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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Donspicey: 8:22am On Dec 24, 2020
SO REVEALING
MR PRESIDENT, YOU ARE FINISHED
Ayo Oritsejafor to President Goodluck Jonathan.
And President Jonathan responded: “You said what?”
And Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor repeated: “I mean you are finished Mr President.”
And there was a dead silence for a moment before the President of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), the enviable dogged fighter of the Christan cause yet most vilified Christian leader of Nigeria left the Aso Villa in utter disgust and rage. That was indeed the Ayo Oritsejafor metaphor penultimate the 2015 electoral debacle that sent President Goodluck Jonathan packing from Aso Villa.
As the 2015 elections approached and both sides of the political divide began to make frantic moves to decide the course and subsequent outcome of the elections a concerned Northern Muslim and driver to one of the prominent Emirs of the North secretly approached a Northern Clergyman and informed him of the on-going clandestine plans of the Northern Muslim leaders including those who are serving under Goodluck Jonathan’s Governmentt and presumed to be his confidants to make sure that President Goodluck Jonathan was kicked out of power by every possible means and have a Northern Muslim installed as his successor.
The visibly agitated Muslim Good Samaritan had narrated to the equally highly agitated Northern Clergyman how prominent Northern Emirs and politicians of both the ruling PDP and the Opposition APC had gathered in Sokoto under the superintendency of the Sultan of Sokoto in a nocturnal meeting where it was decided under Oath of Secrecy that never would any Northern Muslim support President Goodluck Jonathan’s re-election bid or any future Christian of the nation aspiring to be President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. As part of the ritual processes of enacting the spiritual efficacy of the all-binding Oath and ritually seal it, a live-cow was ritually buried alive in the course of the event to signify the burial of President Goodluck Jonathan’s re-election bid and any other Christian Aspirant to the Presidency.
That human Muslim Angel had implored the already profusely sweating Pastor with every urgency to urgently link up with President Goodluck Jonathan and implore him to act with every urgency to equally spiritually nullify the rittual concoctions of the Caliphate and save the natiion from disintengration. Because as the Angelic messenger stated, the Traditional Doctor who carried out the ritual processes on their behalf warned them that although they would get what they were asking for but it might involve the spilling of much blood if not immediately but after.
To the surprise of the Native Doctor the Northern leaders asked him if it was possible to achieve any political feat without the shadding of blood? This was one of the fundamental reasons why the driver decided to reveal the secret machination in order to seek the means to nullify the said spell. It was stated that the man left the Pastor immediately without collecting a dime from his host, having rejected the money offered to him by the highly elated but agitated Pastor.
Almost immediately the highly agitated Pastor reached out to Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor who as the President of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) had easy access to President Goodluck Jonathan. As would be expected, the equally highly agitated Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor did not waste time in reaching out to President Goodluck Jonathan. After narrating the weird episode to President Jonathan he was informed by the President that he would quickly investigate the matter and act accordingly.
Like Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi, President Goodluck Jonathan exhibited one of the most uncourteous acts of naivity that facilitated his early exit from power. It should be recalled that in the wake of the Northern plan to launch the July 29, 1966 counter-coup d’etat a good Northern Samaritan had rushed to Col Alexander Madiebo and revealed the secret plan against both General Aguiyi-Ironsi and his Igbo kinsmen. On getting hold of the information Madiebo had rushed from his Kaduna Base to Lagos to inform General Ironsi of the impending catastrophe. After listening attentively to the highly agitated Madiebo, Ironsi is his drunken-style jolly-good fellow mentality courteously asked Madiebo to have a seat for a moment.
The now elated Madiebo had thought that Ironsi had begun the necessary contacts with the equally threatened kinsmen to abort the heinous plan. But to his surprise, what he saw and experienced next were to cast cold shudders down his spines and all over his inner and outer human frame. The next moment Madiebo saw Brigadier Ogundipe and Col Yakubu Gowon marched into Ironsi’s office. Few monents later he was summoned to join them. There before the two men Madiebo was commanded by Ironsi to repeat what he told him about the coming counter-coup.
The visibly enraged but obviously betrayed Madiebo repeated the same information just as he narrated to Ironsi. Immediately Gowon countered Madiebo denying any such plan against the Supreme Commander, further demanding from Madiebo to reveal his source of information. Madiebo was put in a sorry state of a Humpty-Dumpty. He saw himself sweating profusely immediately under the severe cold of the airconditioner and could not phantom if what was happening to him was in real life or dream.
It was under that confused state of mind, body and spirit that Ironsi ordered him out of his office and warned him to face his duties as an army officer and stop peddling destructive rumours. Madiebo eventually managed to stagger out of Ironsi’s office and took the next available Train back to his base in Kaduna. The consequence of that ineptitude by a supposed intelligent Army General is hard to explain further, but it has remained one of the major episodes of Nigeria’s dark historical past. The was the same scenario of political stupidity Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor was to find himself.
As soon as Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor left Aso Villa, President Goodluck Jonathan summoned his Chief Security Adviser and scion of Sokoto Caliphate Col Sambo Dasuki and his Principal Secretary Alhaji Hassan Tukur also of Caliphate extraction. The most humble President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria then narrated to the surprise of both men what Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor had just narrated to him and thereafter commissioned both men to investigate the matter immediately and report back to him.
Both men who were evidently part of the clandestine political meeting were surprised because they could not understand how such sensitive information regarding an act executed under the cover of oath of secrecy could get to such a classified enemy of the Caliphate as Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor. It was therefore decided by both men that for their plan to work out most effectively the person of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor must either be destroyed or kept out of the way by every possible means. That was how Pastor Oritsejafor’s woes as President of the Christian Association of Nigeria began, which subsequently paved way for President Jonathan’s free-fall from the pinnacle of Nigeria’s Presidency.
As would be expected, a verdict of false alarm and distructive information was immediately returned to their eargerly waiting and easily malleable boss with the rider that he should be cautious of his closeness to Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor in order not to jeopardize his chances for re-election. President Jonathan eventually invited Pastor Oritsejafor to inform him courteously that what he narrated to him earlier was at best a fake news. When Pastor Oritsejafor arrived at the Villa President Jonathan addressed him in his usual humble manner characteristic of his personality. “You see my President,” for that was what he usually called Pastor Oritsejafor as the President of the Christian Association of Nigeria; “I have investigated that story you told me about the ritual cow and Sokoto meeting and found it to be false and unfounded.” It was at that point that Pastor Oritsejafor bursted out in anger and said “Mr President you are finished.”
The West Niger Igbo say, “onye ni maho ebe mmili si mabaa, a ma makwa ebe o si kwusu i mani.” Interpreted it means, a person who did not know where the rain began to beat him will never know whre it stopped beating him. Oftentimes most people tend to pass value judgments without raising some critical questions penultimate the matter under disputation. There is no gainsaying the fact that President Goodluck Jonathan was a very fine gentleman in politics, broad-minded and slow to judgment. But that he was naive and an utter stranger to the realities and responsibilitiesof his time at the detriment of those whose political future depended mostly on his exalted position cannot be disputed.
That was Pastor Oritsejafor’s temperamental disposition towards President Jonathan’s docility woven in acute naivity in handling such an obvious sensitive information which was critical to his survival in office. An intelligent and reasonably sensitive President to the audacious callings of his office should have consulted a highly technical inner caucus of confidants within his ethno-religious band-width to handle the information. For Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor however, his patriotic zeal and unquenchable desire to see that the Nigerian Christians assume their rightful place in the political schemes of their nation soon became a nightmare and counter-product to his towering personality.
As earlier pointed out, the Caliphate could not understand how their secret ritual deal got to the knowledge of such unexpected personality as Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor and thus became alarmed. It equally became obvious to them that unless Pastor Oritsejafor was destroyed and permanently divested of whatever influence he had over both President Goodluck Jonathan and the teaming Nigerian Christian population of Nigeria their plan of extinguishing the political ambitions of President Goodluck Jonathan will not come to fruition. Thus Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor saw himself placed at the firing range of President Goodluck Jonathan’s political detractors and scuttlers of his re-election bid.
It is important to note that part of the resolution of the ritual cow-driven Sokoto meeting was for all Northern Muslim political leaders of the two major political parties PDP and APC to unite under one discreet political umbrella and make sure that President Jonathan did not succeed in his re-election bid. There General Muhammadu Buhari was unanimously nominated as their preferred candidate with the condition that he would serve for only one term in office because of his age and ill-health, with Alhaji Atiku Abubakar taking over the reins of the Presidency after.
This shadow election was initially opposed by the likes of Bukola Saraki and Rabiu Kwankwaso who equally had the ambition to contest for the Presidency, but they were quickly called to order and Bukola Saraki in particular was stronglyreminded that his Yoruba name “Bukola” had not obliterated the fact that he is first and foremost a Fulani man before adopting the Yoruba identity garb and thus should not question their consensus.
They were therefore implored to work jointly towards the disintegration PDP by forming a break-away from the Party which would be led by Alhaji Atiku Abubakar assisted by the likes of Rabiu Kwankwaso and the Speaker of Federal House of Representatives Alhaji Aminu Waziri Tambuwal who was promised the Governor of Sokoto State. On the other hand, those holding sensitive national positions in Jonathan’s administration such as the PDP National Chairman Alhaji Ahmadu Adamu Mu’azu and the National Secutity Adviser Col Sambo Dasuki were advised to retain their positions which should be used to facilitate their plan from within. This was the discreet political process that eventually led to the massive decampings that greeted PDP at the heat of President Jonathan’s re-election bid.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 8:23am On Dec 24, 2020
WrathJustified:
If this is not a brought upon dream and you've been modest, not lavish, excess. Then that means at the heart ear-rings was a detriment to your christian walk or an idol just the way expensive shoes were or Underwear were, or the watch you wear might be. So if the holy spirit has convicted you about it, like changedinchrist said, then you have to obey that conviction else it becomes a big sin because it's a heart thing.
This may not be the same for another sister. # Obedience through the spirit

