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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Nobody: 4:11pm On Jan 14, 2021
I don't get grin When did nairaland become Quora or Reddit Honestly I only come across these sort of intelligent questions on those platforms.

Kudos to some guys here..So many geniuses everywhere. Justice has been done to the question really.

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:14pm On Jan 14, 2021
I think I have noticed where the confusion is coming from.

When it comes to multiplications, the discussion should start from the product and not the factors.

For example,
You want to produce dresses for girls in a class.

How many dresses do you need to Produce?

This is when the factors are considered.

50 girls and 2 dresses each.

That becomes 50 X 2 = 100 dresses.


If there are no girls to produce dresses, even if you want to produce 2 each, you can't Produce any, which is zero.

0 X 2 = 0.

Finally even if there are 50 girls but they are not going to collect any, how many will he Produce, none, zero.

50 X 0 = 0


BobFischer, Dtruthspeaker, teepain, mu2sa2, adanny02, koning, STINOS, iWise
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by pquaver(m): 4:14pm On Jan 14, 2021
TheGoodJoe:

Abuses does not give you credence or rep.
The fact is that Buhari was pushed a lot

Even the military rule he made a mess of was handed to him on a platter. Other people carried out the coup. When it was over, he was luckily the one selected to rule. Not earned.

You can abuse from today until tomorrow but the truth won't change. tongue

Your problem is inconsistency.. Tomorrow you will call him dictator and coup plotter on this same platform. There is something people see in him that is rare. That is why they push him. Why have they not pushed you?
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:19pm On Jan 14, 2021
pquaver:


Your problem is inconsistency.. Tomorrow you will call him dictator and coup plotter on this same platform. There is something people see in him that is rare. That is why they push him. Why have they not pushed you?

I have never called Buhari a coup plotter. Never.

The facts hurt. I know.

See bomb. Good for him. All I an saying is the fact. He achieved much because he was pushed. Not because he was spectacular.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Gabbriell: 4:21pm On Jan 14, 2021
Stubborn82:


Am not talking about mathematics here, am concerned about what led to the question of op.

Multiplication might be your interest, but for me, is the disruptive thinking.

The disruptive thinking is what bring new idea, every modern business need a position of entrepreneurs just like the way we have the position for HR, GM, MD, CEO. That is the position that really matter to bring about improving productivity and gaining competitive advantage in the market place.

Multiplication is basic maths (primary level). It's everybody's interest. This kind of disruptive thinking without basic maths is nothing but ignorance.

I understand your point sha and what you said about disruptive thinking is true.

I REST MY CASE
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:25pm On Jan 14, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
I think I have noticed where the confusion is coming from.

When it comes to multiplications, the discussion should start from the product and not the factors.

BobFischer, Dtruthspeaker, teepain, mu2sa2, adanny02, koning, STINOS, iWise

And this is where you are making the mistake for you are running smack into the Solid Wall of Law of the Beginnings.

When you read you begin with A,B,C, when you count you begin with 1,2,3.

We work with Somethings not nothings.Thus, it is The Law that Something Causes Something and Nothing can not do anything.

This is the Law of the Multiplication, for you Must have Something to Multiply. A person shall be deemed insane if he is seen working with "Nothings"!

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Blisteringbeast: 4:27pm On Jan 14, 2021
eddynaira125:
This are mathematical laws that u should obey,


U can't ask God y thou shall not kill



2*3= lll lll. Three in two places

0*3 =. Means 3 in zero places

That's is y we arrive there as our final ans
grammatical imbalance ....... Rather....use .. these are .... instead of.. this are ... mathematical laws
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by oluwafemiabioye(f): 4:27pm On Jan 14, 2021
BobFischer:

mind you 0 * 3 and 3 * 0 are two different statement.
0 (nothing) * 3 (something) = 0 (nothing)

3 (something) * 0 (nothing) = 0 (nothing).
why isnt it 3 * 0 = 3 0 * 3 = 0

Simply from left and right cancellation law.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:31pm On Jan 14, 2021
oluwafemiabioye:


Simply from left and right cancellation law.

This is where "0" x .... any number = .... is the Only Exception to The Law.

