budaatum:
Every singly word written in the Bible is important for the gaining of Wisdom and Understanding.

OK

budaatum:
However you wish to decieve yourself into believing it is God that you are trusting in, it is very obvious to most people that it is in your very own understanding of a book that you read that you are placing your trust.

It is for this very reason that a third aspect of the Godhead called the Holy Spirit is sent inside of you to further minister to you so that you may learn to stop deceiving yourself instead of you making out that you are the sole mouthpiece of God!

OK

Myer:

The Bible should not contradict itself no matter how alive it comes to you. The issue here is that there are verses contradicting themselves which 8s why it's difficult to have a biblical stand on any doctrine.

Should? Are you like those who refuse to accept what you see with your own two eyes and so try to impose your will and desire on what is, or will you understand what you see for what is?

The problem is that you seek for doctrine, as in, a belief or set of beliefs that you must hold on to, rather than to 'understand' that which you read, which is why you are confounded by the contradictions.

If you study the encounters between Jesus and those he constantly argued with, you will find they were trying to impose doctrine while he conquered them with understanding.

It is as Paul said. "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child, but when I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me" and understood.

Anyway, it seems to me as if you have not yet begun. Here's some contradictions in the Bible for you to further wrap your head around.

Myer:


I did not force you to comment on this thread, did I?

I simply opened this thread as a result of the endless arguments here especially among Christians of different denominations.
I myself hope to learn from it.

Now, you can either share your stand on the highlighted points if you have scriptural reference to back them up. Or learn as others do.

Thanks.

I think you mistake me.

I am not saying that you must meet my demands before I answer you. I am just asking you to consider the possibility that answering what you're demanding will not answer the main thing in your OP.

You said in your OP that the Bible is inconsistent ("just when you think you understand anything about the Bible, you find another verse that proves otherwise" ) and you later stated unequivocally that the Bible contradicts itself.

You must understand that these are very positive claims. They are not statements of inquiry or doubt. You are absolutely certain -- judging by your own words, that is -- that the Bible contradicts itself. You even told someone that he needs to study the verses in question to see the contradictions.

In other words, you cannot possibly be asking that anyone demonstrate to you what the Bible means by any of the things you posted. Rather, you are demanding that they prove you wrong about your claims.

Now, if you take a stand like that, it is usually impossible to reverse it. You have offered no reason for why you believe that the Bible contradicts itself. You just offered Bible verses that you believe are contradictory and demand that Christians show that they are not. But what guarantee do you offer any respondent that you will judge their arguments or answers reasonably? None.

That is my problem here. I enjoy discussing the Scriptures. I enjoy helping others understand them. It is even my job to do so. But it is not reasonable to spend time answering questions for people who are not really asking them.

If you believe that you could be wrong in your position, I would be happy to engage you. If you don't, it would be a waste of time for me at least. Perhaps this is just a pastime for you as it is for so many people on this board, so you don't mind the frivolous debate. But it isn't for me. This is a job for me, even if it is a very enjoyable one. So, in order to do it well, I have to make reasonable use of my time and energy.

I would be happy to engage the specific examples you provided, but I am requesting that we establish first whether or not my answers matter at all. If they don't, there is no end to the verses that any one can post as proof of the Bible's contradictions and there is no end to the ridiculous excuses that are thrown up to reject any defence offered by a gifted and prepared pastor-teacher for the Bible's statements. That is all I am saying.

Better to not start the discussion at all than to waste time quarreling over something that we both have a fundamental disagreement on.

budaatum:


Are you sure you are a Martian because you sound very like one of the ignorant earthlings.

When did the universal opinion or understanding of ignorant fuqs who "most don’t know", become the determinant of what is?

Can the millions of humans who have never left this earth ever become determinants of anything about the Mars that you come from?

Lol, calm down.
The application of the logos to Jesus can be interpreted however a Christian understands it or according to the doctrine of the Christian sect they belong to regardless of john’s intention or your understanding. Why are they ignorant bleeps? Because they don’t interpret their religion the way you do?
You act as if the “logos”’is a fact and that there aren't multiple definitions of the concept.