exactly. Read your bible along with the holyspirit's guiding. Don't listen to man's extra-biblical doctrines, visions, prophecies, or testimonies especially if that issue is in the bible
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Donspicey: 8:26am On Dec 24, 2020
In the process some Northern Christian political and religious leaders became captives to the spell of anti-Jonathan ritual-cow syndrome and consequently became the willing political tools of the Caliphate’s evil machinations, mostly through the Episcopal exertions of the Northern-led Roman Catholic Church of which the Metropolitan Archbishop of Abuja the Okun Yoruba-born John Cardinal Onaiyekan, the Taraba State Kona-born President of Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Nigeria Archbishop Ignatius Ayau Kaigama, the Kaduna State-born Bishop of Catholic Diocese of Sokoto Bishop Matthew Kukah, and the Tiv-born former Governor of Benue State Senator George Akume.
The first strategy adopted by the Caliphate in recruiting these willing Christian quislings was to sow the seed of discord among the Nigerian Christian family. In pursuing this strategy they found a willing tool in the person of John Cardinal Onaiyekan the Episcopal head of Abuja Catholic Archdiocese and titular head of the Roman Catholic flock in Nigeria. John Cardinal Onaiyakan was quick in accepting to be a quisling to the Caliphate’s design to sow the seed of discord among the Nigerian Christendom which ultimately paved the way for the failed attempt to destroy Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor’s reputation as President of Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) and the eventual scuttling of President Goodluck Jonathan’s re-election bid for obvious personal reasons.
First, he saw it as an opportunity to cut his own pound of flesh from Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor who according to him master-minded his failed bid for second-term in office as President of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) by opting to challenge him and eventually defeating him in the election that followed. But the same John Cardinal Onaiyekan forgot that his election as CAN President in the first indtance was the result of his scuttling of the second-term bid of the Primate of Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion) Most Reverend Peter Akinola for the same reason of under-performance.
Furthermore, it is instructive to note that Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor did not in the first place indicate any intetest to challenge John Cardinal Onaiyekan for the CAN Presidency but was only invited to take the mantle of leadership by the Northern caucus of the Christian Association of Nigeria of which John Cardinal Onaiyekan was a member, who saw the latter’s unrestricted cuncubinage with the Caliphate utterly embarrassing at the detriment of the collective interests of the Northern Christians.
The second reason why John Cardinal Onaiyekan easily fell prey to the Caliphate sinister political motives was his ridiculous belief that even though he is a Yoruba by ethnic definition from Okun sub-ethnic group in Kogi State, he proudly sees himself as a Northerner first with the sumptuous carriage of an Ahmadu Bello protégé in the manner of his Okun kinsman Chief Sunday Awoniyi and the Okene-born Alhaji Abdulrahman Okene of Ebira ethnic extraction. John Cardinal Onaiyekan was reported one time eulogizing Sir Ahmadu Bello for offering him scholarship, which he skipped in place of Roman Catholic priesthood. Thus from all intents and purposes his primary allegiance neither goes to his Yoruba root nor his Christian vocation but to the Caliphate.
Thirdly, the leadership of the Caliphate was quick to exploit this deep-seethed sentiment against Pastor Oritsejafor by John Cardinal Onaiyekan which had already infested the greater part of the Roman Catholic clergy. Through what they concocted as Protestant domination of the Nigerian political scene against the Roman Catholics, the Caliphate invited the Roman Catholic leadership to ally with them against President Goodluck Jonathan who is an Anglican, with the promise of their support for a Roman Catholic Vice President or President of the Federation as the case may be. This agreement actually played out when Alhaji Atiku Abubakar over-turned all PDP Party rules and agreements decided to pick Mr. Peter Obi as his Vice Presidential Running-mate against popular Party decision. Indeed Peter Obi schemed his way through the Roman Catholic leadership, presenting himself as the champion of Roman Catholic political revolution in the Southeast which led the latter to present him to Atiku Abubakar as their choice candidate.
Fourth and finally, John Cardinal Onaiyekan was reminded of the long-standing Caliphate magnanimity to the Roman Catholic Church when the Sardauna of Sokoto and Premier of the Northern Region approved against all opposition by Sultan Abubakar and other prominent Sokoto Caliphate religious leaders the establishment of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Sokoto on June 16, 1964, whereas it was only in 1990 that the Anglican Church was permitted to upgrade to a Diocese. Thus it was incumbent for the Roman Catholic leadership to reciprocate by joining their onslaught against President Goodluck Jonathan.
In pursuing the above objectives the Cardinal opted to operate from the background by delegating the anti-Oritsejajor and Jonathan onslaughts to his subordinates led by the Archbishop of Jos and now his successor-Metropolitan Archbishop of Abuja Most Rev. Ignatius Kaigama. But that was not before he fired the first shot in January 2013 when he threatened to pull the Roman Catholic Church out the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) for what he claimed was Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor’s closeness to President Goodluck Jonathan, but which was in fact part of his calculated objectives within the Caliphate scheme to divide the Nigerian Christian body and in the process issolate the body from President Goodluck Jonathan.
John Cardinal Onaiyekan’s mutinous statement sent cold shivers down the spines of many concerned Christians but none was able to overtly come out to confront the seemingly invincible Roman Catholic Potentate. It took the President of Oodua People’s Congress (OPC) the now late Dr. Frederick Faseun to urgently invite the present writer for a strategic deliberation on the consequences of John Cardinal Onaiyekan’s Judasian statement. The result was the present writer’s feature article on the January 31, 2013 issue of the Vanguard newspaper which momentarily put the planned exit in an uneasy state of abbeyance.
After effectively getting the Roman Catholic leadership into their ship of political Armageddon, the Caliphate decided to to launch one of their biggest conspiracies against Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor through the office of the Chief Security Adviser to the President, Col Samdo Dasuki. As the chief procurement officer for special arms in the Presidency Dasuki decided to clandestinely seek for the lease of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor’s semi-commercialised aircraft for a stage-managed arm purchase in South Africa. Pastor Oritsejafor on the knowledge that his aircraft was being hired by the Presidency thought it was a favour coming from President Goodluck Jonathan. But unknown to him it was a political bubby-trap set for him by the Caliphate in conspiracy with the Roman Catholic clergy-leadership through Sambo Dasuki without the knowledge of President Jonathan.
Alhaji Atiku Abubakar who had been promised to take over from Muhammadu Buhari after the latter’s first term of office was effective in linking up the plan with his friend and South African President Jacob Zuma. Both men had become very close friends when they were both Vice Presidents. Both had the same clandestine ambitions to succeed their Presidents. While Jacob Zuma succeeded in his bid against President Thabo Mbeki, Atiku Abubakar failed in his bid to either unseat or succeed President Olusugun Obasanjo. Indeed both men were suspended almost at the height of their ambitions by their respective political parties—ANC and PDP. Both have equally exchanged visits both official and private. In later years Atiku Abubakar was to act as President Muhammadu Buhari’s Special Envoy to President Jacob Zuma. So it wasn’t a coincidence that South Africa was chosen as the hatchet country for the plan.
Ordinarily special arm purchases by most countries are carried out with raw cash due to their secrecy and often pass through coadunate Secret Service links of the purchasing and supplying countries. In other words, the Presidency should not have sent out the sum of 9.3 million US dollars for purchase of arms in the Republic of South Africa without the formal knowledge of the South African Government and Secret Service. Indeed that was actually done but this time for the purpose of blackmailing the owner of the courier aircraft and embarassing President Goodluck Jonathan. The idea being, as in the theory of vile propaganda, sell the story and wait till it sinks into the minds of the people before telling the truth about it. That was the strategy and it worked out perfectly for them.
Working in concert with the Roman Catholic leadership and to drive the embarrassment deeper into the homebase of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor the 5th of September 2014 was chosen as the D-Day for the operation, and for that reason the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Nigeria under the Presidency of Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama chose to hold their meeting the same date in Warri, the homebase of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor. Thus it was a calculated plan for the Catholic Bishops to learn about the news of the abortive use of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor’s Aircraft for illegal arms purchase by the Presidency while holding their annual Conference in Warri. But the question which most people failed to ask at that time was, can the Presidency engage on illegal arms purchase?