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Stanleyq: 4:32pm On Jan 14, 2021
BobFischer:
Why is any any number multiply by zero is equal to zero?

10 x 0 = 0
100 x 0 = 0
1000 x 0 = 0

If i have 100 oranges on a table and i multiply it by zero. Why do i suddenly have zero?

100 oranges X 0 = 0
1000 pears X 0 = 0


front page please
mathematicians in the house please gather.
10*0 means 10 oranges for how many times, zero times, which means u did nt bring any orange.

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by studentofTruth: 4:34pm On Jan 14, 2021
Gabbriell:


Multiplication is basic maths (primary level). It's everybody's interest. This kind of disruptive thinking without basic maths is nothing but ignorance.

I understand your point sha and what you said about disruptive thinking is true.

I REST MY CASE

Sure, multiplication is basic math, but that's not Op main question. The disruptive questions there is: Does the non-zero element in the multiplication cease to exist simply because it is multiplied by zero?

10 oranges x 0, does the 0 make the 10 oranges to disappear for the product to be 0?
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by adanny01(m): 4:42pm On Jan 14, 2021
teepain:
Basically, multiplication means to add a number of times.

For instance, 3x7 means 3 times 7. The 3 times 7 actually means 3 times (we add) 7.

Hence, 7x3 = 7 + 7 + 7 = 21.

In the same vein, 5 x 0, means 5 times we add 0 or add 0 in 5 places.

Hence, 5 x 0 = 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 0

Because of the commutative law of multiplication, which states that the order in which a set of numbers are multiplied does not affect their product,

5 x 0 = 0 x 5

Therefore, regardless of the order you will have zero as your answer if you multiplied any number by zero.

CC: TheGoodJoe, mu2sa2, adanny02

Sure

If I must reply,

3 x 7 means 3 times 7 or 3 by 7

This means we add 3 up to 7times

3+3+3+3+3+3+3=21

This is why the primary school multiplication table is arranged separately for each number

2x1=2 | 2
2x2=4 | 2+2
2x3=6 | 2+2+2
2x4=8 | 2+2+2+2

The question is how will you write

2x0 | ?

You can write

0x2 | 0+0

It is easier to explain 0x2 than 2x0

0x2 is twice of nothing
2x0 is nothing of two things

Take 2 real oranges in your hands for instance, in what scenario will you multiply them so that they turn to zero or nothing? I guess you can't except by magic.

That means the concept of zero or nothing is purely a figment of imagination and purely abstract.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by studentofTruth: 4:47pm On Jan 14, 2021
adanny01:


Sure

If I must reply,

3 x 7 means 3 times 7 or 3 by 7

This means we add 3 up to 7times

3+3+3+3+3+3+3=21

This is why the primary school multiplication table is arranged separately for each number

2x1=2 | 2
2x2=4 | 2+2
2x3=6 | 2+2+2
2x4=8 | 2+2+2+2

The question is how will you write

2x0 | ?

You can write

0x2 | 0+0

It is easier to explain 0x2 than 2x0

0x2 is twice of nothing
2x0 is nothing of two things

Take 2 real oranges in your hands for instance, in what scenario will you multiply them so that they turn to zero or nothing? I guess you can't except by magic.

That means the concept of zero or nothing is purely a figment of imagination and purely abstract.

It is not. See this explanation:

Back to your question, I will attempt to explain it using Einstein's general relativity theory. "Everything is relative to something else." In the case of anything multiplied by zero giving a product of zero, that "zero" product is relative to the action and not the entities multiplied — the product being zero doesn't mean that the non-zero entity vanished.