Kobojunkie:
As far as the New Covenant is concerned, Jesus Christ is the Law, so every word that is uttered has to be weighed against the Law(Jesus Christ) Himself.
There are doctrines out there that suggest that the line in bold suggests that through the Spirit of Truth(Jesus Christ) that there will be revealed, what they call "new truths", different from what Jesus Christ set in place during His time on earth, but the fact is that is not what Jesus Christ said there.

Imagine the teachings of Jesus Christ as you would axioms, Truths that are established as the foundational Truth of the New Covenant - God's own message. It is atop of these axioms that every Truth we receive from the Spirit of God will be built on -- The Spirit will not speak of His own authority that is to say He will not bring to us a different set of axioms from that which Jesus Christ has established. We will have our eyes opened to so many new ideas but every idea built on top of the foundational truth that is Jesus Christ, every one of His teachings reflecting clearly the Truth of Jesus Christ in all-wise.

It is kind of like what you would find in the language of mathematics. The entire field of learning is in fact built atop axioms, propositions on which every mathematical idea, formulae, computation, proof, etc. is built on. You deviate in any way or form from those axioms, and you are no longer in the mathematical realm - no longer learning mathematics but something else. In Mathematics, those are also called contradictions and what you typically do to such is you throw them out.

In Physics, the laws of Classical Physics do not apply to Quantum physics.

Could it not also be that Jesus was teaching "classical physics" while the Holyspirit teaches "Quantum Physics"?

Myer:
In Physics, the laws of Classical Physics do not apply to Quantum physics.
Could it not also be that Jesus was teaching "classical physics" while the Holyspirit teaches "Quantum Physics"?

I used the Mathematical field for a reason - Mathematics is a universal language and is the closest that many of us are exposed to that can compare.

Ihedinobi3:


I think you mistake me.

I am not saying that you must meet my demands before I answer you. I am just asking you to consider the possibility that answering what you're demanding will not answer the main thing in your OP.

You said in your OP that the Bible is inconsistent ("just when you think you understand anything about the Bible, you find another verse that proves otherwise" ) and you later stated unequivocally that the Bible contradicts itself.

You must understand that these are very positive claims. They are not statements of inquiry or doubt. You are absolutely certain -- judging by your own words, that is -- that the Bible contradicts itself. You even told someone that he needs to study the verses in question to see the contradictions.

In other words, you cannot possibly be asking that anyone demonstrate to you what the Bible means by any of the things you posted. Rather, you are demanding that they prove you wrong about your claims.

Now, if you take a stand like that, it is usually impossible to reverse it. You have offered no reason for why you believe that the Bible contradicts itself. You just offered Bible verses that you believe are contradictory and demand that Christians show that they are not. But what guarantee do you offer any respondent that you will judge their arguments or answers reasonably? None.

That is my problem here. I enjoy discussing the Scriptures. I enjoy helping others understand them. It is even my job to do so. But it is not reasonable to spend time answering questions for people who are not really asking them.

If you believe that you could be wrong in your position, I would be happy to engage you. If you don't, it would be a waste of time for me at least. Perhaps this is just a pastime for you as it is for so many people on this board, so you don't mind the frivolous debate. But it isn't for me. This is a job for me, even if it is a very enjoyable one. So, in order to do it well, I have to make reasonable use of my time and energy.

I would be happy to engage the specific examples you provided, but I am requesting that we establish first whether or not my answers matter at all. If they don't, there is no end to the verses that any one can post as proof of the Bible's contradictions and there is no end to the ridiculous excuses that are thrown up to reject any defence offered by a gifted and prepared pastor-teacher for the Bible's statements. That is all I am saying.

Better to not start the discussion at all than to waste time quarreling over something that we both have a fundamental disagreement on.

You amaze me, especially considering that you claim to be a teacher.

Your job is to teach and preach the gospel regardless of whether it 8s believed or accepted.

