Incrizz:


Kindly check my previous threads.

The Second coming of CHRIST is what marks the end of the tribulation.

You have many posts but the most important thing about Knowing this is for us to be Blameless on that Terrible Day where we would be very happy to see Him and not be as those who shall mourn when He Reveals Himself!

Incrizz:


I also refuse to argue with you.
But let your faith in CHRIST wax stronger when you see the antichrist, not diminish.

Don't accept the vaccine, it is the mark of the beast.

very funny! It is you that shouldn't chicken out when you see the Anti-Christ.

And, so the Bible tells you that the vaccine is the mark of the beast!!?
And if you don't receive the vaccine (on your forehead or right hand cos that's where they put the vaccine now lolz ) you won't buy and sell! Unh!
Cheer Ignorance! You err greatly.

You should talk more of what you have deep understanding in, not something you have no idea about!

Dtruthspeaker:


You have many posts but the most important thing about Knowing this is for us to be Blameless on that Terrible Day where we would be very happy to see Him and not be as those who shall mourn when He Reveals Himself!

You are right.

What I mean is:
JESUS second coming marks the end of the tribulation. The saints will be caught up with HIM in the sky.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.


While, at HIS appearance in the sky, there will be shouts of woe by those who never believed in HIM.

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Do you get me please?

At10tion:
very funny! It is you that shouldn't chicken out when you see the Anti-Christ.

And, so the Bible tells you that the vaccine is the mark of the beast!!?
And if you don't receive the vaccine (on your forehead or right hand cos that's where they put the vaccine now lolz ) you won't buy and sell! Unh!
Cheer Ignorance! You err greatly.

You should talk more of what you have deep understanding in, not something you have no idea about!

You sound like you know the vaccine is the mark of the beast but you just have to write what you wrote in hopes that you might deceive some.
The Elect cannot be deceived.
NEVER forget that.

Jessewailer007:
Very well said it's sad that people just don't understand this things even big pastors err in this topic.... Yes. I agree with you and I also strongly believe that the doctrine of Rapture before the great tribulation period is a deception. It is not backed up by scriptures. We have to be in the tribulation to be tested and tried through the fire to come out like refined gold.
Even those who claim to be adept bible readers and teachers have erred in their opinions concerning rapture.
Remember the verse that says: "I will keep you from the temptations that will come upon the world" God was talking to the elect/saved people. If those days were not shortned, no man mught be saved but they have been shortened for the sake of the elect. It means the we are part of the Great trib.

GOD bless you.
But we must spread this news fast.
Everyone born of The Spirit of GOD will be delivered from the false indoctrination as soon as they hear this truth; rapture is AFTER the tribulation backed by Scriptures.

Jessewailer007:

Even the wealthy sinners will be suffering in the great tribulations and that is not happening today.

They will receive the mark and will be used as a source of energy to the beast.
What an evil reward!

Jessewailer007:

I have personally had a dream of what a Great trib period will look like and trust me it was not pleasant and they looked like giants and strange creatures who took us all captive and controlled the nations of the world. Technology will play a huge role in that domination.

So many people have and are beginning to have these dreams of giants destroying the world.

AI, artificial intelligence, l will declare itself god.
The have found a way to merge the demonic world through technology.
The devil will actually be the one declaring itself god in GOD's temple.
Any one who accepts the vaccine, will be logged onto the devil real time. His soul will be tossed aside. Demons will take over him.

Jessewailer007:

But do u alao remember that the bible says ; "But i will keep you safe from the time of "troubles" that will come upon the earth" ?

Revelation 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Jessewailer007:

People will want ti dies but death will be elusive and run away from them.

Revelation9:6
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Jessewailer007:

Economies will fail, no power sources, hunger, diseases, natiral disasters will be everywhere, no peace and wars and oppressions will be the order of the day.

Government and cooperate bodies are giving their power to the devil, thinking they will be spared. They will go down first

Jessewailer007:

Then in the midst of thsese, Jesus will return to gather his elect who never gave up the rightheous race. That is when the so-called rapture will take place and immediately after that, more calamities will befall those people who are left in the world or on the ground. Those who were not gathered to the air, clouds to meet with Jesus. This is the secong woe and calamity to fall upon the world. Then after all those days will then be the great day of Judgement and thrones will be set for even some of the human saints(of ancient times/old, and now) to judge the people of the world.

