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In some cases, suicide may be a sin.
In other cases, suicide can be a blessing!
My respects.

MacDaddy01: True talk but will it happen?

If you let me ...
I can not comment on Nigeria, much less on Nigerian politics. (It would be disrespectful).
But I think it is very important to the secular state.
That is the first step to ensure greater transparency in the management of government.
In Uruguay not vote for a president for its religious idea ... it does not matter ... The Vatican has no say in government decisions, no church interfere in political issues.
I just think that Nigeria is a secular state, and that's a big plus.
Moreover, the secular state guarantees freedom of religion, creed it takes precedence over any other.
I think that's an important step to take, but it's just a personal opinion.

Best wishes to all!
and

JeSoul: Ok thanks.

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Hi Ptolomeus, sorry if the info posted on your thread didn't adequately explain why it was closed, my bad, apologies on that.

As MMW noted, the topic 1-belonged in the islam section and 2-contained images that don't fit with NL rules. Furthermore, it is Seun's (the admin/owner) rules that we move ALL islam/muslim related threads to the next section. You can feel free to open another thread, this time leave out any provocative images, but it should be opened in the islam section. MMW & myself are not muslims, there's no reason for us to be 'biased' in that regard . Cheers brother.

Correct.

I obtained the images of open pages of Internet.
My apologies if the photos were offensive, that was not my intention.
Dear JeSoul, I send a warm embrace, mind you with all my respect.

Could you tell me if Abraham really committed adultery?

In my opinion, it is much more peaceful Islam to Judaism and Christianity.
But anyway, they are all foreign religions, who have always encouraged violence.
I have the absolute certainty that this thread will not have long-term ...
Soon will start the PM, and requests that the thread is moved to the section of Islam ...
The epilogue ... we already know.
My respects.

Dear JeSoul:
I greeted him warmly.
I have observed that they have closed the thread "Can Someone Please Explain Why The Islamic God Has Allowed This?" Because a participant called it offensive.
1. I do not think that all Islamic issues to be sent to the Islamic Forum. In fact, I respect Islam but I am not Muslim, and I think I should not post there (so yes, it would be offensive).
2. The thread points just to make everyone think that a god is not responsible for everything that happens. The same situation could arise for Christians, for Jews, and for traditionalists. Or not?

With all due respect, I do not understand the susceptibility of Manmunstwac then, the PM, and all the mysteries surrounding the closure of the thread.
Honestly, I have read threads relating to Christians, Catholics and traditionalists, with much venom, but have not had the same treatment from moderation.
My intention was not to offend, and if I offended, my apologies received.
But I would like to express my disagreement and my displeasure with the way that, without any explanation, the thread was closed.
I have read comments about the alleged bias of JeSoul, but I always thought it was some domestic strife.
I reiterate that the decision has astonished me.
Anyway, I hope this has been anecdotal.
Please accept my cordial greetings and affection.

ciphoenix: disorganization came after the last apostle died. the first century christians never did this. They were organized having overseers who visited the individual congregations. Even the last book of the bible contain chapters directed to seven congregations at the time. They knew the mosaic law(which included animal sacrifices) was no longer in effect, else they wouldn't have believed in Jesus.

Dear Friend.
It is not my interest to discuss.
The struggles between the various Christian groups was very hard.
There were no common concepts, not common liturgy ...
Not be considered a "Christian cult" to something that did not exist as such.
Who organized the "original Christianity" was the Catholic Church.
Can not be considered to Christians (followers of Christ) in the first century, as a religion.
I should clarify that I am not Catholic.
My respects.

CrazyMan: Maybe you should ask the muslim god yourself...we don't speak the same language, so it would be very impossible for me to establish a communication.

So accept my apologies, because I can't be of any help.

You do not speak the same language as the god muslim?
Or you do not speak the same language as me?

Callotti: When the HOLY GHOST eja-ku-lates!

God!
its terrible!

Madawaki01: If Jesus was
GOD, then why in Mark
12:29 did Jesus say, "Here,
O Israel: The Lord our
God is one Lord." The
words "our God" indicate
that Jesus had a higher
God over him, a stronger
God than him. Jesus didn't
say "Your God". He said
"our God" which includes
Jesus as the creation of
GOD.
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If Jesus was
GOD, then why in John
20:17 did Jesus say, "I
ascend to my God and
your God? This tells us
that we and Jesus have a
common GOD.
Muslim: If Jesus was
GOD, then why in John
14:28 did Jesus say, "My
Father (GOD) is greater
than I"?

