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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Focusmind: 6:00pm On Jan 11, 2021
Nicoswit:

Does that mean building sucess in EU is more difficult?

Well, the visa policy during our time was tough then. The conservative government of David Cameron in 2009 made it extremely difficult for foreign students to secure a well paying job to apply for permanent leave to stay in the UK. I actually got full time job with NHS in St. Andrews but my gross income was lower than the minimum £25k then that would have qualified me.

Luckily, an investment bank in Nigeria came calling and I boarded the ship back home. So far, so good. No regret yet.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by nairatony(m): 6:00pm On Jan 11, 2021
tunapawizzy:

forget say the year just start...no foolishness can beat the post for the rest of the year.....i am certain
Lol

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Basalt(m): 6:01pm On Jan 11, 2021
Watch out people, this was the exact advice that held me back for years in Nigeria earning less than #30,000 as a private school teacher hoping to be among those that would make it to Forbe list.

I lived in such imaginary illusion for years before I came back to my senses and traveled out to Germany for my Msc, and through my part time Jobs, I came to realize what salary actually means.
The first thing I did after arriving in Germany was regretting not leaving Nigeria earlier.

Since the OP has started giving you Stat ask him to give you the Stat of the total number of Nigerians making it to Forbe list.
The last time I checked the Forbe list, I doubt if I saw upto 4 Nigerian names there.
Four out of over 200miliion people.

You see ehhh, I hate unfair analysis. You guys should stop discouraging people.
If Nigeria favours you, good but just understand that it doesn't favour everyone.

I was actually angry with the OP until I saw his last points. He said it all, if you are doing well in Nigeria stay, but please if you are not doing well, please find a way to leave, come back when you have made money.
Nigeria hardly favours the poor, I have lived in for over 25yrs of my life and believe me I saw it all.
I have lived abroad for almost 2yrs and I can tell the difference.

Comparing Nigeria to abroad is unfair unless the person is from a wealthy background,, if you are not from wealthy background or from the background of the elite, it's not a fair comparison at all in all ramifications.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by humilitypays(m): 6:09pm On Jan 11, 2021
demanuel:

@ bolded, I talked about this sometime ago, and someone was saying that the purchasing power in Nigeria is very low, as most Nigerians spend a larger sum of their income on food alone, hence the environment is not conducive to build a good business. Also taking into consideration the level of insecurity.
Your thoughts?
Don't mind all those theory talking parrots lolz



Trading and anything business thrives in Nigeria. There are a lot of services to render to Nigerians. There are a lot of products to be sold to Nigerians. All you need is to study your environment and find out what is in highest demand and try to queue in with your creativeness.



Which job can earn you 500,000naira in one day in Nigeria or abroad cool
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Coolcalmcollect(m): 6:10pm On Jan 11, 2021
Princewill1:
The high successes recorded by dubious politicians, fraudulent pastors and ponzi scheme operators in Nigeria are living proofs that Nigerians can be so gullible. We can easily be deceived. The astronomical hype on Canada is the latest deceit in town. Here are things you need to know before immigrating.

1. The list of richest Nigerians is filled with Nigerians living at home. You're more likely to make it into Forbes if you live in Nigeria. At least that's what the stat shows, whether people making into Forbes in Nigeria are engaging in corrupt practices is a story for another day. The odds of becoming a dollar billionaire favours those at home . No Diaspora Nigerian has ever made it into Forbes billionaire list.

2. There are more money to be made in a developing economy than in a developed economy. That's why as you're rushing out of the country, Lebanese, Indians and Chinese are rushing in. Only few will understand. You're sitting on the biggest market in Africa yet you haven't realize this but the Lebanese and the Indians knew this.

3. If you are the type who don't fancy working for others, it's much more easier to own a business in Nigeria than in Canada/US. Western countries were set up for the 99% populace to work for 1% elites. Their education systems were designed to produce workforce for the rat race. Not to create employers of labour.

4. It's stupidity to resign from a high-paying job in Nigeria in a bid to relocate to Canada/US. Your eyes will get clear up when you start facing the hard realities in Canada. Those who had made this mistake in the past are ashamed to come on social media to talk about it. The ones talking on Twitter are 'freshers' who just arrived.

