₦airaland Forum

Arrewa:
you're free to continue deceiving yourself... You're 100% entitled to believe in whatever you want to believe

So after all your charade I exposed, u still think I'm "deceiving" myself?

Nigerien or not, it wouldn't stop them from voting as NIGERIANS; it wouldn't stop them from being counted as NORTH-EASTERN, NORTH-WESTERN NIGERIANS.

So why should I concern myself with their nationality when you use them as NIGERIANS when you want to cheat?

I think those deceiving themselves are those who after using these their brothers (separated by colonialism), for reasons best known to them, try to shove their NiGeRiEn nationality down our throat.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Sunshineg5:
Could you give list of civilians that were prosecuted after Nazi Germany collapsed?

Or have you forgotten that Germany was divided into two immediately after the war?

So how did prosecution take place?


And please involve election results as it is a true indicator of public sentiment.

In law, he who asserts, proves.
It is a known fact that EVERY MEMBER of the Nazi regime was prosecuted for their crimes against the Jews.

You believe otherwise:
You: Not all (assertion 1)

You: Civilians were spared (assertion 2)

Me: Please give me names of those civilians spared.

You again: Give me list of Civilians in the Nazi regime.

Are u serious?
U asserted there were civilians, I never made that claim; how can I now give u a list?
I thought u had something up ur sleeves.

As for elections, u have not thrashed this yet, u still want to compound the discourse with elections; that would be unnecessary distraction, sir.

Let's take them one after the other.

Arrewa:
Yes many of them voted... I'm just exposing unusual activities here... Instead of them to listen and know what's happening... Ignorance will not let them

They have free access to Nigeria, thanks to the North-East and North-West.
They speak ur language and adhere viciously to ur religious views

They help shore up ur population figures, hence:
Increase the number of states, LGAs and political representatives you have;
Increase your allocation from the federal government.

They help shore up your votes, giving ur candidates undue advantage in federal elections.

Presently, you are doing absolutely nothing to stop them; if anything, you want to create colonies for them.

Then somehow, after enjoying everything from them, u want us to be convinced they are your brothers from another country?
Nigerian or Nigerien, it makes no difference to us; u are all one, separated only by the vestige of colonialism.

Sunshineg5:
Anyone that was not a General or part of military was not prosecuted in Germany after Nazi fell.

Igbos voted Fulani that were the main brain behind your misfortune few years after the war. So why blame Yorubas again?

Could you please give me the name of any high-ranking civilian (if any) member of the Nazi cabinet that was spared?

PS
Don't distract this argument by bringing up what choices people make in DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS; that is a different story entirely?

Sunshineg5:
@ emboldened

Not true sir.

Who wasn't, sir?

Arrewa:
The news is FAkE...

Yarima never threatened any region!

Our youths here hardly travel to the south!

Southerners hardly differentiate between a Nigeriens and Hausafulanis...

They see every Hausa speaker as onye Hausa...

Hausa and French is Niger republic official languages

Is it possible that these NiGeRiEnS vote in the North during elections?

Sunshineg5:
Gowon was in charge sir, Gowon had all the power to act differently.

It was a military regime and Awolowo was not a military officer

If Awolowo said anything contrary to what the military wanted to hear, he would have ended up in prison himself.

Awolowo was merely part of Gowon Cabinet.

If Awolowo was MeReLy PaRt Of the Nazi cAbInEt (u talked about, with respect to the Jews-German ally), are u aware of what would have happened to him after the Holocaust?

Sunshineg5:
So Yorubas killed 3 million igbos?

In the second world war Germany actually maimed Jews and used them as target practice in Nazi concentration camps but today Germans and Jews are allies.

Every single German who played a part in maiming the Jews was brought to justice.

The justice effect!

AceRoot:
Indeed, northerners are not exceptional !!! Indeed, my friend.

Remember when "exceptional" became the new "exempted"?
Ya, great times!

Yobabad:
Fake news from a local Yoruba Muslim, just hold on a similar thread is coming, Bola Tinubu have start coughing seriously

Seems like Obsession!

MetaPhysical:
You are correct. No reason to sneak infected people into anywhere. Why should SE carry responsibility to isolate and shelter them?

Same scenario played out in Osun last week and the Governor ordered Amotekun to escort the smuggled Zamafara bandits out of Osun. Aid to Zamfara governor yearned nonsense and Governor Oyetola did not even care to respond.

These SE Govs put themselves in this position. They have lost their voice. Small boy like Shettima should not be addressing governors like that.

SE governors put Northern interest above and before that of their people. That should change.

