₦airaland Forum

senatordave1:
This is not a political matter,its something that is older than both apc and pdp and two of us.if you know me well in this forum,you will know that I love igbos.

By the way,Niger delta republic would have happened if we ss had half agitated as you guys did for Biafra.

Even a toddler knows that the army carries more weight than police.between buratai and the igp,who carries more influence?

Relax!
The oil that keeps the wheel of Nigeria running is mostly from the SS; achieve the easier resource control (from other Nigerians) first before dabbling into agitation to break the property of Her Royal Majesty, without her consent.

Christistruth00:
W.U Bassey was Commissioned 2 months before Ironsi . Ogundipe (not Ademulegun) was Commissioned on the same day as Ironsi. Bassey had joined the Army a good 7 years before Ironsi. If Bassey's Promotions were not delayed he world have been eligible to be Head of the Army and be Governor of the Eastern Region before Ironsi and Ojukwu . I love all Nigerians but Tribalism is evil and has cost us a Civil War already. Bassey's problem was that he was considered to be an Eyo-Ita man because he was from Calabar like him. Zik and his NCNC Ministers preferred Ironsi though they both came from the East and and they influenced the NPC/NCNC coalition Government in favour of Ironsi . Bassey's was abandoned by Zik and his Career suffered a lot. Zik should otherwise have been pushing for Bassey's timely Promotions. But to his credit Zik had expected Ironsi to appoint Bassey Governor of the Eastern Region as a consolation and not Ojukwu .

First of all, Ironsi was never a governor.
2ndly, Bassey was as much an Easterner as Zik and Ironsi.
Stop talking about a sAbOtAgE that does not exist.

Where did u get this sAbOtAgE narrative from?
Name the specific (promotional) exams (and the year) which Zik denied Bassey.

Dtribeless:
But balkanization will never work non-violently, we will all become small entities. Some of us might live better, but we'd also be smaller with less clout. Yorubas have been asking for restructuring forever. Please don't say Tinubu brought Buhari into power. He does not even speak for the Yoruba intellectual base, but the intellectual base do NOT have thugs. Tinubu cannot win a fair election in Lagos state; the intelligentsia know better.
Yorubas complain, but not in the Kanu style of insulting everyone.
Even if we break up, that will stop the suspicion issue, which is largely created by elites of all ethnicity to keep us barking at each other (as often happens on this site), but they'd still be plundering treasuries for their family and selves per usual. Are Igbo governors/leaders less prone to stealing than governors of other ethnicity? So that will still be an issue, but you're right the suspicions issue will reduce.

As an example, if Oduduwa breaks, the Lagos & Ogun axis will instantly claim superiority, and division will continue per usual. So, my brother, it's elites vs masses; hausa masses are suffering too but religion keeps those ones going. Apologies if I have sounded hostile earlier; I confused you for an extremist.

I'm glad u got my point and I understand u perfectly; actually, I have always made it clear that what we are experiencing is a class war -
"the haves" have been messing "the have-nots" up since time immemorial - but in our case, the "have-nots" have been too divided to understand the game; if we can take away a lot of those differences keeping "the have-nots" down, people (the have-nots) would be waken from their slumber, and would naturally revolt against "the haves" in their independent little states.

For instance, it would be easier to peacefully protest against bad governance in an Igbo-only society, when those who are in the armed forces are fellow Ndigbo, who wouldn't delight in shooting fellow citizens like it is mere sport, as obtainable in Nigeria.

Nnamdi Kanu may be brash and all whatnot, but men, the thought of the hopelessness of Nigeria makes me blind to his flaws.
I swear! I would rather a landlocked Alaigbo than this present cesspool; that is how hopeless Nigeria is.

Yujin:
Lies, lies, lies. Bassey, Ironsi and Ademulegun were commissioned the same year 1949 though he joined the army in 1936.
Ziks excerpt you posted dwelt solely on the perceived misappointment of Ojukwu by Ironsi as the Military Governor of the Eastern region instead of the other his seniors from the region. It has nothing to do with why Ironsi emerged ahead of Bassey as the GOC of the Nigerian Army.
We're very vigilant today.