It was interesting if not ridiculous to note that it took the Presidency close to two weeks to clear the air about the truth of the arms purchase saga, enough time for the damaging news to sink down the gullible minds of most Nigerians. That was indeed after Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor had battled on his own to clear his name from the calculated mess. But then the objective having been achieved it soon became the platform for the open vilification of the person of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor thereby putting the entire body of Christian Association of Nigeria in a terrible momentary shock nationwide. For the Roman Catholic leadership however it afforded them the opportunity as planned to commence their onslaught against both Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor and President Goodluck Jonathan.
The first onlaughr came from the retired Archbishop of Lagos Cardinal Anthony Olubunmi Okogie who loudly accused President Goodluck Jonathan of inept leadership and corruption and advised him not to run for a second term. He then turned to Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor and not minding his position as the President of Christian Association of Nigeria rained unprintable insults on him concluding that Pastor Oritsejafor had “finished himself” and “fallen from grace to grass”, for no other reason than being close to President Goodluck Jonathan.
The former Governor of Benue State Senator George Akume acting under the commission of his religious potentates described Pastor Oritsejafor as “clearly criminal, immoral and unethical.” For Mallam Nasir el-Rufai, acting under the commission of his Caliphate memtors, used unprintable names against the President of the Christian Association of Nigeria which under no circumstance a Christian would call a Muslim religious leader, describing Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor as “an irresponsible leader.”
From that stage the baton was handed over to Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama who became the official APC Ecclesiastical Chief Campaign Officer with his Episcopal House outreach to President Muhammadu Buhari. Indeed as Archbishop Kaigama evidently stated in 2016, “we needed change and it came by the Person of President Buhari.”To bring in some Protestant colourings in the anti-Oritsejafor campaign one renegade Protestant clergyman named Pastor Kallamu Ali Dikwa who claimed to be the Executive Director of Voice of Northern Christian Movement was recruited by Archbishop Kaigama to sell the phantom 7 billion naira campaign bribe to Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) by the Presidency. Pastor Ali Dikwa was to later apologise to Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor for the damaging falsehood through Pastor Emmanuel Bosun.
For Archbishop Kaigama however, the launching of anti-Oritsejafor/Jonathan campaign in the South was to be undertaken with great caution because of the high state of pro-Jonathan sentiment among the people. But at the end a convenient tool was found in the person of Rev. Father Ejike Mbaka who came with a bang in his now infamous clandestine Homily code-named “From Goodluck to Badluck” on December 31, 2014. The other priests and the Knighthood wing of the Church were cautiously implored to work in tandem with Father Mbaka’s venomous utterances by subtly desuading their members from turning out en mass for the 2015 General elections in order to reduce the chances of President Goodluck Jonathan securing enough votes in the South. That was indeed what happened.
The calculation of the Caliphate was that President Jonathan would definitely reject the result of the Presidential election which would then pave way for the planned mayhem against the Christians with the already stock-piled illegal arms which would then would have served to provide the massive human blood needed to atone the rituals of the buried live-cow. It should be noted that as far back as 2013 illegal arms had been streaming into the country in massive order with the connivance of Northern political and religious leadership and the present writer was privileged to warn the Federal Government of the impending danger during the Channels Televion morning programme “Sunrise” on April 11, 2013.
Fortunately against the opinions of all doubting Thomases, President Goodluck Jonathan as if moved under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit refused to be used as the conduit for the spilling of the blood of innocent Nigerians when he dramatically accepted his defeat in good fate. Although celebrated widely, that decision did not go down well with the Northern leaders. Indeed signs that Nigerians will live to re-pay for the unatoned blood of the ritual-cow began to emerge with the September 24 2015 Hajj stampede in Mina Saudi Arabia where Nigeria recorded 74 victims out of a total 717 victims.
But then the twin-problem of what to do with the stock-piled illegal arms and where to source the ritual blood as required by the buried live-cow remained unresolved. Here again one can explain the rise of the muderous armed Fulani herdsmen with their atrocious activities, of which the people of Southern Kaduna, the States of Benue, Plateau and Enugu were the greatest victims, as well as the surging banditry in Katsina and Zamfara States and, the now daily occurrences of massive kidnappings along the major highways in Northern Nigeria.
In January 2017, following the genocidal killings in Southern Kaduna in which more than 200 defenceless citizens were killed, the leadership of Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) under Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor called for one day fasting and prayer in honour of the victims. To prove the insensitivity of the Roman Catholic leadership and their marked collusion with the Caliphate John Cardinal Onaiyekan came out to publicly denounce the one day fasting and prayer in honour of the Southern Kaduna victims of Fulani herdsmen massacre ordering the Roman Catholics not to be part of the activity.
The present writer was to again take the bull by the horn by publishing a featured advertotial titled: “Cardinal Onaiyekan, the Southern Kaduna Killings and the Roman Catholic Divisiveness Against the Body of Christ”, respectively on Vanguard, Sun and Leadership newspaper issues of Thursday January 19, 2017. Coupled with the present writer’s anti-islamization suit against the Federal Government at Federal High Court, Asaba, John Cardinal Onaiyekan had to walk straight in person to President Muhammadu Buhari and demanded to know why the present writer was still moving freely with all his anti-government activities. The rest are history as it was only by the act of Providence that he found himself alive today in exile.
Today it appears that the Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor metaphor “Mr. President you’re finished” is no longer applicable within the time and space of present Nigeria. It is indeed right to redefine the metafor as “Mr. President we’re finished”, for although President Goodluck might have been finished from remaining Nigeria’s President, he was however not finished in the actual sense of the phrase, having assumed the role of a Special Envoy to the same people who fought to see his exit from Aso Villa. Those who seem to be the real victims of that metaphor are now the ordinary people with no religious and ethnic distinctions, and the question which arises is who should be blamed?
A tree stands and bears fruit only if supported by the coordinated efforts of the tap and fibrous roots. Today while the Caliphate represents the tap root of the present Federal Government, the Roman Catholic leadership represents the fibrous roots. Many Nigerians are equally aware that Nigeria is run today by two-in-one Presidency. The de jure represented by President Muhammadu Buhari and the de facto represented by the Caliphate through the present Chief of Staff Prof. Ibrahim Gambari.
So it looks ridiculous and phony for a group which describes itself as Northern Elders Forum to demand the resignation of President Muhammadu Buhari over his inability to arrest the sliding insecurity in the country. How can the tap root of a tree question the same tree over the type of fruit it bears? This is impossible. They know the source of Nigeria’s current problem of widespread insecurity. They know that it is a spiritual problem created by them. And they are very well aware that neither President Muhammadu Buhari nor General Tukur Yusuf Buratai has the solution to the problem, and that even if both men are removed from office today the problem will still persist. The fact is obvious. Any problem generated from a spirtual conclave can only be solved in like spiritual manner. Anyone therefore hoping to resolve such a problem by physical means is only playing the Ostrich.
Nwankwo Tony Nwaezeigwe,
PhD, DD
Institute of African Studies/Dept. of History & International Studies,
University of Nigeria, Nsukka
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by TheNoble007(m): 10:12am On Dec 24, 2020
Nuttella:
I want to tender my unreserved apology to Thenoble007 and other people who told me that wearing earring no follow but I refused to listen, I had a bad dream about the earring thing this afternoon and I was led in the spirit to throw away the earring when I was praying. cry

