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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:19am On Dec 10, 2020
birdman:
For real, Im all ears. Name 2 or 3 players that worsened under Lebron
George Hill, Kevin Love, Hell Chris Bosh became a spot up shooter playing with LeNomad

Of course the latter two won titles but did they improve?

All I'm saying is you guys should not shoot yourselves in the foot with this narrative because for every Kyrie you attribute their excellence to LeNomad I will raise you two players who didn't improve playing with him

birdman:
grin before last season some people would have given draymond max contract. people were touting hes a positionless player, etc
Lmaoooo anyone giving Draymond max contract will not last long as a GM

You can't contend for anything with Draymond as anything other than your 3rd best player

birdman:
No doubt, he deserves props for that series. And no doubt without him they likely dont make those clutch jumpers to seal the win. But you can see why people are bagging on him. I dont know what is going on on his head, of all the people you could attack, you take down your teamate from a championship run, same thing talk down your team mates in boston. I hope he knows Durant can be even more vengeful should he try this on the Nets
I understand why people are bagging on him. They are not wrong to but what's unfair is giving another man credit for what he actually did in that post season
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 5:04am On Dec 10, 2020
A40:
George Hill, Kevin Love, Hell Chris Bosh became a spot up shooter playing with LeNomad
K Love and Bosh are easy to explain and have little to do with with Lebron per se. If you go from being #1 option on a bad team to #3 option on a good team, your stats will drop. But they both got really good contracts out of it, no? And championship pedigree. Except both just decided to retire after rather than test the market. Yeah Love hasnt retired, but d guy wan peme for cleveland. Bosh also had health issues

George Hill was a great system guy with the spurs. But he is not a scorer so there isnt much Lebron can do for that type of guy. But its not Lebron's fault. Look at how Caruso and Rondo capitalized on all those open looks, Rondo was looking like a slasher. Hill had those same looks, and couldnt make them. Not Lebrons fault.

Lebron is not turning everybody into stars, but I dont see anybody in the league upgrading as many fellow players. An example to watch will be Harrell. If he changes his game a bit, his stats will go up playing with Lebron.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:00pm On Dec 10, 2020
Thanos:
rondo a decent playmaker? I mean he might not be the force he was but the legend of playoff rondo is real. I do understand why there would be a need to change things up a little bit. The west has gotten considerably tougher. And they needed to get younger in the guard position as I believe there would be a lot of "load management " from LBJ this season to keep him fresh for the playoffs. AD is being set up for an MVP season and why i so recognize his chops as an elite rim protector. We cannot gloss over the fact that the considerable size advantage Lakers is lost due to the departures of Dwight and McGee. You just hope this won't be exploited by teams like philly/Denver who seem to be stocking up on giants at all positions
We tricked the entire league into thinking going big is the way to win, now we switching things up and going smaller. We gat something cooking for the league grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:09pm On Dec 10, 2020
The entire NBA fandom mad that ESPN ranked their guys so low on the list grin. Lol. This ain't 2016, Dame has been cooking in this league for the past 2-3 years. Curry hasn't played for a year, let's wait and see if he picks up from where he left off then we can reconsider. Same with KD, he can't continue to rest on his laurels of best scorer in the league. This is 2020, let's see how you perform off that Achilles then we can talk about getting you back in the top 5. As for AD grin, I didn't envisage he'll be that high tbh, but he's the best two-way player in the league at the moment. F*ck what y'all heard about Kawhi, we saw holes in his defensive game last season.

But by and large, ESPN really got balls coming up with this top 10 grin

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:14pm On Dec 10, 2020
On one hand they'll say LeBron had two allstars, and on the other they'll say K. Love averaged 8.5points grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Hohenheim(m): 5:39pm On Dec 10, 2020
Lmao so now Dame is better than Steph? Ok o.
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 8:36pm On Dec 10, 2020
ESPN is just trolling people with their rankings. There is no planet where Lillard is ranked ahead of Harden atm.
Give Harden that Portland team and he will at least take it to the conference finals.
We have given Lillard too much leeway for many years for the sake of faux loyalty while he keeps enjoying supermax dollars.
Even Jamal Murray has had more playoffs impact that dame Lillard

Talent wise that Portland team is at worse 4th in the west behind the Lakers, Clippers and Nuggets.
Let's see the usual excuses again at the end of the season.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 9:24pm On Dec 10, 2020
etidy:
ESPN is just trolling people with their rankings. There is no planet where Lillard is ranked ahead of Harden atm.
Give Harden that Portland team and he will at least take it to the conference finals.
We have given Lillard too much leeway for many years for the sake of faux loyalty while he keeps enjoying supermax dollars.
Even Jamal Murray has had more playoffs impact that dame Lillard

