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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:58pm On Jan 01, 2021
If the holy spirit is with you i think observers will notice it, so there's no need carrying a placard over that Sir! Matthew 18:11-14 smiley


freshboi88:



Romans 8:7-9, “The carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.”

Does the Holy Spirit live in you? Hell No.



Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:00pm On Jan 01, 2021
I think you're boiling now so when next you're cool we can continue the discussion Sir! smiley


freshboi88:

Trying to deflect the arguement. Provide one verse that suits ur Holy Spirit is a force lie.
None of u has been able to do that
Deluded Lying JW
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On Jan 01, 2021
When a supernatural force is making imperfect humans do something strange whoever is in the midst of such group but feel what they're doing is wrong is lying against that force compelling the whole assembly to comply with the arrangement! smiley

freshboi88:

I ask again. How can u lie to a force?
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 4:44pm On Jan 01, 2021
freshboi88:


Just see mumu lies again. I will finish u today.
Use your God given brain
3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan(A) has so filled your heart(B) that you have lied to the Holy Spirit(C) and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
@bolded who did Peter say they lied to? Even in your NWT, its the same.
So why r u arm twisting God's word to win an argument.
I ask again. How can u lie to a force?


Young man learn how to articulate your words without being rude. I've been asking you the name of the holy spirit ever since no answer yet just rants everywhere.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:47pm On Jan 01, 2021
Never mind my brother, he has the holy ghost but there's nothing to show for it! smiley


DappaD:


Young man learn how to articulate your words without being rude. I've been asking you the name of the holy spirit ever since no answer yet just rants everywhere.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 4:49pm On Jan 01, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Never mind my brother, he has the holy ghost but there's nothing to show for it! smiley



At least we know that the REAL holy spirit and their Ghost are two different things.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 9:10pm On Jan 01, 2021
freshboi88:


Just see mumu lies again. I will finish u today.

Use your God given brain

3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan(A) has so filled your heart(B) that you have lied to the Holy Spirit(C) and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?


@bolded who did Peter say they lied to? Even in your NWT, its the same.

So why r u arm twisting God's word to win an argument.

I ask again. How can u lie to a force?
Hosea 12:3-4
"Their ancestor Jacob struggled with his twin brother Esau while the two of them were still in their mother's womb; when Jacob grew up, he fought against God— 4 he fought against an angel and won. He wept and asked for a blessing. And at Bethel God came to our ancestor Jacob and spoke with him.

Acts 5:1-3, boi apply your fictitious claim and logic to Hosea chapter 12, verses 3 & 4.

Cherry picker

cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 9:27pm On Jan 01, 2021
johnw47:
a person's title can also be a person's name, the title "the Holy Spirit" is also the Holy Spirit's name

Jesus called the Holy Spirit "the comforter", so the comforter is another one of the Holy Spirit's names

Joh_14:26  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost .....

Know nothing grin cheesy cheesy
"WHICH...." is a gender neuter expression in Greek Bible lexicon.
For the same reason the KJV was DUBIOUS to use "He" instead of the correct, ITSELF or it , the proper rendition in Romans 8:16,26 KJV
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by johnw47: 10:30pm On Jan 01, 2021
Janosky:


Know nothing grin cheesy cheesy
"WHICH...." is a gender neuter expression in Greek Bible lexicon.
For the same reason the KJV was DUBIOUS to use "He" instead of the correct, ITSELF or it , the proper rendition in Romans 8:16,26 KJV

false jw janosky

always talking dictionary and playing with words
do you want me to post some of God's word again showing that The Holy Spirit is a person

big mumu know nothing

Joh 8:44  You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies.


phony, you post book chapter and verse of two verses that say "itself"
instead of the numerous verses that say "He" and that's all you have, laugh

in future post all verses you give book chapter and verse for if you think they support you ,
mostly they don't is why you don't post them, oh fearful fraud jw

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by johnw47: 10:59pm On Jan 01, 2021
Janosky:


Know nothing grin cheesy cheesy
"WHICH...." is a gender neuter expression in Greek Bible lexicon.
For the same reason the KJV was DUBIOUS to use "He" instead of the correct, ITSELF or it , the proper rendition in Romans 8:16,26 KJV

know nothing false jw janosky

NASB
Joh 14:26  "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. 

