ASAWANA
I have come to learn from experience that even a lot men who claim to love and want independent women really can’t handle them, leemao. And then of course, there are the ones who vehemently and openly abhor us, leemao. In whichever form they come however, they are one and the same. Shine your eyes sis!

A lot of men would argue that they don’t want “liabilities” as wives, and they want women who can hold their shit down, issokay (I’m trying desperately to not loose my home training in this post��). Howeverrrr, these men really do not want you to blossom and shine. There are the ones who do not want you to have any type of independence – in your finances, in your choices, not even with your body!

And then there are the ones who are okay with you having your own money, as long as you do not earn more than they do, so long as you transfer ownership of your life (in whatever degree) to them. These men love their egos greased so love it when you reduce yourself to accommodate all that unhealthy amount of ego they carry around.

So even if you can sort yourself out, collect upkeep money from them, fuss about needing to get a new wig or dress, make it seem like you’re dependent on them, make them feel good.

A lot of men, because of the way unhealthy masculinity has been touted, would want you to shrink yourself to accommodate them – shrink your earning your accomplishments, your personality.

What do you think about this though?

As a guy, what’s your honest thought on independent women and dating/marrying them?

As a lady, what’s the biggest issue you have with independent women?

Or if you consider yourself independent,what’s the biggest issue you face?

Where do you draw the line with being independent in a relationship?

if she is independent then she does not need a man to depend on!
get it?

No man will have such. only simps does

If u r poor, u cant handle her

@tobechi74, why u wan shake table nau? Abeg, make we enjoy the festive season finish then we go cum back to d subject. Na beg I dey beg o, no shakara

I am currently handling one. She's an amazing woman. She is turbocharged charged like me so we suit fit each other perfectly.

Yes sure I would enjoy breaking her and putting her into submission. I love when dreams of hard working ladies die off

For me I prefer independent women and I sure know how to handle them, you see the issue here is not that the woman is independent, but what attitude does she posses and what's her attitude towards a romantic relationship, this what I get to find out during our dates, you can decern people from how they speak and what they do and not necessarily what they say.

A woman who is independent tells me she has a goal for her life, I love women like that and for me I enter a relationship seeing what I can contribute to the ladies life and help her become her best.

Concerning earning more than me, well i would not have issue with that if she is really into me and loves genuinely but I can tell you for free that would be a temporary thing am quite a very ambitious and brilliant guy with an impressive track record, am not bragging, you can check my profile.

So the crux of the matter is different strokes for different folks, some have insecurity issues, ego and the likes and will prefer the woman stays under their radar.

Lightangel65:
Yes sure I would enjoy breaking her and putting her into submission. I love when dreams of hard working ladies die off

shuuu

baralatie:

shuuu

Leme alone

Hyenas, tarantulas and other animal species survive well with a female as their alpha but when it comes to man a beta wife means a better life. There can't be 2 captains in a ship.

My 2 shillings

Lightangel65:
Yes sure I would enjoy breaking her and putting her into submission. I love when dreams of hard working ladies die off

Lmao you be sadistic mofo

This is a pseudo description of an alpha woman, foisted by feminists. Women are not like men. An alpha woman is totally feminine, yielding, submissive and supportive; not independent and aggressive like an alpha male. The more alpha the man, the more alpha the women (as described above) that he is attracted to... what feminists deridingly and jealously describe as 'trophy wives'. As for the kind of aggressive masculine beta women you describe, only door mat beta males who don't mind yielding the authority of the home front are attracted to them. This is because beta males are timid and afraid of taking control.

I can't respect a man I'm richer than in a relationship so I can't date a man I'm richer than

tobechi74:

As a guy, what’s your honest thought on independent women and dating/marrying them?

I love independent, or better still non-entitled women. I do not think I can be in a relationship with an entitled woman.

The issue is not with independence, the issue is usually an attitudinal one. Being independent does not mean being arrogant, condescending, etc.. You can be independent and down-to-earth. They aren't mutually exclusive. It however seems that success can get intoxicating and then filters into behaviour.. And most people (except those who are servile) wouldn't want to have anything to do with someone who thinks they are the next best thing since sliced bread and you are a starving love refugee.. lol.

Zzor:
I can't respect a man I'm richer than in a relationship so I can't date a man I'm richer than

Anytime I see your moniker I expect bashings and I was just tempted to tow that line but I won't.

You do realise that you have effectively put a cap on your greatest achievement in life right? Except you don't want to get married. That way, in case you get richer than whomever you're with, you can dump him and try to find a richer person.

Zzor:
I can't respect a man I'm richer than in a relationship so I can't date a man I'm richer than

Check your understanding on relationship! Mtchwee

Except it you think your guy has no ambition in life or you think money is a measure of masculinity.

TSBO:


Anytime I see your moniker I expect bashings and I was just tempted to tow that line but I won't.

You do realise that you have effectively put a cap on your greatest achievement in life right? Except you don't want to get married. That way, in case you get richer than whomever you're with, you can dump him and try to find a richer person.

Well said. One Ferrari for you.

TSBO:


Anytime I see your moniker I expect bashings and I was just tempted to tow that line but I won't.

You do realise that you have effectively put a cap on your greatest achievement in life right? Except you don't want to get married. That way, in case you get richer than whomever you're with, you can dump him and try to find a richer person.

Men demands respect from all angles so I simply said what will work for me. My man must be richer than me no matter how rich I get else he will have to respect me,role switch.I can't even date someone I'm richer than to begin with

i don't care if she's the CEO of a Fortune 500 company I can handle her

RisenPhoenix1:
You don't even know what an alpha woman is. Women are not like men. An alpha woman is totally feminine, yielding, submissive and supportive; not independent and aggressive like an alpha male. The more alpha the man, the more alpha the women (as described above) that he is attracted to... what feminists deridingly and jealously describe as 'trophy wives'. As for the kind of aggressive masculine women you describe, only door mat beta males who don't mind yielding the authority of the home front are attracted to them. This is because beta males are timid and afraid of taking control.

