Tranquility4u:



I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.

Oga and and check your brain

dele1727:


I don't always agree with ishaq....but on this....
I agree absolutely...

A court has ruled in favour of hijab wearers
The only way the missionary schools can take is to appeal the judgement to as far as the supreme court

2, when Nyesom woke pronounced Rivers State a christian state .... christians were all hailing him
No noise was made....
Similar attitude should be adopted here

If u want ur daughter to wear Hijab u withdraw her nd take her to a Muslim school.

Tranquility4u:
The female Muslim students are the ones to wear the Hijab on their body, not their Christian schoolmates.

So why striping and denying them their fundamental and constitutional rights?

Afterall, Britain and the United States of America and many other countries more developed than this nation, allow the use of Hijab in their schools.

But the Christian extremists want to control even the way Muslims dress, so that Muslim students will be half-naked like them.

That will never happen!

Enough is enough!

People should learn to approach issuees objectively even when religion is involved.

1. Mission schools by their very definition are schools created for community service to bring people into the Christian fold. Their modus operandi is clear and exists even before independence. For MURIC to try to ascribe anything "colonial" to them is simply dishonest propaganda.

2. Around 1974 the Kwara State Government forcefully took over the mission schools under the pretext of "grant-aiding" them. Those who made that move are the creators of the current problem. Some of these mission schools were built inside their parent Church compounds. Trying to make them public schools where mosques would be required for Muslims to worship is bound to create tension and conflict that was easily avoidable.

Government is already stretched to the limit even in maintaining ordinary public schools, most of which lack good classrooms and amenities, much less adding mission schools to the fold.

The best solution for the long term is to return the schools to the missions and move students that can't continue to proper Public Schools. There is no way Government can mediate in the issue without being seen to favour one religion or the other.

Government always go beyond itself in meddling where it is not needed. In a secular State, Government has no business with religion; no business setting up Pilgrims Boards or sponsoring pilgrimages by any religion! And it is wrong for people to make it look like Nigeria is a two-religion State.

And for the insincere MURIC, if Wike declared Rivers as a Christian State, how many years earlier have some other Governors declared Zamfara and Kano States as Muslim State by virtue of introduction of Sharia? Those Governors were not violating the constitution also?

RisenPhoenix1:


Are the girls wearing hijab armed rebel groups? Who is not tolerating whom in this context?

The girls, their parents and the mumuric....they could have simply gone to other schools where their religious obligations are accepted. Is that simple for you for to understand?

Is St. Michaels Secondary school a muslim school to you? Chai na wah oh.

How will I go to Ansarudeen Secondary or islamiyyat secondary school and be complaining of not being allowed to practice my religious faith other than theirs....there is no rational behind that. Why on Earth will I complain tell me....

Every school has a school uniform, and you can't just wear whatever you like.

If you're a Muslim and must wear the Hijab, attend a school that allows Hijab as part of the optional uniform.

bareal:



The girls, their parents and the mumuric....they could have simply gone to other schools where their religious obligations are accepted. Is that simple for you for to understand?

Is St. Michaels Secondary school a muslim school to you? Chai na wah oh.

How will I go to Ansarudeen Secondary or islamiyyat secondary school and be complaining of not being allowed to practice my religious faith other than theirs....there is no rational behind that. Why on Earth will I complain tell me....

Just because they retained their names does not mean that they are missionary owned today; whether Christian, Muslim or pagan. As long as they are on government land and sponsored fully by tax payers' money, they belong to everybody. We live in a secular country where everybody is entitled to practise their faith, or lack thereof. Nobody should be forced to abandon their faith or practise another's before having access to a public institution funded by the government. It is really very easy to understand.

If the government changed all school names to numbers, would that reduce your confusion?

Running amok MURIC and Ishaq Akintola... Let them be sent to a concentration camp wt a psychiatrist in attendance....

That's always the problem of Muslims and this mumuric man; hypocrisy. You want to send your child to a Christian schoo but don't want to obey the Christian rules and regulations but in your Islamic schools, everybody obeys your wicked and devilish Islamic rules. What is really wrong with these Muslim terrorists?

oloyedewaris:

Yes as we have here too, but in this case it's a public school

if it is a public school den the management have no right to give dat order.

Cantonese:


May I ask who talks about oppression? Even science has rules or laws as they say.

If schools say no to Hijab then you either do not go there or do not take your children there, likewise Islamic schools.

What people are bickering about here was meaningless until the civilian government of 1979 came. No one knew the difference between Christian and Muslim schools until the Muslim governors in power then pretentiously took over schools.