I had decided previously not to write again but changed my mind as I saw your message. I will tell you that you are very wise... A wise Christian will go to God in prayer to receive personal message like the Berean Christians... For the sake of others, do not listen to those who give interpretations to things based on hearsays and teachings of man... DO NOT...

1 Timothy 2: 9 says.. KJV

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearl or costly array.

A little child in school can explain the word- NOT.. The modest apparel includes with shamefacedness and sobriety and NOT ( NEVER) with broided hair( broided means un natural) or gold( anything gold, whether made of gold dust or not is still gold...) or Pearl or costly array. The big problem is not wearing these things while on earth. The problem is having them on at the point of death. Because these things have spiritual manifestations. How many of us can tell the exact year and time we are going to die? There are accusers of the brethren that confronts a soul when he/she dies. These accusers can even quote scriptures to refute that soul to enter that pearly gate of heaven. Do you know that Satan himself accused the soul of Moses and demanded him? Read Jude 1:9. The angel who walked with Moses was the arch Angel Michael who was a spiritual guide for the soul of moses into eternity. But Satan stood to throw accusations. And we all know that Moses didn't get to the promise land due to disobedience. The beauty of it all is that Moses redeemed his salvation before his death repenting of his sins and passing on his mantle to Joshua. Had he not repented, he would have been in danger of hell regardless of his work with God. For God never changes and He will never bend his standard not for any man. I knew this revelation personally through the spirit of prophecy and I am sharing it as I received. I believe you may not have heard this preached before.

I don't care what anyone else will say as everyone have a right to their own opinion... So my revelations are not for everyone. Nairaland is the least of all places where I will seek for popularity if that was a concern. Everyone salvation is a personal business.

Some folks have stylishly mentioned false prophet to me even though they were not direct. And some one even said that false prophet can give accurate prophecies too.. All these began as soon as I gave a revelation what 1 Tim 2: 9 explains.... Their is difference between a word of knowledge and prophecies.... The dimension at which familiar spirits operates and receiving messages from the Throne of Grace is greatly different and that I wouldn't want to discuss at the moment.

For those who are ready for the supernatural, I urge you greatly to seek it. God told me that He is answering the prayers of Moses in this time. For those who shout Sola scriptura, should pursue it earnestly as well.... I thank my God that He speaks on daily basis. I thank God that He fed the Israelites both meat and manna. Both were needed for their growth. We need the meat as much as the manna. Apostle Paul got his healing by the supernatural. Names and street were given. The town of Samaria worshipped God because of accurate word of Knowledge from the Lord Jesus. The had the scriptures with them before then. The supernatural is still at work and will be greater in this last days. That you don't see doesn't mean that others don't see. It's just that you don't want to see....

The enemy has been attacking me to shut me up from speaking physically... I will continue to speak.. I have been under attack even in my mothers womb according to stories, how much more now. I have encountered terrible accidents about 4 or 5 times in all but survived. I have been told by different people including a Hindu lady and Indian man indicating that I have refused to die. My mission is to open many eyes as I can so that people will seek God for themselves and not what a pastor or preacher says. That in a congregation of people will be an army of prophets, people who walk in the supernatural. That even nations will be terrified at what they have to say. The words that come out of their mouth will be fire. That Children will lay their hands on hospital walls and everyone will get well. The time is coming when children of God will walk as gods among men.


I pray earnestly for my soul to overcome the wiles of the enemy and persevere to the end.

Shalom.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 10:24am On Dec 24, 2020
TheNoble007:


I had decided previously not to write again but changed my mind as I saw your message. I will tell you that you are very wise... A wise Christian will go to God in prayer to receive personal message like the Berean Christians... For the sake of others, do not listen to those who give interpretations to things based on hearsays and teachings of man... DO NOT...

1 Timothy 2: 9 says.. KJV

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearl or costly array.

A little child in school can explain the word- NOT.. The modest apparel includes with shamefacedness and sobriety and NOT ( NEVER) with broided hair( broided means un natural) or gold( anything gold, whether made of gold dust or not is still gold...) or Pearl or costly array. The big problem is not wearing these things while on earth. The problem is having them on at the point of death. Because these things have spiritual manifestations. How many of us can tell the exact year and time we are going to die? There are accusers of the brethren that confronts a soul when he/she dies. These accusers can even quote scriptures to refute that soul to enter that pearly gate of heaven. Do you know that Satan himself accused the soul of Moses and demanded him? Read Jude 1:9. The angel who walked with Moses was the arch Angel Michael who was a spiritual guide for the soul of moses into eternity. But Satan stood to throw accusations. And we all know that Moses didn't get to the promise land due to disobedience. The beauty of it all is that Moses redeemed his salvation before his death repenting of his sins and passing on his mantle to Joshua. Had he not repented, he would have been in danger of hell regardless of his work with God. For God never changes and He will never bend his standard not for any man. I knew this revelation personally through the spirit of prophecy and I am sharing it as I received. I believe you may not have heard this preached before.

I don't care what anyone else will say as everyone have a right to their own opinion... So my revelations are not for everyone. Nairaland is the least of all places where I will seek for popularity if that was a concern. Everyone salvation is a personal business.

Some folks have stylishly mentioned false prophet to me even though they were not direct. And some one even said that false prophet can give accurate prophecies too.. All these began as soon as I gave a revelation what 1 Tim 2: 9 explains.... Their is difference between a word of knowledge and prophecies.... The dimension at which familiar spirits operates and receiving messages from the Throne of Grace is greatly different and that I wouldn't want to discuss at the moment.

For those who are ready for the supernatural, I urge you greatly to seek it. God told me that He is answering the prayers of Moses in this time. For those who shout Sola scriptura, should pursue it earnestly as well.... I thank my God that He speaks on daily basis. I thank God that He fed the Israelites both meat and manna. Both were needed for their growth. We need the meat as much as the manna. Apostle Paul got his healing by the supernatural. Names and street were given. The town of Samaria worshipped God because of accurate word of Knowledge from the Lord Jesus. The had the scriptures with them before then. The supernatural is still at work and will be greater in this last days. That you don't see doesn't mean that others don't see. It's just that you don't want to see....

The enemy has been attacking me to shut me up from speaking physically... I will continue to speak.. I have been under attack even in my mothers womb according to stories, how much more now. I have encountered terrible accidents about 4 or 5 times in all but survived. I have been told by different people including a Hindu lady and Indian man indicating that I have refused to die. My mission is to open many eyes as I can so that people will seek God for themselves and not what a pastor or preacher says. That in a congregation of people will be an army of prophets, people who walk in the supernatural. That even nations will be terrified at what they have to say. The words that come out of their mouth will be fire. That Children will lay their hands on hospital walls and everyone will get well. The time is coming when children of God are to walk as gods among men.


I pray earnestly for my soul to overcome the wiles of the enemy and persevere to the end.

Shalom.

Cool. Don't stop adding your input on this thread whether they call you fake prophet or not, me I know that you are a true prophet of God, don't let anyone bully you to silence, I have learnt a lot of things from you, prophet charlygi and some other people.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 11:51am On Dec 24, 2020
TheNoble007:


I had decided previously not to write again but changed my mind as I saw your message. I will tell you that you are very wise... A wise Christian will go to God in prayer to receive personal message like the Berean Christians... For the sake of others, do not listen to those who give interpretations to things based on hearsays and teachings of man... DO NOT...

1 Timothy 2: 9 says.. KJV

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearl or costly array.