They will not respond.
In the best case, they will change the subject.
Very good post!
My respects.

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Only by way of example:

PAGAN 9JA:
look how biaed OP is. P wont care if all Northern Tribes died out, as long as they are not christian.

this abrahamic religions are creating rifts between us tribals.

Yes, exactly.
For the fans, the lives of some, is worth more than the lives of others ...
The destruction and the death are the only rules of these foreign religions

fuelsaver: Upgrade in order to escape the oppressions and afflictions

Tsk, tsk...
Olaa...

I came to think that you were fairly intelligent.
Now I understand what I estimated about you.
Someone intelligent, can not write such nonsense, and paste the same silly drawing dozens of times.
Think Olaa my sound advice, and comment on your psychiatrist.

Two religions imported, currently cancer Nigeria.
They have not brought peace, no love, no progress, but misery, hatred and death.
my respects

frosbel: Now we wait for the adherents of this Satanic club to start shouting we are a religion of peace.

How sad and anti-God this wicked club is.

Fros:
Do not you understand it personally, because it is not.
But I understand that religious fanaticism is the great evil of Nigeria.
Setting fire to a mosque or a church, there is no more reason but less reason.
Many times, many articles are written in the forum, inciting violence ...
Violence begets violence ...
The life of a human being should be on top of any belief.
The blame for these situations are not atheists, or traditionalists, neither Christians nor Muslims ... but the fans.
Respect for others, we respect human life.
No god can to endorse aggression.
my respects

political map of South America.

http://mapas.owje.com/politico/4/mapa-politico-america-del-sur.php

Religious fanaticism is to blame for all this.
Since I joined this forum, I see the huge perplexed religious fanaticism that exists in .
No burning is burning churches and mosques as will move forward Nigeria ...
I do not believe that a god is proud of who murders a man to believe in any god ... On the contrary, I believe that the Christian God or the Islamic God must be angry with those who commit these acts!
I do not think it necessary to pray for Nigeria , I think Nigerians should make of tolerance their principal cult .
Europeans and Arabs brought their services to Africa.
Now, Africans kill each other because of those cults.
A contradiction, since we're talking about religions that are supposedly peace.
My respects.

nakash: Dear Christian, Muslims kill because they should according to what their prophet them 1400 years ago. I just apologised to Xtians here who might get offended coz I am vulgar though not like muhammad.

I am not a Christian.
I am not Muslim.

Surely, you are of those who insult and blaspheme the internet, but personally, hide in the shadows of his room.

In all honesty, I think the moderators have been too lenient with you.
I ended dialogue here.
Find your peace. You need it.

ciphoenix: correction. Christianity was before Catholicism the disciples whom Jesus left behind weren't Catholic, and they never celebrated any of those holidays. Catholicism actually was born after John, the last of the apostles died in the 2nd century C.E. And i never said the holidays were non pagan; they are, and true Christians shouldn't celebrate such. Much Respect

Correction.
After the death of Christ, the different Christian sects fought for supremacy. Who gets the priority is Catholicism. Completely disappeared Christian groups who were not Catholics, and were never organized.
Christianity as such, (and you know) is back to Catholicism.
Anyway, you remember those first "Christians" were totally divided, and many of these groups still practiced sacrifices of animals and people, according to what we know today as the Old Testament.
My greatest respect.

seriallink: 1. Haha!


2. The Lord is coming for your azz with the double-edged sword there would be no ecaping it repent now before it's too late! That's my little advice for ya

3. Peace

1. I'm glad that a Christian smile. Generally they like to suffer, it is a way to win paradise.

2. A god with a double-edged sword? Excuse me, but I would love to be the last thing a god ... so bloodthirsty murderer ... that God needs a sword ... I think it has very few powers then ... Is that the reason why that god killed, humiliating him and hanging him on a cross? Where is the power of that god?

3. Peace? Talk of peace who worships a god who lifts a double-edged sword? Your peace is sickening.
You mature, you grow, you give reasons. No assaults those who disagree with you. Find a religion that gives you peace of mind.
Meanwhile, look for a psychologist. You need it.

