Christabeliciou:
What I heard now is that you will use a dollar account to make payment no more naira account that's why. Its about $184 that's like N70,000.00

yea thanks , I used my fiance card already , it was seamless tho , I paid for 2years dey deducted 379£ . My biometric is on Friday .thanks all

Nielbaba:
yea thanks , I used my fiance card already , it was seamless tho , I paid for 2years dey deducted 379£ . My biometric is on Friday .thanks all

You need to recheck what was charged, payment for 2years is in range of 520£ to 530£ officially for UKVI.

Dear all,
I applied for my niece to visit me and my family but she was refused. The reasons are funny and really i cannot understand what they wanted. I said she was coning to visit family and not tourism. I included some of the transfers i made to her for her upkeep and also a transfer to the school for her school fees to show that her school fees has been paid and she'sdefinitely going back to finish her studies. Am really sad because am all she's got as her mum my sister and her father are both late.

I thought if one is sponsoring another and listed the person as unemployment cos she's still a student, then its the sponsors record they look at but they are looking at her own financial situation and accomodation and i stated truthfully that when she's not in school, she stays at my late fathers house, a family house.

Please i need advise incase of reapplication which i don't plan to do anytime soon.

giselle237:

For UK visa application there is no shortcut, every money in your account must have origin with proof. Also they are not interested if u have millions in ur account, they just need to be sure of ur economic ties amongst other ties.
Pls what is the purpose of your travel to the UK? If it is for tourist, pls dnt apply now. There is no touristing going on in the UK at the moment . When covid handling and restrictions ease a bit, and u have also arranged your financials, then give it a try

Thanks so much for your time ...I actually wanted to apply for tourist visa..I will wait as suggested.Thanks once again...

Inviting someone of University age outside the main summer holidays is a red flag in my opinion.

It is probably more her age and no concrete ties to Nigeria which you have unfortunately stated inadvertently in your post here too...

Why would she return back to Nigeria after just 12 days visit.

If you are going to invite a family member for a visit - they have to be closer than your niece and not for just 12 days - what can be achieved in 12 days.

Also tourism was mentioned - no need to mention that during this present pandemic period...

Sorry!

It is not that straightforward as you having the money or accommodation to support your family member.

Applying for visit or tourist visa now is likely going to be refused. I mentioned this months ago

Instead of the Home office or UK government to say that they only want essential travellers coming in just like they say to their own people wanting to travel out... They are not advisng that on their Visa website (are they?); Instead they are suckering people into applying for visas when the majority will be rejected one way or the other.

If they did not reject on finances, they will go for ties or doubts as to whether the person will return to Nigeria or no tourism taking place or any other reason or reasons.

The best way to get your niece is to wait for her to finish her university education and then sponsor her as a student - wink wink; if you know, you know

deebaby05:
Dear all,
I applied for my niece to visit me and my family but she was refused. The reasons are funny and really i cannot understand what they wanted. I said she was coning to visit family and not tourism. I included some of the transfers i made to her for her upkeep and also a transfer to the school for her school fees to show that her school fees has been paid and she'sdefinitely going back to finish her studies. Am really sad because am all she's got as her mum my sister and her father are both late.

I thought if one is sponsoring another and listed the person as unemployment cos she's still a student, then its the sponsors record they look at but they are looking at her own financial situation and accomodation and i stated truthfully that when she's not in school, she stays at my late fathers house, a family house.

Please i need advise incase of reapplication which i don't plan to do anytime soon.

Sorry about this.
Her parents could have been her ties but sadly they are late but this does not stop anything.
What year is she in now?
And how long is her course in Nigeria for?
If it is a 4 year course, apply for her to come during the Christmas holidays of the 4 year course... like before her final papers.
Basically hang on the fact that she has studied for almost 4 years and is about to bag her degree and will certainly not throwaway those years to come and become an illegal in the Uk.
Pending this time, build up facts of financials been from you to her.
Say monthly u send her upkeep money for all months of the years till whenever u want to apply for d visa.
Also who pays her sch fees?
U can also do same for her fees. Like have paper eveidnece of this payment and anyothe rpayment that connects her school.

Then she should get introduction letter from her school stating when she started the course, how long she has been in d schl, what course she is in and when she is graduting.
They shud also state that she has no academic or financial deficiencies.
Also have her attach all her school reports, id card, schl payments and every and anythin that shows this school has been on for years. Basically let them know that her graduation is in few weeks or perhaps few months and she can’t throwaway all these hardwork for nothing..
this is her tie to Nigeria, bleed it very well..

