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Logiboy; here in South America we have created the "Church of Logicboy". We already have three subsidiaries, charging tithes (as the Bible commands) ... We are awaiting his arrival to bless us, beloved Pastor! Alleluia! Un fuerte abrazo querido amigo. Siempre podrás contar conmigo, como un amigo incondicional. y... Vamo' arriba la celeste! |
In reality , at the end of his life, Armstrong wanted to meet the 20 virgins and paradise; intrntó He invented that story, but the CIA convinced him that Guantanamo was not a comfortable place. |
amor4ce: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403318_199820013483064_2043326682_n.jpgDear Brother: You and I are following the same reasoning. Christians judge others, but they forget their essence and their bible. Christianity has doctina own, they quote the Bible but do not know, they imitate Jewish , Christian and traditionalist ceremonies .. Orthodox Jews still today approve human sacrifcios! Very good post, dear friend! |
capricon: Interesting, though I am a catholic Christian, i believe in freedom of religion including traditional religions. We have them in abundance in my village (igbo). I will suggest pushing ur religion for national recognition and your fetival days given some kind of holidayYou are a person who deserves all my respect. Not everyone should think the same way ... that is what diversity. Exisen cultural issues that have little to do with the identity of the people, and that should be respected. Freedom of worship is provided in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The blind religious fanaticism. Your attitude is honest, fair, and respectful. Thank you. My respects! |
Neil converted to Islam? He had died in Guantanamo nakash: Which is a very laughable claim. Call to prayer? Who is the moon Muezin? Which muslim in the moon to prostate? Which direction do muslims in the moon face when praying? Islam is just a joke. Okay Imams of Islam who know Arabic are just a joke. Another Egyptian sheikh the other day said that it is lawful to have sex with your dead wife ie necrophilia within 6 hours of her death just because the prophet entered and laid besides a dead relatives body.Necrophilia? Polygamy? Adultery? When I read some comments against traditional religion, I think if Christians and Muslims know the meaning of the word self. My respects. |
okeyxyz: @OP Yes a christian can take up a traditional title, though it may not be advisable, not that it's sinful but out of consideration for the weak in faith who may be misled.Christians used traditional African languages, even the name of the God of traditional religion ... used and mimic traditional religion procedures ... It is very funny to see Christians pray to Oloórún! Christianity is not nothing but a number of different sects, which differ between them, without a clear and consistent doctrine and imitating Jewish ceremonies, Catholic and traditionalist. What else you need to imitate to Catholicism? My respects. |
To get it over with some nonsense The Passover lamb was prepared in advance, four days before (Exodus 12.3,5). It had to be one year, without blemish and without spot. The Passover lamb was sacrificed in place of Israel, the Lord's firstborn (escaped death - Exodus 22.04, 13.15). The Passover lamb had to be sacrificed "between the evenings", ie from 2:30 PM to 5:00 PM the day of the Passover. The Passover lamb had to be roasted whole. You could break a bone thereof (Numbers 9.12), and leave nothing for the Sabbath. Besides the sacrifice of Jesus (God mercilessly sacrificed his own son), another example of human sacrifice in the Old Testament is that of Jephthah. Jephthah promises to sacrifice to Yahweh in his honor the first to come out to meet him on his return if it helps defeat the Ammonites (Judges 11:31). Returning victorious is his own daughter coming out to meet him and Jephthah fulfills his promise to Yahweh. (Judges 11:39)
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Theshrewdboy: ,but consider this:how will feel to have continued in abject ignorance of the existence of GODThe worst slavery, is the mental slavery ... or so blind as he who will not see. If reasoning is worthy of a shepherd fan, desperate for tithes ... Dear ... watch your knees .... being so long kneeling affects the dignity, and bones. my respects |
vislabraye: It stll baffles me that people fail to see the benefits of the "foreign" religion over traditional religion.Seldom have I read so many blunders ... The Jews (ancestors of Catholicism) lambs slaughtered to cleanse their sins and sacrificed virgins in honor Javeh. Why do not you criticize that? Why insist on talking about murders of twins? Twins in Yoruba culture are a blessing, and in fact the twins have their worship (Ibeije). Why you do not read the whole thread before saying such nonsense? Besides you pay tithing as a fool, you is writing nonsense? Mature. Now, I answer your question. Christians have killed all over the world. It has not been where they have not committed terrible crimes. If you read the thread, you can understand what I explained about the cult Somponnó. Do not try to disqualify the other by misinformation and ignorance. My respects. |