NIV
Joh 14:26  But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

NRSV
Joh 14:26  But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything, and remind you of all that I have said to you.


just to post a few

you love playing with words and you hate the truth, jw fraud

Joh 8:44 You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 1:47am On Jan 02, 2021
Janosky:

Hosea 12:3-4
"Their ancestor Jacob struggled with his twin brother Esau while the two of them were still in their mother's womb; when Jacob grew up, he fought against God— 4 he fought against an angel and won. He wept and asked for a blessing. And at Bethel God came to our ancestor Jacob and spoke with him.

Acts 5:1-3, boi apply your fictitious claim and logic to Hosea chapter 12, verses 3 & 4.

Cherry picker

cheesy grin cheesy grin

Mumu way no get brain!!!!!!!!! Lying JW.

The Hosea you are quoting clearly stated that he fought an angel. So what's your basis for comparison?

I can't even find any basis....u no even dey make sense. Very poor attempt?

Are u saying now that Ananias lied to an angel too? So the Holy Spirit is no more a force but an angel?

Or Peter is now a force?

What exactly is your point really.....hahahaha!!!!!!.......Man you have gat no point


So I ask my question again.

Can you lie to a force?
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 1:49am On Jan 02, 2021
DappaD:


Young man learn how to articulate your words without being rude. I've been asking you the name of the holy spirit ever since no answer yet just rants everywhere.

Mumu and U have been mentioning his biblical nomenclature.

Hahahaha....his name is the Holy Spirit.

So can u lie to a force?

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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 1:51am On Jan 02, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
When a supernatural force is making imperfect humans do something strange whoever is in the midst of such group but feel what they're doing is wrong is lying against that force compelling the whole assembly to comply with the arrangement! smiley


Chou!!!!


Ananais lied to the Holy Spirit. Can u lie to a force?

Nah this question dey make u speak grammar.


Hahahhahahhahaha!!!!!!!!!
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 1:52am On Jan 02, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I think you're boiling now so when next you're cool we can continue the discussion Sir! smiley



Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Can u lie to a force? Just this question nah
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 1:58am On Jan 02, 2021
johnw47:
a person's title can also be a person's name, the title "the Holy Spirit" is also the Holy Spirit's name

Jesus called the Holy Spirit "the comforter", so the comforter is another one of the Holy Spirit's names

Joh_14:26  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost .....



just like the title "the Word of God" is one of Jesus preincarnate names

Rev_19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.



you cannot find a more personal name than "the Word of God"
and seeing as there is no other having that name,
the Word of God is a very personal name indeed






Don't mind that nitwit. He is calling someone by his moniker and still asking me for a name.

U no see as e mumu
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by johnw47: 4:16am On Jan 02, 2021
freshboi88:



Don't mind that nitwit. He is calling someone by his moniker and still asking me for a name.

U no see as e mumu

they are very confused
they are false jw's smiley

For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by nutarious(f): 4:24am On Jan 02, 2021
Have followed the thread page by page, scriptural argument by scriptural argument.

When it comes to debating with Jehovah Witnesses, the whole debating will be changing like a twisted cord.


But as I have always noticed, when it comes to HOLY Spirit, this is beyond them.


If you want to expose the minds you are debating with if it's robotic, bring the Holy Spirit topic.


They have never had an answer.


But yet they try their best to respond. That's robotic, it's like a coded machine, meant to do it in a particular order, if you change the order or line of duty then the machine starts misbehaving.


Scripture warn us to guide our heart. Who would have believed a man can be made a robot?


But yes, doctrines, false believes etc makes Men become robots.