A little child in school can explain the word- NOT.. The modest apparel includes with shamefacedness and sobriety and NOT ( NEVER) with broided hair( broided means un natural) or gold( anything gold, whether made of gold dust or not is still gold...) or Pearl or costly array. The big problem is not wearing these things while on earth. The problem is having them on at the point of death. Because these things have spiritual manifestations. How many of us can tell the exact year and time we are going to die? There are accusers of the brethren that confronts a soul when he/she dies. These accusers can even quote scriptures to refute that soul to enter that pearly gate of heaven. Do you know that Satan himself accused the soul of .........


Lol, I expected your coming out despite your claim to forever leave. It baffles me how someone can still mis-interprete that passage. It baffles me greatly and i pray one day the HolySpirit opens your understanding. I thank God for those that understand that passage well and are not blinded by man made doctrine or visions.
Well I have written enough on this issue and the word of God stands. I also wrote on personal conviction which is also biblical. The fact that 1 timothy 2:9 could be grossly mis-interpreted by you while ignoring Peter's passage on the issue is just so seriously baffling.
Is Paul implying that women should never wear fine/costly clothing, braid their hair, wear gold or pearls ? Is that what Paul really had in mind?

Listen to 1 Peter 3:3, 4

3 Do not let your adornment be merely outward; arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel;

4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.

1 Peter 3 helps us understand what Paul is saying – Peter says the adornment should not merely be external. It’s not wrong to wear gold, pearls, fine clothing or to braid the hair. What is wrong is the emphasis on the external to the neglect of the heart. This becomes even clearer as we move into the next verse:

10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.

Godliness and good works; this is where the emphasis should be placed. Good works should flow out of a heart that is right with God. Women who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ should concentrate on the heart.“Instead of stressing external beauty, according to the world’s standards, Christian women should manifest a different set of values. They should adorn themselves with good deeds. They should depend on their faithful service in the name of Christ to render them attractive to others. This was no plea for women to make themselves unattractive; it was simply an exhortation to reject the world’s yardstick for measuring beauty and adopt heaven’s standard (1 Samuel 16:7). One should expect nothing less from women who profess to worship God.

Brother, like I said before, read that part of the word of God with prayer to the holyspirit else it'd lead to gross hypocrisy which our Lord hates. And i hope one day in the future, your eyes would be opened. I was once like you if not worse.
God bless. SHALOM

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by TheNoble007(m): 12:26pm On Dec 24, 2020
changedinchrist:


Lol, I expected your coming out despite your claim to forever leave. It baffles me how someone can still mis-interprete that passage. It baffles me greatly and i pray one day the HolySpirit opens your understanding. I thank God for those that understand that passage well and are not blinded by man made doctrine or visions.
Well I have written enough on this issue and the word of God stands. I also wrote on personal conviction which is also biblical. The fact that 1 timothy 2:9 could be grossly mis-interpreted by you while ignoring Peter's passage on the issue is just so seriously baffling.
Is Paul implying that women should never wear fine/costly clothing, braid their hair, wear gold or pearls ? Is that what Paul really had in mind?

Listen to 1 Peter 3:3, 4

3 Do not let your adornment be merely outward; arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel;

4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.

1 Peter 3 helps us understand what Paul is saying – Peter says the adornment should not merely be external. It’s not wrong to wear gold, pearls, fine clothing or to braid the hair. What is wrong is the emphasis on the external to the neglect of the heart. This becomes even clearer as we move into the next verse:

10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.

Godliness and good works; this is where the emphasis should be placed. Good works should flow out of a heart that is right with God. Women who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ


How funny it is for you to think that physical adornment is what makes a woman attractive. Well I will quote the same 1 Peter 3:3,4 KJV

Whose adorning, let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting of the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek amd quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

I could post different translation but that's not necessary. Let it not be that of outward adornment but the adornment of meek and quiet spirit was Peter message in corroboration with Paul. The message isn't for you. I am glad that the sister in question has received a revelation on the subject . Some will come up with another revelation soon.

One can have discourse even on spiritual matters, but it is a wise thing not to call the other person's revelation man made. I pity you... It is wisdom to be very selective with the words we use in order not to be in confrontation with a truth we are yet to perceive or we chose not to consider it as truth. For we all see in parts. This was the wisdom that apostle Peter employed. Even when he didn't outrightly accept the revelations of apostle Paul, he never called them man made visions. He rather used wise words.

If my visions were man made, then let me bear the burden of it. But if they were not, let the mouth who uttered such bear the burden. I rest my case.


Shalom.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 12:37pm On Dec 24, 2020
TheNoble007:



How funny it is for you to think that physical adornment is what makes a woman attractive. Well I will quote the same 1 Peter 3:3,4 KJV

Whose adorning, let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting of the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek amd quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

I could post different translation but that's not necessary. Let it not be that of outward adornment but the adornment of meek and quiet spirit was Peter message in corroboration with Paul. The message isn't for you. I am glad that the sister in question has received a revelation on the subject . Some will come up with another revelation soon.

One can have discourse even on spiritual matters, but it is a wise thing not to call the other person's revelation man made. I pity you... It is wisdom to be very selective with the words we use in order not to be in confrontation with a truth we are yet to perceive.. This was the wisdom that apostle Peter employed. Even when he didn't outrightly accept the revelations of apostle Paul, he never called them man made visions. He rather used wise words.

If my visions were man made, then let me bear the burden of it. But if they were not, let the mouth who uttered such bear the burden. I rest my case.


Shalom.

Brother. Let the word of God be the standard. In that context of Peter and Paul's usage, It was. Anyone can see that. Or do you want us to view the greek for better clarity ? They referred to focus on externals, adornments (decorations)
Your premise on visions isn't the standard. The word of God is. The word of God is clear on this issue no matter the supposed revelation gotten by anyone whether in favor or against. Paul wasn't condemning fine /costly apparel, braids, pearls. NO. HE was emphasizing on concentration on externals as in their time, those women dwelt on external appeareance. As I have said in my previous posts, personal conviction also come s in because any such items, whether it be shoes, necklaces or whatever could be an idol or a stumbling block to the person of which the holy spirit moves to convict. Same happened with Paul on the idol meat issue even though it wasn't a sin to him. If you are fixated on bare elements, God himself stated he gave this jewelry as a gift! When God made a covenant with Israel he considered it like entering into a marriage covenant. After He "married" Israel he stated in the book of Ezekiel.I dressed you in embroidered gowns and gave you shoes of the best leather, a linen headband, and a silk cloak. I put jewels on you - bracelets and necklaces. I gave you earrings and a beautiful crown to wear (Ezekiel 16:10 - 12)

By manmade vision, I hope you understood what I was driving at. I was referring to man made concoctions or doctrines, If you feel I was focused on you, then i can say nothing. The word of God stands uncontested and unrivaled. I hope one day the Holyspirit opens your understanding regarding this issue as it's clear as daylight and it baffles me how someone filled with the spirit would not understand what paul was driving at

SHALOM BROTHER

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 12:41pm On Dec 24, 2020
As promised, the video on ALLAH - BAAL well explained.

This would edify us greatly. Let's all watch it and try to witness to muslims at the right opportunity. They need the gospel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w14-3Um9tSQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsVjBnv-zFs

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by TheNoble007(m): 1:20pm On Dec 24, 2020
Nuttella:
Cool. Don't stop adding your input on this thread whether they call you fake prophet or not, me I know that you are a true prophet of God, don't let anyone bully you to silence, I have learnt a lot of things from you, prophet charlygi and some other people.

You're welcome. Smiles. No one can bully me in silence in the physical how much more online... But as I am growing, one thing I have learnt is not to always prove a point or drag issues with someone..whether online or real life. There is a time for response and a time for pause. This is not weakness but wisdom.

Please post your revelations and ordeal.. You may help a random walker on this thread now or future whose eyes will be opened..


Shalom.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 1:25pm On Dec 24, 2020
TheNoble007:


You're welcome. Smiles. No one can bully me in silence in the physical how much more online... But as I am growing, one thing I have learnt is not to always prove a point or drag issues with someone..whether online or real life. There is a time for response and a time for pause. This is not weakness but wisdom.

Please post your revelations and ordeal.. You may help a random walker on this thread now or future whose eyes will be opened..


Shalom.

Lol. God bless brother. No bullying among christians, only edification and discourse on that which is in the word. I don't know you. Only God does
May God strengthen your walk in him. Amen
Shalom

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by jubianose(m): 1:27pm On Dec 24, 2020
Brethren in Christ, and all and sundry here.

