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All these attempts to cos a rift in the Presidency will fall like placards!

Systematic failure of all previous government. I mean if time to time maintenance and rehabilitation have been carried out over the years. This long closure would have been needless.

ayokellany:
Dude you can not force your jaundiced opinion on people here. Kemen did wrong n will only end up in jail if he tries to sue BBNaija. As someone who does not dig TBoss we personally might have exploited/violated friends around us but that those not justify what Kemen did. What is wrong is wrong. Concerning ruining is career the dude is a shameless clown that needs to learn how to control his urge.

Dude... I don't care how u guys twist the narrative. And i don't have to get in line with ur wacked opinion. U say urs, i say mine!

ba7man:
Consent doesn't have to involve asking directly. Body language is also a way of decoding consent.

If Kemen had held T-boss close to his body in bed and she snuggled up to him...... he stroked her hair and she relaxed in his arms....... she turns and faces him still close to his chest.......he kisses her and she kisses back....he touches her and she holds him tight......yes, he can proceed and he won't currently be in trouble.

But instead, he woke up, looked around and tried to do somthings to a girl that he wasn't aware if she was asleep or not.

Man, that's classless and perverted, do you just try to finger a sleeping girl immediately........ or you try to subtly wake her up and get her to relax with you before making a move on her?

If you do the former, its classified as perversion.

I wonder if u all have Infrared eyes u all used to see the "fingering"

Even the "victim" said it appeared to be. I wonder when Tboss drank so much that she wouldn't notice "fingering" at all. She was still playing with the guy in the morning before BB buhaha. Then she tried to whip up sentiments by claiming what will her father have been thinking and i keep wondering what her father was also thinking when she was displaying "live" breasts. The white witch is a slimy manipulative person. Until i see a video of Kemem forcing himself on her....cos all i saw is Tboss turning her back on him...that is too mild if a babe actually felt harrashed. If she had told him to get out of her bed, or told hin down in clear terms and he still forced himsef, its a different thing entirely. They have groped in bed before and have actually collected a massage from the same guy before. All these gross exergerations and twisting of narrative is just hypocritical.

massingale:
Hey! Do you know Spiff in 'The Johnsons' comedy series? If no, try and check his character in the series, then you'll know what I mean.
I've been following your threads and you've been off-points all along.

And u are following me up and down? Something must be seriously wrong with u.

poshestmina:
lol...u are not the one in the center here bro ,Tboss and Kemen are and you sound really dumb . You don't have to ask for permission to touch a woman but atleast wait for when she's not vulnerable .that's the point!

So Tboss waa vulnerable? Enjoy! Hypocritical clowns!

RaggedyAnn:
Touching someone sexually without their consent is wrong, (full stop!) If you have been doing it to people, or if you have had it done to you, then be educated about it - it's a gross violation of your body. It is such a sad sad thing that so many Nigerians do not even understand what Kemen did wrong, and it speaks to the culture of the people. It is no wonder there is little outrage over children getting molested on the streets and in their homes, while the perpetrators find the guts to claim "they wanted it". It's no wonder there is little outrage over girls getting raped a few times too many, and too many women get beaten up in marriages for refusing to have sex.

Every person has an inalienable right to dignity of their human person, just by being born a human being. If a person is forced into any action he/she is unwilling to do, if a person is subjected to humiliation, if a person is held in servitude to another, all without consent, it violates their fundamental right. Rape is a violation of that right. Rape isn't damaging because sex is physically painful; it is damaging because it takes away the control/ownership over one's body, even for that brief moment the repercussions are devastating and victims are left with a lesser sense of self. They are broken, sometimes beyond repair.

It is important to get consent if you want to avoid a lawsuit. Consent must be explicit and it cannot be given by a minor, a mentally unfit person, or a sleeping body. Tboss refused to kiss Kemen even in the truth or dare games, she was clear about the fact that she did not like him. And after she told him this in no uncertain terms in a general forum initiated by Debie-Rise, he finally promised to give up his pursuit. And then he went and did this, sticking his hand beneath her covers. His intentions were clearly dubious - when he looked around prior to the act, he didn't leave much room for interpretation. Now people want him to sue? Kemen will know better. He should hope he doesn't get sued for assault. All it takes is one unwanted finger in a place it does not belong.

Big brother may have been written off as an immoral show, but if it can demonstrate that there is a difference between consensual sex and sexual assault by disqualifying Kemen, then it does indeed have moral value to offer to our hypocritical and highly immoral society.

Emotional BS!