Imagine a whole Jesus who knew he would be rejected and even crucified, still came to preach the gospel and due for the same world he knew would murder him. Yet you're already deterred just by your assumption that I would argue with your stand?

All I would have expected was for you to sow your seed as inspired by the spirit, albeit by quoting the word and with prayers have faith that it would perform the work which God has sent it to perform.

But seems to me you're more concerned about your ego that the great commission.

I reiterate, no one is forcing anyone here, if you choose to make your input, good. If not, it's still OK.

Martian:


Lol, calm down.
The application of the logos to Jesus can be interpreted however a Christian understands it or according to the doctrine of the Christian sect they belong to regardless of john’s intention or your understanding. Why are they ignorant bleeps? Because they don’t interpret their religion the way you do?
You act as if the “logos”’is a fact and that there aren't multiple definitions of the concept.

Why do you like telling me to calm down, Martian? Do you seriously believe I sit in my house getting agitated because you can not understand what it is that I am saying? What kind of buda would I be if I get agitated so easily? Trust me when I say you amuse me when you think I can be uncalm.

First, I never talk religion. Which I will define for you here as "the crap that others have created and told you you must believe inside your head".

Second, whenever I talk to you Martian, I believe I am talking to a non-earthling who has therefore been able to escape the religionising of earthly humans. I must say that I am often amused to find that humans are capable of creating crap in Martians heads too, lol.

The word "Logos" has quite a lot of theory behind it in Greek philosophy prior to its inception into Christianity. So while you may be convinced of the multiple definitions of the concept of logos as given by the numerous diverse sects, you might want to study the history of the word itself instead of just claiming it means whatever anyone may decide it might mean since it must be obvious to even Martians that not all human understandings are equally as valid as all others.

I mean, you might think as a sect that buda is not calm for instance, while buda in buda's sect might be as calm as, for the sake if it let's say an avocado if just for the mere fact that I'm calmly about to eat one, don't you think?

Kobojunkie:
I used the Mathematical field for a reason - Mathematics is a universal language and is the closest that many of us are exposed to that can compare.

I know. But just like Mathematics, Physics is fundamental to the study of how things and the universe work. Hence my analogy as well.

If Physics as significant and fundamental as it is can have different layers, could it be that the message of Christ and the Holyspirit could also be layers?

Jesus categorically said, there were things he could not teach his disciples who had followed him for about 3½ years. Meaning it could not be discerned by following his words alone except by the Holyspirit.

Just like Jesus, Peter discriminated against Gentiles. In fact he occasionally avoided healing or even preaching to Gentiles.

But when the Holyspirit was given, Jesus appeared to Peter instructing him that no to call the Gentiles unclean and in fact go and preach to Cornelius and his household.

This would eventually lead Paul to become the Apostle of the Gentiles (uncircumcised).

Now, this would seem to contradict Jesus' teachings by the word. But by the Holyspirit, we can see there's an evolution in his target audience.

budaatum:


Why do you like telling me to calm down, Martian? Do you seriously believe I sit in my house getting agitated because you can not understand what it is that I am saying? What kind of buda would I be if I get agitated so easily? Trust me when I say you amuse me when you think I can be uncalm.

First, I never talk religion. Which I will define for you here as "the crap that others have created and told you you must believe inside your head".

Second, whenever I talk to you Martian, I believe I am talking to a non-earthling who has therefore been able to escape the religionising of earthly humans. I must say that I am often amused to find that humans are capable of creating crap in Martians heads too, lol.

The word "Logos" has quite a lot of theory behind it in Greek philosophy prior to its inception into Christianity. So while you may be convinced of the multiple definitions of the concept of logos as given by the numerous diverse sects, you might want to study the history of the word itself instead of just claiming it means whatever anyone may decide it might mean since it must be obvious to even Martians that not all human understandings are equally as valid as all others.

I mean, you might think as a sect that buda is not calm for instance, while buda in buda's sect might be as calm as, for the sake if it let's say an avocado if just for the mere fact that I'm calmly about to eat one, don't you think?

