GreatResearcher:
Paul said you are not longer under the law "commandment".

Who is paul to change Gods laws?

Does it mean i can fucck another mans wife and wont be punished ?

Mecka:
my god is not a beggar

I never said HE is

MoneyTrees:
Na only this niggar sabi the correct way of running God's kingdom
You're not doing well
Very mediocre reasoning
You can never be a real nigarr if you keep thinking this way.
Now someone is saving you from PREMIUM TEARS after giving dangerous seeds you won't hear

let him save you and himself.i dont need to be a real nigarr as you said.i prefer to be a servant thats does what Gods word said, and not what one fool in a fool paradise said because he wants to be heard.so take the premium tear to him.am doing very very well.this is Gods word that i practise and it works for me.malachi 3vs10-1110 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe,” says the Lord Almighty.this is what God said in his word thats what i do.not what one mumu thinks in his parlor.i they read my bible oga.if i dont bring my tithe into Gods house na club house abi na your house i go bring it.that freeze of a guy is not a wise man

No one force you to donate money in church, i believe the same human being raise funds to pornstars of big brother naija.

sapphiere:
Aliko Dangote, a Nigerian, has been named the Africa’s richest man for the tenth consecutive year, according to the 2021 Forbes’ Africa Billionaires List released on Friday January 22.

The leader of free nation church Daddy Freeze reacting to the list tells Nigerians that before they give out their January salary to a pastor, they should think carefully about Dangote being the richest man in Africa for tenth consecutive year without paying tithes, giving first fruit or sowing dangerous seeds, WonderTV media reports.

In his words:



https://www.instagram.com/p/CKYixQxhU10/?hl=en

There is righteous money that addeth no sorrow and unrighteous mammon that's powered by sorrow. Freeze should know that simple fact.

Good question. But on the issue of tithes i believe Reno Omokri has done some justice to it.
For me personally i dont pay tithes, why? well my parents never paid tithes, no one in our parish that i know of paid tithes, there was never anything like tithe collection in my parish and even the other catholic churches that we do attend from time to time. I actually came to know about tithing during my service year. You can imagine how shocked i was that people give a part of their salary as tithes, even after offering.

Alexaonfleek:
Mr freeze that don't sow seeds where is his name in Forbes list?

BusinessCity:
People should read the Bible themselves and get to understand the intent of God's heart as well as the letter.


I believe no seed sown towards Kingdom growth is without Heavenly reward, however while I maintain this believe, I don't subscribe to first fruits paid annually.

First Fruits offering is the seed that opens the ground/business/productivity like a child giving the first salary he or she earns to the parents. Making it an annual event as skewed and project as we've seen of recent memories is to only excite one's feelings to milk people of their resources



Before Christianity came, every one gives their first salary to their parents as a seed of thankfulness for their parenting them. This is the reflection of what first fruit offering is, but people chose to replace parents there with their pastors


Pastors too are unduly taking advantage.


Don't bother to criticise me because you want to fill your stomach with other people's blood, sweat and means of livelihood. I'm a minister of the Gospel as well and have mentored hundreds. But guess what, I work


First Fruits should be directed lyrics dedicated to God in a ( sober some way) that will provoke God's blessings and sustain ones livelihood. This giving is not putting in offering basket ideology we continue to perpetuate...

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Given to ones parents. Your parents are also God's representative on earth as much as your pastors.


Your parent command higher spiritual right to receive this blessings, cry upon receiving it and command transference of blessings to your life. Thus is the history and essence of first fruits. Don't let hungry ministers deceive you




If you're a minister and want to take me up on this discussion, I am willing to educate you. But first check the scriptures about what God instructed Moses and Joshua about first fruits. When you're done with that come back and I'll open your spiritual eyes clearer and brighter with first fruits throughout scriptures where none of this occurrences were carried out like annual pagan rites




Pastors and ministers allow parents too eat of the works of their hands. Many of you have turn yourselves to demigods and devils and go as far as killing the sheep because of the greed and last for material things. Remember in the end it's not the tithes and offerings that matters to God as He's the owner of the earth and all in it and the cattle over the thousand hills.



Careful exacting resources from people. Let the people also bless the souls that brought them into this existence.


I'm an elder in the kingdom to atleast more than the top 80% of ministers of my generation. So I can correct you and Heaven will understand. We didn't start this journey yesterday. No. We did not.



Build the sheep up and when they're built, when you don't recall, what is bigger than first fruits is what they will do to you. Let's stop draining life out of God's children. Please and please




Scriptural references :


Cain and Abel - Abel gave the fruits that opened the earth. No other records of him doing that before His demise


2. God instructed Joshua when they entered Cannan, this is God Himself doing the talking, He said when you begin to produce, make sure the first fruits of your harvest ( First farming season year deem first productive season ) is set aside as offering because the fruits of the land wasn't yet purified for them to take personally. And that after this the earth would yield it's increase massively to them



3. Jesus waded into a scenario. Check the new testament. Jesus said to certain youths who pretended giving to parents as giving to God and mixed it up. They said when they give their thier parents, they gave grudgingly and said it's what we give to you is for God. Jesus however chided them maintaining parents must be honoured given their due regards separate from. Ministerial regards. In this case what's parental should be treated as parental. And what's for the church be giving to church.