When freshboi started the Holy Spirit part I knew trouble would start for the thread.

What if?

Is a mysterious question that has brought change to this robotic tendencies.


Paul knew Holy Spirit
Peter knew him
John talked about him
James wrote about him
Master Jesus spoke about him

Infact, Paul ministry started because He was chosen to start by Holy Spirit.

The Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, Separate now for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.


How come in a thin 100 years ago some folks start bringing new robotic stories.



My point, you don't have to always respond to questions you are not sure. Go and find out first and come back, it's a new year.

Let this robotic tendencies stop among Jehovah witness.

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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:19am On Jan 02, 2021
You're welcome into the discussion Ma, i remember you're the woman who married an atheist but trying to teach others how to practice Christianity! cheesy
I don't think there is any reason to argue blindly when the results are out.
If any of you know what the holy spirit is, just present any group of people where it's working so that everyone could see the WORKS of what you're saying! James 2:18-26
Do you still need a long story in teaching your child what a traffic warden does when the child could easily observe how the traffic warden perfectly controls thousands of commuters on a busy road?
Please try to apply the same logic and allow the audience to see how Mr holy spirit operates Ma! cheesy


nutarious:
Have followed the thread page by page, scriptural argument by scriptural argument.
When it comes to debating with Jehovah Witnesses, the whole debating will be changing like a twisted cord.
But as I have always noticed, when it comes to HOLY Spirit, this is beyond them.
If you want to expose the minds you are debating with if it's robotic, bring the Holy Spirit topic.
They have never had an answer.
But yet they try their best to respond. That's robotic, it's like a coded machine, meant to do it in a particular order, if you change the order or line of duty then the machine starts misbehaving.
Scripture warn us to guide our heart. Who would have believed a man can be made a robot?
But yes, doctrines, false believes etc makes Men become robots.
When freshboi started the Holy Spirit part I knew trouble would start for the thread.
What if?
Is a mysterious question that has brought change to this robotic tendencies.
Paul knew Holy Spirit
Peter knew him
John talked about him
James wrote about him
Master Jesus spoke about him
Infact, Paul ministry started because He was chosen to start by Holy Spirit.
The Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, Separate now for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.
How come in a thin 100 years ago some folks start bringing new robotic stories.
My point, you don't have to always respond to questions you are not sure. Go and find out first and come back, it's a new year.
Let this robotic tendencies stop among Jehovah witness.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22am On Jan 02, 2021
Even a blind man can SEE that! shocked


DappaD:

At least we know that the REAL holy spirit and their Ghost are two different things.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 8:53am On Jan 02, 2021
johnw47:


they are very confused
they are false jw's smiley

For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

From Holy Spirit is a force, to holy spirit is an angel...

One even said literally was it not Peter ananias was talking to.

These guys are Anti Christ

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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 8:56am On Jan 02, 2021
nutarious:
Have followed the thread page by page, scriptural argument by scriptural argument.

When it comes to debating with Jehovah Witnesses, the whole debating will be changing like a twisted cord.


But as I have always noticed, when it comes to HOLY Spirit, this is beyond them.


If you want to expose the minds you are debating with if it's robotic, bring the Holy Spirit topic.


They have never had an answer.


But yet they try their best to respond. That's robotic, it's like a coded machine, meant to do it in a particular order, if you change the order or line of duty then the machine starts misbehaving.


Scripture warn us to guide our heart. Who would have believed a man can be made a robot?


But yes, doctrines, false believes etc makes Men become robots.


When freshboi started the Holy Spirit part I knew trouble would start for the thread.

What if?

Is a mysterious question that has brought change to this robotic tendencies.


Paul knew Holy Spirit
Peter knew him
John talked about him
James wrote about him
Master Jesus spoke about him

Infact, Paul ministry started because He was chosen to start by Holy Spirit.

The Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, Separate now for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.


How come in a thin 100 years ago some folks start bringing new robotic stories.



