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Adedayo516: Stop spreading wrong infos... The form was just advertised yesterday 3 July.

Sorry.. But someone told me it was out last month.

towsyne: na only u well 4 dis place fanks

Me included

towsyne: na only u well 4 dis place fanks

Me included

diarisgod: Evening pals... Our Post-UTME may be nearer than we think. UNILAG has just announced theirs.

Since last month

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2helpu: Thanks for your question.
There are different ways by which they promote sin.

Some teach once saved forever saved. That means once you publicly claimed to be born again, whatever you do then does not matter again even if you commit sin. Some allow pre-marital sex. They claim that once you've agreed to marry a person you are free to have sex with such a partner even before marriage(fornication). Some teach their congregation to bow down to images of supposed dead saints(idolatry).
Some permit their members to commit abortion(murder). Some accept homosexuality/gay relationships(sodomy and abomination). Some reject, remove or contradict the Bible in their teachings and actions.

There are many ways sins are promoted by false teachers, false prophets etc but I just listed a few.
For further reading please study Mathew 24:1-30. 2 Tim 3:1-7, 1Tim 4:1-2

Well nt al dt preach once saved always saved actually promote sin. Dey preach a Biblical fact.nd yea, SOME take it d oda way

OLAADEGBU: Now back to the question of the OP: Is repentance necessary for salvation?

OLAADEGBU: Now back to the question of the OP: Is repentance necessary for salvation?

It's ultimately and compulsorily required provided its the biblical repentance. Admiting you are sinner, not just a sinner, but a sinner under the judgement of God. And then going by faith to Jesus who is the only Mediator between you and God. Confessing Him as your Lord i.e the Messiah/Christ who died for your sins. And believe that He has forgiven you ALL YOUR SINS. Col2:13-15 (this will give boldness before God and assure your salvation, 1John5:13) all I sum up as the repentance required. The repentance of a change of mind and not a change of action but, of course, can lead to a change of action.
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Moreover, Rom 4:5 doesnt teach that God takes repentance into account for righteousness but faith.. The book of John mainly deals on faith and never contains the words "repentance" and "repent". Yeah, some verses of the Bible state that repentance, in many cases only repentance, is all what that is required for salvation. Yet, the great and popular verse for salvation, Rom10:9, doesnt require repentance at all. This doesnt mean that Bible contradicts itself. It only, as I deem, tries to explain faith and repentance that both do not deal with works but the sincerity of the heart. Not only does the Bible teach so, but it also teaches that true salvation(now bringing faith and repentance as one) will definitely produce good works. And that's why the Gospel of John has no wordings as repentance since believe takes care of it all.
The "meet" used in Act 26:20 also means "on the ground of" which still means true salvation produces good works.

@OP
2Cor11:3,"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
I agree with your post. I agree that saving faith produces good works and a change of life, but neither good works nor change of life produces saving faith. I agree that both repentance and faith are needed, but I insist that both repentance and faith are the same tho Mark1:15 seems to make them different phases and Act 20:21 too which I will explain later..
When you turn to Christ by faith for the forgiveness of sin is repentance. Repentance is the foundation of a saving faith which, of course, will produce fruit. I can just tell a person to repent toward God and be saved. I'm still saying have faith in God and be saved. James 2:19 says that even the devils believe in God but not unto salvation rather they tremble. Their faith isn't the saving faith in the Bible. The saving faith is the one "repentance" can substitute for

@OP
2Cor11:3,"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
I agree with your post. I agree that saving faith produces good works and a change of life, but neither good works nor change of life produces saving faith. I agree that both repentance and faith are needed, but I insist that both repentance and faith are the same tho Mark1:15 seems to make them different phases and Act 20:21 too which I will explain later..
When you turn to Christ by faith for the forgiveness of sin is repentance. Repentance is the foundation of a saving faith which, of course, will produce fruit. I can just tell a person to repent toward God and be saved. I'm still saying have faith in God and be saved. James 2:19 says that even the devils believe in God but not unto salvation rather they tremble. Their faith isn't the saving faith in the Bible. The saving faith is the one "repentance" can substitute

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Inkredible: Pls who knows wia I can logde a complaint in nairaland. M just re-registering after the attack n cannot comment on some posts in tech market sections. I don't know if it happens to anyone else. Pls help out.

It happened to me too.. But I later realized that during the early return of Nairaland, it was only in read-only mode€u can't comment, quote, report, like, hate etc... But later sha it returned 2 normal..And now I can do all dat.
Log in wit d account nd try commentin

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[quote=author odun4love]The reason why is hard to get sanctified is that, if truly u are forever u won't sin again[/quote]Yeah..That's actuality that happened when we got saved.. If u continue in the same process ov trust in Jesus's death Col2:6 God continues 2 4give all ur sins, past, present and future sins

Many claimed they are, yet next time u will see them asking for forgiveness

That's wat I explained that though we are santified 4ever we liv our normal life here, but in the manisfestation of d fruits ov d Spirit Gal5:21-22. Yet we sin according to 1Jhn1:8-10.. And that's normal because we r humans stil in ds sinful nature.

