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cocolacec:
I wonder if war start in South west Nigeria,how hausas/fulani and Ibos and others will have to flee.Nigeria will really collapse to pieces.

Crimes will quadrupule in the North and East.It will be total chaos in Nigeria.

Yorubaland is the refugee camp and economic backbone of Nigeria.Any attempt to turn it to a war zone will affect ,the British and European interests and Buhari and cohorts will never be forgiven for that mistake.

Bias fellow, so there will be crime in the North and East but the West will be crime free. Stop bothering about the safety of the Igbos, and think of how your people will win or survive in the event of a war.

Kwashiman:
Both ably led by two outspoken and determined leaders in Kanu for the SE and Sunday Igboho for the SW respectively. Even though Kanu's grand plan for a Biafran nation currently poses more of a national security threat considering the paranoia the Federal government harbors towards the East due to the history of the bloody civil war... Sunday Igboho himself hasn't hidden his fierce stand on an Odua nation and I see him been the main frontier for the agitation across the SW soon, after he is done dealing with the Fulani menace in his homeland. Yorubas and Igbos might differ on a lot of things especially sociopolitically; but we've never had a history of crisis or violence between us cause both tribes largely respect the sanctity of life.

Now that the SE and SW are fighting the Fulani menace in their respective ways... The question remains what are our South South and Middle belt Brothers doing in tackling the Fulani menace in their regions? when will we see a South South or/and Middle belt replica of a Kanu or Sunday Igboho type leader that will lead the charge and sensitize their people to effectively take back their territorial space that's been threatened by these sahel-migrating degenerates?

Oga stop trying to add the SS to your equation. A tiger doesn't is slow to anger but quick to conquer. The SS can defend itself, if the need arises.

Also, stop trying to lump the SE into the SW issue. They are entirely different entities, let all man face their problems alone unless it comes to a war, then can South can fight as allies.

fergie001:
M.I Power

Continue to rest

The name behind our great Alma mata.

Rest on M.I Okpara

SilverNorGold:
I have been reading some psychopathic 'Yoruba' comments regarding this incident and I just laugh... I have also noticed how they label every dissenter 'a Fulani' or 'Hausa slave' - I was also called 'Fulani' and then 'Hausa slave' by same persons for daring to share my own opinion...

I laugh at the hypocritical Yorubas cos when the kasala wey them dey run cast, e go do them like film... Once the war starts, my brother, na only una go fight because me and my people go mind our business.. Even if we go side any party at all, it would be Nigeria cos it's obvious the Yorubas expelling and persecuting Northerners(not only Fulanis) are the same people calling for Oduduwa Republic, which makes it obvious they're intentionally causing crisis to further their own selfish interests.. They sponsored the EndSars protests... It failed woefully. They attempted a second one which was resisted by well-meaning Nigerians. Now they are going about extrajudicially evicting people from their home in gross violation of the constitution.. Maiming, looting and dismembering hapless civilians...

But we are watching.. If they think we will side them, then they've got another think coming...

Cos Nigeria is my country; my allegiance is to Nigeria and I am ready to die for Nigeria.

God bless Nigeria.
Long live Nigeria!

Oga, you now see how annoying it is when they do it to you, when you and your goons label anybody that speaks against the bad of this government you brand them IPOB, now you're crying when the favor is returned, please rest.

Again, you think the Yorubas we need your support in the outbreak of a war. I don't understand why you feel your tribe is so important, they will align with those who have similar interest with them.
Also be rest assured that if this eventually leads to a war, "e no go be like 1966 at all". One region/tribe can't keep on intimidating the whole Nigeria.

Peter Dada, Akure

Ondo State Governor, Rotimi Akeredolu, has approved recruitment into the state Security Network Agency also known as Amotekun Corps.

The approval was contained in a memo on Friday signed by the secretary of the corps, Lanre Amuda, on behalf of the commander, Adetunji Adeleye.

According to the memo, the categories of officers to be recruited include regular officers, intelligence corps and volunteers.

The memo read, “Interested and suitable applicants must be from 20 to 70 years while they must possess at least, first school leaving certificate.

“The applicants must also be medically and psychologically balanced with good character and good working knowledge of immediate locality.