Those governors are nothing but Northern stooges.

TheAfricaQueen:
100-200 COVID-19 infected Northern youths in the back of lorries disguised as lorries carrying livestock or food items is not essential movement of goods. Please be reasonable.

Maybe Covid-19 infested humans are now part of essential commodities.

Ya, we all love Covid-19 infested humans.
Amazing!

Throwback:
That you do not even understand what it means to be landlocked within the present Nigerian boundary, shows you are an illiterate that needs to be educated.

Is there any Igbo state or Igbo town that borders any neighboring country, thereby part of Nigeria's international boundary? No!

Is there any Igbo state or village that is bound by the sea, thereby exiting as an international delineation? No!

You say your villages exit to a River. Will you sail from that river and continue into Non Igbo territory because the river exits into the sea? What stops the Nupe, Berom, and Igala from sailing the same river from further upland and trying to pass through Biafra and eventually into Non-Igbo territory so as to access the same sea?

You are landlocked because by the time your miniature 5states were to secede from Nigeria, without the alliance of the Ikwere or other non-Igbo tribes that have access to the sea, you will be totally locked within Nigeria just like Lesotho is locked within South Africa.

Look at the map below, and see how trapped you are. I know it feels choking.

Simply put, you will be at the mercy of Nigeria.

Landlocked or not, it would be better than this present Nigeria.
The good thing about freedom is that it entails the freedom even to SELF-DESTRUCT!

The merit of staying away from a backward country that tries its best to remain backward by discouraging merit and competition, far outweighs whatever ocean we are being exposed to, in Nigeria.

CodeTemplar:
Benue and Taraba have bigger water bodies now.

A comparable CITY (meaning not just about the water body, but also about the level of commercial activities going on there) NOT STATE.

Now, talk about the commercial cities around the water bodies in Taraba and Benue that are comparable to Onitsha.

JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI:
Long term goal is not secession or holding on to a failed union, long time goal is human and infrastructural development of our region, tell me any states that do everything in unison like Yoruba states, where’s there’s freedom to practice the religion you like, support any candidate you like, that’s our long term goal.

Our long term goal is to retain the industrial hub of the nation and the economic capital too, our long term goal is to connect all yoruba major cities together with a road like East - West line (USA), our long term goal is making Yorubaland peaceful so others can come to live and prosper and in turn increase our IGR, our long term goal is security of lives and property in our region, (creation of amotekun and very soon state policing) our long term goal is maintaining the best crop of lawyers in Nigeria Incase there’s a reason to secede, there won’t be bloodshed... If you study Yoruba history, you’ll know our thirst for liberty and progressiveness knows no bound, why our forefathers left ife to conquer territories

Maybe if IPOB study more bout the ANC and Mandela, they’ll know what’s call a struggle, how to liberate your people, sacrifice you’re to make, the type of government you want to run, your economic policy, Kanu hasn’t talked about that, just insulting... I wish they succeed with their secession quest, but Kanu is a distraction for their course, they won’t agree lol

I believe ndigbo have more prospects than kanu, go through history, secessionist leader doesn’t do act like him

I haven’t find that in biafra related post, just making mouth and beating chest

But if the Yoruba nation decides to secede this union one day, nothing on earth can stop it... you can check history

Oga, to seceed no be by mouth! If the Yoruba would want to secede and other regions are not interested or indifferent, they would freaking go nowhere!
Stop making it look like there is anything special they would have done from the Igbo.

Deep down, every nation state in Nigeria (except the Fulani) wants some form of autonomy from the Nigerian state, but the thought of the donkey-work needed to make it happen discourages every one of them.

You may not like Kanu, or his style, but respect to him for being consistent irrespective of the threat, blackmail and aspersions he gets even from those that secretly want to escape from this contraption.

Wike sha..

Lockdown;
No massive testing..

Changes nothing; but unnecessary suffering of the residents.

Inteltower:
if we could only turn our lands to industries and companies and making residence on other States. just thinking though

Ya, buildings are not important; when we build industries all over the place, those that would work in those industries would sleep under the bridge or in bushes.

Amazing!

Golan007:
The dame ones that makes S.Easterners claim they have started to build mansions since 2015.

Give it up.

You cannot change the narrative.

Either the government has failed or it has improved your condition.

I asked for SPECIFIC POLICY, but u seem more interested in ad nauseam.

I'm done with you!

Golan007:
There's nothing like that.

Can't eat your cake and have it.

Either times are hard or you are progressing.

If you are progressing then it means government's policy is paying off.