How many of you know that the present site of the Lagos state university actually belonged to the Methodist boys high school, Lagos, which belonged to the Methodist church? That place was taken over by Lagos state under the late Chief Lateef Jakande after the because the governor in 1979. When they were looking for a site to establish LASU in 1984, that place which had been taken over from the Methodist church was used.

The religious, tribal and ethnic problems we confront today as a nation are self inflicted, especially from the politicians who want to get power and hold on to it perpetually. Religion has become a potent instrument in politics today. Nigerians need to realize the damage done daily to the psyche of the people by the political class.

The so-called rule does not make sense, is unconstitutional and apparently has no practical application, except to sideline Muslims. If Muslims state that it is a part of their faith, then withholding this right from them for no logical reason is only an attempt to control their behaviour. As long as said behaviour is not harmful to you or anyone else, you have no right to control it, under any constitutional law. If you can provide a logical or scientific reason as to why you think a Muslim girl wearing her headscarf in school is harmful; out with it, otherwise, stop fishing for foolish justifications. "It's the rule" is not a justification. It's a cop out. If the rule did not favour you, you would be the first to decry it.

As for the takeover, part of the reason for the takeover was to eliminate the religious bigotry and divisiveness that missionary schools were trying to engender in the host communities. You call for a perpetuation of the bigotry with one breath while you support it with another. The best way to eliminate bigotry is to let Christians wear what they want and let Muslims wear what they want. If no one is forced, no one will feel sidelined. If it's the "rule" to make someone feel sidelined, then the rule should be done away with. This is why we Africans are ever on the march backwards.

I swear, I am beginning to understand why Muslims get so angry sometimes.

MansoryMX:


You need to have your brain checked because you are the daft person here. Go and read again MUMURIC statement. He singled out 10 missionary school! Even it’s government funded missionary schools for CHRISTIAN. It has always been abi you wan deny almost all mosques built in the last 10yrs in the North are not of government fundings? So what exactly is your point because you are pointless. Missionary schools are Schools that teaches education and most especially the ways of Christianity. Muslims have their own schools that teaches Islam aside from education. Can CRS be taught in such Islamic institution? You are a bloody hypocrite and you need to change your evil ways! Don’t ever quote me again if you have nothing sensible to say!

There’s no use arguing with a fool. He only rages and scoffs, and tempers flare.
The godly pray for those who long to kill them.
A rebel shouts in anger; a wise man holds his temper in and cools it.

Proverbs 29: 9-11.

@ the bolded. Recognize your raging and scoffing here? How Christian of you.

Like I said, Christians are full of hate. Thank you for providing evidence.

AntiChristian:


I don't know MURIC and they do not represent me and all Muslims.


Muslims have schools and the Public schools are for the Public. A school can't be public and still be controlled by Churches!
And how does the Hijab hinder your life?


The owners of the school are subjected to the constitution of the FRN which supersede all laws even the school laws!

We are exercising our right as enshrined in the constitution! Do your religion and let me do mine! Hijab is part of mine so you can't remove it.

Those ones maim, kill and steal. Have you been maimed, killed or stolen from?

And why not collate tithe money and go to court?
Hypocrites!

I pay my tax regularly and those schools are run with tax payer's money. You'll now say my baby should remove her Hijab while going to the Public school funded with tax payer's money!

What do we call that?

Who bought the land for the schools?
Who built the buildings of the schools?
Who named the schools?

What was the agreement between the government and the proprietors of the school?

Documents signed showed that it was a Grant-Aid and NOT a takeover.


Now, you wish to deprive them of their foundermental human right of association. Every association has binding rules according to the aims and objectives of the association.

oloyedewaris:


You are a very big fool for calling me bandit because i'm saying the truth

Those ones are then when missionary schools are subsidized by govt, now missionary schools are government owned

Ok if i may ask you are these missionary schools still serving their purposes, IPOB fool

I guess you comprehension is low forbI did NOT call you bandit. I said, how then are you different from bandits? This is a question sir, not an abuse!

If you claim that the schools are subsidised by government, to whose advantage? Does the government pay rent? Do they pay any amount whatsoever to the account of the propietors? The answer is NO! So, what is being subsidised?

Your people are Thieves: why don't they go to their own Islamic schools?

Professor without brain go and build muslim school let them attend

aremuforlife:

Hijab has always been a cover up, it is their mode of dressing in middle east, it has nothing to do about your religion,.both Muslims and Christians used it.

mumu hijab as nothing to do with been holy is just a mode of dressing for every Muslim girl so try and seek more knowledge

ivolt:


You are missing the point.

This issue is simple. The government should either totally take over the schools
or stop giving grants to them.
That is how it is done in many countries.
The government will make rules and only give grants to schools that will follow them.
No need for fights or threats.