Keep living in self deceit!

martineverest:
not surprised at all..... Empty headed illiterates with no sense

U have not made any sense...or make any constructive arguments ever since. All u do is curse and swear like the kid u are. When men talk, kids learn. Sit back and learn....these HOs aren't worth it!

schumastic:
bro just one ? i want to ask u.

imagine u crushing on a girl n u made your intentions known to her n she said no u are not her kind of man n she can't v anything to do with u n u accept..
few days latr u both got high n everybody went to bed, only for u to leave ur own bed downstairs to hers, after which u start pressing her boobs n then put your hand to her v n she wakes up, see that is u n turned around n continued her sleep.

this is my ?

her turning around isn't it enough sign that she is not interested if yes have u molested her?
pls i would like u to answer da ? without being biased.thank u

o, before i forget have u asked yourself this ? why didn't kemen continued the pre-intimacy after she turned around, bcus he knew very well she didn't want him n to avoid any embarrassment from her @ da moment he left her alone.

U guys can twist the narrative all u want to suit your disgusting hate for the guy.
Tboss was not and never drunk.....
If u have little experience... Whatever happened that night was a normal thing. I observed most of u are kids or adults that have never done women...or that are too scared of women. I.mean na today woman dey carry hand comot body...when the thing Dey seeet am? Yeah..she can turn her back if not interested or too tired...what i want to see is a video if the accused forcing himself....and the "VICTIM" fighting back. When did Tboss drink and got so drunk she didn't realise anything? Less i forget, that was not the first time of both groping in bed, and she once allowed a massage. So wtf are u talking about?

martineverest:
rape runs in your genes...... That fact that u opened your door carelessly doesn't permit a rightful entrance to your house

Run along..go meet ur play mates. Men are talking!

ohasoup9:
Why won't you ask? Even if she is your wife, you don't force it!

If only u can show me a vidoe of the "FORCE".

Oh..u will ask ur wife i want to have sex with u befoe u proceed

INTERESTING

KennyID17:
Everywhere we go on dus matter, na consent this consent that. Person dey touch u (according to popular belief) u wake up, raise d bed sheet u see Weytin dey happen all u did was turn, no reaction no vexing mo nothing. Next thing na rape all of Una dey shout. And for those of u saying bassey consented to Debby kissing him, Una b hypocrites. I would saying again, d reason y all of Una dey clamour Ontop kemen head is that y'all just hate/dislike d nigga.

Gbam!

martineverest:
ode... U are a rapist in the the making

Mr holier than thou.

When u want to fu*k. Ask ur GF can i touch ur clit, can i touch ur boobs ....

Clowns....!

massinola:
You guys are just too impossible. Go back to Debie Rise vs Bassey video, you will find out Bassey was fast asleep. Debie has tried several times to get intimate with Bassey even during parties but Bassey has always resisted her. She did it while Bassey was asleep. The question still remains, does it mean the invisible BigB didn't see that? Why did he not call Bassey to ask if he consented to that? Many unanswered questions. You are telling me you can be fingered without waking up? Haba! Na wood you be? The whole bigbrother thing is turning as if stage managed

My brother forget this useless disgusting hypocrites. That white witch will be evicted soon too.....
Her games will catch up with her!

yelinco1:
WHY THEN IS NIGERIANS DENIED ENTRY AND THEIR VISA COUNCELED THEN RETURNED BACK TO 9JA WITH THE THE NEXT FLIGHT? I JUST HATE THAT US SHA. NA ONLY THEIR GREEN CARD GO MAKE ME LIKE THAT COUNTRY I SWEAR.

Don't believe all those poo People circulate around.

martineverest:
my guy, your level of understanding is too low, abeg

K

All i know is Tboss was were aware of her surroundings.

U are a small boy that have not seen anything with women!

Werehkpe:
First thing you should think about is CONSENT. When Kemen was fingering TBoss, was it with her consent or not. If she did not consent to it, then Kemen has to go. Thats close to rape.

Second, its an immoral show though some might want to debate this. But as in the case of TTT and Bisola, was there consent between both parties? The answer was yes.

So really Big Brother is justified in his decision to disqualify Kemen

Third, for people suggesting that Kemen should sue Big Brother, I wonder how that idea came from? In truth Big Brother and TBoss should be the ones sueing Kemen and not the other way round. After all its Kemen who is in the wrong here since he had no consent from TBoss

Sorry oooo...

Are u a male or female.

If u are a male, how many girls have u seeked their consent before fingering them?

If u are a female, how many men have asked u, baby can i finger u?

Useless hypocrites!

martineverest:
don't forget she was drunk

Drunk cos she said so?

poshestmina:
Thank you dear.i wonder what this world is turning to .handling a tipsy\sleeping woman is different from having sex or giving a head with both people's consent ...70% of this guys making rape sound like the new cool are potential rapists .God save our generation!