Let me explain with your oranges example:
First scenario (10x0 = 0): You have 10 oranges to give out. The action here is "to give out 10 oranges." To complete this action, there must be 10 oranges to give out and someone or something to give them to. In this case, you have the 10 oranges, but there's nobody/nothing to give the oranges. Relative to the intended action — giving out 10 oranges — you have given out zero oranges. However, it does not mean that the entity (10 oranges) vanished. In other words, the fact that the second entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the first entity (10 oranges) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Present) x Entity2(Absent) = Action(Absent)

Second scenario (0x10 = 0): You want to give out oranges to 10 persons. The action is "to give out oranges to 10 persons." To complete the action, you must have both entities — the oranges to give out and the 10 persons you will give the oranges. But you have no (zero) oranges, so the action cannot be carried out. Relative to the action — giving out oranges — you have done nothing (zero oranges given out). However, this doesn't mean that the 10 persons vanished because there were no oranges. In other words, the fact that the other entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the second entity (10 persons) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Absent) x Entity2(Present) = Action(Absent)


The point I'm making is that, using general relativity theory, the product of any multiplication with zero relative to the action and not the entities in the multiplication. The absence of any of the entities means that the action cannot be carried out, but the other entities don't cease to exit.

So, even in cases of 10x2x0 = 0, you can extend this logic to explain it.

An example of everyday application of this can be seen in anything. If there's no patient to be operated, the surgeon carries out no surgery, but it doesn't mean that the doctor or his surgical skills have vanished.
If a fund manager sees no good opportunity to invest in, no investment happens, but that doesn't mean that the fund manager or the cash has vanished. This is why cash is a component of any portfolio — it stays there waiting for the right opportunity to go make you more money.

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by adanny01(m): 4:59pm On Jan 14, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
I think I have noticed where the confusion is coming from.

When it comes to multiplications, the discussion should start from the product and not the factors.

For example,
You want to produce dresses for girls in a class.

How many dresses do you need to Produce?

This is when the factors are considered.

50 girls and 2 dresses each.

That becomes 50 X 2 = 100 dresses.


If there are no girls to produce dresses, even if you want to produce 2 each, you can't Produce any, which is zero.

0 X 2 = 0.

Finally even if there are 50 girls but they are not going to collect any, how many will he Produce, none, zero.

50 X 0 = 0


BobFischer, Dtruthspeaker, teepain, mu2sa2, adanny02, koning, STINOS, iWise

Totally agree

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by IMASTEX: 5:00pm On Jan 14, 2021
Worldliness:



Zero practically means nothing.

So nothing 1 time, nothing 2 times and nothing 1000 times 0r 1million times is still equal to nothing.

Eg) if i dont have 1 naira, if you ask me for 1 naira for 1 time or even 100 times, i still dont have any. that is it.
Nice explanation
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jan 14, 2021
Tohsynetita1:

Probably, you don't understand the meaning of multiplication, God says be fruitful and multiply. For multiplication to occur, it must be 2 entity that are not empty, Procreation is as a result of union of two people. Man with Nothing can not bring a child. The zero, in the expression will always affect the answer and make it to be nothing.

You nailed it.

This is quite logical.

Love it.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Nobody: 5:07pm On Jan 14, 2021
studentofTruth:


It is not. See this explanation:

Back to your question, I will attempt to explain it using Einstein's general relativity theory. "Everything is relative to something else." In the case of anything multiplied by zero giving a product of zero, that "zero" product is relative to the action and not the entities multiplied — the product being zero doesn't mean that the non-zero entity vanished.

Let me explain with your oranges example:
First scenario (10x0 = 0): You have 10 oranges to give out. The action here is "to give out 10 oranges." To complete this action, there must be 10 oranges to give out and someone or something to give them to. In this case, you have the 10 oranges, but there's nobody/nothing to give the oranges. Relative to the intended action — giving out 10 oranges — you have given out zero oranges. However, it does not mean that the entity (10 oranges) vanished. In other words, the fact that the second entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the first entity (10 oranges) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Present) x Entity2(Absent) = Action(Absent)

Second scenario (0x10 = 0): You want to give out oranges to 10 persons. The action is "to give out oranges to 10 persons." To complete the action, you must have both entities — the oranges to give out and the 10 persons you will give the oranges. But you have no (zero) oranges, so the action cannot be carried out. Relative to the action — giving out oranges — you have done nothing (zero oranges given out). However, this doesn't mean that the 10 persons vanished because there were no oranges. In other words, the fact that the other entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the second entity (10 persons) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Absent) x Entity2(Present) = Action(Absent)


The point I'm making is that, using general relativity theory, the product of any multiplication with zero relative to the action and not the entities in the multiplication. The absence of any of the entities means that the action cannot be carried out, but the other entities don't cease to exit.

