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Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 11:42am On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: Straight from your New World Translation Acts 3:2 As they were ministering to Jehovah and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul+ for the work to which I have called them.”+ Ur NWT doesn't Jehovah said o. U r adding to the Bible Mr. It says The Holy Spirit said @ bolded. Where in this text does it say Jehovah said to Barnabas and Paul? Stop Adding to the Bible oga nah........ |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 11:43am On Jan 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Letters of defeat is all I see |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:52am On Jan 02, 2021 |
Exactly! You're the winner after all 99.9% of the commentators voted you as the winner, majority carries the vote DEMOCRACY! John 15:19 freshboi88: |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 11:56am On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: Psalm 95:7-11 ASV reads: “For he is our God, And we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To-day, oh that ye would hear his voice! Harden not your heart, as at Meribah, As in the day of Massah in the wilderness; When your fathers tempted me, Proved me, and saw my work. Forty years long was I grieved with that generation, And said, It is a people that do err in their heart, And they have not known my ways: Wherefore I sware in my wrath, That they should not enter into my rest” Paul applied the same verse at Hebrews 3:7-11 to those who have been chosen to rule as kings in heaven. Hebrews 3:1, Revelation 5:10 Paul even gave authorship of Psalm 95 to David at Hebrews 4:7. But look at what Paul said at Hebrews 3:7, “Wherefore, even as the Holy Spirit saith, To-day if ye shall hear his voice,” So who was actually speaking? Didn't those words originate from God? Wasn't it David who penned those words down because he was inspired/moved by holy spirit to do so? 2Samuel 23:2, 2Timothy 3:16, 2Peter 1:21 1 Like |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 12:10pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: This one you dey talk nah story story.. Twisted interpretation. Let's not argue too much. Bros, Abeg just provide one Bible translation of Acts 13:2 of the Bible way support this your Jehovah spoke through the Holy Spirit. I will believe you!. Just one abeg. Nah only one I ask. Cos remember the Bible nah our guide o not JW awake magazine o 1 Like |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 12:13pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: The analogy used is apt. Go over it again and relate it with Acts 13:2 |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 1:16pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: Pls don't give me analogy. We are talking biblical and spiritual matters here. Give me scripture. I asked u to provide one translation that supports your acts 13:2 interpretation. Isn't there one that supports your analogy. You can even use your own Jehovah witness bible 2 Likes |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 3:38pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: Okay should I spoonfeed you? David uttered and wrote what is now Psalm 95 compare Hebrews 4:7 but why does Paul at Hebrews 3:7 say that it was holy spirit that spoke when in reality it was David? The answer is at 2Peter 1:21 Faithful men of old were moved by God's holy spirit to make inspired utterances and in order to accomplish God's will. That's the case with Acts 13:2. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:46pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
No matter how practical your comments seems to be as long as you're not ready to take a bow before their TRINITY dogheads you can't get anything right before them. Just say "Jesus is front/back/Left/right and center" whatever gibberish that follows is OK to them even if you're saying some of them will enter Hellfire for not following some man-made doctrines, they will say "God works in mysterious ways" so just agree with their three in one god and automatically you're certified! DappaD: |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Emusan(m): 3:46pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: Imagine, Jehovah speaking through a force that emanating from Himself. That is to say, Jehovah is talking to Himself when Holy Spirit is in action. That's the kind of delusions you see from people who choose to follow man made doctrines than The Word of God. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 3:53pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: That guy in particular feels that someone must be at his beck and call at all times when most of us are busy with field service. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Emusan(m): 3:55pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: How long will you people realize that you can ONLY SPEAK THROUGH a VESSEL that is an object. Holy Spirit spoke through PEOPLE. So for Jehovah to speak through the Holy Spirit, it means Holy Spirit must have mouth to utter the words of Jehovah. The people that Holy Spirit spoke through them, didn't they relate the messages with mouth? The evidences that Holy Spirit has mouth are abounds in the scripture |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Emusan(m): 4:00pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: And the filed service struggling to produce just 9m followers for over 100years whereas the people who didn't busy with field service have produced much followers in less than 100 years. 1 Like |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 4:15pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: I will finish this man today. Okay so David had a mouth and so he spoke. You cannot speak if u no get mouth. So in the case of Acts 13:2, The holy spirit spoke. Do u agree that the Holy Spirit has mouth, voice? 2 Likes |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 4:42pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: Evidently, it was Paul who spoke those words at Acts 13:2. Jehovah God put it in his heart by means of holy spirit—he didn't have to hear God's actual voice from heaven. It wasn't like the voice he heard from Jesus on an earlier occasion either(Acts 9:15) That's why I brought up the whole Psalm 95, Hebrews 3:7 and 4:7 saga because it is exactly the same scenario. Compare Acts 1:16 |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 4:56pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: Acts 13:2. As they were publicly ministering to Jehovah and fasting, the holy spirit said: 'Of all persons set Bar'na·bas and Saul apart for me for the work to which I have called them.' So Paul spoke of himself in this verse. How did he say it? Set Paul (himself) and Barnabas apart for me(himself again) for the work which (Paul) has commanded them to do? But I wonder y he is calling his own name if he is making this statement?....can u tell this forum why? This guy clearly needs medication In Addition Earlier u said God spoke through the Holy Spirit. Now u said God spoke through Paul. Or Jehovah spoke through the Holy Spirit then Holy Spirit now spoke through Paul..... Whoa!!!!.....such a long process for an Almighty Jehovah don't u think |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 4:58pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