Total BS!

How many guys asked for your permission before touching u?
Like Poshestmina or whatever u call ursef....can i touch ur clit?

U babes are emotionally hypocritical clowns

If i may i ask, how many times have u pretended to be sleeping while u are enjoying the touching..?.

I think I should have Toke, Bami and the likes arrested for throwing themselves at me and practically harassing me in the name of being drunk.....

Its ok when its the babes! Tmr u want gender equality.


Shior!!!

Working to contain fallout

The newly crafted order also revealed that the administration wasn't just paying attention to the legal criticism in the courts, but also recalibrating in light of the heavy political fire they faced after the first order's messy rollout.

While administration lawyers argued the original travel ban went into effect immediately to prevent terrorists from rushing into the country, the revised ban will phase in after 10 days. The previous order will be rescinded on that date.
Trump had previously said he opposed giving any advance notice of the ban.

"If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the "bad" would rush into our country during that week. A lot of bad "dudes" out there!" he tweeted on January 30.

The White House also abandoned the sense of urgency with which it implemented the first travel ban, delaying the signing of a new executive order multiple times over the last three weeks. Politics also came into play as White House officials delayed the signing from last Wednesday in part to allow positive coverage of the President's joint address to Congress to continue uninterrupted.
"We want the (executive order) to have its own 'moment,'" a senior administration official told CNN last week.

The President signed the action Monday morning without the fanfare he has given to other executive orders. No media was present during the signing at the White House, an administration official confirmed. White House spokesman Sean Spicer tweeted a picture of Trump signing the order.

White House officials collaborated for several weeks with officials at the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and kept congressional leaders apprised of their progress this time around after the White House drew a backlash for keeping Congress and relevant federal agencies almost entirely in the dark during the first rollout.

To bolster its national security claims, the new executive order also states FBI has reported that approximately 300 people who entered the United States as refugees are "currently the subjects of counter-terrorism investigations."

"The fact remains that we are not immune to terrorist threats and that our enemies often use our own freedoms and generosity against us," Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said. "We cannot risk the prospect of malevolent actors using our immigration system to take American lives."
Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence committee, said the ban "has the same fundamental flaws" as the first order.

"We know that country of origin is a poor predictor of a propensity to commit acts of terror. If it were, Pakistan has been a far more problematic source of attack planning and would be at the top of the President's list, but that country merits not even a mention in the order," Schiff said in a statement.

President Donald Trump signed a new executive order Monday banning immigration from six Muslim-majority countries, notably dropping Iraq from January's previous order.

The new travel ban comes six weeks after Trump's original executive order was rolled out to chaos and confusion at airports nationwide, and eventually blocked by a federal court.

The new version exempts people who hold current visas and drops an indefinite ban on Syrian refugees, reducing it to 120 days. It also makes clear that lawful permanent residents are excluded from ban.

"We cannot compromise our nation's security by allowing visitors entry when their own governments are unable or unwilling to provide the information we need to vet them responsibly, or when those governments actively support terrorism." Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday.
The ban covers Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen.
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Iraq's removal from the list came after an intense review from the State Department to improve vetting of Iraqi citizens in collaboration with the Iraqi government.
"The United States welcomes this kind of close cooperation," he said. "This revised order will bolster the security of the united states and our allies."

The rollout of the revised travel ban marks an important moment for the administration, which has little room for error after the chaotic debut of the original plan. That failure raised questions about the new White House's capacity to govern and to master the political intricacies needed to manage complicated political endeavors in Washington. It also brought Trump into conflict with the judiciary in the first sign of how constitutional checks and balances could challenge his vision of a powerful presidency built on expansive executive authority.

Why Iraq was removed

But the new order was also delayed in part because of a debate within the administration over how to handle Iraq.
Tillerson, Secretary of Defense James Mattis and national security adviser Gen. H.R. McMaster had all advocated for Iraq to be removed from the Trump administration's list of banned countries in the new executive order for diplomatic reasons, including Iraq's role in fighting ISIS, sources told CNN's Elise Labott and Evan Perez. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly also supported the move.

Iraq was removed from the revised travel ban executive order after intensive lobbying from the Iraqi government at the highest levels, according to a senior US official.
That included a phone call between Trump and Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on February 10 and an in-person conversation between Abadi and Vice President Mike Pence in Munich on February 18.