5. If you want to secure 2nd passport for your kids, you don't necessarily need to immigrate to achieve this. There are other ways, one method is overseas child birth.

6. You're 5x more likely to be shot and rubbed in New York than in Lagos. Poor neighborhoods all over the world has more crime rates. The thing is, when you finally made it in Nigeria,you can move to high brow areas with lesser crime.

7. Nigerians are spending up to 8millions ($21k) and above to immigrate to Canada/US whereas an average canadian or American citizen can't boast of $10k in their bank A/C's. They live pay check to pay check.

8. Some Nigerians claims that they ain't relocating because of the money but because of good infrastructure, good health care system, value for their money etc. That's a lie! 98% of Nigerians who're eager to travel out are relocating because of economic reasons. There are good infrastructure, good health care system and value for money in countries like Kuwait, Russia, Brazil, South Korea, Chile etc but Nigerians ain't trooping there, indicating that their preference for Canada/US is purely based on economic reasons.

9. It's cheaper to live in Nigeria. Canada/US promises higher minimum wage but the system will still take it away from you. It's like giving you with one hand and taking from you with another. $2k (N760k) will pay for your one year rent of 2 bedrooms apartment in a good location in Nigeria but same amount will only fetch you one month rent of a match box apartment in Canada/US.

10. This is not to stop you from traveling out but to inform you on the true realities. Economic immigration should be left for lower or working class who're struggling or to young lads who wants to school abroad and thereafter further their career overseas. Not to deceive Nigerians already earning good in corporate offices in Nigeria to resign and relocate where they will be employed as security guards or to deceive business owners who's businesses are thriving in Nigeria to close down business and relocate. Don't let them deceive you with the hype. Money don't grow on trees anywhere in the world.
I don't care if I'll be blocked but op you're stupid, very stupid....you're a rare breed idiot. How do you sit down and say it's better to be in Nigeria than canada or the usa. the funny thing is the bastard might not even be in Nigeria... na ogun go kill you for that abroad wey u dey dey mock us animal

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by humilitypays(m): 6:12pm On Jan 11, 2021
Basalt:
Watch out people, this was the exact advice that held me back for years in Nigeria earning less than #30,000 as a private school teacher hoping to among those that would make it to Forbe list.

I lived in such imaginary illusion for years before I came back to my senses and traveled out to Germany for my Msc, and through my part time Jobs, I came to realize what salary actually means.
The first thing I did after arriving in Germany was regretting not leaving Nigeria earlier.

Since the OP has started giving you Stat ask him to give you the total number of Nigerians making it to Forbe list.
The last time I checked the Forbe list, I doubt if I saw upto 4 Nigerian names there.
Four out of over 200miliion people.

You see ehhh, I hate unfair analysis. You guys should stop discouraging people.
If Nigeria favours you, good but just understand that it doesn't favour everyone.

I was actually angry with the OP until I saw his last points. He said it all, if you are doing well in Nigeria stay, but please if you are not doing well, please find a way to leave, come back when you have made money.
Nigeria hardly favours the poor, I have lived in for over 25yrs of my life and believe me I saw it all.
I have lived abroad for almost 2yrs and I can tell the difference.

Comparing Nigeria to abroad is unfair unless the person is from a wealthy background
This has always been my own advice to people too.


If you are doing well in Nigeria, stay and work towards increment in income and then plan for your kids to enjoy the abroad experience you couldn't get, that's it.


Quitting your good paying job or thriving business to immigrate abroad is stupidity to me because once you land abroad, you will definitely be starting life from scratch. Many go back to school to study the lucrative course in their destination country. That's years wasted

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 6:14pm On Jan 11, 2021
demanuel:

@ bolded, I talked about this sometime ago, and someone was saying that the purchasing power in Nigeria is very low, as most Nigerians spend a larger sum of their income on food alone, hence the environment is not conducive to build a good business. Also taking into consideration the level of insecurity.
Your thoughts?
well, this is what insecurity is capable of causing,

It will chase away every kind of good thing from a place including the high purchasing power u mentioned needed for business to flourish, it will chase away the best brains, best talents, foreign investments,

then finally, the little revenue will then be taken away in the form of capital flight (to add insult to injury- this is what the Bible meant by: but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away grin grin -matt 25 vs 24-30 in the parable of the talent).

