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OkCornel:
My question is simple, how does "all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave" automatically translate to be muslims?
Which Muslims have the mark of the beast on their right hand? Or that one is no longer relevant abi?
You have an axe to grind against Islam, just don't twist the scriptures to suit your agenda and end up bringing curses upon yourself.

This world is full of good and bad people cut across all languages, tribes, religion etc.
The moment your morla compass is decayed and your sense of justice, truth and mercy is compromised, just know you are practicing a lie. And whatever you profess to be is plainly pointless.

John gave us the description in John 4-3 for a reason in others to identify the anti Christ.

And I never said all Christians would go to heaven either and I did not day all Christians are Good people.

OkCornel:
My question is simple, how does "all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave" automatically translate to be muslims?
Which Muslims have the mark of the beast on their right hand? Or that one is no longer relevant abi?
You have an axe to grind against Islam, just don't twist the scriptures to suit your agenda and end up bringing curses upon yourself.

This world is full of good and bad people cut across all languages, tribes, religion etc.
The moment your morla compass is decayed and your sense of justice, truth and mercy is compromised, just know you are practicing a lie. And whatever you profess to be is plainly pointless.

sir with respect the Bible tells us that there would be many anti Christ's.

But there was this particular one that most of them kept on talking about. The one with the false prophet aka the beast and the second beast. Even with all this evidence if u cannot see who this is talking about them u chose to be blind and and I cannot blame u. If most people's eyes were open how can Gods words come to past?

If the beast did not pretend to be God how would he deceive the world?
Considering most people dislike the devil.

Now to answer your question among the followers of the beast there would be rich, poor and what have u and not.

So u are asking a stupid question.

OkCornel:
You’re really confused.


Revelation 13 v 16-17;

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,
17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Read the bolded part slowly and explain how Muslims are suddenly “all people great and small, rich and poor, free and slave”

How did you read this and conclude this is referring to Muslims only? Like seriously?

Who did this to you?

brother the time has not come Islam is the fastest growing religion and Christianity the declining even in former Christian countries like the uk.

God told us that there would be a time of general apostasy and it would go on for years.

A time will come when Islam will become the religion of the most and Gods words would come to past.
If u don't have this sign which shows u do salah to worship the beast u would not trade.


So far the Bible tells us the devil would trick a spokes person, a false prophet by pretending to be an angel of light, the spokes person would ask his followers to worship this God by Bowing down to it like muslims do. And the Bible says they would grow and many would join them. Islam keeps growing.
And most importantly the Bible says we shall know them by their fruit. Which is to kill steal and destroy now look at people like Isis, boko, haram, Al Qaida , hamas and so on their fruit is to kill, steal and destroy.

If u are a Muslim that is begining to see the picture the Bible paints and u are afraid u can always join the light it's not to late.

Show me another person that all these descriptions match.

OkCornel:
In other words you can’t prove to us instances where these same set of people can have a mark on their right hand?

Did John not also see people with the mark on their right hand?

Let me refresh your mind on something in that same book.

Revelation 22 v 18-19;
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.

19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

Keep it up.

oga the sign is either on the forehead or on the hand.
The forehead is enough.


If Islam is not the anti Christ then Christianity is false.
It's either one or the other.

OkCornel:
Ok, so this set of people also bear the mark on their right hand too?

it's says 'or' which means either on the fore head or hand. So one mark is enough

Now to what I believe is the sign of the anti Christ .

The main passage in the Bible that mentions the “mark of the beast” is Revelation 13:15-18. Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9, 11, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, and 20:4. This mark acts as a seal for the followers of Antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the Antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead and is not simply a card someone carries.
Christians usually have imagined of someone with 666 written on his head or a chip on his hand when they think of the mark of the anti Christ.


However I want u to know something
No 1. The followers of the best will get this sign as a result of how they worship him.



No.2 the spokes person or the false prophet would force them to worship him like that and take this sign.

devilmaycry:
Very inciteful
Learnt something new today

Thank you....

So in essence Muslims are worshiping Satan in the Christian view

Okay....no wonder

yes this has always been the Christians stand regarding the matter.
A verse in Corinthians explains to us that it is not impossible for the devil to pretend to be God. That he had done it before and would still do it again and were were given guidelines on how to spot the anti Christ in 1st John and Islam matches it.