That dude is confusional!
He is deliberately mixing things up, using a real historical occurrence to try to give credibility to his blatant lies.

How evil, people can be!

Christistruth00:
If Wellington Bassey's career had not been sabotaged by Zik and his NCNC Ministers in order to produce Ironsi as head of Army he would have been head of the Army in Jan 1966 and the Coups and Civil War would not have happened. His promotional trainings were delayed to make sure Ironsi ended up as head of the Army Zik and his Ministers didn't trust the Calabar man to be in charge of the Army .Zik later complained that Gen Ironsi should have made W.Bassey's Governor of the Eastern Region and not Ojukwu who was by far his Junior.

The same Zik who (according to you) sAbOtAgEd Bassey's career, was also the same Zik who complained that Bassey, instead of Ojukwu should have been made governor of the Eastern region by Ironsi?

Hmm!
Bro, don't u think Covid-organics should suffice?

Dtribeless:
I'm not envious of Igbos, just calling out the IPOB extremists. Their nonsense will lead to further marginalization or genocide of well meaning Igbos. BTW, like all other Africans, including Yorubas and Hausas, there is nothing special about Igbos. They are still part of a very backward Black race. It's like last and second to the last fighting for superiority. Take that to the bank.

I don't think it's about being "superior," as no Igbo has claimed of being superior to anyone; I think it's more of being more conscious.

It's a fact that only Ndigbo seem to be seriously worried about the backwardness and stagnancy of Nigeria (even with all her minerals, ocean, human resources), hence, their desire to want out.
Almost every other group seem to be cool or indifferent with the state of things in Nigeria.
106yrs after amalgamation, 60yrs after independence, it's a fact that there is no love among the peoples of this country, all I see is mutual suspicion and backbiting WRT ethnic nationality.
A lot of Ndigbo are convinced the only solution from this cesspool is total balkanisation; it's a shame seeing people who benefit absolutely nothing from this cesspit trying to chastise Ndigbo for something as noble as seeking freedom.

You don't like them, and the feeling seems mutual, yet u seem cool to pretend to be compatriots with them; this one is worse than stockholm syndrome.

This looks too good.

DexterousOne:
This one has brought tribalism into the discussion

When will you people have sense for goodness sake?

The worse is, when they bring up tribalism and get tribal reactions, they use the tribal reactions (they instigated) to push their narrative.

Petty minds.

Throwback:
You mean lack of foresight due to unbridled ambition is class?

Awolowo used his position in Gowon's government to ensure the East Central state got all of its allocations that accrued during the war, and ensured that loan schemes were available to the Easterners in their own region after the war.

You should be happy that a liberal mind like Awolowo was in that government, else we would have been going to the museum to see the remainder population of an endangered tribe.

Once Awolowo's patriotic mission was over, he resigned from the Gowon government to lead a demand for an end to military rule.

Yorubas have no complaint about his role in the affairs of the tribe, and Nigeria that he served only have commendations and praise for his service.

As for the conquered rebels who had no choice but to make an unconditional surrender, they continue to lick their wounds.

Don't ask me not to go there when I was born there.

Reading folks on this thread, one would think there is a consensus by all people to be on their own and do whatever pleases each group on their own space.

You don't like these people, vice-versa; but only one group is willing to bring down the heavens to make sure people who don't like one another pretend to be compatriots.
This one is worse than stockholm syndrome.

omonnakoda:
The credibility problem Ibos have is when stuff like this happens they support it or keep quiet.
Imagine someone joined an organisation in 2001 claiming that he had a Phd.

A so called first class graduate of UNN going to do a Phd in University of Abomey ? Abomey? Beni Republic.

Next it turned out he never defended his thesis but on the strength of that Phd rose to become the DG of FIIRO.

This was discovered and he now comes back with another document dated 2020 to say he defended the 2001 thesis AFTER 19 years.

How can any Minister with ethics then say he should be reinstated AS DG?