If u have pictures together before her parents died or after, add all this to ur case

She can also get a part time job as a student.. or if u have a company or friend who has a company acct that can be payin her monthly for part time work this will also show her commitment to Nigeria. Did her parents leave any property in her name? House or car or anything at all? Provide this.. this shows she will come back to Nigeria, it ties her to the country.

If you can even come back to Nigeria before her next application, do come back and take lots of pictures with her. Indicate this in d application, that due to the denial u had to fly in to see her because she is your family and family rights are essential.
Also write a cover letter letting the home office know all these things and that u have no reason to want to keep her in the country illegally. Tht u feel bad and responsible and just want her to come for a holiday to take off stress from school and other things.
U have to come from all angles.

pls wher can i have my corona virus test donenfor the purpose of teaveling?

523$ equal 379 £ at that moment , I used pounds card

pheemeehan:


You need to recheck what was charged, payment for 2years is in range of 520£ to 530£ officially for UKVI.

@chrisj2

Thanks for your input. We actually submitted a letter from her school to show she's still in school and fees already paid. Plans was for her come during the Easter period hence why we put arrival and departure datrs around then.

I never mentioned tourism but to visit family in the invitation letter. We have ppl that are in the university and got visas, its just unfortunate she was refused.

Please i want to know which other family member is closer than a niece? This is a girl am paying her fees and monthly upkeep. The reason i kept it to 12 days was because she will have to go back to school and i thought staying more will be a red flag if we've said she's in school, don't you think?

I applied for her with the knowledge that being in school will help as she'll be graduating soon and we might not get a letter from the school. we've been apart for more than 3 years now, she has always lived with me with both mom and dad late.


Anyway, i believe it is what it is with UK and their visas.

chrisj2:
Inviting someone of University age outside the main summer holidays is a red flag in my opinion.

It is probably more her age and no concrete ties to Nigeria which you have unfortunately stated inadvertently in your post here too...

Why would she return back to Nigeria after just 12 days visit.

If you are going to invite a family member for a visit - they have to be closer than your niece and not for just 12 days - what can be achieved in 12 days.

Also tourism was mentioned - no need to mention that during this present pandemic period...

Sorry!

It is not that straightforward as you having the money or accommodation to support your family member.

Applying for visit or tourist visa now is likely going to be refused. I mentioned this months ago

Thanks chrisj2,

This is actually my next plan. (wink wink � ) I know ooo, she actually was missing her cousins and e no easy to carry myself and 4 kids go naija, thats big gbese ooo with ILR around the corner so i felt it will be cheaper for one person to come rather than 5 ppl going.



quote author=chrisj2 post=99539522]Instead of the Home office or UK government to say that they only want essential travellers coming in just like they say to their own people wanting to travel out... They are not advisng that on their Visa website (are they?); Instead they are suckering people into applying for visas when the majority will be rejected one way or the other.

If they did not reject on finances, they will go for ties or doubts as to whether the person will return to Nigeria or no tourism taking place or any other reason or reasons.

The best way to get your niece is to wait for her to finish her university education and then sponsor her as a student - wink wink; if you know, you know[/quote]

Nielbaba:
yea thanks , I used my fiance card already , it was seamless tho , I paid for 2years dey deducted 379£ . My biometric is on Friday .thanks all

What payment option did you use and did you make use of dollar card?

I am sorry to say that your niece is not an immediate close member of your family. Your siblings and your parents and children if any abroad comes first.

I think you are looking at it from a Nigerian or African point of view... Your niece could be from your father side or mother side and they could be numerous...

The fact that you are responsible for this person in the African way does not change the ties to you and the way the ECO look at things...

Just imagine: you have said this person is being looked after by yourself and parents are no longer but you want to spend more than she needs in a year for a 12 days visit.

Being in University or even 1 month to the exam is not a strong enough ties on its own. Giving the state of Nigerian universities and the constant strikes, it is not unreasonable that someone can still japa from the country. We have had students come on sports or cultural visits that refused to return or even Olympians.

Save the money you want to spend now and take good care of her in Nigeria and invite her when she finished her university.

Easter hols travelling for 12 days is not essential travel for her or the UK - again, sorry! Times are different

I am sorry to say that your niece is not an immediate close member of your family. Your siblings and your parents and children if any abroad comes first.

I think you are looking at it from a Nigerian or African point of view... Your niece could be from your father side or mother side and they could be numerous...

The fact that you are responsible for this person in the African way does not change the ties to you and the way the ECO look at things...