I saw a video on tiktok. it was from an Islamic movie during the time of Mohammed.
A group of Muslims came to Ethiopia,hey met one of the king's there who happened to be Christian. They told him that the worshiped the same God as him. And from there they were able to convert him into their religion.

And that had me thinking about deception.
I decided to investigate what the Bible and qoran says about God and deception.

In the Bible it claims that God hates deceit and that the devil/serpent/beast/ anti Christ was the best deceiver.

Then I came across a post were it claims that Allah was the greates deceiver and when I looked into it, it happens that this statement was made by Allah a couple of times.

Surely the same God that clames to hate deceit and that satan was the greatest deceiver can not go on to claim that he was also a master of deceit?

Cc antichristian antiislam maxinDHouse lomprico advocatejare haekymbahd

I'm just confused because the Qur'an was a revelation but it did not reveal anything.
It would have been more convincing if it was written with more detail like.

Alkanah son of miserable then stole the injel from Jesus and hid it at a place called alkadabra in the east of Jerusalem under the green rock close to the kabal.

And instead of 'it was made to look like that' perherps the Qur'an would have explained something like 'then Jesus hid and God intervene by making Jacob son of larabel and matiac from judiah, a common stable keeper to look like Jesus and he was the arrested by the Roman and crucified.
After 3days Jesus came out form where he was hiding in a restaurant close to the palace of the Roman general kadiri and then he moved to Sudan were he hid for the rest of his life.

Then Jesus deciples jealous that he hid without informing them so that they coild also hide from the Romans started spreading lies about him and writing false books.

Jesus could not come out from Sudan to dispel this lies because the Romans would track him down because Allah had warned him that he would not protect him if he came out of hiding.

MaxInDHouse:
The verse said Jesus is from God and that he came in the flesh, all Muslims agree with this but there are more important things that has to do with salvation which Islam ruled out not about Jesus being sent by God!

that's not what the verse says. Thats Satan trying to claim legitimacy. The verse is very clear.

If a spirit comes to u and claims that God did not come down to earth in flesh it is not of God.

Its almost as if a revelation was made to him that some people would make this claim 600 yes later.
look at the scenery. It says a spirit would claim and that spirit would have a false prophet and toghter they would lead people astray.
If what u are saying is the right thing then how do u explain the false prophet?

MaxInDHouse:
I agree completely with this but @ 1John 4:3 the verse doesn't condemn Islam or Muhammad!

it condemned the anti Christ and his prophet I'm sorry there is only one person that matched this discription.

MaxInDHouse:
Who said the highlighted?

ok Bible is real and Bible says Qur'an is false. Case closed.

haekymbahd:
Did Muhammad or Quran claim that Jesus didn't come in flesh?

Which God came down to earth and die is it the one that forsake Jesus on the cross that died or Jesus (his servant) who came in flesh.


The God of Jesus did not come down to earth and die he has always been in heaven.

Matthew 6
9. In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.

John 20
17. Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’ ”




Did the God you claim came to earth and died have another God?

was this right after the resurrection that Islam and the false spirit claim never happened?

U posted an epistol on how Jesus never died and then sent me to read a chapter about his resurrection.

Do u even read the verse??
Stop using scripture. Use th bone the devil inspired.

Child of the serpent.
Twisting scripture.

Now to answer
the Qur'an is a dead book
Here is one of the reason why I came to that conclusion. 1st John 4-3 tells us that Qur'an is not from the living God.

Secondly I found lies in the Qur'an.
For example it claimed Alexander the Great was Muslim even tho he was a pagan.

But now after reading 1st John and realising that Qur'an is not from God and Alexander was a pagan, it could be that the Qur'an was saying the truth all along.
Alexander was Muslim in the sense that he was not of God.

haekymbahd:
1. So how did you test the spirit of Islam?

