excanny:


What's the meaning of Korame in Edo?


I've never even seen an Edo word that starts with K before.

Do you expect we had a written Benin dictionnary in the period of time in which the paper was written ?

"What is the meaning in your language" is an old semi-illiterate talking point. The fact you people keep repeating this talking point tells a lot about you.

excanny:


What's the meaning of Korame in Edo?


I've never even seen an Edo word that starts with K before.

For your info, these letters are european, we don't have letters, we only started writing our languages as we knew them long after this paper was made, and we used european letters.

nocomment2:


Do you expect we had a written Benin dictionnary in the period of time in which the paper was written ?

"What is the meaning in your language" is an old semi-illiterate talking point. The fact you people kaot about you.

Oga, Curamo na Portuguese origin. So you honestly think these white men that were in a hurried to strip their conquered territories of their origin will give a new name to a colonized city and retain an existing African name? Think well.

excanny:


Oga, Curamo na Portuguese origin. So you honestly think these white men that were in a hurried to strip their conquered territories of their origin will give a new name to a colonized city and retain an existing African name? Think well.

The paper clearly states: "Benin people call it Korame" !
What the hell are you talking about ? And the city wasn't colonized. What world do you live in ?

nocomment2:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996358_pascaertvandebocht___donckerhendrikbtv1b8595583b_jpeg_jpeg0b8aa298edd165b48d14015ef4de8a56

Well the first eye-witnesses to the region witnessed Lagos being part of Benin empire. Proven.

I always knew you to be a dullard. You never disappoint.

When does the appearance of the word “Benin” on a map become an evidence that Benin allegedly conquered Lagos? How old are you?

Going by your rusty brain, we must examine the map embedded below and then make the following conclusions:

(1) That “Guinea” was once an Empire.

(2) That “Guinea” once conquered the W/African forest & coast from Senegal to Cameroon.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996390_b10a434b13284f7783994e24af0a942d_jpeg_jpegc4289361561a0d8715407a492bb5aeea

Isn’t it??

I strongly think dictionaries should really be updated to reflect your full legal name and your photograph as the latest definition of the word “dullard”.

I am coming to disgrace you fully in the nearest time. Watch out!

nocomment2:


The paper clearly states: "Benin people call it Korame" !
What the hell are you talking about ?

This is why I'm doubting the accuracy of the paper cos the Benin clearly can never give a city a name of European origin.

FYI, I'm not Yoruba. I'm just a critical thinker

nocomment2:
has anybody noticed that Edo and the japanese language share a lot of common words ?

Notice that the word "Oba" is also a japanese word.

Guys like you who are speaking truth and fact about history are the reason I'm still hanging around on Nairaland. It feels good to have people like you on this forum; I have learned a lot from you guys.. Those pathological liars won't change it's who they are.

Sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos
1890

Also Confirming the Lander Brother's 17 th Century report that Oyo had ruled over Benin

excanny:

This is why I'm doubting the accuracy of the paper cos the Benin clearly can never give a city a name of European origin.

Once again the name is not a european name.
And the paper was written hundreds of years ago by eyewitnesses.
Also the paper is backed by a lot of precolonial maps drawn by other people across several centuries.

So what in hell is your point ?

The fact is that you hate the truth and would always find an excuse to deny it. But I will give you one thing: you have shown yourself to be a little bit smarter than most your fellow yoruba whom are living in a completely alternate reality in which logics and truth do not exist.

But you need to do the extra work and accept facts and logics, right now you are being fanatical and dogmatic.

nocomment2:

Once again the name is not a european name.
And the paper was written hundreds of years ago by eyewitnesses.
Also the paper is backed by a lot of precolonial maps drawn by other people across several centuries.

So what in hell in your point ?

The fact is that you hate the truth and would always find an excuse to deny it. But I will give you one thing: you have shown yourself to be a little bit smarter than most your fellow yoruba whom are living in a completely alternate reality in which logics and truth do not exist.

But you need to do the extra work and accept facts and logics, right now you are being fanatical and dogmatic.

Provide evidence that it is African.

nocomment2:
The paper clearly states: "Benin people call it Korame" !
What the hell are you talking about ? And the city wasn't colonized. What world do you live in ?

You fraudulent bald head, the book (not paper) does not imply that the Binis named it as Korame.