Thats not sanctification

Yh but progressive sanctification

..... Until u no longer sin or think of sin.... Then u r sanctified.

Well thats possible but its untill when "dis corruptible has put on incorruption, and ds mortal has put on immortality" 1Cor15:51-57 and guess when that will be...

odun4love: Do u know the reason why I said most pastors doesn't know it is that they dont preach about it.... And u cant preach what u didn't understand... U were right about what u said but is more than that..... The reason why is hard to get sanctified is that, if truly u are forever u won't sin again.... Many claimed they are, yet next time u will see them asking for forgiveness.. Thats not sanctification ..... Until u no longer sin or think of sin.... Then u r sanctified.

Yeah.. But 2 claim dat u r sinless is 2 claim dt ur Jesus 2Pt2:22. To claim dt ur sinless is mk Rom3:10 a lie. To claim ur sinless is2 count ur righteousness as sumtin wen d bible calls it filthy rag Isa64:6.. To claim dt ur sinless is 2commit dt great sin in Heb10:26-29 whr one rejects d sacrifice ov Christ nd start trustn smetin else, self-righteousness 4 example..
We should understand dt as believers WE ARE HOLY FOREVER HEB10:10-14..Because God NO LONGER COUNTS YOUR SINS AGAINST U 2Cor5:19-21, Jh1:29, Rom6:14

I understand now that this so-called demon possession aint anything spectacular. They are mere psychological disturbance. Pastors don't know anything about it as they are always erroneously attributing it to the supernatural. They only get "clues" from the victim and then conclude that they are demon possessed. Then they hurl prayers on the victim, who also is "falsely" convicted that s/he is possessed. A kind of "placebo effect" takes over; making the victim behave in weird ways like vomitting and the likes.

NOTE: There might be some better scientific explanation I'm ignorant of at the moment.

Bottom line: demon possession is nonsense

And please could you tell us how they promote sin?

odun4love: what would you say about santification and how do u get santified.....?

Note: 90 percent of pastors dont know this

Hmmmmm.. My ogas have said it all.. Great job OP
Reading Heb10:10 we receive santification right when we become saved.. God not only forgives our sins, He imputes the righteousness of His Son on us(Read Rom4&5).. He does this through the help of His Son's sacrifice€an offering for sin..
As sanctification is connected to holiness, Heb10:10-14 say we are sanctified or perfected by the sacrifice of Jesus forever..
Our righteousness can't please God, yet, God doesnt see sin..But with the help of Jesus, God sees us righteous, not because of our works, but because God has made Jesus our righteousness 1Cor1:30...
And while we are perfected forever, we also have this type of sanctification€progressive sanctification.. Sanctification means "to set apart for holy use" The progressive sanctification is our own continual life of holiness Rom12:1-2..
As I understand..

Loveaflame: God can't give you a child only to break your heart with the Child's PREMATURE death. That's not God

What about Abramham whom God told to sacrifice his son, though at the end God later told him not to, but at least God can use one's child as a test..
Also, remember Gideon who sacrificed his only daughter because he vowed a vow to God..
And the popular Job whom God allowed Satan to destroy all his sons and daughters..
In our time too I have seen many pastors who testify that God took their baby/child just to test their faith...
Remember Job1:21,"...the Lord gave, and hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord."
What am I saying, that all babies' death are caused by God? No... But just saying God can test us that way...
And...."Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life which the Lord hath promised to them that love him."

DikSin: how dare u U dare use the word illitrate on me when there are other simile you can choose?

Won't blame u though, No prison break, yet you excape from #YabaLeft. Do urself a favour, turn yourself in @ #Kuje

Did I call you an illiterate?!..
Mayb I was right after all

@OP.... If repentance actually mean turning away from sin and thus required, why is it that the gospel of John never mentions repentance at all.. Yeah repentance is nowhere there! And if repentance means turning away from sin are you saying God in Gen6:6 and Exodus32:14 also turned away from sin!? "and it repented the Lord of the evil He thought to do unto His people.".. Yeah, of course, repentace is required for salvation, but not the type of repentance you are saying here...
The fault comes from our interpretation of the word repent
Repent comes from the greek word metanoeo which simply means "to change one's mind or purpose" and "To feel sorry for what one has done" which both interpretations fit in perfectly in Exodus32:14..
"Two sides of a coin" Yeah.. But not to your interpretation.. You can't have faith in God without repenting, and you can't actually repent without putting faith in Christ Jesus as your Savior..
To put it clear, they are the same.. And the book of John confirm

DikSin: I read somewhere in the Bible that: "I AM NOT A MAN that I should lie"; so what I call him don't matter in this context.

Don't think like an illiterate Bro.. You do know well what He means by I AM NOT A MAN that I should lie.. Though you don't believe that in your present situation.. It doesn't necessary mean He is inanimate.. Moreover, nowhere in the Bible is "it" used for God...