2. Have you tested the spirit behind your brand of Christianity?

3. How sure are you that the god that sent you the msg is the real God is it because he claims to be God.


4. You claim the bible is a living book is the Quran a dead book how did you arrive at this?

5. Your case is a case of someone asking about God from Satan what do you expect if not deceit...

brother it gives me joy to see u ask this question. Cuz the Bible is indeed a living book.
Let me start with the 3rd question.
No spirit appeared to me so I did not have the opportunity to test it. But do u know someone who a spirit appeared to and passed the test ??
His name is John. He wrote revelations and in revelations 1- 18 .

Now the spirit that brought Islam to Mohamed failed this test. It says God di not come down to earth and die.

Yes the Bible is a living book because everything it's says is panning out how it's said it.
1st John 4-3 spoke about Islam and Mohammed and it happend.

I see Muslims rejoicing cuz plenty people are leaving Christianity but they don't also know that the scriptures says so and it's happening.

The Bible said isreal would come back and it happened.

What do u now call a living book if not the book that saw tomorrow ?

As a Christian when u see this type of posts and u check the source u will always find out that it comes from Muslims. This is no surprise cuz the devil is the founder of Islam.
This question is the same thing the devil asked Christ the second time.
He questioned Gods love for him.

Through urself and see if God catches you had the same undertone as 'why did God abandon Christ'

It's been 2000 yes and the devil is still asking the same questions.

lomprico:
I did not see Islam or Mohammed in the bible script u quoted. So you still don't know what you are talking about.

let me help u to see it. That some one that masquaredes as angel Gabriel was Satan.

And his prophet is Mohammed.

lomprico:
Which prophesy?

the one that's says in John 4-3 that a spirit would come and claim that God did not come to earth as a man. And that the spirit with the help of his prophet would deceive many.
And we are to await this sign.

600 yes later in arabia the the spirit came with his prophet and deceived many.

MaxInDHouse:
It means whatever quality we see in Jesus is possible for anyone in the flesh to also meet up.
So if any religion teaches that it's impossible to imitate Jesus in thoughts, words and actions such a religion is ANTICHRIST (MISLEADING) because CHRIST supposed to be the role model that all of us should strive to imitate as humans in the flesh! 1Peter 2:21

I'm laughing cuz I'm seeing the devil being disgraced in real time.

U say Bible is fake and that real one is lost then from there the only argument Muslims should have regarding this prophecy should be that John's statement is false.

But they are running up and down trying to twist it to legitimise mohmamed so that he and his spirit can pass the test and deceive more people.

Mohammed thought the spirit that met him was from the devil the first time it can and he was right.

AntiChristian:
Where does the Bible mention Muhammad and Islam specifically according to your topic!

it says a false spirit would come and claim that Jesus is not God and the false spirit would have a prophet and they would deceive many.

Now using Ur head who is it talking about?

What a living book u cannot claim that it is talking about Jews because it clearly state that we are to expect this false prophet and spirit at that time Jews already were.

MaxInDHouse:
Based on 1John 4:3

Please expatiate on that verse and bring out the import so we can all learn how that verse condemn Muhammad because he acknowledged Jesus as being sent by God in the flesh!

what does being sent by God in the flesh mean?

Does that mean that Jesus existed as something else before he was sent as flesh cus if that's what it means then Christians are correct.

AntiChristian:
So na Islam you dey learn in Christianity for the two years you stopped bleeping?

What Does The Bible Say About Islam And Mohammed?
The Bible never mentioned Muhammad and Islam.

You lied!

lol you tube is filled with Muslims manufacturing fake verses where the Bible supposedly mentioned mohamed coming. Now that I have revealed what a prophecy in the Bible days about Islam and Mohammed. U now want to claim that the Bible never mentioned it.

Each day it becomes even more clearer that the devil is behind Islam.

I am still doing my research. I want to know if Mohammed mentioned a serpent or had an encounter with any serpent.

advocatejare:
The Bible did:

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.


The encounter muhammad had in the cave with the demonic entity was later confused to be an angel of God and that was how Islam came into existence.

Muhammad felt he was having interactions with Angel Gabriel (servant of righteousness) when in the actual sense, Muhammad was experiencing demonic oppressions. The so called Gabriel pinned him down and tried to kill him 3 different times, he made Muhammad snort like a camel etc

Read sahih Bukhari 3 and you will understand

brother I recently started having dreams this has never happened to me while I was ignorant.