“Submission of forms and screening of candidates will open from Wednesday, January 27 to Monday, February 8, 2021.”

The memo also stipulated that interested candidates have been directed to obtain the recruitment form from the agency’s website.

[url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/amotekun-begins-recruitment-in-ondo/%3famp=1]https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/amotekun-begins-recruitment-in-ondo/[/url]

Olufemi Olaniyi and Wale Oyewale

Violence erupted in Igangan in the Ibarapa North Local Government Area of Oyo State on Friday when a popular Yoruba activist, Chief Sunday Adeyemo, also known as Sunday Igboho, reportedly stormed the Fulani settlement in the town to eject the Seriki Fulani, Salihu Abdukadir, and some other herdsmen accused of fuelling security problems in the area.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that some persons were killed while properties worth several millions of naira were set ablaze during the clash which occured in the evening.

Although Igboho could not be reached as calls to his telephone line indicated that he was out of reach, residents of Igangan however said that at least one youth from Igboora was killed by Fulani fighters while two others sustained injuries from gun shots.

The Seriki also told our correspondent that one Fulani woman was killed. He said he had fled the town before Igboho returned on Friday.

The claims from both sides could not be independently verified as of press time on Friday.

Igboho had last week issued a seven-day quit notice to the Seriki and his associates.

Governor Seyi Makinde of Oyo State had in a broadcast warned people fuelling ethic crisis in the state to desist from such act.

Despite this, Igboho and his supporters stormed Igangan on Friday afternoon.

Addressing the youths, Igboho said, “They started deploying soldiers here since yesterday (Thursday). When our people were being kidnapped and killed, there was not soldier to be deployed to secure them.

Reacting, the Oyo State PPRO, Mr. Olugbenga Fadeyi, said, “Tactical police teams with Operation Burst are on ground to give maximum security protection while efforts are on to ascertain the situation there.”

Makinde vows to resist ethnic crisis

Meanwhile, Makinde said on Friday that his government would not allow anyone hiding under the guise of ethnic interest to perpetrate a crisis in the state.
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Makinde said the war to be waged by the state and the security agencies was against criminal elements, irrespective of their tribes, religions or creed.

He added that his administration would not allow anyone to threaten the peace of the state by acting unlawfully as such was against the nation’s Constitution.

The governor, who spoke while receiving the new Commissioner of Police in the state, Mrs Ngozi Onadeko, said the state government would not relent in placing priority on the welfare of security agencies in the state.

The governor said, “For people stoking ethnic tension, they are criminals and once you get them, they should be arrested and treated like common criminals. For this administration, the major pillar for us is security, because we know that all the good economic plans we have won’t be possible in an atmosphere of chaos and insecurity.”

“So, when people say things that are neither lawful nor within the spirit of Nigeria’s Constitution, it is not acceptable here. And they cannot hide under the guise of protecting Yoruba interest to perpetuate chaos in the state.”

[url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/two-feared-dead-as-herdsmen-sunday-igbohos-supporters-clash-in-oyo/%3famp=1]https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/two-feared-dead-as-herdsmen-sunday-igbohos-supporters-clash-in-oyo/[/url]

Sammy07:
I swear, yet we accuse the North of being illiterate lol.

The Northerners maybe illiterates but their political elites are very clever and cunning, they don't play to the gallery or try to sound correct.

Sammy07:
Normally, Southern leaders are very stupid.

I am telling you, they enjoy suffering the people to look politically correct.

samdunzo:
I agree as well. Hopefully, everyone can come to their senses, lest full scale war breaks out

I hope so too man, I don't want a war because it will be devastating.

samdunzo:
So what do you suggest?

They should restructure and still leave secession open for any region that wants to secede. I think that will be the only fair deal.

samdunzo:
If that's a fear, have all nationalities agree to a no succession clause. We cant continue to ignore this topic

We know that can't work, every tribe/region hopes to be a sovereign state. This would have worked in the 60s, it just can't work now.

OROSUNBOLB:
You're right !

Thanks once again.

samdunzo:
Restructuring is the key

They won't agree to restructure because it will ultimately lead to secession. Once the restructured regions performing well without other regions, and the central government, they will want more (full autonomy/sovereignty) to achieve their full potentials.