grace5: This will cause destruction and death in the land.The conclusions that can convey the fanaticism ... Tsk Tsk ... |
OLAADEGBU: I don't blame you because of your limitation in English Language. Let me give you a hint. Click on the link suggested at the Opening post and you will discover the name of the writer of the article.So yeah, my English is very bad ... Now ... I understand that the item is not yours. Let's see if I'm wrong. You really vote for a Mormon? |
ba7man: This is a topic i love. Christianity is a religion in which its foundation is "LOVE". Trust me, if u see ppl doin evil things and they claim to be Christians,they are not following the bible and also Christians base their beliefs on the teachings of Christ. Our traditional religions were relions of "FEAR". Our ancestors worshiped things they didnt understand. THey see a large tree and instead of dominating it(to make tables and chairs) as the God of christianity commands,they worship it. They even worshippd chickenpox "sapona"(like how daft can you get?). Fear restricts discovery and thats why our societies were backwards doin all sorts of funny things when the white christians "dominated" the seas to get to our lands to "dominate" us with our backwards religions.The worship of Somponno not worshippd smallpox, but the priests had healing powers on various skin conditions. Europeans, fearing the unknown, Somponnó banned cult, their priests persecuted and killed many of them ... You say that Christianity is love ... Also with what happened in the cult Somponnó, is another example of Christian savagery. Dear friend ... if you want to participate in the thread, learn before you write ... It's hard to defend the savages Christian , without falling into ridicule you. There is no place in the world that has not witnessed the savagery Christian. That is the true Christian love. |
MacDaddy01: Yep. It is a sad case where an African will insult his history just to defend a foreign religionDear friend: It is no coincidence. The conquerors imposed their beliefs, traditions and culture. But they also were careful to "demonize" and disqualify any trace of "Africanism". They are fighting two fronts: to impose the dominant culture, and eliminate the identity of Africans. It is finished neatly ... At the Berlin Conference, 1884-1885, Europeans agreed on how to distributed Africa among themselves. Each step was always previously studied .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Conference Disqualification of African values (are black and bottom, their culture is demonic, are uncivilized) and overvaluation of European culture, with the Jewish God included. Yes, I agree with you ... it is outrageous that blasphemes African ancestors to defend the Jewish God who died begging hung on a cross. Un abrazo, querido amigo! |
Rossikk: This sounds like a lie you invented to defend your imported christian faith. What proof do you have of this claim? You don't even know if it was your great grandfather or great great grandfather, yet you 'know' that this same person rejected his ancestral religion for christianity ''because of this human sacrifice stuff''. The real truth of course is that most of our ancestors adopted christianity because all public resources were diverted by the new colonial rulers to those who embraced christianity, those who partook of the new dispensation by attending missionary schools and becoming 'western educated'. The first thing you did upon entering missionary schools was abandon your traditional religion, which was dismissed as savage and heathen by the christian priests who ran them. So if you wished yourself and children to 'do well' under the new colonial system, you HAD to abandon your religion. So it was an economic decision, one based on the sheer necessity for survival, that made Africans gradually abandon their ancient faiths for christianity. I am VERY CERTAIN that those were the considerations playing your ancestor's mind in his decision, and most certainly not ''this human sacrifice stuff''.Excellent exposure. My congratulations! |
capricon: I agree with u on most things Ptolomeus though i still think ur weiredIt's true. Not everything foreign is bad. But I am referring to in this thread would blame all the ills of African traditional religion ... Look, it's possible that the old African traditions can not serve ... ... What is absolutely proven, is that neither the Arabs nor the Christians have made Africa a continent far developed ... Possibly the most damage you have done, is the inferiority complex of the majority of Africans, and their identity crisis. It is a pleasure to speak with this level of respect. Thank you! My respects. |
Rossikk: You're talking absolute RUBBISH.Excellent remark! Historically, killing in the name of "Christ the King" ... |
emmatok: Do the Indians,Japanese, Chinese practice slave trades ? Yes.Arabs and Christians did not practiced slavery? Apparently you came from another planet.