Just imagine 5m-10m/head for those emigrating!

And stupid so-called leaders are not bothered or concerned

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by themaestro08(m): 6:18pm On Jan 11, 2021
Most of what you typed up there is misinformation at best and outright lies at worst which absolutely can easily be debunked.


The high successes recorded by dubious politicians, fraudulent pastors and ponzi scheme operators in Nigeria are living proofs that Nigerians can be so gullible. We can easily be deceived. The astronomical hype on Canada is the latest deceit in town. Here are things you need to know before immigrating.

It's not deception, it's real. It's a decision a lot of people took and down the road they are thanking their stars they took the bold step. Now let me debunked your lies one after another cool

1. The list of richest Nigerians is filled with Nigerians living at home. You're more likely to make it into Forbes if you live in Nigeria. At least that's what the stat shows, whether people making into Forbes in Nigeria are engaging in corrupt practices is a story for another day. The odds of becoming a dollar billionaire favours those at home . No Diaspora Nigerian has ever made it into Forbes billionaire list.

The same Forbes published its list of African billionaires 2020 and you know what just four Nigerians are in the list out of twenty - Africa has just 20 people deemed to be called billionaires, while on the other hand, Canada alone has 44 billionaires shocked, twice that of Africa plus four. And its important to know that majority of these Canadian billionaires have foreign ancestry or are immigrants.

Nigeria with a population of 200+million has just four billionaires while Canada with 40million has 44 billionaires. Do the maths, connect the dots and stop being delusional.

And should we talk of the fact to make a fortune in Nigeria one has to make strong connections and cut corners, be neck-deeped in corruption practices and so on.

The vast majority of prospective immigrants aim of emigrating is not to be on Forbes list, neither do they aim to be millionaires, all what they are after is a good and effective system that rewards hardwork.

Source: Forbes, Wikipedia.

2. There are more money to be made in a developing economy than in a developed economy. That's why as you're rushing out of the country, Lebanese, Indians and Chinese are rushing in. Only few will understand. You're sitting on the biggest market in Africa yet you haven't realize this but the Lebanese and the Indians knew this.

Of India more than 20 million diaspora population more than 3/4 of them are in Western countries. Only few of them are in Africa due to numerous factors such as political instability and so on.

Source: Wikipedia

However, Despite Nigeria being way populous than Canada, the latter has way more middle class and millionaires than Nigeria. The vast majority of Nigerians are poor, the rest are struggling, the middle class are not even up to 5% of the total population.

3. If you are the type who don't fancy working for others, it's much more easier to own a business in Nigeria than in Canada/US. Western countries were set up for the 99% populace to work for 1% elites. Their education systems were designed to produce workforce for the rat race. Not to create employers of labour.

Again total lies. Nigeria ranks pathetically poor in ease of doing business index, close to bottom I think. Of the excelling countries 2/3 are Western countries. A start up company is much likely to thrive in a developed country like Canada than Nigeria due to obvious reasons.

4. It's stupidity to resign from a high-paying job in Nigeria in a bid to relocate to Canada/US. Your eyes will get clear up when you start facing the hard realities in Canada. Those who had made this mistake in the past are ashamed to come on social media to talk about it. The ones talking on Twitter are 'freshers' who just arrived.

For a start, you earn way higher in Canada for the same job than in Nigeria. BTW, people look at the bigger picture when emigrating, its not all about money,how about a good system that answers 70-80% of your prayer point? I mean a fair and just system, where a child of a nobody can become somebody without connections? You only get that in a developed country liked Canada.

5. If you want to secure 2nd passport for your kids, you don't necessarily need to immigrate to achieve this. There are other ways, one method is overseas child birth.

It's not all about kids. Oneself matters and the easiest way to go about it is by dumping this shit hole cool


. 6. You're 5x more likely to be shot and rubbed in New York than in Lagos. Poor neighborhoods all over the world has more crime rates. The thing is, when you finally made it in Nigeria,you can move to high brow areas with lesser crime.