Just imagine: you have said this person is being looked after by yourself and parents are no longer but you want to spend more than she needs in a year for a 12 days visit.

Being in University or even 1 month to the exam is not a strong enough ties on its own. Given the state of Nigerian universities and the constant strikes, it is not unreasonable that someone can still japa from the country. We have had students come on sports or cultural visits that refused to return or even Olympians.

Save the money you want to spend now and take good care of her in Nigeria and invite her when she finished her university.

Easter hols travelling for 12 days is not essential travel for her or the UK - again, sorry! Times are different now.

*Was there no tourism and visit in the rejection letter

@ giselle237, thanks a mil.

Really it's after some thing has happened then we start regretting. I made a mistake saying the truth that her parents are late but i didn't want anything to come back and bite me so i said the truth.

She's in final year (year 4)and will be having her convocation in November and i plan to be there, she'll graduate before Christmas and her final exams will be in July 2021, what can be done in this case? I will definitely rake loads of pictures.

I told her we'll likely reapply in 6 months time so we can build up the monthly upkeep i send to her and yes i pay her school fees, couldn't get previous receipts from my Stanbic app, could only get some from GT and others kept saying couldn't retrieve details but i tried to generate my statements and it worked so that will come handy next. I pay her fees direct to the school account.

We actually submitted a detailed letter from the school with her school ID card and i submitted pictures from when she was in primary and secondary school together but i guess it's the no ties back home but am the only tie she really has.

I'll see about the job aspect that is if we don't go the student visa route cos i don't want a 2nd refusal record ontop visit jare

Please do you have any input concerning what they mean about the accommodation?

Thanks giselle, i really appreciate your extensive write up.

giselle237:

Sorry about this.
Her parents could have been her ties but sadly they are late but this does not stop anything.
What year is she in now?
And how long is her course in Nigeria for?
If it is a 4 year course, apply for her to come during the Christmas holidays of the 4 year course... like before her final papers.
Basically hang on the fact that she has studied for almost 4 years and is about to bag her degree and will certainly not throwaway those years to come and become an illegal in the Uk.
Pending this time, build up facts of financials been from you to her.
Say monthly u send her upkeep money for all months of the years till whenever u want to apply for d visa.
Also who pays her sch fees?
U can also do same for her fees. Like have paper eveidnece of this payment and anyothe rpayment that connects her school.

Then she should get introduction letter from her school stating when she started the course, how long she has been in d schl, what course she is in and when she is graduting.
They shud also state that she has no academic or financial deficiencies.
Also have her attach all her school reports, id card, schl payments and every and anythin that shows this school has been on for years. Basically let them know that her graduation is in few weeks or perhaps few months and she can’t throwaway all these hardwork for nothing..
this is her tie to Nigeria, bleed it very well..

If u have pictures together before her parents died or after, add all this to ur case

She can also get a part time job as a student.. or if u have a company or friend who has a company acct that can be payin her monthly for part time work this will also show her commitment to Nigeria. Did her parents leave any property in her name? House or car or anything at all? Provide this.. this shows she will come back to Nigeria, it ties her to the country.

If you can even come back to Nigeria before her next application, do come back and take lots of pictures with her. Indicate this in d application, that due to the denial u had to fly in to see her because she is your family and family rights are essential.
Also write a cover letter letting the home office know all these things and that u have no reason to want to keep her in the country illegally. Tht u feel bad and responsible and just want her to come for a holiday to take off stress from school and other things.
U have to come from all angles.

@chrisj2,

You are right and correct concerning all the points you listed below. how many years i be for UK nau, African mentality still dey my head ooo lol, still trying to shed off some.

And they wouldn't know private university from the government and also read my mind to know i won't pay such amount for her to japa while still a student , I'll rather wait for her to finish and use the remaining visa validity to japa lol but ppl have done that before and worse sef , i even know somebody that came thru school to UK and spent well over 3.5M to agent and didn't even step foot in the school,

Ahhh chrisj2, i only budgeted £750 for her trip ooooo, e never reach her 1 year upkeep, e remain small sha if we use oanda.lol. No be our naira wey no get shame and value?

I think getting a visit visa after university without a job earning 6 figures will be harder, don't you think?

Thanks chrisj2, you are appreciated.

chrisj2:
I am sorry to say that your niece is not an immediate close member of your family. Your siblings and your parents and children if any abroad comes first.

I think you are looking at it from a Nigerian or African point of view... Your niece could be from your father side or mother side and they could be numerous...

The fact that you are responsible for this person in the African way does not change the ties to you and the way the ECO look at things...