Personally, I see no problem with mixed school hijab but the Nigerian government seems to
hate good solutions.

The schools as far back as 2014 asked he government to stop funding them hat they can take care of themselves. They government did not heed. The Muslims not only want hijab, they even want to build mosques in these schools. That's crazy.

RisenPhoenix1:


The so-called rule does not make sense, is unconstitutional and apparently has no practical application, except to sideline Muslims. If Muslims state that it is a part of their faith, then withholding this right from them for no logical reason is only an attempt to control their behaviour. As long as said behaviour is not harmful to you or anyone else, you have no right to control it, under any constitutional law. If you can provide a logical or scientific reason as to why you think a Muslim girl wearing her headscarf in school is harmful; out with it, otherwise, stop fishing for foolish justifications. "It's the rule" is not a justification. It's a cop out. If the rule did not favour you, you would be the first to decry it.

As for the takeover, part of the reason for the takeover was to eliminate the religious bigotry and divisiveness that missionary schools were trying to engender in the host communities. You call for a perpetuation of the bigotry with one breath while you support it with another. The best way to eliminate bigotry is to let Christians wear what they want and let Muslims wear what they want. If no one is forced, no one will feel sidelined. If it's the "rule" to make someone feel sidelined, then the rule should be done away with. This is why we Africans are ever on the march backwards.

I swear, I am beginning to understand why Muslims get so angry sometimes.

You miss the point.

“The reason for takeover was to eliminate religious bigotry”. Where did you get that from? Who ever said that to you? For me it was not. It was an attempt to muzzle in the Christian schools, which had far a larger share of the sector, especially in Lagos. You may ask: why the missionary schools? There were too many private schools before the take over. The reason is that politics had come into play and politicians were playing the religious card.

If you carefully look through my previous comment you”ll find where I said that I attended a Christian school, where Muslims also attended. We did not know the difference in our faith as we all attended morning assembly and sang hymns. When our Muslim friends had Islamic things we all joined happily. The same happened in Islamic schools. Everyone was happy. Your question must be “where did the idea to take over missionary owned schools come from? You”ll be surprised to find out that a lot of our Muslim leaders, especially of the south, attended Christian schools and vice versa.

Lagos state many years ago had Jumratul Islamiyya, Muslim teachers training college, Gaskiyya Cardoso, etc. All those schools were attended by Christians. Infact in Gaskiyya Cardoso, all the girls dressed in hijabs and long gowns, all covered. It was a well known policy of the school. Christians who attended that school dressed in that manner happily. For selfish reasons, government took over and the rest became history.

Freedom to associate is enshrined in our constitution, but that does not give you the liberty to oppress me, not especially in my own house.

Why is it that it is only this Muric man who continuously whips up this religious sentiment? Have you ever heard of Barewa college? Do you know how many southern leaders who boast of attending that school? Does the school not have its own rules? Have you ever heard anyone complaining? Are there no Christians there? The Christians follow the rule and there is absolute peace. There are rules in place in northern Islamic schools and everyone adheres to them.

“Stop fishing for foolish justifications”. No one tries to justify what is wrong. You are just being overly sentimental and not addressing the matter realistically. This problem continues to linger in the south, especially the south west and must be addressed frontally.

The country is divided along various lines and that is the honest truth that we must all face. The solution once again is for government to restore the seized schools to their respective owners, who should be allowed to practice their faith and teach their students according to their beliefs.

Henrydonland:
why are they then bringing Christians into this.

if a school owner does not want a student to wear hijab then they go to the one who approves of it,no big deal

they are the ones creating a mountain out of a molehill

You also indirectly saying that if the indigene of the state does not want any school authority to ban use of hijab, the school owner should take the
school to a state where they are permitted to ban hijab.

Are we on the same page?

[quote author=MinCeteris post=99349846]

You also indirectly saying that if the indigene of the state does not want any school authority to ban use of hijab, the school owner should take the
school to a state where they are permitted to ban hijab.

Are we on the same page?[/quote

I mean that the parents should remove their children from the school if the school owner does not allow it .so we are not on the same page

jamiudinho:

mumu hijab as nothing to do with been holy is just a mode of dressing for every Muslim girl so try and seek more knowledge

Knowledge from who?
Your mumu sense did not translate my message to you. It is not a mode of dressing to Muslim girls but a dressing code to middle east women either Christians or muslims.

AntiChristian:



It is hard! The Public schools uses my tax to exist. I will arrest any teacher who even tries to remove my daughter's Hijab. Christian schools are not funded by Government with tax payer's money!

It's hypocrisy!