Again a fat lie, the crime per capita of Lagos is way higher than New york, heck, its not even comparable.


7. Nigerians are spending up to 8millions ($21k) and above to immigrate to Canada/US whereas an average canadian or American citizen can't boast of $10k in their bank A/C's. They live pay check to pay check.

Last time I checked, America has more than 17 million millionaires, 614 billionaires and tens of millions of middle class cool.

The average American can afford the basic like decent healthcare, good education, basic tech gadgets, enjoys world class infrastructure and so on. Whereas, the average Nigerian is pathetically poor, barely afford 3 decent meals a day, manages a meagre salary and so on.


8. Some Nigerians claims that they ain't relocating because of the money but because of good infrastructure, good health care system, value for their money etc. That's a lie! 98% of Nigerians who're eager to travel out are relocating because of economic reasons. There are good infrastructure, good health care system and value for money in countries like Kuwait, Russia, Brazil, South Korea, Chile etc but Nigerians ain't trooping there, indicating that their preference for Canada/US is purely based on economic reasons.

To put the likes of Chile ,Brazil and Kuwait in the same pedestal with Canada in terms of quality of public services clearly shows you know clue what you are talking about.

Canada is categorized as a highly developed and a high income country whose quality of life is considered topnotch whereas the countries you mentioned are at best newly industrialized countries and at worst developing.

9. It's cheaper to live in Nigeria. Canada/US promises higher minimum wage but the system will still take it away from you. It's like giving you with one hand and taking from you with another. $2k (N760k) will pay for your one year rent of 2 bedrooms apartment in a good location in Nigeria but same amount will only fetch you one month rent of a match box apartment in Canada/US.

When making comparisons you compare apples with apples not with oranges, to do otherwise is height of bias and double standard.

Wages are different likewise cost of living. An average Canadian earns 4- 5 × what an average Nigerian worker earns. That should sink in.

10. This is not to stop you from traveling out but to inform you on the true realities. Economic immigration should be left for lower or working class who're struggling or to young lads who wants to school abroad and thereafter further their career overseas. Not to deceive Nigerians already earning good in corporate offices in Nigeria to resign and relocate where they will be employed as security guards or to deceive business owners who's businesses are thriving in Nigeria to close down business and relocate. Don't let them deceive you with the hype. Money don't grow on trees anywhere in the world.

You may think you drive home some point but truth is almost what you typed is gibberish and lies which can easily be debunked. In your effort to sound knowledgeable and wise you end up showcasing yourself as a dumb and unintelligent fellow. The earlier you wake up and smell the coffee the better for you.

my fellow Nigerians, whoever have the means to leave this country do so without hesitation. Unfortunate people like this guy will try to concort lies and half truths all in a bid to discourage and twart your plans, NEVER GIVE THEM THE CHANCE, YOU WILL REGRET IT.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by blackboy2star(m): 6:25pm On Jan 11, 2021
I never knew New York is in Canada... Foolish post
Invictus That was mentioned by Forbes where's he now?
Billionaires with zero industries, zero infrastructure, zero security etc

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Sultannayef: 7:14pm On Jan 11, 2021
Kingstanding:
. You're fucking crazy. I reside in Montreal ok. Idiot. What is the basic salary of permanent secretary in Nigeria? They all rely on fraudulent activities ok. Without corruption no permanent secretary can build 4 bedroom flat.

People don’t know, they just spew nonsense.
For peoples information: a Federal Perm Sec in Nigeria gets paid 24m annually legitimately.
My dad is one and I know this.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Maturedconnect: 7:35pm On Jan 11, 2021
Sultannayef:


People don’t know, they just spew nonsense.
For peoples information: a Federal Perm Sec in Nigeria gets paid 24m annually legitimately.
My dad is one and I know this.






An opportunity that comes ones in a blue moon, is that one an opportunity...naija I hail thee.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by olawale1516(m): 7:35pm On Jan 11, 2021
[quote author=Princewill1 thank I will listen to you when I reach Canada.
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by solla22: 7:56pm On Jan 11, 2021
Seems this is coming from someone that resorted to faith because immigration did not work out.