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capricon: ok ok ok....so we have all agreed that we neither need christianity nor ancestral religion to progress as human beings. Now thread closedNobody said it needed one thing or another. Every human being is free to select. Now, when an illiterate Christian assaults without information, there is a right to explain that all the ills of Africa are not due to traditional religion, but to the acculturation, sense of inferiority, mental slavery and taught the conquerors. |
emmatok: Guy, leave this people alone.http://terceravision./tag/africa/ http://www.google.com.uy/imgres?num=10&hl=es&safe=off&biw=1152&bih=554&tbm=isch&tbnid=3KhhDJaC3QH3JM:&imgrefurl=http://www.feedingminds.org/info/africa_es.htm&docid=rvLH4AvxAx5g_M&imgurl=http://www.feedingminds.org/img/map_africa_es.jpg&w=393&h=459&ei=I4NbUJ1w9JrSAdqhgcAB&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=220&vpy=113&dur=3265&hovh=243&hovw=208&tx=138&ty=122&sig=114443673755061017136&page=1&tbnh=115&tbnw=98&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:71 http://www.google.com.uy/imgres?num=10&hl=es&safe=off&biw=1152&bih=554&tbm=isch&tbnid=7-DENKBfxhpMkM:&imgrefurl=http://sosiegosydesasosiegos./2009/11/06/la-desnutricion-infantil-tiene-solucion/&docid=_nVlqtj6kI_SqM&imgurl=http://sosiegosydesasosiegos.files./2009/11/mapa-desnutricion.jpg%253Fw%253D500%2526h%253D268&w=499&h=268&ei=I4NbUJ1w9JrSAdqhgcAB&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=321&vpy=108&dur=3297&hovh=164&hovw=307&tx=157&ty=78&sig=114443673755061017136&page=6&tbnh=116&tbnw=216&start=73&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:73,i:314 My cordial greetings.
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blasterman: my guy free me u idiotic slowpoke. I asked what has the pictures got to do with the topic. You never answered but you are barking like a dog on batteryA typical Christian. Ignore what he's talking, insults and no honor. That also is the inheritance that you learned of the slavers. You remain a slave, without honor and power of discernment. Move on. Your place is in the trees. |
MacDaddy01: lolololol.gracias querido amigo! |
Billyonaire: Imported Religion is by far better than those superstitious dogma's of we Africans. Killing of twins etc. Even in Igboland they still call some people "Outcasts". European religion comes with education of the mind. But African Religion breeds ignorance, fear, superstition and death.Indicate where and what you worship murdered African twins! The twins are considered a blessing in Yoruba culture. Learn before you comment! |
blasterman: PLUMEANUS u were the one posting pictures of drought and famine victims in other to prove wat. Wat has dat got 2 do with the topic. Blame my phone for the mistakePLASTERMAN Poorly educate sir: I did not publish photos of drought. The hands are not chained drought ... You lied constantly, you disrespected me, as I wrote about education. You published something false, demonstrated that you are a coward. You have not had the guts or arguments to defend your religion. You've been a fool, because I proved that their religion has always been the most murderous, cruel and discriminating in all. Christians should be ashamed of liars and phonies like you in the ranks. I repeat to you: your religion is to blame for the deplorable situation in Africa at all levels. You are a servant of the slavers, a mindless. Formally asked the moderators to remove his false post, and I keep waiting for your apology, if you have at least some dignity. |
vislabraye: Don't be deceived. African traditional religion is diabolic. Time and space would not allow me to explain the savage tradition and culture that was practised.African traditional religion has no devil, no Satan or Beelzebub. Expresses regret his ignorance. Satan only exists in Christian belief, Satan belongs to the Jewish-Christian creed, not African. |
blasterman: Ptolomeus: As this occurs, the fanatical idiots burned churches and synagogues ... and encourage religious hatred in the name of Allah and Christ ...Blasterman: YOU RECTIFY THAT HAS POSTED I DID NOT WRITE THAT. I DID NOT WWRITE SUCH NONSENSE ABOUT CANNIBALISM. AND CORRECT IT IMMEDIATELY! |