Public schools with Christian or Muslim backing have tenets they wish to uphold. Before enrolling children there, parents should use their brains and know what they are getting into.

I wonder why Christians in these places never seem to have this problem. Only Muslims in Oyo, Ogun, Ekiti etc. are always complaining about public schools like primary School and law school. Even the North doesn't have this issue.

I attended school with Muslims who never wore the hijab right up till we left, since it was not an Islamic school. There was never a day of protests. They knew what they were getting into. Everyone was okay.

Nowadays people are looking for how to be outraged over nothing. If you want religion, carry it to your religious school. Let public schools remain secular. You came for education, not to show holiness and religious dress code.

You’re talking about constitutional right. Dumb isn’t it? Could a Rhoda or Elizabeth go to a public Islam school and sight constitutional reasons for refusing to wear hijab?

As there exists Christian public schools also does Islamic private schools. Here in Ibadan for schools like Ansar u deen hijab has never been a problem because someone willing not to use hijab will never go.

Please, why should Khodijah go to a missionary school just to question their fair tenets?

BluntTheApostle:


These schools are public schools. They were once missionary schools until government took over. But their status as missionary schools were preserved. There are Christians in Ansaru Islam, but they don't force them to use hijabs. These are public schools. Why would you be infringing on other people's rights in a public school?

Grant-Aiding is not equivalent to take over. Is it?

BluntTheApostle:

St Anthony is the school I know very well. Catholicism and other forms of Christianity, as well as Islam used to coexist peacefully. Why would some teachers just decide to break that peaceful coexistence. Hijab has always been worn in that school. What is the problem now? You accuse Muslims of being intolerant when it is you Christians who should check yourselves.

When you are marginalized over what is rightfully yours, wouldn't you react and protest?

BluntTheApostle:


There are more Muslims than Christians in Kwara. Perhaps, more Muslims apply to these positions in all the missionary schools in Kwara.

No Sir!
Come to Ilorin and see churches in their thousands! There is no statistics to back the assertion up!

BluntTheApostle:

This is quite unfair. You admit that there are more Muslim principals and teachers. So, Muslims are largely responsible for the successes of Christian schools in Kwara.

No sir!
Intact the decline we have seen has been due to government occupation! Many Christians now send their children to the private mission schools as they are the best now in Ilorin.

BluntTheApostle:


What has shame got to do with this? Hijab is just a scarf. The Muslims are not asking for more than their hijabs.

It's just like saying that the rosary is just ordinary beads.

BluntTheApostle:


You whose behaviors are sanctioned, I am sure you already have a mansion in Heaven courtesy of your Godly behaviors.

There is actually not much difference between all of the Abrahamic religions. You are all judgmental, egoistic, intolerant, and violent.

While Jews and Muslims are more physically violent, Christians are the most emotionally violent.

How are Christians emotionally violent. Can I get a few examples?

Tranquility4u:



I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.

ARE U TRYING TO SAY CHILDREN OF BABALWO, ONIFA, OLOPELE, OLOYA, PRIEST, PASTOR, AND MORE SHOULD ALSO COME IN THEIR REGALIA (CLOTH)? a misionary school have a constitutional make up, so anyone can not obey, they should leave and go to Islmiyat School.......all na school

Cantonese:


You miss the point.

“The reason for takeover was to eliminate religious bigotry”. Where did you get that from? Who ever said that to you? For me it was not. It was an attempt to muzzle in the Christian schools, which had far a larger share of the sector, especially in Lagos. You may ask: why the missionary schools? There were too many private schools before the take over. The reason is that politics had come into play and politicians were playing the religious card.

If you carefully look through my previous comment you”ll find where I said that I attended a Christian school, where Muslims also attended. We did not know the difference in our faith as we all attended morning assembly and sang hymns. When our Muslim friends had Islamic things we all joined happily. The same happened in Islamic schools. Everyone was happy. Your question must be “where did the idea to take over missionary owned schools come from? You”ll be surprised to find out that a lot of our Muslim leaders, especially of the south, attended Christian schools and vice versa.

Lagos state many years ago had Jumratul Islamiyya, Muslim teachers training college, Gaskiyya Cardoso, etc. All those schools were attended by Christians. Infact in Gaskiyya Cardoso, all the girls dressed in hijabs and long gowns, all covered. It was a well known policy of the school. Christians who attended that school dressed in that manner happily. For selfish reasons, government took over and the rest became history.

Freedom to associate is enshrined in our constitution, but that does not give you the liberty to oppress me, not especially in my own house.