That said - only because most of your points are not exactly true.

1. Not like we have so many Nigerians on the Forbes list to start accessing locations of Nigerians that make it to the Forbes list.
2. The Lebanese and Chinese that are trooping in are not just coming with an empty head and empty pockets to do charity work - they are heavily backed by many private fundings and financially and tech-wise.
3. Are you really saying setting up a company is easier in Nigeria - I live in Canada - I registered a company (online) in 25 mins and in 3 months bank called me for a line of credit (@3% interest Rate) to jump-start my business (even though I had no real plan)
4. Partly agree here .. But i would rather suggest you have a soft landing and do a deeper analysis of the target destination.
5. Partly true if the reason is only for the children - But in most cases its not only for the children
6. Are we talking about New York or Canada? Good to know that only specific neighborhoods are this way in new york and are they not so easy to avoid them?
7. An Average salary earner lives from paycheck to paycheck every where in the world - But what happens when you lose your job in Canada - Govt pays you an up keep for say 10 months - is that the case in Nigeria ?
8. You mentioned there is good infra in places like Kuwait, Russia, South Korea... Do they have immigration programs like that of Canada?
9. I won't even talk about this .. Because to really compare you should compare GDP, economy etc

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Mcslize: 7:59pm On Jan 11, 2021
Focusmind:
My annoyance is that all the people that writes about migrating to Canada are actually resident there, holed up in Brampton or Calgary and be discouraging people from embarking on the same journey.

It is already a well known fact that Nigerians abroad hates fellow Nigerians trying to make the same immigration journey. I don't know why. Please leave people to make their decision.

So the Op is even living abroad?
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by solla22: 8:00pm On Jan 11, 2021
There's freedom of speech in South Korea o .. Its North Korea that does not have freedom of speech.


privaldo:




You're also more likely to climb the ladder without bribery or "man know man" if live in a working system like Canada. There are so many Nigerians who are wealthy and making it outside country, such as the CEO of Calendly, and not everyone wishes to make the Forbes list.



The Lebanese, Indians, and Chinese are also trooping into Canada and it's like massively. Immigration stats shows that Chinese and Indians are among the highest legal immigrants in Western countries. Not everyone one must stay in a developing and destabilized economy that lacks direction.



Again, you have no stats for this. The United States churns out the highest amount of millionaires annually, and also the largest amount of startups globally this can't be achieved in a nation like Nigeria which practices exactly what you talked of.



Someone's choice can't be termed stupid because it doesn't suit your narrative. People live Nigeria to Canada and other developed countries every month and guess what they survive and adapt to the system.

Why will a Software Engineer work in Nigeria and earn N800,000 a month but still be scared of harassment/death from security operatives when Canada can offer you more money for your job, and security of your life.



It's not just about giving your children second passports after all Brazil offers that, it's about allowing them grow up in a sane environment where things work and people, government, and institutions can be held accountable for their actions.



You're using New York as an example compared to Lagos where this happens everyday in almost every location. The killings in New York mostly takes place in just Brooklyn but in Lagos everywhere is a hotspot.

Again, a person will have to wait in Nigeria to become wealthy to live in high brow area to be safe. Living in the so called "high brow area" is not even cheap as you state it, rent for a house in Lekki can go as high as N 800,000 for a self contain, the big question is how many Nigerians can afford it?



It is wiser to live pay check to pay check than to have all the money in Nigeria, and be killed by either a poor health system, unprofessional security operative or any of the inadequacy that dwells in Nigeria beside they will pay tax which will solve most of the problems that bothers average Nigerian.



There are Nigerians in all this countries you called but some Nigerians have their reason for preferring the West above all this other countries, some of which are;

- Right to Freedom of Speech: Aside South Korea, and Brazil every other country you called trample on the right to free speech including Chile.

Also there is nothing wrong in migrating to a country because of their economy, the UAE is getting stronger economically and people are migrating there, so this your point isn't valid.