Quick question:
What is this policy that seems to positively-affect only people from the SE?

Golan007:
I mean the houses were built in the last six years implies he boosted their economy.

You can't win that argument.

Either he did badly such that no development came to the east or he did so well that easterners are building houses in such numbers as never witnessed before since 2015.

I think it's more of "Lions not eating grass no matter how tough the jungle gets," than Buhari doing nada.

spyder880:
This is a new settlement in Nike, Enugu, very far from the main Enugu city centre. There's no more lands to buy in Enugu city centre. All has been bought up and are being held tightly.

The owners of these buildings, are they resident in the SE, or outside the SE?

horsepower102:
How can a state that has 59% poverty rate be developing so rapidly. Thank you for your contributions.

Some poverty!

Cyberterror:
Enugu is a poor state. Their rural areas are poverty-stricken but some mistakenly believe that Enugu city is representative of Enugu state. Economically, Abians are doing much better than Enuguites though it looks like Abia has been cursed with wicked leaders. Ebonyi is a backward state. Their ruthless governor is busy stealing for himself and his family while poverty and disease kills his people. Anambra state is not where it ought to be but that can change if their people can stop investing in Lagos. Imo is the only state with promise as our IGR and job creation is set to take a leap with the coming on stream of Shell gas and Waltersmith refinery which will create economic boom across the state. Owerri is currently the best city in southern Nigeria.

"Shell gas and Waltersmith refinery."
Interesting!
Could you please throw more light on those?

JAMO84:
Nigeria will remain one whether anyone like it or not. Prosperity of all part of Nigeria is in our best interest.

I was happy when president Yar adua began the dredging of the Niger river. I do not understand why President Jonathan stopped it.

As for those saying other water bodies would have access to the sea even if Nigeria breaks up, you are just being ignorant. All the south west need to do is to dam the river Niger from our end and we would be controling the volume of water that gets to your areas. But, that would never happen because Nigeria would never break up.




I AM DONE TALKING

Go and study the COURSE of the Niger River first.

I would advise u don't call people "ignorant," on this.

"... incoming Northern president in 2023."
- (voiceoftruth; 2020)

Lol
Exciting times ahead.

helinues:
If we were able to get the presidency, then we have opportunity to do beyond what we have been condemning others of neglecting, hence no need of leaving Nigeria at least for now.

And if we were to lose the presidency, then we don't know how to play our game. Simply not matured to be independent.

Head or tail, it is NO to self-determination.
Amazing!

Doubleoo:
I get it from that angle. Unfortunately, that has always been the political game that keeps us in the current situation.

Folks seem to prefer (temporary) palliatives to (permanent) solution.

Sad indeed!

helinues:
The 2023 presidency.. Success or failure

What a mindset!

Heathrow44:
U are so dumb & clueless, u re already thinking oh I made one hell of a statement proudly shinning ur rotten decaying brown teeth t the sun, masking in ur uncommon stupidity.. So using herd immunity is better to u than a 2month shutdown.. If I say Nigerians are wicket people it would look as though I'm just talking buh see one of dem here. Herd immunity should only be used as a last resort after all protocols has failed but is even inhuman t use such unless u are cold blooded blood sucking sicko like u re then go ahead. Useless fool!

I'm the dumb one, but u couldn't put up something intelligible, you had to recourse to abusive words?
Ya, says a lot about how intelligent you are.

I guess u didn't need a response, hence, ur resort to abusive lines so I could get distracted and come meet u in the gutter; sorry kid, I'm not a pig and I don't play in the gutter; now go find ur kind.

bolaayenimo:
https://www.independent.ng/covid-19-lockdown-nigeria-for-two-months-sagay-tells-buhari/

So many mad people in this country.
This Sagay seems far removed from reality; they should lockdown the country for two months, so that those who can't feed can die off?
Amazing!

It is better people are allowed to contract it, then those strong enough should survive, while the weak ones can die off, that is natural selection.

Nobody should be allowed to tweak natural selection in such a way it would favour only a particular class.

Close border so we can prevent Covid-19 from entering our borders, u guys refused, now u want to lock people down for two months so that the same people u impoverished their lives can die of hunger, just to protect folks like you from contracting the disease!
Lockdown kee u there.

helinues:
Is sacking and slashing of Salary the same?

With due respect, I think you missed the point; @op never claimed "retrenchment" and "slashing of salaries" are the same; he was only concerned that Atiku's name made headline for the retrenchment of workers by Gotel, while Tinubu's is conspicuously absent in the slash of salary by TVC, headline.

These are the issues.