OROSUNBOLB:
They mean almost the same thing - a settlement or an abode of experienced warriors which later became family compound of sort. This was occasioned by the movement of troops from one location to another during the series of wars that were being fought at that time - Kiriji wars,Jalumi wars,fulani wars,Yoruba Revolutionary wars etc.

After these wars,some of the warriors decided to settle permanently in the stations - towns where they were posted and became indigenes of those towns. For instance,former President Obasanjo (from Abeokuta),who is also the Balogun of Owu in Abeokuta has his roots in Owu town of Osun state. He is a descendant of Owu warriors who left for Abeokuta from Owu in Osun state during one these wars.

Such settlements or family compounds can be found in almost all Yoruba villages,towns and cities.

Ile = House

Jagun or Jagunjagun = Warrior

Therefore "Ile Jagun" literally means Warrior's house or compound.

Ile Balogun

Ile = House

Balogun means Head of warriors.

Therefore, "Ile Balogun" means Head of warriors house or compound.

Oluode means Head of hunters. Therefore, "Ile Oluode" means Head of hunters house or compound.

I hope you have an idea of what they mean now and their historical background ?

Thank you, so much for the explanation. So by your explanation, it means that Obasanjo is the head of Owu warriors in Abeokuta.

banio:
War is not by population ooh. It's by modern ammunitions, strategy, government support etc.

True. Modern wars are won by strategy, government support, and availability of weapons and the know-how on how to use them.

samdunzo:
Exactly why I don't want it to get to that point. Unfortunately, it seems like these Fulani guys in government positions are complicit in all of this. Because if not, this would have been handled all the way back in 2018/9

The Fulanis in government are complicit because from their past words, and body language, you can tell they are fully in support of what is ongoing.
We should just keep calm, and watch how it plays out, the coming days will tell if we would cease to exist as a nation or not.

ceaser:
The Fulanis in CAR had much more control of state structures of the country than they currently do in Nigeria, yet they failed miserably at protecting 'emselves when the people rose against 'em. Nigeria is polytheistic and also multi-ethnic, that is one reason alone that will water down their influence over the army. As such, they can't have complete control of the army against Nigerians.

The #EndSars "mini anarchy" is an uprising, somewhat like what happened in CAR. The security forces were simply overan such that they had no choice but to align with the people in some instances of palliatives sharing that we saw online.

In the east, there were recorded cases of soldiers shooting protesters without the bullets having any effects on the advancing protesters. Security personnels that failed to retreat were simply mobbed or outrightly taken out. In addition, the military is overstretched and can only do so much to fight on the side of a non aboriginal group like the Fulani. There tool of religion worked in the North by placating the people until they took over every structure. This tool cannot work in the south most especially the South East.

If push comes to shove, I doubt the Fulani hegemony will thread with caution in standing with herdsmen against the whole country and murdering majority.

As a matter of fact, if this battle does not take place now, the Fulanis are already an endangered group that people are waiting for to have their pound of flesh post 2023.

You can be sure they know this as well, so by then they will have reduced their criminal activities significantly and patiently waiting for another opportunity when they will have their own in power again to continue the evil. But of course that strategy is already known, so Nigerians are more woke.

They may not have total control over the country's military but they do control some of the most strategic military hardware in the country. In fact, some of the country's best military formations and artillery are situated in the North.

I don't think the Fulani hegemony will caution the rampaging herdsmen or even deny them. If there's anything, we should have learnt in this country is that the Fulanis stand with their own regardless of the situation.
The Fulanis are playing a game of slow, steady and consistent wins the race. Like you pointed out, they will wait out 2023 and continue to advance on their goals, although this can only happen if power rotates to the South, if not they will continue to have a field day.

samdunzo:
How many are Fulani in Nigeria. Even if you say that they have brothers in Africa, they are no more than 25 million. Yoruba in Nigeria alone is 40 million, and don't forget there are Yorubas in Benin, Togo, and descendants of Yoruba all over the world with strong ties to the culture. And then you add other groups in Nigeria, do you really think Fulani alone can withstand all of them? I pray it doesn't get to that point though, because it would destabilize all of West Africa

I don't really know how true the data about the population of tribes in Nigeria are but I can say that whatever crisis that erupts in Nigeria be it a war or a revolution, it would destabilize West Africa, the already unstable Sahel, and other parts of the world because there will be a refugee crisis.