Your comparison is awful, you compare countries based on their purchasing power and not just saying "it's cheaper to live in Nigeria". Canada/United States is more powerful than Nigeria economically, so the living standards are high. Someone from the United States/Canada who immigrated to Switzerland/Norway will also find the living standards high.



This is a lie most you "stay in Nigeria preachers" peddle and the gullible always believe it without further research/inquiries. If you migrate as an Accountant to the United States/Canada you will work as an Accountant, you may need some certificates to practice there like we have ICAN in Nigeria this is same for every other profession.

Nigeria is on the list of countries with poor/worst ease of doing business and it has been on the list for a longtime and it isn't leaving it soon. Do you know why it makes that list? It's because this no system or structure put in place for business owners. Any Tom, Dick or Harry can claim to be a task force and take money from business owners, and this cycle continues as more of them will come thereby ruining the business.

Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Halifaxguy: 8:04pm On Jan 11, 2021
ednut1:
you lie. Most of those going to canada are high earners. But sanity is key. I save times 5 of what i did in Nigeria and i work for same company and do same job. So find another thing talk. I know people on 800k 900k still going to canada. Nigeria is a time bomb waiting to explode

I had actually observed from your comments that you used every opportunity to paint Nigeria bad. You have not even stayed up to one year in Canada, you have started looking at those living in 9ja as stupid. This attitude is very bad and common to newcomers like you. I have seen some newcomers like you degrading Nigeria their home country in front of their white colleagues or friends. Very unfortunate indeed! Granted, Canada has a workable system to an extent while Nigeria system is messed up due to the ruling elites and average 9ja citizens. The fact you are currently living in Canada does not make you much better than someone who has a good job or business in 9ja and doing well in his endeavors. Like I always say, no where in the world is paradise. Every country has their pros and cons. Those who want to migrate to Canada should be allow to migrate in peace, and those who migrated to Canny should allow those living in 9ja to live in peace and stop those unnecessary comparisons. Not everyone will make in 9ja same as not everyone will make it in Canny. The prayer is God should bless the work of our hand wherever we find ourselves.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by ednut1(m): 8:19pm On Jan 11, 2021
Halifaxguy:


I had actually observed from your comments that you used every opportunity to paint Nigeria bad. You have not even stayed up to one year in Canada, you have started looking at those living in 9ja as stupid. This attitude is very bad and common to newcomers like you. I have seen some newcomers like you degrading Nigeria their home country in front of their white colleagues or friends. Very unfortunate indeed! Granted, Canada has a workable system to an extent while Nigeria system is messed up due to the ruling elites and average 9ja citizens. The fact you are currently living in Canada does not make you much better than someone who has a good job or business in 9ja and doing well in his endeavors. Like I always say, no where in the world is paradise. Every country has their pros and cons. Those who want to migrate to Canada should be allow to migrate in peace, and those who migrated to Canny should allow those living in 9ja to live in peace and stop those unnecessary comparisons. Not everyone will make in 9ja same as not everyone will make it in Canny. The prayer is God should bless the work of our hand wherever we find ourselves.
where did i bad mouth Nigeria I only stated the facts. The op was yabbing those who chose to relocate. He open a thread. I didn't. I dont go about bad mouthing Nigeria in real life. Your are in NS why not refute my points if they are not true angry
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by abekiade1: 8:22pm On Jan 11, 2021
Best post i ve read so far this year, let him who have ears, hear .

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Mcslize: 8:32pm On Jan 11, 2021
blackpanda:


No sir i have lived abroad before. i can travel for vacation but never to immigrate. Many people get there only to be shocked by the realities
The grass is not always greener on the other side. Immigration is not for everybody

There are different types of abroad, which one did you go? If it is Malaysia, bro that's not abroad. Cuz most of
you who managed to travel to one developing country are always fond of still claiming to have travelled abroad whereas it's still a developing country.

I believe it's not a first world country you are referring to as you have travelled abroad before.
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Mcslize: 8:39pm On Jan 11, 2021
blackpanda:


The OP has already done that. That is enough info on the two
What i will add is that travelling abroad and living abroad are two different things. When u travel u only see the things the want u to see, the beauty, infrastructure etc. But when u are living there, the nightmare will dawn on u. That said, everyone can make up their mind as to what they wish. I cant say people should use my experience not to emigrate. I can only tell u what i know, living in naija is far better!