If the first fruit is for a certain pastor, when does the parent who does the whole labor get the place of honour. Mind you hardly is there any pastor in the world world that will be there on a steady daily occasion and not give up on the child until maturity and success is attained.



I rest my case.



Give it to your parents

Speak for yourself as not everyone give their parent or pastor first fruit

Freezer must be a big fool to think that they don't pay tithes.

Here in the west, we get updates on the finances of the church and it's expenditure, but in Nigeria everything is shrouded in secrecy.

Freezer must be a big fool to think that they don't pay tithes. Don't forget Dangote is a Muslim, he does pay tithes

dejol88:
Here in the west, we get updates on the finances of the church and it's expenditure, but in Nigeria everything is shrouded in secrecy.

Same here in Nigeria especially the orthodox churches

By their fruit you shall know them.
So what's the correlation between tithes and wealth? There is unrighteous mammon and clean money.

edoairways:

Same here in Nigeria especially the orthodox churches

It will be difficult for me to attend Pentecostal church.Infact I don't see it happening!

sonmvayina:


Who is paul to change Gods laws?

Does it mean i can fucck another mans wife and wont be punished ?

You probably do not understand what Apostle Paul meant, AND I WILL Explain to you. Every laws of God should be obeyed to the very last letters, If you break one of the laws, then you are guilty of breaking every single law. e.g Even though I do not sleep with a married woman but because i not tell truth when I was 6 years old, last week or last month ,I am guilty according to the laws. So therefore I have sinned and wages of sin is death no exception. So I am guilty whether people say I am good man or I go church or I give to the poor or I do not drink or smoke or steal or whatever.

Now What apostle Paul is trying to telling you and I was that Jesus Christ did not break any of the Laws and He never sinned . Christ died for us? Jesus Christ is the one who never broke the law He died for us. Romans 10: 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Just because Christ is the end of the law for righteousness does not give me the license to continue disobeying the Law or keep sinning. I should live my life to please God and to love God means that i should keep his commandment or law and if I can't or struggle to , I ask God to forgiveness in Christ and rely on Christ. No one is perfect

dejol88:

It will be difficult for me to attend Pentecostal church.Infact I don't see it happening!

Same here.

prciouschika:

Of all the names why laugh on mentioning Hushpuppy's name

The guy is now a BLESSED MEMORY that's why.

I don't like to weigh in on conversation like this as I find it absolutely ridiculous.. I've never seen any church that go out of their way "literally" to plead n beg members to pay tithe n first fruit,cos if one gives grudgingly, it's as good as he/she never even did (a futile effort).thus people should give if and when they want to give.(willingly).

If Mr freeze wasn't so fixated at the affluence n opulence of this men of God maybe he'd have found other better things that needs his "thoughts n ideas" maybe he'd have been a "dangote" by now..Maybe he wants men of God to be suffering or something I don't quite get it ..

Blasphemy against a prophet of God is not taken lightly.. Let's be guided.Live n let others live.shalom

Righteousness2:


My Brother, GOD Almighty owns the church. Anyone who misbehaves with the church funds is digging a Great grave for him and his/her Generation. It's a Natural curse!
So Many Have died for doing such.

Yours is to Give when you can! Not by Force or with a grudging heart.

The church is not the building but the people of God. Those who truly serve God.

So the first fruit should be shared among the members since they are the church if it must be collected.

We wey no get first fruit to pay nko.salary don already finish.God help us

theFilmtric:

lol
Delusion is very bad
WHAT OF YOU?
Why aren't you in the list?

theFilmtricsay

Well I didn't put myself on the list because I don't like to brag.the rich don't brag.ask Hushpuppy.

The essence of tithe and firstfruit offerings are;
(1) School fee and legal consultancy fee Galat6:6, Malac2:7,
(2) House rent, shop rent and ground rent for farming or mining use of land Psalm24:1, Malach1:14.
Those who go to school and pay school fees, pay legal consultancy fees, buy bible from the market so as to read (Isaiah34:16, Daniel10:21, Reve1:1-3), pay house rent and shop rent and ground rent and taxes levied by government; such people do not owe the true God tithe or first fruit! Ezek45:9-10, Isaiah3:14-15.
What such people owe the true God is freewill offering to a neighbour who seems to be in need: 'Is this not the fast that I YHWH have chosen? WHEN YOU SEE the naked that you clothe him and that you do not hide yourself from your own flesh (make yourself unaccessible to a fellow human who is on the look out for you because of a need for help) Isaiah58:6-7.

babaolofin:


I remember an incident that happened during Jonathan era, that must either be 2013 or 2014. A company at Lekki that is into Petroleum Downstream Sector where the Wife of the owner is a friend to Dame Patience Jonathan . Some members of staff belong to Church where first salary in a year is a must to open Heaven for the year. It was termed sacrificial giving.