Those conversations were followed by discussions between Tillerson and members of the Iraqi government about vetting measures in place that would prevent suspected terrorists from leaving Iraq and coming to the United States. Iraq did not implement new measures; rather, the country provided more detail to US officials about how it screens travelers.
In Trump's call with Abadi, the President vowed to seek a resolution to his counterpart's concerns about his citizens' being unable to enter the United States, according to a readout of the phone call from Baghdad. The US official said Trump asked Tillerson to get greater clarity on vetting measures in Iraq.
Trump also faced pressure to remove Iraq from the order from some American national security officials, who argued the restriction burdened a key anti-ISIS partner. Some of those voices were holdovers from the Obama administration.
Iraq's Foreign Ministry welcomed reports of its removal from the list of countries affected by the travel ban.

"(The) Iraqi Foreign Ministry expresses deep relief regarding the executive order that was issued by the American president Donald Trump, which excludes the Iraqis from the travel ban to the United States," said Iraqi Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Ahmad Jamal. "This is considered an important step in the right direction that strengthen and reinforces the strategic alliance between Baghdad and Washington in many fields, in particular the fight against terrorism."
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/06/politics/trump-travel-ban-iraq/index.html

DzTzl:
Really!! im done trashing out this issue between Kemen & Tboss on IG already, dre s no need to lose strength further but for you to call women senseless hypocrite shows your level of reasoning & I am ashamed!

Get lost!

U see this bunch of idiotic fools deceiving themselves

TBoss told the housemates about the video Big Brother showed her, she says it looked like she was being fingered and she immediately wondered what her father would be thinking

Can someone tell us what her father was thinking when she was showing "live" breasts.

According to her it appeared he was fingering her, so even BB and She herself didn't even know what he was actually doing. This guy has a case against BB if he is very smart.

The poor guy only did what any hypocritical guy condeming him have dobe or would have done when with a female crush on the bed. Going by this hypocritical judgement, over 70% of guys shouod be arrested for sexaul molestation too.


Useless hypocritical bastards.

7Alexander:
Seun lalasticlala, Nairaland should stop tagging this guy a 'sexual harasser'!!!

You are deliberately harming a fellow man's image and that is evil and unacceptable

And he is not even one!

tribalistseun:
Forget am judging base on what bigbrother told Bisola, Bisola said on the dinning that what kemen did was very bad that biggie won't want any other person to see it. but kemen stood up from his bed, checked all the cameras to see if they are facing him, but he didn't know that there are cameras in the windows and mirror too in the house. so he crept to her and start fingering her. yes, we know its a romance show too, but you have to do it with your partner's consent. just like Bisola and TTT fingering every night. forget bloggers they are looking for clicks to make money. Na the work wey we dey do

Mtcheeeew. Total BS!

Did the "Victim" complain to BB?

Silly story.

The guy did only what every hypocritical guy bashing him have dine or would have done when in bed with a female crush.

That wasn't thr first time they are on the same bed.

Besides are we talking of someone who have shown us her "live " breasts on TV?

Nonsene!

chiedu7:
We know that Zombies will never get it.

This is just an attempt to pain the man black.
See the post below where the lady say's Suleiman is Innocent.

https://www.nairaland.com/3666255/stephanie-otobo-apostle-suleman-innocent

Get a brain please.

Mental slavery at its peak. Spits**

chemberlin:
In Efe 's word( use ur kidney) she didnt know about anything it was BB that called her attention to it..so don't say what u don't know u poo

How does this change the fact that i didn't see any molestation in the video. I only saw 2 adults on the same bed and the male making moves like every other hypocritical male we don when with a babe on the bed! I think u should use ur liver instead.

tribalistseun:
No the main incident wasn't even televised. people are digging out kemen old videos attempt on her

Lol.
So where did u see ur own video to know the extent of molestation, cos every one seems to see exactly what happened while u are saying the opposite

MaziOmenuko:
She didn't try as much as possible to refute the story, just saying she didnt know who Festus was and that her poor parents can't make 1% of that money. Pick the story apart and refute every part of it from the illicit affair, to the pregnancy.

Thats how to refute a story.

I trust sahara reporters, they have other back-up evidences they publish once you refute their story.

Ask Dino and Okpolo-eyed Denziani.

Something is really fishy. More revelations coming out soon!

tribalistseun:
dont be deceived, BigBrother hasn't released the main clip yet. cos it's too embarrassing for kemen. You're seeing one of his many attempts. but Saturday night offense was bad.

Is it Bigbrother that has been releasing other videos

megareal:
Much as I believe the Man of God is innocent, I would love a more appropriate way of debunking this claim from the lady.

A statement that clarifies everything. This one raises too many questions.

Which Man of God....

As in ehn.....

This is even not a "debunk"

She obviously knows Sulieman.

Festus a known lawyer will not be stupid enough to make such cliams without proof!

The innocent girl doesn't just want to be overwhelmed!