With due respect, u're not smart!
I have never read any Igbo defending Onu on this very thread; if anything, it is folks like u who are busy trying to distract attention from the topic (making it an ethnic thing), trying to bash an ethnic nation, so in reaction pple from that ethnic group would bash u back and then u bask in ur belief that they are defending Onu.

If u abused an ethnic nation, u wud be abused back; no, it's not support for Onu! It's a reaction to ur petulant distraction.

seunmsg:
Onu is Igbo so I’m not surprised. This is the same country where Adeosun was hounded out of office because of an irrelevant NYSC certificate.

Chima Igwe forged a PHD attestation to get rapidly promoted since 2002. He did not complete the PhD program until 2020, 18 years later. Demoting him shouldn’t even be an option in the first place, he should have been dismissed outrightly. But no, his Igbo brother want to keep him in office as DG of a federal research agency. The same people who cry about merit everyday are the ones doing everything to destroy merit in the public service.

This is how some of u mess things up; what Onu is doing is an indictment on the part of the government Onu serves, the last time I checked, Onu is not a minister of an "Igbo People Party/Government"; but ur nOnTrIbAl MiNd can only think of the ethnic group of people involved, and when people from that group react for wrongly calling them out, ur NOnTrIbAl MiNd would see it as an evidence that IgBo PeOpLe support the actions of Onu.
This is how stereotypes work.

Every sane mind should be calling for the enthronement of a merit-based system, stop using the action of Onu to castigate the somewhat only group calling for meritocracy in this country, and inadvertently indicting the right calls for the enthronement of a merit-based system.

Merit and competition are good ingredients for development; no country develops via quota system.
Fix ur eyes on the ball and stop being unnecessarily petty.

sanctity454:
Imolites whom are billionaires are not trying at all i mean non of them, they ought to lead the way in this regards then other nigeria will follow.
It took a fulani man from kwara to open refinery business, while a former governorship aspirant is building the same in lagos.
In wealthy imolites eyes, imo state is unfit for serious investment.

Ahswear! Captain Iheanacho is a funny man; Imo is good enough to be ruled by him, but not fit enough to site his investment.

sanctity454:
Seplat has 700 million usd gas plant project but i don't know about nestoil

Where is it (Seplat gas plant) sited?

ScotMisile:
5th for now,while Seplat, Walter Smith Modular refinery, Shell,maybe Nestoil too and others materialises their gas projects.
Did you know Imo State has the highest gas deposit in Nigeria?

I know of WalterSmith modular refinery and Shell gas; are Seplat and Nestoil presently carrying out any projects in Imo State?

honeyB2018:
If this becomes a reality, I will urge the Christian leaders to demand that all churches be opened for worship any where in Nigeria

I pity you!
So if folks in Kano decide to be suicidal, you want to join them too?

The only thing I want is for folks in Kano to be contained in Kano; the LEA should take the enforcement of the no inter-state movements seriously.

Maadoo:
At the same time, part of the rules of the group was no tribal labeling or hate.

She broke her own rule

Oh! I see.

ObafemiAwoIowo:
bro this is the beginning of her downfall if she doesn't act fast and tender unreserved apology
it's like you don't know how social media works
this is what gave him the popularity and it's been attacked through it left right and center by not one but millions of people

for her hosting company to suspend her website shows how serious it is.

obviously she allowed her emotions in her biggest establishment and business
that's number 1 rules of business
don't attach sentiments.
a simple apology would have gone a long way

but in everything I urge the igbos to Mello down
this is harsh

Come to think of it, I thought her facebook group page - RantHq - made it clear the group is for nitwits who can take every form of nonsense and just "walka pass."
Why are people outraged by the nonsense she posted?

U're in a group where foolishness is the norm, ur colleague decides to display foolishness, why the outrage?

bamite:
Ipob miscreants will soon invade this thread and masturbate their lives out now. Smh

Ur fellow citizens are being killed right now, and this is the only thing that came up ur EMPATHETIC mind?

I don't envy ur life!