Some senior members of staff gave their January salary as first fruit offering. Having exhausted money for Xmas and New Year celebration, they became broke. Mid February, they asked me to quote for the supply of telecom products which I did. They said I should write Invoice for 10 pcs but brought 5 pcs first which I did. To my surprise, out of the 5 pieces, they took only 2pcs making me to return 3pcs. They collected the money (cash) taking the cash for 8pcs and giving me only the cash for 2pcs. They said they are broke having used their salary as first fruit offering and they have bills to settle before February Salary. I was very depressed because I didn't make any gain.

First fruit offering push them to fraud to survive.

ThankGod you scaled through. I wonder what will come over me to work a full month and dedicate the salary to a pastor.

How much is tithe for God's sake?.... how much.?
As for first fruits, me I will give., for everything God is providing for me, I will freely give him my first fruits and pay my tithes.

specialmati:
the freezy guy is not a wise man. he knows nothing about Gods kingdom and how its run. Read Malachi 3:10-11 God said something there. Thinking you are giving to pastors makes you look like a fool.that guy na confirm zombie if i may say.there is a principle that governs wealth,if you understand it as a christian you will wave bye bye to poverty.is dangote a christian for him to use him as an example for christian believe and teaching. its a foolish thing to use a Muslim as an example to Christian teaching. i know that freez of a guy is not a christian

But God is not in Nigeria.

Freeze pls shut up. I pay my first fruit last year at MFM, and God make me a millionaire the same year, when others are grieving cos of economic impact of covid-19, I took care of both my nuclear and extended family members completely. Financially 2020 is the best year for me since I was born. I'm packing my envelope already to give my first fruit offering this year, cos I don't want to slow down the rate God is blessing me. Listen to daddy freeze at your own peril

obey which GOD? your righteous living is more important to God not your money. when Jesus wanted money in the bible he commanded the fish to vomit money. don't be fool

Righteousness2:
I will rather Obey GOD than men...

All we have is given to us by GOD.

The Names He mentioned Must be Dangerous Givers to the cause of GOD and Humanity.
Don't be Suprised that Dangote, a Muslim will be a dangerous Giver to Churches, crusades, etc

Nobody becomes Wealthy and Blessed without being a Giver. It's a Principle given by the Creator and Owner of the Heavens and the Earth.

The Principle of wealth is in seed time and Harvest.
They that Sow in Tears will reap in Joy.

Don't give because you want to double your money! Give because you Love GOD! Give because you wanna be a blessing to people.

When you are Giving your fund for GOD'S Cause, don't see it as giving to pastor or bishop or priest. See it as Giving to GOD

When sowing your seed, whether First fruit, tithe, offering, Giving, etc Ensure it is a Good ground. Not Every Place or Person is a good Ground. Some Persons are under GOD'S Curse. When such person or place gets hold of your resources you may begin to experience what you don't understand.

Tithe is Biblical. It is one tenth of your income, profit, increase etc. Tithe does not guarantee you Eternal Life in Heaven. A Genuie Relationship with JESUS is what gives us access to Eternal Life.
Having Said that, a Believer who deliberately refuses to give his tithe is a Robber. Such an act could hinder such a Person from Eternal Life.

Eternity is a Personal Solo Matter! Nobody will stand or speak for you. If you allow Ungodly men to confuse you, you are on your own!

PervertProphet:


If only you avoided skipping your history classes. You would have know Africans got to know of Christianity even before the Europeans in the 1st and early 2nd Century especially the North African sides before they lost.

I know you're referring to Ethiopia or maybe Egyptian Horus of SUN (Ra) worship. Well, let me tell you that the versions and brands of Christianity known to East African African Ethiopia or Kemetic Egypt IS NOT AN NEVER THE SAME WITH THE EUROPEAN BRAND.

Story...those that will donate will donate. You can cry all you want. Those using their money to patronize prostitutes are there preach to them. Those using the money to fund Boko Haram are there preach to them. Those that are funding child trafficking are there please preach to them. Remove the beam in your eyes before attempting to remove the speck in ours.

nowhere:

But God is not in Nigeria.

so if his not in Nigeria were do you think He is.and why are you telling me that his not in Nigeria abi God na human being like us.

zakkxx:
obey which GOD? your righteous living is more important to God not your money. when Jesus wanted money in the bible he commanded the fish to vomit money. don't be fool

hahaha all this una reasoning self.Jesus did that because the disciples at that time are only missionaries they dont work.what did you understand by righteousness living as you claim.you are the foolish one here because you lack understand quoting Jesus got money from fish.how many money have you gotten from fish so far.Gods kingdom have principal discover it and save yourself all this kind of unnecessary argument of weather to pay tithe offering,seed covenant and the rest.the people that obeys Gods word dont lack anything .you think the gospel is cheap and dont need money to run it but you need money.kingdom practises are foolish things to a lame man sorry