Sammy07:
Ile jagun - Warriors families / descendants
Ile balogun - War lords families / descendants
Ile oluode - Hunters families / descendants

You will always find this in all Yoruba towns and villages

Thank you for the explanation, this is similar to the war canoe houses we have here in Rivers State.

OROSUNBOLB:
No tribe in Africa fought wars more than the Yorubas. It is a fact. There is no Yoruba town or village you'll go and won't find ' Ile Jagun' , 'Ile Balogun' , 'Ile Oluode', or their equivalents. The inhabitants of such family compounds or communities are battle hardened warriors and their descendants.

A typical Yoruba person cherishes his peace because he is aware of the price paid for it by his forebears on the battlefields. When the push comes to shove,trust me,Fulanis are no match for the Yorubas.

You see,when your Cup of iniquity is full, your folly will drag you to the wrong person. This is what is about to happen to the fulanis.

I sincerely hope that Iku babayeye's advice will not be treated with levity.

What does the bolded mean please?
I think everybody cherishes their peace, and won't trade it for anything.
The Alaafin has spoken for not just the Yorubas but every other tribe that has witnessed attacks by Fulani herdsmen. If there is a thing I have learnt about humans is that they have a breaking point, and when that point is reached all hell will be let loose.

LegendHero:
At least they are not like Ojuku that left 3millions in agony before taking off like Usain bolt.

I’m not replying you again so don’t bother replying too.

I have better people to converse with than wasting my time on an Ibo person.

Have a nice day!

She isn't an Igbo, please go through her old posts. Please don't drag the Igbos into your arguments with her.

Grayoso:
Don't waste your time responding to Igbos. They routinely wish the worst for the Yorubas without understanding that perception is everything in life. How others perceive you is very important.

The perception the world has of Yorubas, Fulani/Hausa and Igbos is very different. Yorubas are the most strategically and socio-economically important ethnic group in Nigeria to the Western world. This is the simple reality egoistic Igbos won't want to accept.

We can and will defend ourselves but we know we won't be deserted either, like others, because we are never the aggressors. We have never declared conflict against others.

We have never shown an oppressive, domineering, ethnic cleansing or expansionist agenda towards anyone.

We have, throughout her entire history, being Nigeria's most stable, peace-loving, tolerant and diplomatic people.

I wasn't downgrading or wishing evil to befall any tribe/region, I was only trying to be realistic. I have/hold no grudges against any tribe or region I was only trying to use facts to make a statement.
Stop trying to make it a war of tribes, when we were only analysing available data, it doesn't have to be "me against you" every time.

Sammy07:
Well, If Biafra war was mainly between Igbo's and core Fulanis.
Biafra would won.

These Fulanis don't have the number
They don't have the brain
They don't have the strength
They don't have the money.


Abeq forget.
We are Yorubas.
We are a Major tribe that won't be treated as trash

Biafra would have won, no doubt but the Fulanis received some support.
Now, I am not talking of the British or the Soviets, I am talking of the Nigeriens, the Chadians, the Malians, and all other Fulani majority country that border Nigeria or are in West Africa. The Fulanis have the money to fund a war, that's one thing you don't understand.
This guys will always be a deciding factor in the event of any war, who will support the Yorubas in Africa if a war breaks out?

I never said the Yorubas aren't a major tribe or they can be run over easily.

ceaser:
Have you checked out Central African Republic (CAR) story? The Fulanis played the same script in CAR as they are currently playing in Nigeria. It took less than a week for the Fulani president to be dethroned by the people after the national guards were overrun.

The fulanis only have their men occupy the top position in the army, just a miniscule number and maybe like 100 officers at most. The war will be fought by the foot soldiers and a few fulanis are among those. Other regions too have their own sons occupy top positions in the army though strategically in much reduced numbers than the fulanis, but that notwithstanding you need just one man to upturn things for the fulanis.