Adefatima:
And who were the natives that worked with colonial government in Lagos ? Igbos ? Or the returned yoruba ex slaves who also built some architecture that last till date ?
Have you no heard of Souza, Fernandez, Rochas ,Da Silva of Lagos smh

You must love ur own fart a lot; who am I to stop u?
Continue!

Adefatima:
Are you not aware Lagos colony was separate so effectively Lagos built its port itself and who were the habitants of Lagos then ? No be until later igbos see big city Lagos after Samuel Ajayi gave you your first Igbo bible

Like seriously?

Yes, Lagos was a separate COLONY!
But it was called a COLONY for a reason.

told you it was built by the COLONIAL (from the word COLONY) masters, and all u could counter with, is Lagos being a separate COLONY?
Like, how does that change anything? SMH!

Gabkosh:
[s][/s]Shhhhhhhi, when you are ready, inform me.

Nah, I'll never be ready; u're too far far UP the abyss

gwafaeziokwu:
There are more than 40million Igbos world wide. Kanu cannot be the goal keeper, defender, midfielder and striker all at once. He has chosen a cause. You are a full fledge Igbo man. Pick up your own cause.

You want every enviable trait of leadership rolled into one in Kanu but you are wrong. Kanu is not the messiah. He must not necessarily lead Biafra, but he has the right nuisance strategy to keep all attention to himself while the so called elites do the brain work. He is the greatest weapon Igbo elites have to negotiate with the centre ,unfortunately we are not blessed with real elder statesmen as politicians. Majority of our political leaders are political contractors who have no business representing the Igbo nation but inadvertently leading us because the Nigerian structure is skewed to favour mediocrity in all spheres.

He has a job and he is doing it mightily. Are you doing your own job? Are our governors doing their own jobs? Are our Senators, clergy men,industry leaders doing theirs. Or are we all arm chair critics who are simply regurgitating the reservations of the same interest Kanu and indeed greater Igbo people do not wish to please. Choose a side!

This young man has not shot anyone dead before . He has not sent his members to massacre and cause trouble. All he has are his headphones and Internet access.

Nna, what is ur brand?
U deserve enough nkwu-enu and isiewu.

Gabkosh:
You are not intelligent enough for me to engage, you. If you want to engage me intelligently. Create new thread and tag me. Not on this particular one. Thanks.

Arrogantly ignorant!

Ya, intelligent people use gutter language WITHOUT reason, just like u did; I know u already!

gwafaeziokwu:
Search for a word
landlocked
/ˈlandlɒkt/
adjective
(of a country or region) almost or entirely surrounded by land.
"I was raised in landlocked Winnipeg"
(of a lake or harbour) enclosed by land and having no navigable route to the sea.
"a chain of landlocked lagoons"
(of a fish, especially a North American salmon) cut off from the sea in the past and now confined to fresh water.

Nwanne, I understand you; but if we are to use this logic, then no country is landlocked, including Lesotho, becos even Lesotho has access to the ocean via the Orange river.

Gabkosh:
[/s]Gbam, at the bolded. Nice you admitted. That what I want to read. I didn't border about the remaining hogwash. You can give that to your fellow broken heart Osus.

Oh! That's all u can come up with?
I thought u were interested in an intelligible discourse; but I see u're a troll.

Anyways, I'm only interested in trolls who are good at sarcasm; I understand it requires a lot of grey mater to be sarcastic.

I'm sorry u're not my kind of troll.

Gabkosh:
You be confirmed olodo, Mali and Niger have access to the sea through same river Niger as passage way. They must pass through Nigeria just as you must pass through Niger delta.


If the bolded is through, they tell us why Niger and Mali are not using the river for export and import.

Before u start sounding like a broken record, yes, the SE is landlocked.

But from what I have been reading from u, I think u are trying ur best to push a narrative with half-witted insinuations.

U keep asking why Niger and Mali don't use the River Niger to access the Atlantic, and someone rightly showed u the distance from Niger and Mali to the Atlantic Ocean (compared to the SE), yet u tried so hard to trash it.