I don't think so!
If you study the panted dogs and the lion pride.
All this terminologies that are been thrown around are a complete misnomer and do not work when it comes to humans!


In the panted dogs once you have an alpha male and and aloha female in the pack.the sexuality of all the remaining packs become domicile and it is also noticed amongst termites and ant colony(this is totally not the case with humans)

Likewise. In the lion group (that I have an alpha male is a misnomer the probability of a group with a single male lion is slim so what they have is a co alition)which means the sexuality of members in the group is active and dynamics are constantly changing).now that is a human kind of existence.

In summary,alpha male,alpha female is a misnomer when it comes to humans.independent males independent females,co alition and cooperatives that is what explains human relationships.

If you are an independent male you don't depend on the woman and vice versa
If you are in a co alition you depend on every mature member to contribute to it's survival

If you are in cooperative then get ready for constant changing of roles and authority

Why not if she can be submissive and respectful but the the truth is that over independent lady deos not really need a marriage.

Only the wise few ones among them are able to combine their success with their marriages.

There is no choice but to be with independent, 'alpha' women.

In the developed world (urban cities), on average, women outearn men up until ~ age 28 when more women start trying to get children. A number of studies have proven this.

As long as there is mutual respect, there will be no problem.

Some of us completely believe in equity, at all levels. From asking out, to dating to marriage.

This is an evil statement and you will end up crying lol.

Lightangel65:
Yes sure I would enjoy breaking her and putting her into submission. I love when dreams of hard working ladies die off

cooooooks:
There is no choice but to be with independent, 'alpha' women.

In the developed world (urban cities), on average, women outearn men up until ~ age 28 when more women start trying to get children. A number of studies have proven this.

As long as there is mutual respect, there will be no problem.

Some of us completely believe in equity, at all levels. From asking out, to dating to marriage.

Word!!!

There is really no choice. I don't understand how many guys are able to cope with other choices.. As you said, it's all about mutual respect, that's all.. And that, Sir, can be very difficult for those who have been conditioned by culture to attach self and non-self esteem to money.

Later these people will wonder why the sole breadwinner is dropping dead like a fly.

TSBO:


Word!!!

There is really no choice. I don't understand how many guys are able to cope with other choices.. As you said, it's all about mutual respect, that's all.. And that, Sir, can be very difficult for those who have been conditioned by culture to attach self and non-self esteem to money.

Zzor:
Men demands respect from all angles so I simply said what will work for me. My man must be richer than me no matter how rich I get else he will have to respect me,role switch.I can't even date someone I'm richer than to begin with

Everyone deserves respect, man or woman and no one should have to demand it before they are accorded it, especially from someone they are in a relationship with.

In short, you cannot respect anyone who you are "richer" than. I guess that sums the essence of your person then. It's all clear now. You worship money and unabashedly so. It is more than "man matter".. I rise..

By the way, Buhari isn't the richest Nigerian, but I'm sure no one commands higher respect.

TSBO:


Everyone deserves respect, man or woman and no one should have to demand it before they are accorded it, especially from someone they are in a relationship with.

In short, you cannot respect anyone who you are "richer" than. I guess that sums the essence of your person then. It's all clear now. You worship money and unabashedly so. It is more than "man matter".. I rise..

By the way, Buhari isn't the richest Nigerian, but I'm sure no one commands higher respect.

lol

TSBO:


Everyone deserves respect, man or woman and no one should have to demand it before they are accorded it, especially from someone they are in a relationship with.

In short, you cannot respect anyone who you are "richer" than. I guess that sums the essence of your person then. It's all clear now. You worship money and unabashedly so. It is more than "man matter".. I rise..

By the way, Buhari isn't the richest Nigerian, but I'm sure no one commands higher respect.

lol,just joking

Only few men can handle Alpha women. The ones who can, can only do it for a short time. In the long run, they start feeling emasculated and less manly cos the woman doesn't really need their help with anything. She won't even have much time to have sex with them either cos she'll be busy with work a lot.

I'm not saying women shouldn't have careers tho.

LadyTianna:
Only few men can handle Alpha women. The ones who can, can only do it for a short time. In the long run, they start feeling emasculated and less manly cos the woman doesn't really need their help with anything. She won't even have much time to have sex with them either cos she'll be busy with work a lot.

I'm not saying women shouldn't have careers tho.

there is nothing called alpha women.
it is either independent,co alition or coorperative

The idea that men cannot handle independent women is wrong, a failed attempt to encourage bad behaviours in women by calling it standards, and the ridiculous demands she have because she is earning some money. Only wild animals should be handled, not a human being. No man with a healthy sense of worth will be intimidated by a woman who is earning money. It is a lie.

Now show me a woman who earns lots of money, is feminine, respectful, submissive (not surbodinate), does not look down on her man regardless of earnings, and is beautiful, and I'll show you a woman that most men is dying to have. Such women does not stay in the market for long. Na men de rush them. My woman is who you would describe as an independent lady, with her own business and money, but her homely duties are met, no question asked. She doesn't put her earning to my face, or question my authority because she earns money. I'll also admit that I do not look at her money, and still perform my duties as if she is not rich herself.

So women, men are not shy of independent women, or whatever that shi.t means, but if a woman is rude, look down on men because she earns higher, can't marry down because of her hypergamy, disrespectful , old and just plain distasteful, then its not because you're "independent", but because you're not desirable. Weyrey de disguise