While the Angels of The LORD reap the saints,
Mathew 24:31
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The lawless one will be destroyed by The LORD's coming.
2 Thessalonians 2:8
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

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Incrizz:
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The believe that rapture will happen before great tribulation begins was erroneously passed down to us by father's of faith and we took everything hook, line and sinker without researching.

Now that knowledge have increased and God is pouring out revelations about this time, we are knowing better but many are not willing to change what they know

Incrizz:
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The rapture will occur precisely in the middle of the the 7 years of great tribulation, the saints of God who believe in the gospel of the water and the Spirit will go through the tribulation until 3 and half years have passed by and they will be martyred for their faith in the gospel of the water and the Spirit. It is written in Revelation. 10:7 "but in the days of the sounding of seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets" as it written clearly the ministry of God would be finished when the seventh angel is about to sound, therefore the saints of God will pass through the 6 trumpet. It is also made in the Abomination of Desolation being spoken about by prophet Daniel, in Daniel 12:12 "And from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days(1, 290 days). Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.(1, 335 days)".
The 7 years great tribulation will start from the day the nation of Israel is invaded and destroyed by a powerful country, the leader of the powerful country that will attack Israel in the nearest future will be the very antiChrist which is described by prophet Daniel as the King of the North. Both the numbers 1, 290 and 1, 335 describes about half of 7 years. He who has ear, let him to what the Spirit is saying to the churches.

live4dgospel:

The rapture will occur precisely in the middle of the the 7 years of great tribulation, the saints of God who believe in the gospel of the water and the Spirit will go through the tribulation until 3 and half years have passed by and they will be martyred for their faith in the gospel of the water and the Spirit. It is written in Revelation. 10:7 "but in the days of the sounding of seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets" as it written clearly the ministry of God would be finished when the seventh angel is about to sound, therefore the saints of God will pass through the 6 trumpet. It is also made in the Abomination of Desolation being spoken about by prophet Daniel, in Daniel 12:12 "And from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days(1, 290 days). Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.(1, 335 days)".
The 7 years great tribulation will start from the day the nation of Israel is invaded and destroyed by a powerful country, the leader of the powerful country that will attack Israel in the nearest future will be the very antiChrist which is described by prophet Daniel as the King of the North. Both the numbers 1, 290 and 1, 335 describes about half of 7 years. He who has ear, let him to what the Spirit is saying to the churches.

Mathew 24 clearly states the Elect would be around till the end of the great tribulation as the tribulation will be cut short because of them.


What I know of the Scripture, which people have interpreted as 7years period, is so different.

What I have being taught about the 4 new kingdoms that will arise is so different from the interpretation of people that it means America will be destroyed.

A lot of people get their understanding of Scriptures from what others teach on their own website. I feel we need to always confirm with GOD's Holy Spirit.

*PS, I never said you don't confirm with GOD's Holy Spirit.

annyplenty:


The believe that rapture will happen before great tribulation begins was erroneously passed down to us by father's of faith and we took everything hook, line and sinker without researching.

Now that knowledge have increased and God is pouring out revelations about this time, we are knowing better but many are not willing to change what they know

Yes Sis, you are so right.
I did swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
But the message was hidden to the end to be revealed in its proper time, I suppose.

The devils are really confused right now.

Incrizz:


Yes Sis, you are so right.
I did swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
But the message was hidden to the end to be revealed in its proper time, I suppose.

The devils are really confused right now.

Yes ma... The Devils will keep getting confused... Our eyes are now opened and now we are free!

I agree with you sis incrizz on the sequence of events but not on the vaccine being the mark of the beast. It might be a test run as to how the antichrist will control people globally but it is not the mark. The truth is all technology will be deployed by the antichrist to have this global dominance including the internet which we now use.
Here are some reasons for my assertion:
1. The mark of the beast is not going to be received by mistake. People who receive it will be making a conscious decision.
2. The proof for (1) is in Rev 13:15 as well as Rev 20:4 which suggests that the mark of the beast comes with voluntary worship of the beast... People who receive the mark are also people who voluntarily worship the beast, so you cannot receive the mark without first pledging alliance to the beast. This is not what happens with the vaccine