So, even in cases of 10x2x0 = 0, you can extend this logic to explain it.

An example of everyday application of this can be seen in anything. If there's no patient to be operated, the surgeon carries out no surgery, but it doesn't mean that the doctor or his surgical skills have vanished.
If a fund manager sees no good opportunity to invest in, no investment happens, but that doesn't mean that the fund manager or the cash has vanished. This is why cash is a component of any portfolio — it stays there waiting for the right opportunity to go make you more money.

Some atewo foe dis niqqa.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by adanny01(m): 5:09pm On Jan 14, 2021
studentofTruth:


It is not. See this explanation:

Back to your question, I will attempt to explain it using Einstein's general relativity theory. "Everything is relative to something else." In the case of anything multiplied by zero giving a product of zero, that "zero" product is relative to the action and not the entities multiplied — the product being zero doesn't mean that the non-zero entity vanished.

Let me explain with your oranges example:
First scenario (10x0 = 0): You have 10 oranges to give out. The action here is "to give out 10 oranges." To complete this action, there must be 10 oranges to give out and someone or something to give them to. In this case, you have the 10 oranges, but there's nobody/nothing to give the oranges. Relative to the intended action — giving out 10 oranges — you have given out zero oranges. However, it does not mean that the entity (10 oranges) vanished. In other words, the fact that the second entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the first entity (10 oranges) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Present) x Entity2(Absent) = Action(Absent)

Second scenario (0x10 = 0): You want to give out oranges to 10 persons. The action is "to give out oranges to 10 persons." To complete the action, you must have both entities — the oranges to give out and the 10 persons you will give the oranges. But you have no (zero) oranges, so the action cannot be carried out. Relative to the action — giving out oranges — you have done nothing (zero oranges given out). However, this doesn't mean that the 10 persons vanished because there were no oranges. In other words, the fact that the other entity needed to complete the action is not there (value: 0) doesn't mean that the second entity (10 persons) has vanished. It only means that the action cannot be carried out (value: 0).

To put it as an equation:

Entity1(Absent) x Entity2(Present) = Action(Absent)


The point I'm making is that, using general relativity theory, the product of any multiplication with zero relative to the action and not the entities in the multiplication. The absence of any of the entities means that the action cannot be carried out, but the other entities don't cease to exit.

So, even in cases of 10x2x0 = 0, you can extend this logic to explain it.

An example of everyday application of this can be seen in anything. If there's no patient to be operated, the surgeon carries out no surgery, but it doesn't mean that the doctor or his surgical skills have vanished.
If a fund manager sees no good opportunity to invest in, no investment happens, but that doesn't mean that the fund manager or the cash has vanished. This is why cash is a component of any portfolio — it stays there waiting for the right opportunity to go make you more money.

I see no difference between you and I.

The second bolded means you can't give 10 oranges to no one in reality.

A surgeon can't operate on no one

A fund manager cannot invest on nothing

If 5 surgeons did 10 surgeries, they all did 50 surgeries
5x10=50

But if 5 did nothing we have no surgery. The action (surgery) didn't happen

5x0=0

Can we say a surgery happened?
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by ibuildstuff(m): 5:18pm On Jan 14, 2021
BobFischer:


mind you
0 * 3 and
3 * 0 are two different statement.

0 (nothing) * 3 (something) = 0 (nothing)


3 (something) * 0 (nothing) = 0 (nothing).

why isnt it
3 * 0 = 3
0 * 3 = 0
If u have 3 something n u multiply it by nothing. It means u are trying to increase 3 something by nothing. Hence 3 something will not increase, hence nothing will happen.
When u multiply u are trying to get the results of what u multiply as the answer, the results if multiplying something by nothing is nothing.

So u can see why zero will always be the answer.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Emaxwell(m): 5:19pm On Jan 14, 2021
proxitaly:
Buhari (something) x Buhari brain (empty or nothing) = nothing
That is why even 1000 tenures of Buhari will leave Naija empty or even worse off. You grab?


