Abohboy:


West Africans are not barbaric stop with this nonsense we had a lot greater empires the. East Africa ever did and our empires developed without Arabic or European input unlike the greatest empires in east Africa. West Africa has a greater and more developed history. East Africans if anything were a lot more barbaric except the Ethiopians, Sudanese and Somalis but Kenya, Tanzania etc. They were barbaric no question. At least some of them the buganda people of modern day Uganda were highly educated on modern anatomy and were able to carry out successful c sections before much of Europe could.

Take it easy, holmes.

Abohboy:


Many you have consistently mentioned one also you haven’t provided evidence British missionaries is not evidence because they were angry at Benin for stopping trade with them which is why they labeled them as cannibals, murderers, savages, etc shall I go on

What?

Abohboy:


I don’t want to blame the failings of my people on the whitey but you cannot lie thst the whitey stalled our development, and used religion as a tool to keep us in mental servitude and in top of that European explorers at the time documented how much little crime, robbery, murder etc. We’re going on at the time not only in Benin kingdom but also in the Asante kingdom as well as Oyo empire.

Maybe it did maybe it didn't but I don't care about what ifs.....only facts!! and the fact is most advancements came to Africa thanks to the West

Some African societies had low crime and murder......just like there were African societies were the opposite was true! just like in Europe

jl115:
It was mentioned by Benin scripture not by the British........also there is physical evidence of human sacrifice

No such things as Benin scriptures was presented by the British no single artefact in Benin shows human sacrifice also the evidence said most were executed criminals. And 41 bodies over an over 400 year period for criminals ain’t that bad. I don’t believe in the human sacrifice stuff because most customs were represented in their artefacts. Find me the Benin scriptures you speak of first.

jl115:
Maybe it did maybe it didn't but I don't care about what ifs.....only facts!! and the fact is most advancements came to Africa thanks to the West

Some African societies had low crime and murder......just like there were African societies were the opposite was true! just like in Europe

jl115 am not that good in history so please i beg,tell me alittle bit about your people the boers..where did they come from coz definitely they don't look black..were they hunters or gathers or did they get lost an landed in the south tip of Africa..
waiting...

mtisTheQubit:


Yes there was slavery in the coastal areas of east Africa but can't compare with the scale of the trans-Atlantic one...By the way the slave traders did not venture a inland ( Kenya ) because of the fear of the Maasais...

but lets talk about the west african one which to my view was really really twisted

When the British extended their rule to south-eastern Nigeria in the late 19th Century and early 20th Century, they began to enforce abolition through military action.

But by using force rather than persuasion, many local people may not have understood that abolition was about the dignity of humankind and not a mere change in economic policy that affected demand and supply.

"We think this trade must go on," one local king in Bonny infamously said in the 19th Century.That is the verdict of our oracle and our priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by God."

We cant blame all the sh*.t which was going only to white folks

And guess what he was a fucking christian but yes some Nigerians were I support of it and were fools

jl115:
Maybe it did maybe it didn't but I don't care about what ifs.....only facts!! and the fact is most advancements came to Africa thanks to the West

Some African societies had low crime and murder......just like there were African societies were the opposite was true! just like in Europe

Which major modern European societies had low crime and murder like at similar time periods to Benin empire not the Greeks

Abohboy:


And guess what he was a fucking christian but yes some Nigerians were I support of it and were fools

no the dude wasn't a Christian..i know y've something against ths folks but guy wasn't one of them..actually he was talking about african oracles and priests..

mtisTheQubit:



no the dude wasn't a Christian..i know y've something against ths folks but guy wasn't one of them..actually he was talking about african oracles and priests..

Nope they didn’t use the word ordination in any African society and if they did it must have been a very minor one.

Abohboy:


Nope they didn’t use the word ordination in any African society and if they did it must have been a very minor one.

An why do you think he was a christian an not a muslim or an animist ?

mtisTheQubit:


An why do you think he was a christian an not a muslim or an animist ?

There were no Muslims in south Nigeria they were restricted to the northern parts he could have been an animist but if he was he wouldn’t have said ordained by god. He would have attributed it to natural occurrences or to multiple gods

Abohboy:


There were no Muslims in south Nigeria they were restricted to the northern parts he could have been an animist but if he was he wouldn’t have said ordained by god. He would have attributed it to natural occurrences or to multiple gods

Yorubas came in contact with Islam around the 14th century during the reign of Mansa Kankan Musa of the Mali Empire..Are the Yorubas not from southwest an are they not half Christians an half Muslims if I may ask

mtisTheQubit:


Yorubas came in contact with Islam around the 14th century during the reign of Mansa Kankan Musa of the Mali Empire..Are the Yorubas not from southwest an are they not half Christians an half Muslims if I may ask

They didn’t actively practice Islam until traditional religions were demonised yorubas were 100% ifa until their religions were demonised but yes today it is like thst but Bonny is in the south east and is an isolated island off the coast of rivers state. It was not Muslim and neither was the surrounding areas so he couldn’t have been a Muslim he was either a Christian or part of traditional belief and I believe it is the latter

Abohboy:


Which major modern European societies had low crime and murder like at similar time periods to Benin empire not the Greeks

why cant i choose the Greeks

but anyway Constantinople was probably the most impressive city in European history, probably even the world

mtisTheQubit:


jl115 am not that good in history so please i beg,tell me alittle bit about your people the boers..where did they come from coz definitely they don't look black..were they hunters or gathers or did they get lost an landed in the south tip of Africa..
waiting...

Boer history is pretty well documented bru just google it.