Mention the country you lived in abroad. Which country?
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Mcslize: 8:44pm On Jan 11, 2021
Maturedconnect:


well as it does not work for u,it doesn't mean it won't work for others...all I know is there is so much opportunity there in abroad..base on experiences from friends and family

It might not really be a first world country he travelled to. People still call Afghanistan abroad na. And if anyone travels there, he will surely think he has travelled abroad as well na, but unknown to him, abroad get level.

Most abroad some persons always mentioned that they have travelled to are backyard developing, third world abroad. But when people are discussing abroad, they will still want to use their experience from a third world abroad to generalise first world countries that are the main abroad.
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Mcslize: 8:54pm On Jan 11, 2021
gopel8052:


Give me. 5 million dollars, I'll give you my western passport, a mortgage with equity almost paid off , my range rover car.

grin


Bro, when are you coming to join us in Nigeria? We need you here. At least come and have a taste of kidnapping and robbery.

You must be the number one joker of the year.
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by BlackFlamefromP: 8:54pm On Jan 11, 2021
I see your comment as an invalid excuse though.

What you guys fail to understand is that the end-SARS protesters definitely pushed the government to the wall.

The original purpose of the protest was to force the government to scrape SARS. The very moment the federal government bowed to the pressure and demand of the protesters and scraped SARS there was no longer any justification for the continuation of the protest.

It got a point where the government had no better alternative than to use some force to quell the protest as it was obvious some anti-nigeria elements were trying to use the so-called peaceful protesters to bring down both the Nigerian government and the economy.

As far as I am concern, whatever action the government took to end the protest was okay by me as there is no government anywhere in the world that would fold its hand and watch some idiot bring down the government and the economy in the name of 'peaceful protest' that has no justification.

Moreover, you guys must always bear in mind that those idiots who came out to protest at lekki tollgate that night committed a crime for coming out when there was curfew in place!

For your information, I am not a Buhari's fan neither do I belong to any political party. I'm just a patriotic Nigerian who hate lawlessness and anarchy. Thank you.



ModestGal:

I used to talk same way before the end SARS, but afterwards I realize poor man does not have a voice or anypower to change anything in Nigeria

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jan 11, 2021
Mcslize:


Bro, when are you coming to join us in Nigeria? We need you here. At least come and have a taste of kidnapping and robbery.

You must be the number one joker of the year.

Money for hand back for ground. You feel me grin
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by makaveli902: 9:09pm On Jan 11, 2021
Kriss216:
The year just started, but, I nominate this post as the Most Foolish post of the year!



Trying to compare staying in Canada and staying in Nigeria should be treated as a Criminal offence.


Don't mind that ENEMY OF PROGRESS!
Is this not a typical example of HATE SPEECH?
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Mcslize: 9:14pm On Jan 11, 2021
humilitypays:
Na only insecurity de fear me for Naija, nothing else cry cry

If we can have good security of lives and properties in Nigeria, my brother I can boldly tell you that Nigeria is second paradise cheesy cheesy

You are not supposed to be afraid of insecurity bro. You are a good patriot. Nigeria will protect you trust me. Just in case you get kidnapped, FG government will send its force to rescue you instantly just like US came to rescue their kidnapped Citizen in Nigeria with their force last year.

You are 100% protected brother. Your money will protect you as most of you always claim.

A good patriot like you supposed not to be scared of the insecurities in the country.

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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by privaldo: 9:18pm On Jan 11, 2021
solla22:
There's freedom of speech in South Korea o .. Its North Korea that does not have freedom of speech.



Yes, I know it was clearly stated in the write up.
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by LadyPortable(f): 9:27pm On Jan 11, 2021
privaldo:




You're also more likely to climb the ladder without bribery or "man know man" if live in a working system like Canada. There are so many Nigerians who are wealthy and making it outside country, such as the CEO of Calendly, and not everyone wishes to make the Forbes list.