Willzkid:
I agree with you sis incrizz on the sequence of events but not on the vaccine being the mark of the beast. It might be a test run as to how the antichrist will control people globally but it is not the mark. The truth is all technology will be deployed by the antichrist to have this global dominance including the internet which we now use.
Here are some reasons for my assertion:
1. The mark of the beast is not going to be received by mistake. People who receive it will be making a conscious decision.
2. The proof for (1) is in Rev 13:15 as well as Rev 20:4 which suggests that the mark of the beast comes with voluntary worship of the beast... People who receive the mark are also people who voluntarily worship the beast, so you cannot receive the mark without first pledging alliance to the beast. This is not what happens with the vaccine

Thanks Willzkid.
'Just curious: how often do you listen to Bill Gates himself?

Incrizz:

Thanks Willzkid.
'Just curious: how often do you listen to Bill Gates himself?

Not so much. As I mentioned earlier, these may be preparations for what the great tribulation will be BUT it's hard to show Biblically that anyone will receive the mark by mistake. The mark has to be accomplished by a voluntary worship of the beast

Willzkid:

Not so much. As I mentioned earlier, these may be preparations for what the great tribulation will be BUT it's hard to show Biblically that anyone will receive the mark by mistake. The mark has to be accomplished by a voluntary worship of the beast

There is no where I wrote that anyone will receive the mark by mistake.

It will be a conscious decision.

But kindly be aware, you cannot buy or sell without the mark.

It is not going to be forced on anyone but it will be enforced in the society.
If you must be a part of the society, then you must take the mark.

So, many people will decide that they cannot suffer, they will want access to food, travelling, marriage, and will go ahead to take the mark.

But GOD has been training HIS children.
We are used to the sufferings of CHRIST and HIS death in our bodies.


Bill Gates himself has said the vaccine, nano bots, and the ID2020 will be one and the same thing. Same injection.
Do you have any idea what nanobots are capable of?

Did you see the word, "bot" there?
That's short for "robot", in other words, zombie.

MrPRevailer this is another thread.

My apologies. That was a wrong thread.
I meant to quote you here. Thanks.

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Incrizz:


There is no where I wrote that anyone will receive the mark by mistake.

It will be a conscious decision.

But kindly be aware, you cannot buy or sell without the mark.

It is not going to be forced on anyone but it will be enforced in the society.
If you must be a part of the society, then you must take the mark.

So, many people will decide that they cannot suffer, they will want access to food, travelling, marriage, and will go ahead to take the mark.

But GOD has been training HIS children.
We are used to the sufferings of CHRIST and HIS death in our bodies.


Bill Gates himself has said the vaccine, nano bots, and the ID2020 will be one and the same thing. Same injection.
Do you have any idea what nanobots are capable of?

Did you see the word, "bot" there?
That's short for "robot", in other words, zombie.

I see your point sister. No I did not say you said so, but my point is that anyone who receives the mark will know they are making a conscious decision to worship the antichrist.
So those being vaccinated will know that they are receiving the mark.
I agree with you on the not being able to buy or sell. In other words, the beast will be saying see you better worship me and receive the mark or vaccine OR you will not be able to buy or sell.. that's my point sister.
Yes, this vaccine might be a first step towards testing the resilience of people.

Willzkid:


I see your point sister. No I did not say you said so, but my point is that anyone who receives the mark will know they are making a conscious decision to worship the antichrist.
So those being vaccinated will know that they are receiving the mark.
I agree with you on the not being able to buy or sell. In other words, the beast will be saying see you better worship me and receive the mark or vaccine OR you will not be able to buy or sell.. that's my point sister.
Yes, this vaccine might be a first step towards testing the resilience of people.

The vaccine is the mark of the beast.
You just watch.

After people receive the vaccine, then the antichrist comes and press the button, they will be gone totally; zombified.


People donot not know.
But GOD's children who know will spread the message.

Why do you think when GOD was talking about the mark of the beast HE asked those with the mind of wisdom to discern what HE was saying?

When those who had the mind of wisdom discerned what HE was saying, they spread the message and exposed Bill Gates plot.
They exposed the devils plot.

We are all warning everyone not to take the vaccine.

The bots modify the aspects of the brain that enables you connect with GOD.

The owners of the vaccine have already exposed what the vaccine is capable of.