Talent wise that Portland team is at worse 4th in the west behind the Lakers, Clippers and Nuggets.
Let's see the usual excuses again at the end of the season.
Which Portland team, the one that was ravaged by injury last season or this present one as constituted?
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 9:55pm On Dec 10, 2020
steady986:
We tricked the entire league into thinking going big is the way to win, now we switching things up and going smaller. We gat something cooking for the league grin
It does not matter what you guys are cooking. You guys are not repeating. Not if my mavs have something to say about it.
tongue
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 10:04pm On Dec 10, 2020
steady986:
The entire NBA fandom mad that ESPN ranked their guys so low on the list grin. Lol. This ain't 2016, Dame has been cooking in this league for the past 2-3 years. Curry hasn't played for a year, let's wait and see if he picks up from where he left off then we can reconsider. Same with KD, he can't continue to rest on his laurels of best scorer in the league. This is 2020, let's see how you perform off that Achilles then we can talk about getting you back in the top 5. As for AD grin, I didn't envisage he'll be that high tbh, but he's the best two-way player in the league at the moment. F*ck what y'all heard about Kawhi, we saw holes in his defensive game last season.

But by and large, ESPN really got balls coming up with this top 10 grin
Guys are making it out as if there's a wide chasm between harden and lillard. The two are practically interchangeable at this point. I do feel lillard benefited from recency bias though. With his heroics in the bubble combined with the media narrative around his loyalty and "love for the grind". lol. Black Americans and their over-glorification of hustle is just weird. But in all I would bump anyone that did not play in the last post season below those that played. So curry and KD should be bumped to 9 and 10. I don't care how good you are. if you are not available, you are useless.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:05pm On Dec 10, 2020
birdman:
K Love and Bosh are easy to explain and have little to do with with Lebron per se. If you go from being #1 option on a bad team to #3 option on a good team, your stats will drop. But they both got really good contracts out of it, no? And championship pedigree. Except both just decided to retire after rather than test the market. Yeah Love hasnt retired, but d guy wan peme for cleveland. Bosh also had health issues
You people have started with the excuses. I thought LeNomad made everyone better. It's not about stats it's about play and influence. KD's and Klay's stats went down when KD joined Golden State but their impact was felt in other ways. Can you honestly say Kevin Love and Chris Bosh's stock went up playing with LeNomad?

Their teams were too loaded not to win championships anyway, both Cleveland and especially Miami

birdman:
George Hill was a great system guy with the spurs. But he is not a scorer so there isnt much Lebron can do for that type of guy. But its not Lebron's fault. Look at how Caruso and Rondo capitalized on all those open looks, Rondo was looking like a slasher. Hill had those same looks, and couldnt make them. Not Lebrons fault.
More excuses. He is exactly the kind of player whose numbers should go up playing with LeNomad, guys like him, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson. Midlevel talent that should look better playing with LeNomad. If you won't blame LeNomad for their poor play then I believe it is especially dubious of you to praise LeNomad for the play of Caruso and a guy like Rondo who has been an all-star and led the league in assists. You can't have it both ways hombre

birdman:
Lebron is not turning everybody into stars, but I dont see anybody in the league upgrading as many fellow players. An example to watch will be Harrell. If he changes his game a bit, his stats will go up playing with Lebron.
LeNomad does not upgrade anybody. Y'all need to stop this myth. If he upgrades then you have to also accept that he downgraded the others whose numbers didn't improve playing with him. If he upgrades players then aren't they supposed to remain better when he leaves??

Harrell averaged 18pts last season if he scores fewer points this season will you agree LeNomad downgraded him or will you solely blame Harrell again?
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:15pm On Dec 10, 2020
Wetin dey always worry this simple minded Bronsexual

Love averaged 18-12, 19-13 and 15-8 in the first 3 series. That's not all-star production? Or who would argue circa 14/16 Kevin Love and Kyrie were not all star caliber
undecided
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:19pm On Dec 10, 2020
Man's really said 2020 was the toughest title run. Where he faced a bunch of rookies and Jimmy Butler and had a 4 month rest midseason grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 10:23pm On Dec 10, 2020
A40:
Man's really said 2020 was the toughest title run. Where he faced a bunch of rookies and Jimmy Butler and had a 4 month rest midseason grin
Pesin wen finally admit say Kyrie’s comments about “Clutch” hurt him..Well, his goons had to take the war to Kyrie by bashing anything the man did on the court.. Want to talk about cheap?
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:37pm On Dec 10, 2020
Roland17:
Pesin wen finally admit say Kyrie’s comments about “Clutch” hurt him..Well, his goons had to take the war to Kyrie by bashing anything the man did on the court.. Want to talk about cheap?
Lmaoooo Kyrie is another bellend but my issue is this guy and why despite doing so much why is he so fuckin insecure. I've never heard an NBA legend of any era talk about this championship is the toughest in league history. No respect for the guys playing with him or before him. And people wonder why the anti LeNomad propaganda will never stop on my end.