Bla bla bla. You might want to consider that your so called understanding is just another interpretation of an abstract idea. The Greeks themselves had multiple interpretations of it but your highfaluting self think your interpretation is correct. Yes, it means whatever they decide it means according to their interpretation which is just as valid as yours.

Martian:


Bla bla bla. You might want to consider that your so called understanding is just another interpretation of an abstract idea.

But of course it is just another interpretation of an abstract idea. Have I claimed otherwise, Martian? Or do you just not know that is how we humans learn?

I am of course relying on you using your own mind to interprete and understand the abstract idea to reason and make sense of the abstract idea, but rather amusingly, I'm beginning to realise such things are far beyond the minds of bla bla bla Martians.

Remain calm now. Lol.

Myer:
I know. But just like Mathematics, Physics is fundamental to the study of how things and the universe work. Hence my analogy as well.
If Physics as significant and fundamental as it is can have different layers, could it be that the message of Christ and the Holyspirit could also be layers?

Jesus categorically said, there were things he could not teach his disciples who had followed him for about 3½ years. Meaning it could not be discerned by following his words alone except by the Holyspirit.

Meaning it could not be discerned by following His words alone except by the Spirit of God? Well, the average individual is not able to discern, say discrete math, unless under the guidance of an instructor in the field either. In a similar manner, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit who was inside of Jesus Christ, serves as the one and only Teacher to all those who are followers of Jesus Christ, helping them discern all Truths that have to do with Jesus Christ.

Myer:
Just like Jesus, Peter discriminated against Gentiles. In fact he occasionally avoided healing or even preaching to Gentiles.

Jesus Christ did not discriminate against the gentiles in much the same way that Peter did. Jesus Christ was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, the Jews. However, while He was with them, He encountered gentiles and did indeed engage them as He could.

Peter was sent into the world by Jesus Christ but apparently he, Peter, did not understand that that included even to the Gentiles, and so the Spirit of Truth, revealed that to Him as we read of.

Myer:
But when the Holyspirit was given, Jesus appeared to Peter instructing him that no to call the Gentiles unclean and in fact go and preach to Cornelius and his household.

Note what it was that was supposedly revealed to Peter in His Vision, and read the passage below... to understand when the Spirit of Truth commanded Him to also not that which God has made unclean.

Matthew 15 vs 10-30 (ESV)
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10. Jesus called the people to him. He said, “Listen and understand what I am saying.
11. It is not what people put in their mouth that makes them wrong.[c] It is what comes out of their mouth that makes them wrong.”
12. Then the followers came to Jesus and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees are upset about what you said?”
13. Jesus answered, “Every plant that my Father in heaven has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.
14. Stay away from the Pharisees. They lead the people, but they are like blind men leading other blind men. And if a blind man leads another blind man, both of them will fall into a ditch.”
15. Peter said, “Explain to us what you said earlier to the people.”
16. Jesus said, “Do you still have trouble understanding?
17. Surely you know that all the food that enters the mouth goes into the stomach. Then it goes out of the body.
18. But the bad things people say with their mouth come from the way they think. And that’s what can make people wrong.
19. All these bad things begin in the mind: evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual sins, stealing, lying, and insulting people.
20. These are the things that make people wrong. Eating without washing their hands will never make people unacceptable to God.”

The Spirit of Truth took from what Jesus Christ had already taught His disciples, revealing to Peter a truth he was still missing. The Truth He, the Spirit of Truth recess to His servants are Truts rooted in the very teachings of Jesus Christ.

If after this, Peter still resisted associating with Gentiles, it was likely Peter himself hesitated, and not because of some problem with Jesus Christ's teaching of the truth revealed Him by the Spirit of God. It is hard to break from that which you have been raised/indoctrinated with, to instead follow different teaching, in Peter's case, the teachings of Jesus Christ.

The same can be said of those of us who chose to follow Him even today, especially those who do it later in life.

Myer:
This would eventually lead Paul to become the Apostle of the Gentiles (uncircumcised).

What? I am aware of that opinion, but I don't think that is entirely the truth of what in fact happened.