My point, you don't have to always respond to questions you are not sure. Go and find out first and come back, it's a new year.

Let this robotic tendencies stop among Jehovah witness.



Thank You, even you notice they have no defence on the Holy Spirit topic.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 9:04am On Jan 02, 2021
DappaD:


I haven't seen the name of the holy spirit yet. Have you found it?

Straight from your New World Translation

Acts 3:2 As they were ministering to Jehovah and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul+ for the work to which I have called them.”+

After reading this u still think Holy Spirit is a force. Then your case is irredeemable.

Who spoke in this verse, and did the speaker refer to himself as a person?

Hahahaha........When arguement bout Holy Spirit comes ehn, as a JW it's just better to keep quiet, because that teaching is clearly against scripture on too many levels

Holy Spirit is a person. He spoke in this verse choosing Paul and Barnabas and even set a task for them to do. A force can't do that.

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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:04am On Jan 02, 2021
The highlighted always amuses me because it's funny expecting a defense from those who are safely working out their salvation in LOVE, JOY and PEACE! Isaiah 54:17 cheesy


freshboi88:

Thank You, even you notice they have no defence on the Holy Spirit topic.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by johnw47: 9:26am On Jan 02, 2021
freshboi88:


From Holy Spirit is a force, to holy spirit is an angel...

One even said literally was it not Peter ananias was talking to.

These guys are Anti Christ
Ananias was lying to the Holy Spirit-God in peter and the others smiley
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 9:34am On Jan 02, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted always amuses me because it's funny expecting a defense from those who are safely working out their salvation in LOVE, JOY and PEACE! Isaiah 54:17 cheesy



You are deceiving yourself. Learn the truth. Ignorance is not an excuse because you have been exposed to it here by emusan, my humble self, and others.

So you have no excuse before God

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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by johnw47: 9:38am On Jan 02, 2021
Act 5:3  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 
Act 5:4  Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11am On Jan 02, 2021
@highlighted

I need no excuse since i'm not a worshiper of your TRINITY god nah! cheesy

Where i must maintain my status is amongst JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, there's nothing as in NOTHING that can shake my feet on the rocky foundation of the Watchtower!

Call it anything you want, go PREACH and TEACH your truth out there i'm 100% certain that you'll get your type but definitely not one of JEHOVAH'S Sheep! cheesy

freshboi88:

You are deceiving yourself. Learn the truth. Ignorance is not an excuse because you have been exposed to it here by emusan, my humble self, and others.
So you have no excuse before God
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:27am On Jan 02, 2021
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are noticed globally with the same standard everywhere you go like MTN but what about the Trinitarian Churches of Christendom? There is confusion everywhere, just look at yourselves none of you can mention any reputable group where Mr Holy Spirit is working! cheesy
Deeper life claims the same TRINITY yet they're like heretics before Pentecostals, Catholic is the mother of TRINITY yet you're calling them pagans because they worship Holy Mary, most of you will see a beautiful lady and say "she's Jezebel" because she's moderate in her dressing, a Deeperlifer will say she's will be tormented in Hellfire forever and ever all because she's well dressed.
I remember a female Pastor died few years ago and a blind Pastor said he saw he (in his dreams/vision) that she's crying inside Hellfire all because of her makeups! cheesy

So there is no specific standard for this your TRINITY god it's anywhere belle face, all you're all concerned about is everyone must agree with your TRINITY dogheads everything else is of no use! grin

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, may God continue to bless you guys for locating me! smiley
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Emusan(m): 11:09am On Jan 02, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
@highlighted
I need no excuse since i'm not a worshiper of your TRINITY god nah! cheesy

Where i must maintain my status is amongst JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, there's nothing as in NOTHING that can shake my feet on the rocky foundation of the Watchtower!