You cannot make heaven with this explanation grin grin a whole GFCR grin
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Rhado: 5:20pm On Jan 14, 2021
smartty68:
0 * 10 oranges at hand = 10 oranges... Reasons being that the oranges won't mysteriously disappear from my hand...

Imagine multiplying the 6 luggage bags by 0 and yet the load from the luggage still on you...
Awon catch cruise gang grin
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by BlackFlamefromP: 5:21pm On Jan 14, 2021
Op, don't confuse yourself. It is IMPOSSIBLE to multiply tangible, physical things by zero! To multiply anything by zero simply means that thing never existed and doesn't exist.

Example, if you have 12 oranges in 1 basket (that is 12*1) that will give you 12 oranges. If you have 12 oranges in 3 baskets you have 36 oranges (12*3 or 3*12 - is the same).

Now if you have 12 oranges in 0 basket what that simply means is that there is no basket anywhere where you have 12 oranges meaning there is no 12 oranges anywhere, hence, you have 0 orange (12*0 = 0)

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Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by tonykel1(m): 5:21pm On Jan 14, 2021
Any quantity multiplied by Zero implies that the said quantity was imaginary and not real. So, You cannot get something real and tangible from imagination (an entity that never existed).
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by studentofTruth: 5:22pm On Jan 14, 2021
adanny01:


I see no difference between you and I.

The second bolded means you can't give 10 oranges to noone in reality

That's what gives it the zero value. Action carried out is 0. But the oranges don't cease to exist


In the case of the surgeon, the fact that the action didn't happen gives that action a zero value (no action).
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Nwaelohim: 5:23pm On Jan 14, 2021
The inhabitants of this world is running in programming, we simply conform to what the society accept as normal not because is normal, for example what is one? What ever you say one is right now is what you are pattern to believe.

Like in religion, when you use logical reasoning religion will never make sense to you ,
So we are simulations in a programmed world.

Jettison your logic if you don't what to be insulted by conformed humans.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by ibuildstuff(m): 5:24pm On Jan 14, 2021
BobFischer:


This translate to zero 0 (if i dont have 1 naira) * 1 or * 100 = 0 (i still dont have any)

NOW THIS

(You have) 100 * 0 (nothing) = 0 (nothing)
translate to you have 100 and i ask zero time(simply i dont ask) and then you loose your 100

so how do you explain this?
losing you 100 when you do nothing
Nope, u did not loose anything, u still have ur 100, n u loose nothing.
So that nothing u loose is regarded as the zero.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by ibuildstuff(m): 5:29pm On Jan 14, 2021
Nwaelohim:
The inhabitants of this world is running in programming, we simply conform to what the society accept as normal not because is normal, for example what is one? What ever you say one is right now is what you are pattern to believe.

Like in religion, when you use logical reasoning religion will never make sense to you ,
So we are simulations in a programmed world.

Jettison your logic if you don't what to be insulted by conformed humans.
I don't quite agree with this.
Anything multiply by zero is equal to zero, is not something impose by society, it's part of the mathematical law governing this Earth. Without it, this earth will probably be something else. It's not just something society agreed upon.

In engineering, physics, chemistry, these laws must be obey for things to work.
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by 77up(m): 5:34pm On Jan 14, 2021
paulolee:
asked my maths for economics lecturer this question when he was taking us matrix during year1 and the whole class burst into laughter amd the prof sent me.out of his class..
I gat go beg the man with a bottle of wine and 2k recharge card, the man still deduct 5 marks from me for taking his class for a ride just because of this same logical question..
dnt jus know why our uni lecturers do feel like demi gods..
He knows that your question is logical and actually make sense to ask but I guess he feel insecure or ashame with the way others laughed it off.



Some lecturers go miss heaven road actually grin
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by studentofTruth: 5:35pm On Jan 14, 2021
ibuildstuff:

Nope, u did not loose anything, u still have ur 100, n u loose nothing.
So that nothing u loose is regarded as the zero.

Not really.

It's that nothing (0) he does that explains the 0! His 100 oranges are still intact waiting for the right time to be used!
Re: Why Is Any Number Multiplied By Zero Equals To Zero? by Jacksparrow7(m): 5:36pm On Jan 14, 2021
Zero = nothing. When you give something to nothing, all become nothing

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