Matter of fact, it is recorded, that the other disciples went to other parts of the world beginning when the believers were scattered out of Jerusalem. The Spirit of God Himself dispersed them all to different parts of the world as He would. From my researching what I learnt what became of the Apostles, I came upon on information that suggest they indeed while out in Gentile-world. E.g. Andrew is suspected to have gone as far east as Georgia where there is to this day there a legend that Andrew was the first Christian teacher to make it to them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle

Myer:
Now, this would seem to contradict Jesus' teachings by the word. But by the Holyspirit, we can see there's an evolution in his target audience.

I don't see the contradiction which you declare.

budaatum:


But of course it is just another interpretation of an abstract idea. Have I claimed otherwise, Martian? Or do you just not know that is how we humans learn?

I am of course relying on you using your own mind to interprete and understand the abstract idea to reason and make sense of the abstract idea, but rather amusingly, I'm beginning to realise such things are far beyond the minds of bla bla bla Martians.

Remain calm now. Lol.

Calm, I am. You are the one who referred to Christians who don’t share your particular interpretation as “ignorant fuqs”.

Don’t worry about my interpretation of it. It’s as real as the leprechaun sitting on your shoulder and as useful as a three dollar bill.

Myer:


You amaze me, especially considering that you claim to be a teacher.

Your job is to teach and preach the gospel regardless of whether it 8s believed or accepted.

Imagine a whole Jesus who knew he would be rejected and even crucified, still came to preach the gospel and due for the same world he knew would murder him. Yet you're already deterred just by your assumption that I would argue with your stand?

All I would have expected was for you to sow your seed as inspired by the spirit, albeit by quoting the word and with prayers have faith that it would perform the work which God has sent it to perform.

But seems to me you're more concerned about your ego that the great commission.

I reiterate, no one is forcing anyone here, if you choose to make your input, good. If not, it's still OK.

Very well. I have made my input. It is clear that it doesn't suit you.

As for what my job is, isn't it interesting that you now deign to define it for me? Not only are you so confident that the Bible contradicts itself, you now also know for certain that a pastor-teacher's job is to teach whether he is believed or not. As with your first claim, I know that you will not substantiate that claim either, so there is no point asking you to do so.

For what it is worth, we are commanded by the Lord Jesus to not give holy things to dogs or cast our pearls before swine lest they trample these precious things underfoot and turn around and tear us to pieces. That is what the Bible actually says. Since my job is defined by the Bible and not you, I would say that I shouldn't care how you are pleased to define my job if your definition runs counter to the Bible.

As for being deterred by the fact that you would argue with my stance, I think that even my comments here would show that you are making yet another false claim. I have only said that I will not commit myself to never-ending arguments and quarrels with you. By all means, argue with me if you want. I am a teacher, not a dictator. What I won't do is waste my time in frivolous debates that accomplish nothing of value for anybody. After all, it is the Bible that tells teachers to stay away from such things as well.

Please, feel free to accuse me of anything you please. If you want to hear what I believe, I will gladly tell you. But claiming that I don't care as much for the great commission as I do for my ego is no proof at all that the Gospel is your concern. It is nothing more than bait for me to wade into meaningless debating with you. I have more than a couple thousand posts on this one account alone to show that I am not shy of teaching the Gospel under all kinds of circumstances. The fact that you want a frivolous debate is the only thing that is stopping me here.

Martian:

Calm, I am. You are the one who referred to Christians who don’t share your particular interpretation as “ignorant fuqs”.

That is a blatant lie, Martian. I never said "Christians who don’t share your particular interpretation as “ignorant fuqs”".

In fact, you will hardly find a single Christian who shares my particular interpretation, and they can not all be ignorant fuqs! And if I say Christians are ignorant fuqs, what the heck would I have to call Martians?

You should read when I interpret Genesis 3 and tell how Eve was the first Biblical scientist and see how many say buda is satan and must burn in hell. But hey, some believe what they are told to believe while some of us will pluck the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to see for ourselves if its true that on the day that we eat we shall surely die or not.

budaatum:

That is a blatant lie, Martian. I never said "Christians who don’t share your particular interpretation as “ignorant fuqs”".