Emusan: Now he said it was Paul that said it. Not the Holy Spirit again How many vessels does God need to convey a message nitori olorun 1 Like |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
There's no need wasting one's precious time on critics who thought everyone is just here to defend his religion, that's why he kept saying defence! defence!! It's only in times of trouble or for the sake of an interested person that we need to defend the faith. But in the absence of that, dropping few words to make them realise they're just making noise is enough! Ask them to present a gathering where the Holy Spirit is operating today. That's all! DappaD: |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 5:10pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: This has got to be dumbest thing I've heard all week. When Jesus said at Matthew 17:22: “The Son of Man will be handed over in to the hands of evil men to be killed”, why was he mentioning himself in his statement? This just proves that you just want to continue arguing so that observers would think you have something to say meanwhile you're as emptyheaded as the other random churchgoers I've encountered on NL.
Go and open Hebrews 3:7 and 4:7 Explain to me if Paul is contradicting himself. If you can't do that, then there shouldn't be any need quoting me further. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:14pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
One thing that's certain is that the Holy Spirit works in ancient times but it's works differs from one generation to another because God doesn't need to prove himself to anyone when he has already accomplished his aim. This same spirit worked with all the servants of God but differently. So What is God using the holy spirit to accomplish today and in which gathering can we confirm it's works? Whether it's Mr/ Mrs or just an instrument of God, where can we see the WORKS of this spirit today? |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:16pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: I thought you were just brainwashed but u r naturally dull. Was the Holy Spirit speaking through Jesus in this case. No! So what's the basis for comparison. How many channels does God use to communicate. ? You said he used the Holy Spirit initially,.later u changed it to Paul. Do u see how lies are making u fool yourself in public. Old man like u. How many mediums does God use to communicate. ? 1 Like |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 5:16pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: What is still baffling me is what's going on in the other thread. None of them can seem to come to a final conclusion about the identity of their supposed Holy Ghost which they claim is a person. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:18pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Guy u wicked o. Ur fellow JW is been roasted here like he goat and u cannot assist him. Kai! No love In this your JW o |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 5:21pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: “The spirit is Jehovah is upon me” The words uttered by Jesus immediately after entering into the Jewish synagogue when he quoted Isaiah 61:1. See Luke 4:18 Except you're saying now that Jesus wasn't guided by holy spirit when he taught his disciples and the crowds. John 7:46 I'm still waiting for you to correlate Hebrews 3:7 and 4:7. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 5:23pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: There's no single intelligent statement you have made since the start of this thread til now. Na so so noise here and there. You just be like one spoilt brat that his parents neglected during childhood. That's why I'm not even going to blame you. |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:27pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: To be guided and to speak through are to diff things Mumu Is the Spirit of God not in you. Does that mean that the spirit is speaking through you. Mumu Okay provide a verse in scripture where it says Jehovah spoke through the Holy Spirit? Because that should be a precedence on which u r basing this your interpretation of Acts 13:2 We are waiting!? Use your bible |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 5:29pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: DappaD: |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:30pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: No intelligent statement, yet you are jumping from one verse to another to try to answer a question that u still cannot provide the answer to. Hahahaha hahaha......This kin tin can pain!!!!!! |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:32pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: He wants to run......hahahaha hahaha. Observers make Una hold am o, make e no run. Answer my question. Provide one Bible verse from your new world translation that shows Jehovah speaking through the Holy Spirit and it is explicitly stated. If u cannot, they why do u say so. On what authority are u saying that?......Scripture is our only standard remember |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:33pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: E don dey cancel my write up oooooooooo.........Baba is frustrated Tomorrow is Sunday, wen u reach your Kingdom hall, tell ur pastor. Pastor Pastor e kill me, e kill me!!!!!!!! |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by DappaD: 5:34pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
freshboi88: My last reply to you until you do this assignment I've given you. DappaD: |
Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by freshboi88: 5:38pm On Jan 02, 2021 |
DappaD: I am not your pupil, so u cannot be given me assignment. State your opinion here if u have any. Sign of defeat my friend Go and ask your elder. Elder Elder freshboi kill me, e kill me!!!!!!!......Bandage don full your body by now. U fit still waka well so. |
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