The book instead says:

“••• Benin people refer to it by the name Korame [which is] recognizably the Curamo of the old Portuguese accounts •••”

So, “Korame” is the old Portuguese “Curamo”. “Korame” is not an Edo word, you fraud.

Cc: excanny, Christistruth00
——————

excanny:

FYI, I'm not Yoruba.

why should I care about your ethnicity ?

excanny:


Provide evidence that it is African.

The paper says so !

nocomment2:

The paper says so !

You’re a fraud the book never said that.

The book says the precise opposite. I just exposed you above. And I copied you @excanny.

BornRicch:


Guys like you who are speaking truth and fact about history are the reason I'm still hanging around on Nairaland. It feels good to have people like you on this forum; I have learned a lot from you guys.. Those pathological liars won't change it's who they are.

I am still trying to understand what these revisionists stand to gain by constantly telling lies.
I got interested in Benin history when I walked by a precolonial globe in the french national library and I saw the name Benin on it. then my curiosity did the rest. History is a beautiful thing, I don't see why some people are hell bent in telling lies rather than discovering and sharing true history.

Moreover, the book continues to show that the word “Eko” which has now flowed into the Edo lexicon (from their contact with Lagos) actually comes from the Dutch language.

It reads:

“••• Benin people refer to it by the name Korame [which is] recognizably the Curamo of the old Portuguese accounts, just as Eko represents the Dutch hydrographers’ Ichoo.”

I am about to expose every single fraud you’ve posted on this thread.

You will deactivate your account as usual just as I always force you to when the shame becomes too heavy. I will be back.


Cc: Ideadoctor, Balogunodua, excanny.

Also Cc-ing the Edo boy, @BornRicch. Lol.

Yebosola:



Nothing serious, he is talking about Lagos island ONLY, not Lagos as a whole, get your facts right.

What facts?. Am I the op. Oga shift jare

Christistruth00:



For the one thousandth time Oba of Lagos himself telling you at 5.45 Minutes "Benin are not the owners of Lagos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno


Why are some people coveting Lagos morning evening and Night time, in their dreams when asleep and when they are wide awake like this?

Fake News cannot make Lagos Your own Lagos is YORUBALAND no amount of wailing or weeping can change that fact.

Lagos is God's gift to Yoruba just as Onitsha is God's Gift to Igbos

Get over it

Do you really think I will believe that Oba Eleko without a crown?

TAO11:
You’re a fraud the book never said that.

The book says the precise opposite. I just exposed you above. And I copied you @excanny.

TAO11 why do they keep trying to drag Lagos with Yoruba ?

The Case is well beyond Contention !

Not a Single Oba or Chief in Lagos speaks Edo or bears even a single Edo name!

It is even Edo's that are bearing Yoruba names!

Imagine Yoruba trying to drag Accra with the Ga because Alaafin once ruled the Land

Oba of Lagos was even a Babaloja he had no land

TAO11:
Moreover, the book continues to show that the word “Eko” which has now flowed into the Edo lexicon comes from the Dutch language. It reads:

“••• Benin people refer to it by the name Korame [which is] recognizably the Curamo of the old Portuguese accounts, just as Eko represents the Dutch hydrographers’ Ichoo.”

I am about to expose every single fraud you’ve posted on this thread.

You will deactivate your account as usual just as I always force you to when the shame becomes too heavy. I will be back.


Cc: Ideadoctor, Balogunodua, excanny.

Also Cc-ing the Edo boy, @BornRicch. Lol.

Look, you lack comprehension and this is not the first time I am telling you this.
The paper doesn't say in any way that the word Curamo is a portuguese word. It says that Benin has named the land Korame and that you can recognise the Curamo from previous portuguese mappings of the land ! indeed the portuguese had been there before and had already noted how the Benin people called the land ! The author of the paper writes the name he hears the Benin people call the land and he recognises the ressemblance with the name he already saw in portuguese mappings of the land !

All this is common sense, but you are incredibly dum.b

Once again the translation in full:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

Christistruth00:


TAO11 why do they keep trying to drag Lagos with Yoruba ?

The Case is well beyond Contention !

Not a Single Oba or Chief in Lagos speaks Edo or bears even a single Edo name!

Direct answer to your question is:

It so happens everywhere in the world that every “little people” with “grandeur delusions” must lay false claims to everyone else’s property.

It’s almost a Law!