U (and some other guy) have asked folks to prove that Niger and Mali make use of the River Niger; on the contrary, u should be the one proving that they were stopped from using the route, since people can decide not to take advantage of their powers, bearing in mind there are other factors to consider, like distance and cost compared to other alternatives.

There is a law guiding River Niger as an international waterway, that countries chose at their discretion not to take advantage of those laws does not void those laws; if (for reasons best known to u) u think the laws are unenforceable, then the onus lies on u to prove.

gwafaeziokwu:
Get your facts correct. The confluence of Obuaku and Imo river empties into the Atlantic, the same way BONNY river empty into the Atlantic.

Bonny river was dredge so that large vessel could pass through from the Atlantic into ONNE port. Now answer me is River landlocked the answer is NO!

Obuaku and Azumini (blue river) will need to be dredged to allow large vessels from the Atlantic to enter and berth at Obuaku or Azumini port.

Interesting the distance from ONNE port to Atlantic is 50 Nautical miles , while from Azumini to Atlantic is 25 Nautical miles.

Do not listen to propaganda.

Nwanne, things are not as simple as they seem.

Let me ask u a simple question:
Using ur logic, is there any landlocked country in the world?

Adefatima:
SE is landlocked period

U're a troll I suppose; well u said nothing different from what u quoted.

As an aside, to get my attention as a troll, u need to be good at sarcasm; though sarcasm is not for everyone, since one needs enough grey mater to be good at it; I understand ur plight.

helinues:
You are still dodging my question.

How can SE have access to the Sea/Ocean without crossing Nigeria border?

You as an Easterner, if you are traveling by land to Benin republic, you must pass through SW same as SWesterners traveling to North must pass through SS states.

SE is landlocked .. Simple as ABC

With due respect, ur geography seems poor.
Ekiti state (in the SW) has common boundary with Kwara (in the NC); I'm surprised as to how a SWesterner would need to go thru the geo-POLITICAL SS, when traveling to the North.

As for ur question regarding how the SE can access the Atlantic Ocean without passing through Nigeria border:
Look at it this way; if they put u in a boat at the Onitsha-part of River Niger (which is an international water body), and that boat keeps moving southwards, within minutes, u would find ursef in the Atlantic Ocean.
No land separation, nothing!

Though the SE is truly landlocked; and would be an enclave of Nigeria if independent, but I would rather an independent landlocked SE than present Nigeria.

NGpatriot:
You don't have beaches with white sand and you are not directly sitting in front of an ocean and the fact that you can paddle canoe from the SE to the Atlantic doesn't mean you are not landlocked.

Stop confusing yourselves with lies and deceptions.

There he goes..

I'm glad it's no longer, "what is the difference between Lesotho and SE (geo-POLITICAL) region?" at least, most of u must have learnt from my post u quoted.

As for the landlocked issue:
Yes, the SE (geo-POLITICAL) region is landlocked!
Yes, as an independent state, the SE would be an enclave of Nigeria!

But will an independent SE have access to the Atlantic? Certainly!

Boy, I would rather an independent SE (geo-POLITICAL) region, than present Nigeria; go figure!

Aladegba:
Igbo presidency, Igbo apologies after civil war, Igbo conspiracy, etc. One fact remains...the entire igboland is landlocked. What is the difference between Lesotho and south eastern Nigerian. If Igbo wanna be free, they must negotiate their freedom with the Niger Deltans which will end up at the doorstep of the yorubas and denied!!! What is the essence of freedom if it can never be achieved?

Difference between Lesotho and SE (Alaigbo is more complicated, hence, my use of the Nigeria-created SE geo-POLITICAL region).

Lesotho lies more than 2000km from the Atlantic Ocean (when navigated through the Orange river); SE is less than 60km from the Atlantic Ocean (as stated by the writer).

If it doesn't make any sense to u, then this topic is obviously not for u.

Sammy07:
Oh, thanks.
It's hard to differentiate you guys tho.

They are all the same to everyone else, but them.