.
Were it not the same Yorubas that were taunting that akwaibom girl that won U.B.A assay competition for choosing a university in her home state saying she should look the way to west( UI, Unilag etc) so if a Yoruba person can advise someone not to choose a university from his/her home state, do you think that same Yoruba will leave his land for another man's land?? Go to Enugu, my home Bayelsa, Rivers Anambra Delta an see numerous hard working Yorubas competing with the Igbos in both public offices, hustling and private office.
The Igbos have been showing love to other tribes which sometimes not reciprocated, by promoting intertribal marriages, settling and building factories that Worth millions in another man's land but such can't be said for other tribes even our Nigeria, what poverty alleviation/job creating investments does the FG has in the East?? Or Igbo land in general?? 90% of poverty alleviation/job creating investments in the East or Igbo land in general, are based on individual struggle.
Sometimes, let's learn to talk with tribalism aside.

Cc Oyatz
Mygeneration

Those people are kids.

Igbos go to the north even when the north was a hot bed of religious killings we still go manage our way to get what we want. We don't come home and cry north is not hospitable.

What are there indices to these judgements none can give it, it's just hear say someone told me, etc.

The fact that he says the guy was an evangelist shows how shallow he is, evangelist are people who preach christ they go into tough areas to do that, he goes into ebonyi and starts complaining I question his evangelism.

I answered that guy reason why the evangelist said ebonyi wasn't nice might have nothing to do with the people but underdevelopment, maybe as at that time ebonyi was still underdeveloped infrastructures wise maybe he didn't have access to water, electricity etc, all these had nothing to do with the people but government failure.

He comes and says ebonyi wasn't hospitable. Give us a scenario where corpers have been attacked in igbo land they can't, give us a scenario where a business of an outsider was attacked in igbo land cause of tribalism they can't, give us a scenario like what happened in ondo where a fight between a businessman and a masquerade guy who assaulted him turned to tribal war with yorubas attacking igbos they still can't.

But igbos are not hospitable.

To me I don't give a fvck about what they think my only prayer is our advancement if other Nigerians don't come I believe development wood attract other Africans.

MyGeneration:

Those people are kids.

Igbos go to the north even when the north was a hot bed of religious killings we still go manage our way to get what we want. We don't come home and cry north is not hospitable.

What are there indices to these judgements none can give it, it's just hear say someone told me, etc.

The fact that he says the guy was an evangelist shows how shallow he is, evangelist are people who preach christ they go into tough areas to do that, he goes into ebonyi and starts complaining I question his evangelism.

I answered that guy reason why the evangelist said ebonyi wasn't nice might have nothing to do with the people but underdevelopment, maybe as at that time ebonyi was still underdeveloped infrastructures wise maybe he didn't have access to water, electricity etc, all these had nothing to do with the people but government failure.

He comes and says ebonyi wasn't hospitable. Give us a scenario where corpers have been attacked in igbo land they can't, give us a scenario where a business of an outsider was attacked in igbo land cause of tribalism they can't, give us a scenario like what happened in ondo where a fight between a businessman and a masquerade guy who assaulted him turned to tribal war with yorubas attacking igbos they still can't.

But igbos are not hospitable.

To me I don't give a fvck about what they think my only prayer is our advancement if other Nigerians don't come I believe development wood attract other Africans.

Cc Damzik

Fahdiga1:
I know countless Yoruba people being offered jobs in Anambra state but due to their bigotry they rejected them claiming that they can't work with flat headed people. you can imagine such tribalism from Yorubas towards people that wants to help them

And those Same Yorubas, as ugly as they usually are, will be under the Onitsha headbridge begging Igbos for money, in spite of the fact that they've been offered employment by Anambra state