The paper clearly says the land belongs to Benin whom have named it Korame. It doesn't get clearer than that.

forgiveness:


You mean Ewuare and the likes were forged?

I know Obantala was the oba in Ile ife before Oduduwa arrived and displaced him.

How come you acknowledged Oduduwa existence but you disagreed on Oranmiyam's existence?

I don't believe in Oduduwa existence, Oduduwa was a mere idol worship in ife and never lived as a human being

But that is not concern me am not Yoruba

nocomment2:
The paper clearly says the land belongs to Benin whom have named it Korame. It doesn't get clearer than that.

Read this.

Sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos
1890

Christistruth00:


Read this.

Sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos
1890

How is it relevant mr liar whom I caught lying earlier.
Also I don't consider texts when the source is not provided.

gregyboy:



I don't believe in Oduduwa existence, Oduduwa was a mere idol worship in ife and never lived as a human being

But that is not concern me am not Yoruba

Who born your Father Oba of Benin?

Christistruth00:


Who born your Father Oba of Benin?

The previous Oba of Benin.
Now who is the father of your priest oni of ife ?

nocomment2:


I am still trying to understand what these revisionists stand to gain by constantly telling lies.
I got interested in Benin history when I walked by a precolonial globe in the french national library and I saw the name Benin on it. then my curiosity did the rest. History is a beautiful thing, I don't see why some people are hell bent in telling lies rather than discovering and sharing true history.

It suite there egos that's why they won't change. They get hurt whenever the name Benin is mentioned because it's like a nightmare to them, a minor tribe constantly debating and debunking their claims. That hurts, man. What's your thoughts about the Edos and Japanese having some words in common?

nocomment2:


How is it relevant mr liar whom I caught lying earlier.

you were the one lying that is why your lies are being pounded to dust

No be Ijebu that still own Lekki and Eastern Lagos till today ?

Or do you think it belongs to Benin

Tell Oba of Benin to sell you a plot of Land there
and tell the Ijebu to sell it to you

Get back to us with the results

Christistruth00:


Who born your Father Oba of Benin?

See question nor b e papa


Oya na who born d papa wwn born your papa papa papa papa


You tell me

Nonsense you worn claim edo monarch as Yoruba oloshi

nocomment2:


Look, you lack comprehension and this is not the first time I am telling you this.
The paper doesn't say in any way that the word Curamo is a portuguese word. It says that Benin has named the land Korame and that you can recognise the Curamo from previous portuguese mappings of the land ! indeed the portuguese had been there before and had already noted how the Benin people called the land ! The author of the paper writes the name he hears the Benin people call the land and he recognises the ressemblance with the name he already saw in portuguese mappings of the land !

All this is common sense, but you are incredibly dum.b

Once again the transmation in full:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

Guy, you finished work here. Kudos.

I like the way you help people understand your point. Not by shouting or raising Gorilla dusts in order to confuse everyone for the sake of winning argument.

nocomment2:
[s]Look, you lack comprehension and this is not the first time I am telling you this.
The paper doesn't say in any way that the word Curamo is a portuguese word. It says that Benin calls the land Korame and that you can recognise the Curamo from previous portuguese mappings of the land ! indeed the portuguese had been there before and had already noted how the Benin people called the land ! The author of the paper writes the name he hears the Benin people call the land and he recognises the ressemblance with the name he already saw in portuguese mappings of the land !

All this is common sense, but you are incredibly dum.b[/s]

Whenever you’re about to engage me, always have it in mind that you’re about to face someone with superior intelligence. So, don’t bother with your dumb tricks which you apply with naive folks.

Now to disgracing you on this:

(1) Where does the book say that the Portuguese “Curamo” was based on Benin language?

I guess you pulled that out from your anus as usual.

(2) Where does the book say that the Portuguese met Binis in Lagos?

You also pullled that out from your anus as usual.

(3) Instead, the book makes it clear it is the Benins’ “Korame” which is based on the old Portuguese “Curamo”.

(4) Moreover, the same book makes it clear that, the native name is “Ahoni”, ”Awani”, ”Ahoy”

— obviously in their foreign rendition — but clearly reminiscent of the name of the indigenous people “Awori”.

——————
Listen up bald head (aka @nocomment2 ), I will rubbish and disgrace you. Desist from lies.

Cc: Christistruth00, excanny.