Do not take the covid vaccine.
The covid vaccine includes nanobots and Id2020

The vaccine is the mark of the beast.

Those who know are sending out the message to everyone.

But more importantly, give your life to CHRIST because without the Spirit of JESUS, you cannot be conscious enough to discern the deception or reject the mark of the beast.

It is The Spirit of CHRIST JESUS that is the spirit of consciousness, that will enable you make that conscious decision to reject the mark.

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Incrizz:


The vaccine is the mark of the beast.
You just watch.

After people receive the vaccine, then the antichrist comes and press the button, they will be gone totally; zombified.


People donot not know.
But GOD's children who know will spread the message.

Why do you think when GOD was talking about the mark of the beast HE asked those with the mind of wisdom to discern what HE was saying?

When those who had the mind of wisdom discerned what HE was saying, they spread the message and exposed Bill Gates plot.
They exposed the devils plot.

We are all warning everyone not to take the vaccine.

The bots modify the aspects of the brain that enables you connect with GOD.

The owners of the vaccine have already exposed what the vaccine is capable of.

Do not take the covid vaccine.
The covid vaccine includes nanobots and Id2020

The vaccine is the mark of the beast.

Those who know are sending out the message to everyone.

But more importantly, give your life to CHRIST because without the Spirit of JESUS, you cannot be conscious enough to discern the deception or reject the mark of the beast.

It is The Spirit of CHRIST JESUS that is the spirit of consciousness, that will enable you make that conscious decision to reject the mark.

No. The Vaccine is not th mark of the beast.
The mark of the beast /the breakthrough will come out at the revelation of the Antichrist.

The vaccines are no doubt dangerous. But they haven't gotten the breakthrough the are looking for yet. People die from the vaccines because the nanobots reach to the brain but with sometimes severe consequences. For now, these vaccines are experiments with technical challenges.


Please read these articles.

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/brain-cloud-interface-nanobots-global-superbrain

Moderna admits here that what they inject now is an “operating system.”
https://interestingengineering.com/nanobots-will-be-flowing-through-your-body-by-2030

Nanobots Will Be Flowing Through Your Body by 2030
http://tapnewswire.com/2021/01/moderna-admits-here-that-what-they-inject-now-is-an-operating-system/

Incrizz:
MrPRevailer this is another thread.

I just want you to know the rapture is before the great tribulation (pre-tribulation).

Please read Revelation chapter 19. It's very clear there.

The resurrection of the dead in Christ (catching away) is different from the resurrection of they who were slain for refusing the mark of the Antichrist.

Those who are raptured are they who are called to the wedding of the Lamb. They also will follow Jesus to war against the Antichrist. (They are Called, Chosen and Faithful) -see also Revelation 17:14

Remember, Matthew 24:45 (Who then is a faithful servant, whom his Lord.....)

Matthew 25 "The Wise and the Foolish virgins"
The wise/faithful/prepared virgins are CALLED to the wedding. The foolish virgins are left outside.

After the war is over, those (the foolish virgins)
who died refusing the beast's mark will be resurrected to reign with Christ.

Incrizz:


Mathew 24 clearly states the Elect would be around till the end of the great tribulation as the tribulation will be cut short because of them.


What I know of the Scripture, which people have interpreted as 7years period, is so different.

What I have being taught about the 4 new kingdoms that will arise is so different from the interpretation of people that it means America will be destroyed.

A lot of people get their understanding of Scriptures from what others teach on their own website. I feel we need to always confirm with GOD's Holy Spirit.

*PS, I never said you don't confirm with GOD's Holy Spirit.

The elect are the believers/virgins of Christ who are left behind and will pass through the fire of great tribulation.
Also, there are unbelievers who have been hearing the gospel truth but didn't take it seriously that will repent and determine not to take the mark of the beast.
They are the elects and saints of the great tribulation.

The faithful believers/virgins are the church called to the wedding of the Lamb.

Luke 21:36 "Watch therefore, and pray at all times that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

GOD be praised.

Realray read the first post too. Thanks

MrPRevailer:


The elect are the believers/virgins of Christ who are left behind and will pass through the fire of great tribulation.
Also, there are unbelievers who have been hearing the gospel truth but didn't take it seriously that will repent and determine not to take the mark of the beast.
They are the elects and saints of the great tribulation.