And this is because you don't love Jesus, if not Jesus would've revealed Himself to you as He promised in John 14:21 "Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

Call it anything you want, go PREACH and TEACH your truth out there i'm 100% certain that you'll get your type but definitely not one of JEHOVAH'S Sheep! cheesy

Always shouting go Preach and Teach as if they don't do and even better than the worshippers of the 8 men.
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Emusan(m): 11:18am On Jan 02, 2021
Janosky:

Hosea 12:3-4
"Their ancestor Jacob struggled with his twin brother Esau while the two of them were still in their mother's womb; when Jacob grew up, he fought against God— 4 he fought against an angel and won. He wept and asked for a blessing. And at Bethel God came to our ancestor Jacob and spoke with him.

Acts 5:1-3, boi apply your fictitious claim and logic to Hosea chapter 12, verses 3 & 4.

Cherry picker

cheesy grin cheesy grin

The questions now are:

Who did Jacob actually fight against?
Who did Ananias actually lie against?
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 11:25am On Jan 02, 2021
freshboi88:


Straight from your New World Translation
Acts 3:2 As they were ministering to Jehovah and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul+ for the work to which I have called them.”+
After reading this u still think Holy Spirit is a force. Then your case is irredeemable.
Who spoke in this verse, and did the speaker refer to himself as a person?
Hahahaha........When arguement bout Holy Spirit comes ehn, as a JW it's just better to keep quiet, because that teaching is clearly against scripture on too many levels
Holy Spirit is a person. He spoke in this verse choosing Paul and Barnabas and even set a task for them to do. A force can't do that.

God was the one who spoke to Barnabas and Saul but only through the holy spirit which is God's means of communicating ideas to humans. Their utterances at that point indicate that they were inspired and commissioned to be apostles to the uncircumcised Gentiles. Compare Galatians 2:8

DappaD:

In the case of 2Samuel 23:2 however, it doesn't mean that holy spirit is a person that speaks to anybody. Because according to 2Peter 1:21, faithful men of old(including David)
were borne along/moved/incited by holy spirit to accomplish God's will and record prophecies. Judges 6:34, 2Samuel 23:2, Acts 1:16
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 11:34am On Jan 02, 2021
nutarious:
Have followed the thread page by page, scriptural argument by scriptural argument.
When it comes to debating with Jehovah Witnesses, the whole debating will be changing like a twisted cord.
But as I have always noticed, when it comes to HOLY Spirit, this is beyond them.
If you want to expose the minds you are debating with if it's robotic, bring the Holy Spirit topic.
They have never had an answer.
But yet they try their best to respond. That's robotic, it's like a coded machine, meant to do it in a particular order, if you change the order or line of duty then the machine starts misbehaving.
Scripture warn us to guide our heart. Who would have believed a man can be made a robot?
But yes, doctrines, false believes etc makes Men become robots.
When freshboi started the Holy Spirit part I knew trouble would start for the thread.
What if?
Is a mysterious question that has brought change to this robotic tendencies.
Paul knew Holy Spirit
Peter knew him
John talked about him
James wrote about him
Master Jesus spoke about him
Infact, Paul ministry started because He was chosen to start by Holy Spirit.
The Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, Separate now for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.
How come in a thin 100 years ago some folks start bringing new robotic stories.
My point, you don't have to always respond to questions you are not sure. Go and find out first and come back, it's a new year.
Let this robotic tendencies stop among Jehovah witness.


Please can you address the thread by letting us know the name of the holy spirit ?

Because Jehovah's Witnesses have all agreed here that it's not a person but rather it's God's active force—means through which God accomplishes his will and purpose. 2Peter 1:21
And because of that, we have all remained in one line of thought and purpose. 1Corinthians 1:10

Meanwhile those whom you classify as “Christians” are all confused about the identity of holy spirit, they even falsely refer to it as “Holy Ghost”, some say it is Jesus that came again, some say it is God split into three. You can see the confusion amongst your fellow churchgoers. Perhaps you should see this thread if you think I don't know what I'm saying.
https://www.nairaland.com/6338828/does-holy-spirit-name

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