CrazyMan: True the roman catholic church supported slave trade...but does it make the church evil?Dear friend: You already said that God Catholic punishes , sends plagues, assassinate elderly, women and children, you also agree that priests practiced pedophi1ia ... and now you agree with me, on the responsibility of Christianity in slavery ... Not talking about different things ... My amazement comes when after saying all that, you criticize traditional religion ... It's that simple ... "The dead man scares the slain!" My respects. |
adelss4u: Thank u guys for ur matured contributions. I don't mind reading more views though. Remain blessed.Yes, of course .. View and analyze some things causes pain .. But not to close his eyes, those things disappear .. On the contrary ... Take consciousness. My respects |
CrazyMan: 1. I'm sure that in your research, you didn't omit the area where thousands of missionaries died while spreading the gospel of christ in Africa.I'm glad the paths tansite discusón education and rationalism, and not for the disqualification and the injury of his first intervention. I respond to you 1. In the colonization of Africa, missionaries surely died. Excuse me, but I do not think life is worth more missionaries than Africans. Or yea?. were also killed, soldiers French, British, Arabs, etc.. You weep for them? Ilament for the Africans, who asked not to be invaded. You do not realize that they killed in the name of Christ? Surely you're joking. You are not informed about what was the Inquisition? You do not know that the African slave trade was encouraged, supported and encouraged by the Christians? You know that the Catholic Church promoted slavery on the grounds that blacks were animals, and had no soul? Well ... then dear friend ... you are very misinformed. 2.Great error .. disinformation. In a synagogue, a woman can sit in the same place as men? A woman can learn or read the Torah? Why do you judge traditional religion, with facts that foreign religions practiced much worse?. It is better to look inside your own home? You have defended Islam, why do not you respond, what you think of the costumes used for Islamic women? 3.I agree with you! In the Old Testament, God punished all (or almost all). You said it yourself ... But you traicionalismo accused of being cruel ... Contradictory! If, God of Israel is irritable, vindictive and sadistic .. Who does not believe he will suffer the worst casigos (this is a loving God?). Following that, and can you tell traditionalism? Please think about you a little, before you post! The God of the Old Testament, is one of the most sadistic and murderers ever invented. I insist that your popio catigó people, sent plagues .. No normal human being would worship a god so evil. 4.I will be brief. I could cite dozens of passages. Consider: a) Judges (cap.10, 11 and 12), (Sacrifice of Jephthah virgin) Yahweh wanted her virgin .. perverse truth? b) (Hebrews .10:12) ... You read it? God sacrificed, or God did not sacrifice his son?. Well ... I think it's enough ... who sacrifices his own son, obviously human aceptasacrifcios. Sango did something?. Excuse me, but your analysis is very petty, biased, and your analysis suffers from amnesia 5.Pathetic! That is the Christian doctrine of love and peace? You are the judges the traditional religion? You are justifying murder and revenge ... Excuse me: I am a human being. I respect life ... I do not accept that veligeancia and hatred. 6.David repented of murder? With that achieved? Well then sin! Assassinate! that the Christian God forgives! Irony. This says a Christian! estimated Abraham was a murderer and an adulterer ... the Bible says ... that seems to be, then, cristina behavior as you say .. Abraham raped his home and impregnated her! You are very confused, but I thank you say those things 7. You ignore fundaentales issues. It's not my fault. 8.Natural resources? You are joking with something sacred. You make fun of African children's hunger! You speak of natural resources ... is ironic! I speak of the pain of Africa, hunger, of disease, of whatever cultures exanjeras (that you defend) imposed on Africa. Do you have heart? Do you have feelings?. Re-watch the children's eyes! 9. Africa is the continent with the highest number of people infected with AIDS per capita. Not me, says the WHO. You do not divert scusión to USA. We talked about Africa and the legacy they have left you defend foreigners. 10. Very respectfully. In an ironic question, I answer any theological position, is better than what you propose. Their god is cruel, unjust, irritable .. How can you judge other deities? Please! Have some respect! 11.There are internal wars imágees! But if they were, it is also the result of foreign domination. So Africa left his friends and his god. Hunger, poverty, disease, hatred ... and you criticize African culture? Excuse me, but I beg to raise the level of discussion ... You do not do anything but show that its creed incites violence, to mediocrity, and underestimation of Africans. Please be sensible ... you leave their hatred and bigotry. Again used to look in the eyes of these children ... In're eyes are all the "blessing" of Jesus and Mohammed ... What an irony! my respects