Abohboy:


No such things as Benin scriptures was presented by the British no single artefact in Benin shows human sacrifice also the evidence said most were executed criminals. And 41 bodies over an over 400 year period for criminals ain’t that bad. I don’t believe in the human sacrifice stuff because most customs were represented in their artefacts. Find me the Benin scriptures you speak of first.

- Uhm they literally found a sacrificial pit!!

jl115:
All races are barbaric or have barbaric history.........that's human nature

Yes i agree.So what is the use of pointing fingers?
Anyway,can you talk more about human sacrifices in Benin

jl115:
SMH!! scripture doesn't necessary mean written words.......

Show me these Benin scriptures then, you keep on referring to them but can’t provide any evidence to their existence. Show me the Benin scriptures

jl115:
What?

Not sure what happened there what I was saying is that Benin stopped trading with England fro about 30-40 years and England became angry by how they had stopped trade, so they started sending reporters to Benin to demonise the place and make it look barbaric and evil all in the name of imperialism no such reports of human sacrifice had come before then

jl115:
why cant i choose the Greeks

but anyway Constantinople was probably the most impressive city in European history, probably even the world

Do Turkish people consider themselves European. I’m not really sure if you can claim turkey as European history but

jl115:

- Uhm they literally found a sacrificial pit!!

But somehow they couldn’t provide any photo evidence of this pit or where exactly it was located physically, for some reason they just looked at the bodies and left it there but somehow without taking any pictures or writing down any measurements they came to the conclusion that there were 41 female women yep that totally sounds believable and is very accurate and not just pure speculation.

jl115:

- Uhm they literally found a sacrificial pit!!

Show me the Benin scriptures and stop dodging

Shma2020:
you're posting long distance runners while I'm busy posting the likes of you. A normal ghanian on a grand scheme of the whole village.
I told you Ghanaians are subhumans and you're running banku mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mit24njBTss


But how did development topic all suddenly changed into appearance? Or you people just crave to be atleast like one runner in Kenya? Cos you're too short to be recognized.

Nigga Please

Abohboy:


Show me the Benin scriptures and stop dodging

https://academic.oup.com/afraf/article-abstract/84/334/53/23191?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Abohboy:


But somehow they couldn’t provide any photo evidence of this pit or where exactly it was located physically, for some reason they just looked at the bodies and left it there but somehow without taking any pictures or writing down any measurements they came to the conclusion that there were 41 female women yep that totally sounds believable and is very accurate and not just pure speculation.

show me photographic evidence of Benin's street lamps

Abohboy:


Do Turkish people consider themselves European. I’m not really sure if you can claim turkey as European history but

Constantinople was a European City........look it up

Abohboy:


Not sure what happened there what I was saying is that Benin stopped trading with England fro about 30-40 years and England became angry by how they had stopped trade, so they started sending reporters to Benin to demonise the place and make it look barbaric and evil all in the name of imperialism no such reports of human sacrifice had come before then

source?

Kazikazi:
Yes i agree.So what is the use of pointing fingers?
Anyway,can you talk more about human sacrifices in Benin

Stop pointing fingers at Benin. Tanzania needs to eradicate the killing of albinos for human rituals.

jl115:
When Thomas Edison invented the light bulb some African societies had yet to discover the wheel...........so what's your point?

Thomas Edison couldn't have done that without Latimer.

mtisTheQubit:


hi boss ..can you explain ths..
"Anthony Johnson, held as an indentured servant in 1621, he earned his freedom after several years, and was granted land by the colony"
To me it don't make sense to call him the first slave owner while he himself was in a way a slave

Here are some of the Original European Catholics. Strap yourself to your seat.
The Black Irish myth states they descend from sailors of the Spanish Armada who washed up on their shores 400 + yrs ago. Usual BS- they were ALWAYS THERE!
The pic is copyrighted.

[url][https://www.google.com/amp/s/twistedlimbsandcrookedbranches.com/2014/02/24/the-black-irish-who-are-we/amp/url]

This book explains the transportation of Irish slaves to Virginia.
The 2 pix are transported Irish slaves in Barbados. You can still the African features. Btw, there are MANY Irish place names in the Caribbean.

Five years residence in Jamaica impressed Father Williams with the fact that
the Jamaica Negroes were unlike all other Negro types that he had seen. Particularly
among those of Gold Coast origin he found claims and remnants of
Judaism. His resultant studies led to his Hebrewisms of West Africa (1930).
But another outstanding fact was the large number of Negroes with pure Irish
names. These negroes could not be explained as descendants of slaves owned by
early Irish colonists, for no such names appear among the land-owners in the survey
of 1670. So Father Williams turns to English records of the crushing of the Irish,
by Cromwell, with consequent deportations of large numbers of Irish as bondmen
or bondmaids to the West Indies-especially Barbados, where such names as
Cavan, Collins, Connolly, Donovan, Duffey, Dunn, Grogan, Kelly, McCann,
McSwiney, McDermott, Moriarity, O’Brien, O’Neal, O’Halloran, Walsh, abound
in the old cemeteries. Father Williams gives pictures of Jamaica negro children
named Collins, Walsh, McKeon, McDermott, Burke, Mackey, McCormack,
Kennedy. His bibliography on the deportations and barbarities includes 175
sources.

Btw, the Jamaican patois is rooted in Irish!

Kazikazi:
Yes i agree.So what is the use of pointing fingers?
Anyway,can you talk more about human sacrifices in Benin

Because u asked me to elaborate:

Kazikazi:
Can you elaborate more on this shithole story about human sacrifices

jl115:
Yes some of them were!!

Evidence that black Berbers took up slaves against their wills.