One of the greatest thing that will happen to you as you grow and mature in Christ is that:-

"You will no longer be quick to trust anyone regardless of appearance, and you will no longer be quick to judge anyone regardless of their outward manifestation.

There are many scriptures to buttress and support this.

Experiences will teach you so.

The Holy Spirit in your heart will guide you with sensitivity accordingly and as your human nature is developed, because all human beings are not the same, therefore what apply to your neighbor might not apply to you. That does not mean you are a better person, and others are worse. We are created differently, our experiences are different so our likings should also be different. So therefore let us not make a judgement based on outward appearances, for appearance is very very deceptive. The man of the heart is where we should look into for Christ dwells in our heart through faith.

God bless you all and may the joy of Christ birth bring happiness, joy and laughter in this Christmas period. May we find all that we are praying for and may the Lord's presence be with us and guide us all and give us journey mercies to all travelling in Jesus Christ name. I pray. Amen.

Merry Christmas Brethren in the Lord.
God bless.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 1:29pm On Dec 24, 2020
jubianose:
Brethren I. Christ, and all and sundry here.

One of the greatest thing that will happen to you as you grow and mature in Christ is that:-

"You will no longer be quick to trust anyone regardless of appearance, and you will no longer be quick to judge anyone regardless of their outward manifestation.

There are many scriptures to buttress and support this.

Experiences will teach you so.

The Holy Spirit in your heart will guide you with sensitivity accordingly and as your human nature is developed, because all human beings are not the same, therefore what apply to your neighbor might not apply to you. That does not mean you are a better person, and others are worse. We are created differently, our experiences are different so our likings should also be different. So therefore let us not make a judgement based in outward appearances, for appearance is very very deceptive. The man of the heart is where we should look into for Christ dwells in our heart through faith.

God bless you all and may the joy of Christ birth bring happiness, joy and laughter in this Christmas period. May we find all that we are praying for and may the Lord's presence be with us and guide us all and give us journey mercies to all travelling in Jesus Christ name. I pray. Amen.

Merry Christmas Brethren in the Lord.
God bless.

Amen. Merry christmas to everyone here. Let's not just celebrate christmas like the world. Let's reflec on what christ did for us and rejoice that he was born according to the plan of God before the world began

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by SisterFire(f): 3:29pm On Dec 24, 2020
Praylove:
THE ENDTIME, LIES AND FEAR

Jesus told his disciples "Let's Cross Over" (Mark 4:35) there is a shift in the realm of the spirit, every generation always have the fear factors that always throw them off balance, and often times the priest and prophets in the land misinterprets these things. In the year 2000 the church was in the captivity of deceit, whereby ; we were told the world was going to end, same thing is repeating itself again through the Covid pandemic, it's all a sign of the end but not the end, Revelation 11:1-13 is not yet in view and so many other prophecies given by the spirit of God. Listen the bible says at this time the glory of the knowledge of the lord will cover the earth, why because darkness needs to be in view as stated in Isaiah 60 for the glory to be revealed, jesus said; occupy till I come, don't let the fear of the age stop you from taking your place in this world and abandone your God's given gifts, visions and aspirations... these will only give the devil a upper hand to taking over the economy and every sphere of life, it's not the Antichrist time to rule so stop allowing religious fear take over you, don't kill your dreams, take over industries for Christ; rule thou in the midst of your enemies, this is a command from the lord. It's time for Supernatural Turnaround in 2021, let's not just win souls but rule in the midst of God's enemies, through these; the glory of his knowledge will fill the earth as the waters cover the sea.

May the Lord lighten the eyes of our understanding. God bless.
How many Jesus n holyspirit do we have ?
Different jesuses and Holyspirits dishing out revelations to u , thenoble007 and fake CharlyGi
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by SisterFire(f): 3:32pm On Dec 24, 2020
Donspicey:



Hmmmm......

So wats the significance of ear rings

Any Biblical condemnation
Don't mind the l..ow brai.n..ed efulefu, she thinks and sleeps wat she thinks comes to her dream
Now the false pastor thenoble007 is taking the glory
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 3:53pm On Dec 24, 2020
SisterFire:
Don't mind the l..ow brai.n..ed efulefu, she thinks and sleeps wat she thinks comes to her dream
Now the false pastor thenoble007 is taking the glory
Just because I didnt tell you guys how I was struck with serious ear pain till I annointed my ear and removed the earring yesterday. I am of the prophetic so I don't dream what I think, moreover I was strongly against not wearing earring cause I really like wearing earring, God have mercy on your lost soul.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by TheNoble007(m): 4:32pm On Dec 24, 2020
Nuttella:
Just because I didnt tell you guys how I was struck with serious ear pain till I annointed my ear and removed the earring yesterday. I am of the prophetic so I don't dream what I think, moreover I was strongly against not wearing earring cause I really like wearing earring, God have mercy on your lost soul.

I thank God for you. If God can open your eyes being a strong critic, He can do so to anyone. My post and quote initially was because of you.

In the year 2008, I had preached to a prosperous business man who few years afterwards became very blessed by God. I was home at that time and went to him as a small boy. I preached to him concerning devotion to Mary and the Catholic church in general. He refused to listen to me and vowed on how he was born a catholic and would die a catholic. I prayed to God for him to see. The truth is, not everyone will be graced to see.

Few days later he called me and trembled. He gave account of what he saw. He was in a prominent Catholic church, and while the mass was going on, his eyes opened and he literally saw demons dancing around the altar, crucifix, and statue of Mary and co. He wasn't sleeping or dreaming, his eyes were opened a bit to see beyond the natural. He apologised just as you did. He went on to be a man of God, used by God.