By the time things get awry (the fulanis better pray it doesn't get to that extent and they should act right to make sure events don't deteriorate to such extent), the false security they have will collapse right before their eyes. #EndSars shows a bit of how state power (achieved by the use of police and the army) can fall within seconds when a resolute people decide to take down their tormentors.

Or why d'you think Aisha Buhari fled Aso Rock to resettle in Dubai after the #EndSars protests?

The Fulanis don't occupy only the top position in the military, they also have their kin in large amounts in the military.
The case of CAR was more of a religious situation, than one of ethnicity or tribe. Also, the situation of most of the large military hardware in their region will give an upper hand in the event of any war.
What happened during the #EndSars more of anarchy/mini revolution and not a conventional war. In the event of a conventional war, no region/tribe in Nigeria can face the Fulanis, this people have planned for this a long time ago.

Sammy07:
Well if we get to the bridge we will cross it.

They've never won a war against Yorubas.
And they will never will

War isn't about being hopeful, it involves proper planning. This people you want to take on have planned for this day for long, and have mechanisms in place to ensure their victory.
In my spare time, I read about failed countries who couldn't secede and they have one thing they share is the "failure to prepare".
I have gone through so many documents including some classified one's like messages (both sent and received) about the Biafran war, and one thing that was clear was their failure to prepare which led to their defeat.

Sammy07:
One thing is war cannot meet us suddenly.
And modern weapons can be built within the fastest space of time with many tech gurus in west.
Even if its not possible.
It can be imported.

We have the borders (Oyo, Ogun, Kwara)
And the sea (Lagos, Ondo and Ogun)

We've have experience in war.
I believe we won't do bad

You can import all this weapons you talk of if there is no blockade. When it also comes to building of weapons, you will most likely build crude weapons because you can't set up factories on short notice.
Also, I would want to believe that the military structure will consist of mainly ground forces, so what about air power, and who mans the warplanes if they're eventually built or bought? This same question also applies to having a Naval warships to protect your sea borders.
I believe no region can go to war with the Fulanis as they have majority of their kin in the military, and also most of the military weapons situated in the North. I don't even think an alliance between all other regions in Nigeria can subdue them, they have envisioned this day for long and are well prepared for it.

Sammy07:
One thing is war cannot meet us suddenly.
And modern weapons can be built within the fastest space of time with many tech gurus in west.
Even if its not possible.
It can be imported.

We have the borders (Oyo, Ogun, Kwara)
And the sea (Lagos, Ondo and Ogun)

We've have experience in war.
I believe we won't do bad

You can import all this weapons you talk of if there is no blockade. When it also comes to building of weapons, you will most likely build crude weapons because you can't set up factories on short notice.
Also, I would want to believe that the military structure will consist of mainly ground forces, so what about air power, and who mans the warplanes if they're eventually built or bought? This same question also applies to having a Naval warships to protect your sea borders.
I believe no region can go to war with the Fulanis as they have majority of their kin in the military, and also most of the military weapons situated in the North. I don't even think an alliance between all other regions in Nigeria can subdue them, they have envisioned this day for long and are well prepared for it.

Sammy07:
Its been for ages bro.
Reason why there is always a generalism of Yoruba.
Which the current holder is Gani Adams

How prepared are they for a war? Do they have modern weapons, aside guns?
Although, it is still good to know that not all ancient military structures collapsed. I have started reading about them, especially the exploits of the OPC in the late 90s and that of Agbekoya in the late 60s.

Wow, so the Yorubas have a standing Army. This is interesting I like the fact that they never allowed the military structure of their kingdom fall.

BSdetector:
Your granddad

Stfu afonja, he learnt it from the useless ewedu Oba Adeniran.
Onye ofemm@nu go to school you would not, it's grandad and not 'granddad'.

The Garden City ❤.

Yoruba1stson:
aah aah e pain the descendant of ape. You are animals and we will send you back to the forest, you are a disgrace to us and we don't mind if they shoot all potopotorians people seeing dealing with drugs abroad on their flathe@ds.
spit on cursed tribe

King of rituals, hope you haven't used your family members for ritual.