The faithful believers/virgins are the church called to the wedding of the Lamb.

Luke 21:36 "Watch therefore, and pray at all times that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

The elect are not left behind christians but the 144,000 jews and other gentiles that would believe in Christ during the tribulation.
Pre tribulation rapture is actually the correct teaching.

livingchrist:

The elect are not left behind christians but the 144,000 jews and other gentiles that would believe in Christ during the tribulation.
Pre tribulation rapture is actually the correct teaching.

Lol... If pretribulation rapture is correct, can you please explain if a resurrection will occur at the rapture?

obonujoker:


Lol... If pretribulation rapture is correct, can you please explain if a resurrection will occur at the rapture?

Yes there will be a resurrection that will occur, the reason why many do not understand the pretribulation rapture is time, they cannot accept that sometimes in prophecies time is ignored. What do I mean? In the old testament the prophecies concerning Christ first and second coming is spoken as if they will happen at the same time, but actually the two events were separated by thousands of years.

Same with the resurrection

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The resurrection is spoken as if the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous will take place at the same time but actually the both resurrection has a time gap between them.
Same with the prophecies of Jesus
John 5:28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Again Jesus spoke as if the resurrection would take place at the same time but they are separated by atleast 1000 years.

First is the resurrection of the righteous which begins at the rapture, and comes to consummation when Jesus comes down to earth, after then the millennium reign of Christ followed by the second resurrection and then the judgment.

I personally I dont separate the rapture from the second coming of Christ only it takes place in stages, first is the rapture and then Christ comes down to the earth, but there is time between the rapture and christ coming down, this time is about 7 years which is the tribulation period.
In summary, prophecies usually ignore time except such time is of prophetic essence such as the 70 weeks of daniel prophecy, of which that seventy weeks is not even completed, it remains one week which is seven days, this is the seven years gap between the rapture and Christ coming down, so that at the end of the seventy weeks Christ would have come down and fulfill all the prophecies written concerning Israel.

This thing is straight forward to some extent. O wonder why people keep misunderstanding and mixing it up.

How can you say the great tribulation will come before the rapture.

I guess where you guys are getting it all wrong is where the Bible talks about the regular tribulation ( the world is facing right now) it says we should be of good cheer that he has overcome. BUT this is different from the GREAT TRIBULATION that will come after the rapture bearing the Antichrist.

livingchrist:

The elect are not left behind christians but the 144,000 jews and other gentiles that would believe in Christ during the tribulation.
Pre tribulation rapture is actually the correct teaching.

I agree with everything you said except "they are not left behind christians"

Those watching and praying, spotless christians will be raptured.
Those christians who had one sin or another in their lives (unchecked) will be leftbehind as the parable of the Wise and foolish virgins explained in Matthew 25. They can only be saved by refusing the Antichrist system or being matrys of the gospel.
The 144,000 Jews and the two witnesses are the elects of God.

During the great tribulation of the Antichrist, the wedding of the bridegroom will be ongoing in heaven.

MrPRevailer:


I agree with everything you said except "they are not left behind christians"

Those watching and praying, spotless christians will be raptured.
Those christians who had one sin or another in their lives (unchecked) will be leftbehind as the parable of the Wise and foolish virgins explained in Matthew 25. They can only be saved by refusing the Antichrist system or being matrys of the gospel.
The 144,000 Jews and the two witnesses are the elects of God.

During the great tribulation of the Antichrist, the wedding of the bridegroom will be ongoing in heaven.

So whose blood with save the left behind christians?? Their own blood??

Remember after the bridegroom came, the door was shut.. And the foolish virgins came later, what was the bridegroom's response?

Also do you remember that there will be two resurrections? When will the first resurrection happen? And do you agree there will be a resurrection at the rapture of the saints?

CharisEleos:
This thing is straight forward to some extent. O wonder why people keep misunderstanding and mixing it up.

How can you say the great tribulation will come before the rapture.

I guess where you guys are getting it all wrong is where the Bible talks about the regular tribulation ( the world is facing right now) it says we should be of good cheer that he has overcome. BUT this is different from the GREAT TRIBULATION that will come after the rapture bearing the Antichrist.

So what tribulation was Jesus talking about in Matthew 24: 28-31?