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seriallink: Our God doesn't descriminate; you could be chosen too, if you repent & change your ways. Repent now before it's too latel! Paganism no go fit help youThat comment is the sad result of hundreds of years slavery. Mental Slavery (unfortunately) is the latest chain to break. My respects! |
As this occurs, the fanatical idiots burned churches and synagogues ... and encourage religious hatred in the name of Allah and Christ ... Now, you sleep in peace (if you can), and worshiping the gods follow slavers ... But remember you the eyes of these children ...
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CrazyMan: 1. No I won't agree with you...cos traditional gods are far worse than christianity and islam put together.With your permission: 1. When you talk about sacrifices, I guess you do not refer to slavery, European Arab wing subjected to millions of Africans nor you are referring to the murders committed in the name of Christ the King and Muhammad ... When you refer to women while, surely you do not refer to the location of women in the synagogues, the maneraen that Islamic women should vesirse, n wing Islam accepts polygamy or the stoning and castación of women. Or yes? 2. When you say that "God is merciful", you mean the god bile, commanding destroy entire peoples? (Incluendo women, elderly and children), you are talking about spreading pests god? or you mean the prophet who orders suicidal fanatics murder innocents, and rewarded the murderers with 20 virgins in paradise? 3 If you read the Bible, you will see that Yahweh demanded sacrifices of virgins in their honor ... sacrifices that you speak? you speak of Jews slaughtered lamb to cleanse the sins? O God as "gracious" who sacrifices his own son, humiliated on the cross?. Yes, I agree with you, that is something disgusting that Christian priests violating children permanently ... I do not agree that profit from the shepherds tithing abusing the faithful. 4. You say that Paul was wrong, and God forgave him ... But you contradict (or contradicts this god?) It was later beheaded by the sins ... Terrible! Excuse me, but not all criminals are punished by God. Adulterers: Abraham, David, Solomon, Noah (etc.) were punished? The slave, who had been chained to black America in the name of God, were punished? Who said that blacks and Indians deserved to be slaves because they were animals that had no soul, were punished by God? Members of the "Holy Inquisition" were punished? 5. My answer to this point is based on the following. The result of centuries of domination cultural and religious of Arabs and European, in Afica is following: a) Africa is the poorest continent in the world. b) The highest rate of child deaths in the world is in Africa c) Africa is the continent with the largest number of people infected with AIDS per capita. d) Africa is the continent worst in terms of health and hygiene levels ... may continue .. the list is endless, but you know. Europeans and Arabs have been commissioned to erase culture of Africa, to impose their moral value propis (moral?), And lose their identity and pride to Africans That the legacy that slavery, and their foreign gods left in Africa. Finally, Sir, then I present to you some pictures of that "legacy". The images are worth a thousand words. Enjoy it! This is the culture, progress, civilzacion, love, and the improvements that these false gods outsiders brought to Africa: my respects
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ok seroulsly, take no offense. i do disagree with u on one thing. u seem to think one of the ills of Africa is caused by colonization/slavery. it tend to disagree there. you see most cultures in the world either practised slavery or were colonized or ruled by foreign cultures but that doesn't stop them from developing.