Truth is always bitter to hear. It is not common. I am not here to force anyone to believe my revelations. Everyone have the ability to choose what to believe. Period.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Onyxunlimited(f): 5:31pm On Dec 24, 2020
Hello everyone. How have we been? I've really missed reading this thread. I hope to resume soon enough. There's this matter that gives me concerns and I'm here to seek out your advice.
Where to begin?
Well, sometimes my revelations comes in form of thoughts. When I find a thought reoccurring when I'm sure I didn't conceive it, then it's a revelation.
So my aunty (whom I hold very dear) married a bad husband. He cheats on her, sabotages her business, abuses her, doesn't bring money for family upkeep etc. My aunty has a school and she uses money from the school to run her family. When she first started the school, she borrowed money to start it and also borrowed money to pay teachers their first 6 months salary. She invested so much in the school with no support from her husband. Now God has blessed her school and the school is growing.
About 3 months ago, I started having this thoughts that my auntie's husbands would plan with his girlfriend to kill her so that they can take over her school. I voiced my thoughts though I didn't take it seriously. The thoughts keeps reoccurring but I continue to push it aside.
Two weeks ago, I had a dream where my aunt was kidnapped. In the dream she went out and hasn't returned even till the next day. I kept telling my family that her husband is responsible for her being missing because he kidnapped her and wants her school. I told them to follow me to her house so we can tell him we know what he knows and he should release our aunt. But in the dream, nobody believed me. They thought I was being paranoid and told me to wait that she'd come home at her time. I left them and went to my aunt's house to talk to her husband. I talked with him outside just a little bit. I couldn't go into their house cos I was scared he'd kidnapped me too and kill me to seal the secret. Frustrated that I couldn't get an answer, I decided to leave to get help. On my way, I saw a man in Nigerian army uniform walking alongside a woman. I begged him to help me rescue my aunt and he went into my auntie's house. She was rescued but was badly beaten and needed 2 men to support her while she walks. I ran to her and asked her what happened. She told me that her husband was responsible for the kidnapping and was torturing her to change her school name to his. I commended her for being able to withstand them, that if she didn't, they would have killed her before help came.
I woke up from the dream depressed bht I decided not to say anything about it as I thought it was a product of my imagination. But that changed when my sister told me that morning that she dreamt about my aunt that night and in the dream she died. So I decided to speak up. Distressed, we called our mom and she told us that she'd dreamt of death but she saw her cousin instead. So, she decided to call her spiritual advisor for counsel. The lady told her that my aunt's husband is plotting her downfall and my aunt has to do charity to people in need with huge money to take away that evil coming to her. Mind you, my mom hadn't told her about my dream.
Now I'm really convinced that those thoughts have been revelations. If this death coming for her goes away now, what about another time? How can I put an end to this permanently? I love my aunt and I don't want to lose her. I just don't understand why she won't leave this evil man. Talking to her won't work as she doesn't even want to listen. I was telling her about my dream and she was avoiding the topic. She later told my mom that she doesn't want to listen to such revelations that they scare her. She's old enough to be my mom, so it's not like I can force her to listen to me.
Please advice me how I can handle this?
@CharlyG1
And everyone else reading this.
Thank you.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Oludami1: 7:08pm On Dec 24, 2020
I also thought deeper life were taking it too far until I knew Ayo Babalola talked about it too. But CAC is no longer what it once was.
For those wondering why God banned it, remember the Golden Calf scenario and read Ezekiel 7:19-22. Now, I expected this to cause controversy and that is why I advise us all to go into fast and prayer and ask God if anything can work against us on the day of judgement like the preachers in Luke despite lovely spiritual gifts like Noble said of himself concerning his previous pride.
Eternity is too long for our human minds to comprehend for one trivial thing to find us wanting. We have all the time in the world now. For example, masturbation is not written in the Bible but the Comforter opened our eyes of understanding about it.
True, satan and co. fear not a person who sees clearly nor preaches eloquently but those who are constantly changed into Christ's likeness daily. Spiritual maturity dictates that we argue in prayer and not with each other.
May we be found worthy, Amen.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Oludami1: 7:36pm On Dec 24, 2020
For those of us that think God doesn't bother about our outward appearance, remember He said 'be holy as I am holy' and 'without holiness, no one can see Me'. Wisdom dictates that the said holiness applies to dressing too. But the same God said 'he who has ears, let him hear'.
Unlike in the previous times, a Christian can easily be disqualified from afar with his/her dressing before even examining the heart contents. All this won't make a dent in some minds, it is expected. For those who are ready to play snooker with their eternal destination, well... For those who want to use the redeeming properties of Jesus blood to its maximum capacity here on earth, I humbly advise we ask in prayer. Prayer is not supposed to be so stressful for us, isn't it?, let us just ask until we get a reply and come pool our views again.
God bless us all.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by EnochNoahAbram: 8:06pm On Dec 24, 2020
Oludami1:
For those of us that think God doesn't bother about our outward appearance, remember He said 'be holy as I am holy' and 'without holiness, no one can see Me'. Wisdom dictates that the said holiness applies to dressing too. But the same God said 'he who has ears, let him hear'.
Unlike in the previous times, a Christian can easily be disqualified from afar with his/her dressing before even examining the heart contents. All this won't make a dent in some minds, it is expected. For those who are ready to play snooker with their eternal destination, well... For those who want to use the redeeming properties of Jesus blood to its maximum capacity here on earth, I humbly advise we ask in prayer. Prayer is not supposed to be so stressful for us, isn't it?, let us just ask until we get a reply and come pool our views again.
God bless us all.

God bless you all for such a fruitful thread. Let me pitch in. The prayer you speak about is right and that's where personal conviction comes in. It's the same thing. It is wrong to put everyone under a blanket on this issue because it is evident from scripture and the new testament that it's not the case.
Although let me say you are wrong in saying a christian woud be disqualified without heart contents. That's blasphemy and anti scriptural. Or did you make a mistake in writing that. I hope you did or maybe you can explain better
But let me add that the heart works with the outward appearance. A born again heart would always dress modestly and not to offend and with obedience to God's convictions.

Regarding jewellry, or clothing, or trousers. I stand with changedinchrist's point as that's biblical and anyone who reads that passage clearly with the holyspirit would see that his point is clearly right. If TheNoble007 had said that message is for just one person (that nutella lady), then i have no issue. But if he says it is for everyone then he is wrong no matter who he is and this applies to any other person because from the bible, changedinchrist has said all there is to be said.

May God continue to sanctify us with his truth. Amen. God bless us all

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by TheNoble007(m): 9:06pm On Dec 24, 2020
Oludami1:
For those of us that think God doesn't bother about our outward appearance, remember He said 'be holy as I am holy' and 'without holiness, no one can see Me'. Wisdom dictates that the said holiness applies to dressing too. But the same God said 'he who has ears, let him hear'.
Unlike in the previous times, a Christian can easily be disqualified from afar with his/her dressing before even examining the heart contents. All this won't make a dent in some minds, it is expected. For those who are ready to play snooker with their eternal destination, well... For those who want to use the redeeming properties of Jesus blood to its maximum capacity here on earth, I humbly advise we ask in prayer. Prayer is not supposed to be so stressful for us, isn't it?, let us just ask until we get a reply and come pool our views again.
God bless us all.

Brother, you did well. Please explain not again...If I share the mystery behind watching of football, supporting football clubs, the big finance behind it as was revealed to me, and how important it will be for the Antichrist. The mystery of the world cup. Some critics may jump into conclusion without going to God in prayer to receive information. But it is needless to share. Even the scriptures needs to be understood with the eyes of the spirit. This world is so polluted.. If not for the grace of God, we can't outwit the devil. I urge those who listens to seek for the gift of prophecy and word of knowledge like never before for themselves. It will be one of the most important gift of God in this last days. This has been my cry here ever since... Let us seek like never before except you belong to the bandwagon of Sola Scriptura- as was noted here.


Shalom!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Oludami1: 9:23pm On Dec 24, 2020
Blasphemy??! wow! A cup that is dirty on the outside cannot pass a cleanliness test. Infact, it makes its rejection easier. It is cups who are sparkling clean on the outside that require inspecting inside.
When Jesus brought the Gospel, ardent followers of the Torah didn't find his teachings there. But the Torah hinted at it. The Holy Bible has already hinted at this and that is why I am pleading that we each ask in prayer. Eternity is... hmmm. ASK O ASK O ASK O.
The faithful Jews like Apostle Paul checked the Torah about prophecies about the Messiah and realized they were all fulfilled by Jesus and recieved confirmation through prayer. I totally understand the damage this will do to our worldview. I still haven't summoned confidence to tell my family about this but will tell everyone to dedicate some time (after christmas obviously) to ask God about trivial but dangerous things in prayer.
I hope we suspend this argument until after each of us has asked in prayer. Prayer, is the key that opens.
Salem

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by EnochNoahAbram: 9:26pm On Dec 24, 2020
Oludami1:
Blasphemy??! wow! A cup that is dirty on the outside cannot pass a cleanliness test. Infact, it makes its rejection easier. It is cups who are sparkling clean on the outside that require inspecting inside.
When Jesus brought the Gospel, ardent followers of the Torah didn't find his teachings there. But the Torah hinted at it. The Holy Bible has already hinted at this and that is why I am pleading that we each ask in prayer. Eternity is... hmmm. ASK O ASK O ASK O.
The faithful Jews like Apostle Paul checked the Torah about prophecies about the Messiah and realized they were all fulfilled by Jesus and recieved confirmation through prayer. I totally understand the damage this will do to our worldview. I still haven't summoned confidence to tell my family about this but will tell everyone to dedicate some time (after christmas obviously) to ask God about trivial but dangerous things in prayer.
I hope we suspend this argument until after each of us has asked in prayer. Prayer, is the key that opens.
Salem

You still aren't getting it are you? It is out of the heart that dirtiness proceeds out from! Nothing comes outside without it coming from the heart. How did you miss Jesus's very comment related to this : Matthew 15:11 and all the numerous passages from the old testament to the new that emphasizes on this. Is this even supposed to be an argument among Christians. How can a Christian say that one is disqualified without God ever looking at the heart, what sort of blasphemy is that. Please is it that you are not explaining yourself well or i'm misunderstanding you?

On your other point, yes prayer and individual seeking is important like I explained in my last comment. True, the thread shouldn't dwell on this any longer since a biblical stance has been provided and all other stances too has been suggested. God bless

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by EnochNoahAbram: 9:31pm On Dec 24, 2020
TheNoble007:


Brother, you did well. Please explain not again...If I share the mystery behind watching of football, supporting football clubs, the big finance behind it as was revealed to me, and how important it will be for the Antichrist. The mystery of the world cup. Some critics may jump into conclusion without going to God in prayer to receive information. But it is needless to share. Even the scriptures needs to be understood with the eyes of the spirit. This world is so polluted.. If not for the grace of God, we can't outwit the devil. I urge those who listens to seek for the gift of prophecy and word of knowledge like never before for themselves. It will be one of the most important gift of God in this last days. This has been my cry here ever since... Let us seek like never before except you belong to the bandwagon of Sola Scriptura- as was noted here.