How can you tag this Mickey mouse ring the toughest championship? Is it crackkkk?? grin grin Even 2016 was bogus because they had no business going down 3-1 anyway.
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 11:41pm On Dec 10, 2020
Paul George just signed a 4 year $190m extension. I mean,at this point, the flippers are just begging for it. Pandemic P grin agent should be in the running for the MVP for finnessing the clips out of a ring for the next 5 years lol
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 1:27am On Dec 11, 2020
According to statistics Harden is a better scorer, Facilitator and better defender than Lillard.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:02am On Dec 11, 2020
Thanos:
Guys are making it out as if there's a wide chasm between harden and lillard. The two are practically interchangeable at this point. I do feel lillard benefited from recency bias though. With his heroics in the bubble combined with the media narrative around his loyalty and "love for the grind". lol. Black Americans and their over-glorification of hustle is just weird. But in all I would bump anyone that did not play in the last post season below those that played. So curry and KD should be bumped to 9 and 10. I don't care how good you are. if you are not available, you are useless.
No lies
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:12am On Dec 11, 2020
Thanos:
It does not matter what you guys are cooking. You guys are not repeating. Not if my mavs have something to say about it.
tongue
Lol, whohuh Dallas ain't ready yet.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:18am On Dec 11, 2020
Only when it comes to LeBron that all-star equals to 15ppg and 18ppg grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:19am On Dec 11, 2020
Last year's ring still hurts them. LeBron haters right now

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:22pm On Dec 11, 2020
These Bronsexuals no dey gree get sense walahi. How many points per game did Draymond Green average when he was making those all-star games. Receive sense pls


Lmaoooo say na hurt. LeNomad knows he won a Mickey mouse ring that's why man's was crying for respect instead of basking in the achievement. Where have you seen such brazen display of insecurity?

Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 8:00pm On Dec 11, 2020
A40:
Harrell averaged 18pts last season if he scores fewer points this season will you agree LeNomad downgraded him or will you solely blame Harrell again?
Yup. The LeKings table is open, up to you how much you want to eat!
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 8:08pm On Dec 11, 2020
steady986:
Last year's ring still hurts them. LeBron haters right now
Hehehe. They had barely recovered from the comeback from 1-3. To make it worse, nobody is disputing Lebrons #1 status anymore. No more Kawhi, Durant, Harden (lol). 18 years in the league, MVP type numbers every year, 4 rings with different coaches and systems, in quarantine and out of quarantine. Na yam?

Maybe thats why Kyrie is mad, Lebron was the Uncle Drew in last years finals shocked
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:18pm On Dec 11, 2020
birdman:
Yup. The LeKings table is open, up to you how much you want to eat!
Cap. When they ball it's LeNomad. When they flop it's on them. Abeg die this 419 narrative
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:24pm On Dec 11, 2020
birdman:
Hehehe. They had barely recovered from the comeback from 1-3. To make it worse, nobody is disputing Lebrons #1 status anymore. No more Kawhi, Durant, Harden (lol). 18 years in the league, MVP type numbers every year, 4 rings with different coaches and systems, in quarantine and out of quarantine. Na yam?

Maybe thats why Kyrie is mad, Lebron was the Uncle Drew in last years finals shocked
Of course everyone knows LeNomad is the best player of his generation. Who dey dispute am? It's on a season to season basis and he regained his spot this past season. Which is why we find his insecurity amusing. But don't elevate this bubblegum Mickey mouse ring more than what it is
Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 8:35pm On Dec 11, 2020
birdman:
Hehehe. They had barely recovered from the comeback from 1-3. To make it worse, nobody is disputing Lebrons #1 status anymore. No more Kawhi, Durant, Harden (lol). 18 years in the league, MVP type numbers every year, 4 rings with different coaches and systems, in quarantine and out of quarantine. Na yam?

Maybe thats why Kyrie is mad, Lebron was the Uncle Drew in last years finals shocked
You get mouth Sha....Your boy one comot Rockets...you no go beg am make him stay? grin smiley
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:03am On Dec 12, 2020
aliondo:
You get mouth Sha....Your boy one comot Rockets...you no go beg am make him stay? grin smiley
Beg wetin. We cant win a ring with his style of play, but he refuses to change playoff after playoff. We cant get equal value, but I hope we get some excellent pieces.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:27am On Dec 12, 2020
Looks like the Lakers have a rising star in Horton-Tucker. LeBron endorses too, so you know what that means smiley

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:34am On Dec 12, 2020
Mickey Mouse ring, Bugz Bunny ring, Cinderella ring...the ring fits perfectly though. We going for Tarzan ring next year grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:36am On Dec 12, 2020
birdman:
Hehehe. They had barely recovered from the comeback from 1-3. To make it worse, nobody is disputing Lebrons #1 status anymore. No more Kawhi, Durant, Harden (lol). 18 years in the league, MVP type numbers every year, 4 rings with different coaches and systems, in quarantine and out of quarantine. Na yam?

Maybe thats why Kyrie is mad, Lebron was the Uncle Drew in last years finals shocked
It hurts them no doubt grin. But we ain't going nowhere; we here for the long haul
Re: The NBA Begins by Nostradamus: 10:07am On Dec 12, 2020
My favorite game is about to start cool cool cheesy


I know heat will go far,pacers will also go far, Phoenix suns&atl Hawks will spring some shocking surprises.

Philly and warriors will start the season on a bad note,but Philly will later pick up,i don't about the warriors but I'm not expecting much from them.
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