Why is it that it is only this Muric man who continuously whips up this religious sentiment? Have you ever heard of Barewa college? Do you know how many southern leaders who boast of attending that school? Does the school not have its own rules? Have you ever heard anyone complaining? Are there no Christians there? The Christians follow the rule and there is absolute peace. There are rules in place in northern Islamic schools and everyone adheres to them.

“Stop fishing for foolish justifications”. No one tries to justify what is wrong. You are just being overly sentimental and not addressing the matter realistically. This problem continues to linger in the south, especially the south west and must be addressed frontally.

The country is divided along various lines and that is the honest truth that we must all face. The solution once again is for government to restore the seized schools to their respective owners, who should be allowed to practice their faith and teach their students according to their beliefs.

If you like, explain from morning till night, religious bigots won't want to understand.

I went to school with Muslims who never wore the hijab. They never protested not wearing it. We knew they fasted, celebrated with them, and it was never an issue. They knew they were in a secular school.

Suddenly some people want to impose religious clothes and don't want to know if they are in religious schools or not. Why not attend a school of your religion and not a secular one, if you want to be religious?

This is like the law school incident which raised furor for nothing. Even the president's daughter, a Muslim from northern Nigeria, wore a wig without the hijab. Yet one woman from this same Oyo or Ekiti made it an issue. We all wonder where she is today, if she has entered Paradise for her pointless stubbornness. An occasion of a few hours of wig wearing on only one day turned into real physical war in the country, whipping up useless aggression.

It seems the rules were made for all of us, but some of us always feel they are more than those rules. Always looking for ways to claim they are sidelined, but will never talk about Saudi or hisbah.

shadeyinka:

I guess you comprehension is low forbI did NOT call you bandit. I said, how then are you different from bandits? This is a sir, not an abuse!

If you claim that the schools are subsidised by government, to whose advantage? Does the government pay rent? Do they pay any amount whatsoever to the account of the propietors? The answer is NO! So, what is being subsidised?

Your people are Thieves: why don't they go to their own Islamic schools?

Never ever compare me with bandit just because i'm not supporting you


Ok so what exactly is your point,

you said they don't pay any amount to the proprietors, if I may ask who are the proprietors

Tranquility4u:


Muslims are not the slaves of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). If your church has taught you the opposite of this position, you should know that you have been fed with trash.



You are all SLAVES of Paul who changed the True Teachings of Jesus and forced you to follow his own personal evil teachings.

Ignorance at its peak, evil teaching of peace you mean.

Also your Mohamed is a very smart man, after adopting Christianity and the Jewish religion, he turned the doctrine upside down and invaded tribes, took people as slaves then convinced them they are slaves of God who has put him in charge.

Abeg when is your daughter or sister going to clock 12
years of age so you can give her hand in marriage (this shouldn't sound weird cause your Mohamed is a pedophile rapist and a killer).

This old hag should be stripped off his PhD and professorial title. must the Muslims send their children to those schools? who is trying to force who when you come to My house and and you want to change my orders who is fighting who? for goodness sake history holds the record of who uses force to drag people to their so call religion. I for one do not encourage indecency. I stand with the truth. please anybody that doesn't like trouble should set his rules in his house and business. is it by force to patronize my products. must you buy my wares? go and set up your schools and set your rules their. as of schools being funded by government, almost all the activities of Islam is funded by the government the projects are littered everywhere fro the north to south and east to west. study and you will prove me right

molas02:

ARE U TRYING TO SAY CHILDREN OF BABALWO, ONIFA, OLOPELE, OLOYA, PRIEST, PASTOR, AND MORE SHOULD ALSO COME IN THEIR REGALIA (CLOTH)? a misionary school have a constitutional make up, so anyone can not obey, they should leave and go to Islmiyat School.......all na school

Yes so far they will wear the school uniform, socks, shoe and so on

You people will just be looking for silly excuses, these people just asked to cover their head, thats all

Henrydonland:
why are they then bringing Christians into this.

if a school owner does not want a student to wear hijab then they go to the one who approves of it,no big deal

they are the ones creating a mountain out of a molehill

Its a Govt School, Govt Pay their teachers, and built their structures

shadeyinka:

Who bought the land for the schools?
Who built the buildings of the schools?
Who named the schools?

What was the agreement between the government and the proprietors of the school?

Documents signed showed that it was a Grant-Aid and NOT a takeover.


Now, you wish to deprive them of their foundermental human right of association. Every association has binding rules according to the aims and objectives of the association.

You are just shouting grant-in-aid is different from take-over

If i may, if government stop support for those schools, what did you think will happen Rubbish

Just be twisting words because of hypocrisy

Ayomi90:

If u want ur daughter to wear Hijab u withdraw her nd take her to a Muslim school.

Because na your papa get the school abi