Shalom!

Hope you aren't saying sola scriptura is wrong because that's what Jesus preached and the apostles preached and the means by which we are instructed to test all things with the numerous false word of knowledge and prophecies in our sinful fallen world.
2 timothy 3: 16 even emphasizes that. So I hope you aren't condemning it but just saying those who believe so shouldn't bother about your point ?
Because, it is because of Sola Scriptura that you aren't in a catholic church now as the great protestant reformation by Martin Luther that birthed all other churches away from the falsehood of the catholic church was built upon sola scriptura. God used that to show the heresy of the catholic chruch.

God bless

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ojaysam25(m): 9:51pm On Dec 24, 2020
changedinchrist:


Lol, I expected your coming out despite your claim to forever leave. It baffles me how someone can still mis-interprete that passage. It baffles me greatly and i pray one day the HolySpirit opens your understanding. I thank God for those that understand that passage well and are not blinded by man made doctrine or visions.
Well I have written enough on this issue and the word of God stands. I also wrote on personal conviction which is also biblical. The fact that 1 timothy 2:9 could be grossly mis-interpreted by you while ignoring Peter's passage on the issue is just so seriously baffling.
Is Paul implying that women should never wear fine/costly clothing, braid their hair, wear gold or pearls ? Is that what Paul really had in mind?

Listen to 1 Peter 3:3, 4

3 Do not let your adornment be merely outward; arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel;

4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.

1 Peter 3 helps us understand what Paul is saying – Peter says the adornment should not merely be external. It’s not wrong to wear gold, pearls, fine clothing or to braid the hair. What is wrong is the emphasis on the external to the neglect of the heart. This becomes even clearer as we move into the next verse:

10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.

Godliness and good works; this is where the emphasis should be placed. Good works should flow out of a heart that is right with God. Women who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ should concentrate on the heart.“Instead of stressing external beauty, according to the world’s standards, Christian women should manifest a different set of values. They should adorn themselves with good deeds. They should depend on their faithful service in the name of Christ to render them attractive to others. This was no plea for women to make themselves unattractive; it was simply an exhortation to reject the world’s yardstick for measuring beauty and adopt heaven’s standard (1 Samuel 16:7). One should expect nothing less from women who profess to worship God.

Brother, like I said before, read that part of the word of God with prayer to the holyspirit else it'd lead to gross hypocrisy which our Lord hates. And i hope one day in the future, your eyes would be opened. I was once like you if not worse.
God bless. SHALOM
Please if I may ask what is so special about jewelries. and braiding of hair can't one do without it. Is it expedient to wear them in order to make heaven? I don't know much about this things but I would welcome anything that would aid my Christian walk as I am still learning...

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by EnochNoahAbram: 9:57pm On Dec 24, 2020
ojaysam25:

Please if I may ask what is so special about jewelries. and braiding of hair can't one do without it. Is it expedient to wear them in order to make heaven? I don't know much about this things but I would welcome anything that would aid my Christian walk as I am still learning...
Did you read that post at all? The point he was making is don't dwell on outward beauty such that you ignore what matters which is Godliness and good works. The post was in response to those who think that costly clothing, braids, pearls etc are inherently sinful.
So no, he is not saying anyone should wear or discard, he is saying be modest and focus on good works which flow from a regenerate heart, and if those items are a stumbling block to you or you have made them an idol in your live (like for me, music was once an idol, for you it can be a particular piece of clothing), then you would be disciplined by God to drop it

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by WrathJustified: 10:43pm On Dec 24, 2020
Good Job @jubianose. It seems those demons (husbandsnatcha and her troops) have been banned from this thread for now. Thanks for reporting them
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by jubianose(m): 10:46pm On Dec 24, 2020
WrathJustified:
Good Job @jubianose. It seems those demons (husbandsnatcha and her troops) have been banned from this thread for now. Thanks for reporting them

Wow....

This is good news..
Let's hope that they will not create another moniker to troll us....

Merry Christmas Brethren The Lord Reignsssssss Foreverrrrrrr
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by jubianose(m): 11:10pm On Dec 24, 2020
Love, Love, Love one another.

Many Christians today do not love.
Jesus said that "we should love another and by doing so we should be known as his disciples".

Love does not Kill.
Love does not envy.
Love does not destroy.
Love does not condemn others.
Love does not hate others.
Love does not belittle others.
Love does not justify evil.
Love does not call evil good, nor good evil.
Love stands for truth only.
Love perseveres to the end.
Love stands for what is right.
Love does not wish evil to others.
Love is thoughtful, mindful and careful.

God is Love and He who loves is born of God. 1 John 4:7.

MERRY CHRISTMAS..

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dadrenaline(m): 5:40am On Dec 25, 2020
... Well, my point in this exchange that has consumed a few pages here is that no matter how we hear from God or what He shows us, we should always learn not to force any word of knowledge or vision on anyone or any group of people. No one likes to be forced to accept anything no matter how truthful or even life-saving it might turn out to be.

Be like the prophets of old; speak what God has sent you to say and leave the people to accept or reject the prophecies or warnings. If God could do that to the Israelites, then we shouldn't have a problem doing that. This is because God gave us freewill and He respects that.

Now about the topic:

Everyone's Christian Life is different, which is why the word of God says that we should work out our own Salvation with Fear and Trembling.

I used to worship football a few years back. All I could think of was returning home to watch my favorite team play and since my team usually played on Sundays since they were now competing in the lower tier of European football, I always wanted to be home before 1:30pm.

Since church was in another state( Ota), whenever there was traffic, I would become restless and most times, angry. Should we lose as my team tends to do, I would be so depressed, I would even lose appetite. When we win, I felt like on top of the world. I was worshipping this game and I didn't know.

When I realized how thing has consumed my thoughts, I knew I had to do something. Breaking away from this was one of the most difficult thing I had ever broken away from. Masturbation was far more easier. I am not bluffing here.

Whenever I come online, I see mentions from fellow fans, and if you go to such threads on this forum, you will see people who are far worse than I was then. Go to Reddit and you will see people in severe bondage under this spirit. And the sad thing is that even pastors are not left out.

This is one of the reasons I had to put away my other moniker for now. Football worship is something else but I broke away from it by His Grace because it was an idol in my life.

I was also obsessed with checking out my face every time I looked into a mirror. I always found a reason to check out how handsome I was, how irresistible how I was and how many stares I would get that day. Lol. I was obsessed with my own beauty. And of course, I would be on the lookout on who seem to look at me more than usual, especially when in church. Whatever was being preached that day passed me by, until I was truly saved, read a few books and realized my mistakes.

Now for others, it might not be football but basketball or cricket or American football which is like a tradition over there or baseball. Even desiring fellowship with your fellow guys all of the time can be an idol as well. So, this idol thing is peculiar to each person and they can be more than one in a person's life.

I have been to most churches in my short time on Earth and except God specifically tells me that I should stay in some of these churches with man-made doctrines, I won't. What I witnessed there no be here; most folks there have become so focused on outward appearance that their hearts are no in no way different from people that they condemn. Most not all please.

I don't support immorality but if your heart is truly sanctified and you seek the word of knowledge, noticing what is competing with God in your life shouldn't be hard. For me now, I am still struggling with my phone as an idol but I am working on it.

So once again, what is an idol is peculiar to each person so one vision doesn't cut it for all. I mean what about women who are completely SU but have other idols in their lives?

Anyways, I believe that word of knowledge should be for us to check what might be an idol in our lives as we end the year. That word wasn't a mistake. It might not be earrings or jewelleries or braiding of hair but something else we might not even be conscious of, hence the instructions to pray.

Please, Please, and Please, let's learn to leave ego aside and let the word of God prevail. This thread is for our edification so Brother Noble, if you have something about sports to tell us, please do and care less about what people say. A prophet doesn't care for validation or people's acceptance as he will report to God and not to men. Please, carry out the assignment God has given you with Fear and Trembling.

I appreciate everyone who has contributed to this, Changeinchrist and others. God bless us all.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

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