The Lebanese, Indians, and Chinese are also trooping into Canada and it's like massively. Immigration stats shows that Chinese and Indians are among the highest legal immigrants in Western countries. Not everyone one must stay in a developing and destabilized economy that lacks direction.



Again, you have no stats for this. The United States churns out the highest amount of millionaires annually, and also the largest amount of startups globally this can't be achieved in a nation like Nigeria which practices exactly what you talked of.



Someone's choice can't be termed stupid because it doesn't suit your narrative. People live Nigeria to Canada and other developed countries every month and guess what they survive and adapt to the system.

Why will a Software Engineer work in Nigeria and earn N800,000 a month but still be scared of harassment/death from security operatives when Canada can offer you more money for your job, and security of your life.



It's not just about giving your children second passports after all Brazil offers that, it's about allowing them grow up in a sane environment where things work and people, government, and institutions can be held accountable for their actions.



You're using New York as an example compared to Lagos where this happens everyday in almost every location. The killings in New York mostly takes place in just Brooklyn but in Lagos everywhere is a hotspot.

Again, a person will have to wait in Nigeria to become wealthy to live in high brow area to be safe. Living in the so called "high brow area" is not even cheap as you state it, rent for a house in Lekki can go as high as N 800,000 for a self contain, the big question is how many Nigerians can afford it?



It is wiser to live pay check to pay check than to have all the money in Nigeria, and be killed by either a poor health system, unprofessional security operative or any of the inadequacy that dwells in Nigeria beside they will pay tax which will solve most of the problems that bothers average Nigerian.



There are Nigerians in all this countries you called but some Nigerians have their reason for preferring the West above all this other countries, some of which are;

- Right to Freedom of Speech: Aside South Korea, and Brazil every other country you called trample on the right to free speech including Chile.

Also there is nothing wrong in migrating to a country because of their economy, the UAE is getting stronger economically and people are migrating there, so this your point isn't valid.



Your comparison is awful, you compare countries based on their purchasing power and not just saying "it's cheaper to live in Nigeria". Canada/United States is more powerful than Nigeria economically, so the living standards are high. Someone from the United States/Canada who immigrated to Switzerland/Norway will also find the living standards high.



This is a lie most you "stay in Nigeria preachers" peddle and the gullible always believe it without further research/inquiries. If you migrate as an Accountant to the United States/Canada you will work as an Accountant, you may need some certificates to practice there like we have ICAN in Nigeria this is same for every other profession.

Nigeria is on the list of countries with poor/worst ease of doing business and it has been on the list for a longtime and it isn't leaving it soon. Do you know why it makes that list? It's because this no system or structure put in place for business owners. Any Tom, Dick or Harry can claim to be a task force and take money from business owners, and this cycle continues as more of them will come thereby ruining the business.

Constructive criticism at its peak. I doff my hat for you
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Gerrard59(m): 9:27pm On Jan 11, 2021
planetx:
I am sorry but anyone earnng 1.2 a month and quit to relocate to Canada is a very big fool and is suffering from a colonized mindset.

Well, maybe you should relocate to Nigeria to take up the job, Is it not good enough?
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Gerrard59(m): 9:29pm On Jan 11, 2021
ednut1:
you lie. Most of those going to canada are high earners. But sanity is key. I save times 5 of what i did in Nigeria and i work for same company and do same job. So find another thing talk. I know people on 800k 900k still going to canada. Nigeria is a time bomb waiting to explode

You no dey tire to say the bold...I can imagine how you would react once this bomb explodes. grin
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Nicoswit(m): 9:39pm On Jan 11, 2021
Focusmind:


Well, the visa policy during our time was tough then. The conservative government of David Cameron in 2009 made it extremely difficult for foreign students to secure a well paying job to apply for permanent leave to stay in the UK. I actually got full time job with NHS in St. Andrews but my gross income was lower than the minimum £25k then that would have qualified me.

Luckily, an investment bank in Nigeria came calling and I boarded the ship back home. So far, so good. No regret yet.
Ok thanks
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by privaldo: 10:10pm On Jan 11, 2021
LadyPortable:
Constructive criticism at its peak. I doff my hat for you

This is highly appreciated.

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