Just imagine: you have said this person is being looked after by yourself and parents are no longer but you want to spend more than she needs in a year for a 12 days visit.

Being in University or even 1 month to the exam is not a strong enough ties on its own. Giving the state of Nigerian universities and the constant strikes, it is not unreasonable that someone can still japa from the country. We have had students come on sports or cultural visits that refused to return or even Olympians.

Save the money you want to spend now and take good care of her in Nigeria and invite her when she finished her university.

Easter hols travelling for 12 days is not essential travel for her or the UK - again, sorry! Times are different now.

*Was there no tourism and visit in the rejection letter

It will all come down to whether they believe she will come back to.nigeria or not?

Also the money transfers to her is showing a very short period.

There are a few reasons for the rejection but overall, visit/tourism this Easter (for those that have applied) is just helping the chancellor plug some financial holes due to Covid

£750 is that not more than #480000 that she said is her upkeep. She said she spends #40,000 per month.

Visa fees, covid tests, flights and what she will spend in 12 days is going to be more than £750...

I am just saying...

I still don't think 12 days visit is good to put in a visa application unless you are super rich...

* I don't have a solution to the issue except the university route... But I get pained seeing people wasting money on visa applications...

At this point I am sure the OP has heard. You are basically now downing your thoughts and points a bit much. .
Sorry Sir.

Hello guys, my mum received an email for passport collection. Its not been exactly 15 wrking days and she’s been denied twice in the past. I have been refereshing spam but didn’t see any refusal letter.... does this mean the visa was granted?? Or could she still see a refusal letter when she picks up her passport?

deebaby05:
@ giselle237, Please do you have any input concerning what they mean about the accommodation?
Thanks giselle, i really appreciate your extensive write up.

they understand you guys claim that she is living at her late grandfather’s house but there is no proof to this. Pls did u submit any documents showing or confirming where she resides.. it could be anything from utility bills, phone bills, cable tv, certificate of occupancy.. anything at all

Irenenwaka:
Hello guys, my mum received an email for passport collection. Its not been exactly 15 wrking days and she’s been denied twice in the past. I have been refereshing spam but didn’t see any refusal letter.... does this mean the visa was granted?? Or could she still see a refusal letter when she picks up her passport?

keep refreshing spam dear. If nothing comes, then she has it. Fingers crossed for you and the incoming baby!!!

giselle237:
keep refreshing spam dear. If nothing comes, then she has it. Fingers crossed for you and the incoming baby!!!

Loool This message was very needful, thanks alot Giselle. You are indeed very humane

You are welcomed. Pls did you wait for your visa to expire before applying for 2yrs? Can one apply for 2yrs a month to when your visa is to expire. Or you wait for the 6months to expire before applying thanks[ author=Nielbaba post=99525923]yea thanks , I used my fiance card already , it was seamless tho , I paid for 2years dey deducted 379£ . My biometric is on Friday .thanks all [/quote]

giselle237:
keep refreshing spam dear. If nothing comes, then she has it. Fingers crossed for you and the incoming baby!!!

By the way Giselle i heard some people even always get refusal letter 2 weeks after passport collection

Irenenwaka:


By the way Giselle i heard some people even always get refusal letter 2 weeks after passport collection

well by tomorrow, she would pick up the passport? Yes? We will know then. It is well.

People like good news and favourable opinions but it does not surpass common sense and reality...

Christabeliciou:
You are welcomed. Pls did you wait for your visa to expire before applying for 2yrs? Can one apply for 2yrs a month to when your visa is to expire. Or you wait for the 6months to expire before applying thanks[ author=Nielbaba post=99525923]yea thanks , I used my fiance card already , it was seamless tho , I paid for 2years dey deducted 379£ . My biometric is on Friday .thanks all

I don't know the rule , but I didn't apply immediately my 6months expired , cos the plan was for her to come over so we get married and do the spouse visa , but a lot happened we couldn't achieve dat , hence im applying for the 2years exactly a year after the expiration of the 6months

mamaforsure:
pls wher can i have my corona virus test donenfor the purpose of teaveling?

72hrs ....not more than
u can do it even 48 hrs b4 flight provided the result will come out

i stant to be corrected.

Hellooo guys... my mum got her visa��, thank you soo much to everyone who helped in one way or the other. With this thread indeed, agents are not needed. We are our own agents lool

Irenenwaka:
Hellooo guys... my mum got her visa��, thank you soo much to everyone who helped in one way or the other. With this thread indeed, agents are not needed. We are our own agents lool

Congratulations