But as soon as I tried to find God I started having dreams devil coming after me in my dreams.

God has been sending me signs that the Bible is his words and this signs cannot be mistaken.

Today I saw this verse where John practically warned about Mohammed and the spirit.

Now I bring this one to my notice.
I always knew the devils attributes was deceit. But I never knew he could appear in the form of an angel of light.


It is resolved the Bible said everything thousands of years ago.

AntiChristian:
Dear New Christian,

Do not come here and be saying what you don't understand! You are still even new in Christianity, And God don dey chat with you like whatsapp!

Nonsense lies!

Just a few years ago as i said on the other thread you were bleeping ladies about!

Keep mute as you are 24 this year and still ignorant!

my God everyday Christianity blows my mind. Every test from the devil was talked about.

Look at this.

lomprico:
The bible did not mention anything Islam directly or indirectly. Islam came into existence far long after Christianity was established.

the prophecy is there.

MaxInDHouse:
There is nothing in that verse negating what Muslims believe about Jesus.
They acknowledged that Jesus came "in the flesh" meaning anybody can imitate Jesus since he lived and served God successfully in the flesh so if you also live in the flesh you too can please God with the way you live your life!

brother we are not here to play games. This verse is for Christians it's a prophecy every Christians that sees it knows what it means.

What u are doing is childsplay.
U need to download bumble if u want to play with words.[/quote]

For those who do not know this is the verse.

And I also just found out that the devil through Muslim preachers has been trying to twist a book that they say is corrupt.
If spirit does not agree that God came down to the earth in flesh, it is not of God. And a warning was given that that type of spirit would come.

This is 600 yrs before the spirit. Came to Mohamed saying the same thing the Bible said it would.

Written 600 yes before

MaxInDHouse:
1John 4:3

"But every inspired statement that does not acknowledge Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s inspired statement that you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world"

Reading without thorough meditation 90% religions on this planet are OK because it's rare to find any religionist that won't acknowledge someone as popular as Jesus of Nazareth. Muhammad acknowledged Jesus as a person sent by God so you've not gotten the real meaning of John's statement there.

na this is just the devil trying to hold on to the souls he has.

The Bible is corrupt according to Muslims so I will not fall for Muslims twisting Bible verses to deceive people. The verse was very clear.

There would have been no need to include 'in the flesh' if it ment what u are trying to say.

The Bible is really a living book.
Today I stumbled upon first John chapter 4 Vs 3.

Recently I began to study Islam I wanted to know if Islam was from God or not.
I made up my mind to read the Qur'an and the Bible this year and compare and contrast.

This morning God sent me a msg. During devotion the person preaching which happened to be my father read from 1st John chapter 4 Vs 3.
.mind u the Bible was written over 600 years before Islam.

Earlier Christians wanted to know how to identify a spirit that was from God or not as therly were afraid of falling into the hands a false prophets mislead by false spirits.

And there the answer was.
Christians are asked to test the spirit.

And as soon as a read the verse it was so clear that it was talking about the spirit that mislead Mohammed.

I have seen so many prophecies in the Bible come true I would never doubt the word of God ever again.

AntiChristian:
Mr bleeper! The Christian hypocrite!

search more. Before I became infatuated with defending Christianity. I was all over romance section and that was the kind of life I lived. No shame. It's u who is ashamed to acknowledge Ur prophet was pagan and immoral.

If u even search more u would uncover that at some point I was also atheist.

AntiChristian:
I asked of his religion. Did he practiced Judaism till he died? Give evidence! Liars have no verifiable evidence! Bring your Bible verses!

So far in this thread you haven't brought just one verifiable and contextual evidence to substantiate any of your claims!


Where are the evidence for your lies?

Jesus may have also been an idol worshiper from 15 to 29 years in the Bible as those information were not included in your Bible!
I wonder why Christians have been telling us lies all these while!

to thinkin that I even considered converting to Islam once is so funny. Tiktok algorithm almost fooled me. I kept in seeing videos of white women claiming they converted to Islam and I became curios why.

After dividing deeper I realised a community of ex Muslims and they put me back on the right track.