In fact, you will hardly find a single Christian who shares my particular interpretation, and they can not all be ignorant fuqs! And if I say Christians are ignorant fuqs, what the heck would I have to call Martians?

budaatum:

When did the universal opinion or understanding of ignorant fuqs who "most don’t know", become the determinant of what is?

You did call them ignorant fuqs because they don't share your interpretation as if the logos is some actual entity with an objective definition and not an idea that can be interpreted multiple ways.

budaatum:

You should read when I interpret Genesis 3 and tell how Eve was the first Biblical scientist and see how many say buda is satan and must burn in hell. But hey, some believe what they are told to believe while some of us will pluck the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to see for ourselves if its true that on the day that we eat we shall surely die or not.

Bla bla bla. I'll let your christians resolve the interpretations, the poisonous fruits that kill slowly, and the loving concept of hell.

Martian:

You did call them ignorant fuqs because they don't share your interpretation as if the logos is some actual entity with an objective definition and not an idea that can be interpreted multiple ways.

No I did not! It's your "most don't know" that I was referring to Martian, and not all Christians as you would like to believe!

Martian:
......both
Kobojunkie did not use avatar as a synonym for Jesus’ embodiment of the logos.
and
Jesus is not universally regarded as the logos by Christians because most don’t know what the logos mean, and not all who know regard him as such.

budaatum:


No I did not! It's your "most don't know" that I was referring to Martian, and not all Christians as you would like to believe!

You did.

Martian:


You did.

Lol. Go on, say it again so you can really really believe yourself.

budaatum:


Lol. Go on, say it again so you can really really believe yourself.

I'll rather quote you.

budaatum:

When did the universal opinion or understanding of ignorant fuqs who "most don’t know", become the determinant of what is?

budaatum:


Every singly word written in the Bible is important for the gaining of Wisdom and Understanding.

lol

7 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.

Martian:


lol

The same buda wrote the following, but of course it would be far too much for you to comprehend.

budaatum:


buda Torn "Three versions of truth" Where did you get all that from!?

buda would say "What is truth". But do know that buda does not do "belief", since to believe is to not know. If buda says "buda believes", it means, buda does not know because buda is ignorant.

As to your "torn between three versions", you can not count. For it is written:

Humans shall not live by bread alone or they shall be malnourished. Matthew 4:4

Because:

And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. John 21:25

And:

"If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean ˹were ink˺, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted. Surely Allah is Almighty, and Wise". Luqman 31:27

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budaatum:


The same buda wrote the following, but of course it would be far too much for you to comprehend.

You and the Sagan quote are like oil and water.

Martian:


You and the Sagan quote are like oil and water.

I believe you Martian, lol.

How you getting on with the other book you can not read?

budaatum:


I believe you Martian, lol.

How you getting on with the other book you can not read?

The being that finds itself in the world and has to learn to live authentically by finding it's own meaning during the duration of time it exists?
Go back to reading. Maybe you can catch up

Martian:


The being that finds itself in the world and has to learn to live authentically by finding it's own meaning during the duration of time it exists?
Go back to reading. Maybe you can catch up

Says a Martian who has not bothered to learn to live on earth but thinks he has?

You will never catch up Martian!

budaatum:


Says a Martian who has not bothered to learn to live on earth but thinks he has?

You will never catch up Martian!

You are molasses compared to me child.

Martian:


You are molasses compared to me child.

You keep creating crap inside your head to believe Martian. I'm certain if you try really realy hard your beliefs just might become the truth.

budaatum:


You keep creating crap inside your head to believe Martian. I'm certain if you try really realy hard your beliefs just might become the truth.

Crap and beliefs are your purview. Your "understanding" will remain crap.

Martian:


Crap and beliefs are your purview. Your "understanding" will remain crap.

And you expect the crappy ignorant belief you uttered above to matter one single iota to buda?

Go on. Say it seriously. Make buda really laugh.