When they talk about the Sword of God, I guess something different ...

ciphoenix: Do you mean origin of christianity or origin of catholicism. those holidays aren't christian in any way. Including the images

Christianity is a division of Catholicism.
The various Pentecostal groups, not just happen, but are different sects of Christianity that broke off.
Thus the pagan origin of Catholicism, resulting in the pagan origins of Christianity.
You've seen a Christian pastor, removing a demon from a person? 5000 years ago, African traditional religion practices performed similar ...
Not only Christianity has pagan origins, but also Christianity.
On what date Christians commemorate the birth of Jesus?
It is absolutely proven that imposibe that Jesus was born on December 25 ...
I hope that is clear.
My respects!

nakash: I ventilate here after the Muslims kicked me out of their section because I was telling them the truth about their prophet. I use vulgar words directly from Islamic sources. I want you to realise that no muslim who is faithful to his religion can ever be your friend. Islam allows lies to kufr as long as it promotes jihad.islam is not a religion of peace but one of turning the whole world into one global islamic caliphate. Forgive me for my obscene langauge here because someone has to do it, someone has to call out Islam for what it is - fake sexist religion created by a sex obsessed monster which continues to kill, maim, mutilate, behead, rape, sodomise, burn,bomb, enslave etc till today.

You believe that the Islamic saying, you are making an apology for the Christians?
You share a very wrong concept.
I am not Muslim, but I do not think that all Muslims are dumb, I do not think all Muslims are terrorists ...
I'm not Christian, but I do not think that's why Christians are better.
If you do not accept a religion, it just did not follow, but you have no reason to be insulting and obscene.
You speak ill of Islam, not become better Christians.
Again, I am not a Christian and I am not a Islamic.
I understand that the forum can (and should) defend our position, but need not offend anyone free.
At least that's what I think.
Peace and Tolerance

Not only is the pagan origin as to the dates, but also in the services, clothing, and even art.

My respects.

OLAADEGBU: If the issue of the LGBT and deportation is what you are concerned about then you are entitled to vote for the POTUS.

I'm not worried about deportation.
I do not live in USA (I would never live in such a country!)
But think Olaa, the Mormon is a fascist, and that people love to drive Mexicans and blacks ...
Possibly many of the Mormon group, are the KKK
And your doing propaganda for him ...
Bah!

Pastor Kun: You mean honorarium this rubbish only happens in pentecostal churches were 99% of their pastors are in it for the money and influence.

99%?
You are very considerate of those pastors Lol ...

Question: What were Jesus' fees?

My respects!

Catholic rituals: Christian or pagan?



In this article, dear reader, I want to make you my sense of surprise, as we study this issue and understand that most of the holidays, called Christian, pagan have a background and therefore no biblical justification.

After the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, Christians, Jewish tradition, only celebrating the Resurrection and Pentecost, as we reflected in the very Word of God: "For Paul had decided to spend ahead of Ephesus, by not stopping at Asia: for he hasted make the day of Pentecost, if he could, in Jerusalem "(Acts 20.16)," But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost "(1 Corinthians 16.. It was later, from the third century AD, when they begin to commemorate holidays, now we all know.

Overall, then wanted to assimilate Christianity, not in substance, but in form, the ancient pagan celebrations, including them in their rites, but realized that was impossible and that they walked away from the will of God wants his people to avoid contamination with the rituals of the world. As much as you change the names of pagan deities by names of "saints", "Virgin" or even the "Lord", the background was the same, as discussed below.

I will analyze, far above, some of the central holiday of Catholicism:


CHRISTMAS AND EPIPHANY

Until the fourth century of our era did not begin to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, but without specifying, by tradition a fixed date. So, there were two dates: December 25 and January 6. The first is to be instituted in the Western Roman Empire, while the second it was in the East. However, these dates are not chronologically with certainty the true birth date of Jesus Christ, but if you have a match with the pagan festivals of traditional religions, both Roman and Hellenistic (including Egypt).

Let's analyze them separately:


December 25: It was known in the Western empire as the winter solstice holiday, therefore a pagan cult. It celebrated the end of the shortening of the nights and the triumph of the "sun god", with lengthening of the day. It was between 324-325 D. C. when they decided their institution as Christian holiday, from the onset of winter commemorate the birth of the Savior.

Another important festival coincided in time and was celebrating the birth of Horus, or the resurrection of Osiris, born of a virgin (Isis) and remained a virgin after the birth, but this is the subject of another article.


Jan. 6: It was the commemoration date of the "Feast of Light" at this event celebrating the birth of the Sun, and in Alexandria, the night of 5 to 6 January recalled the birth of Time, Aion, with a torchlight procession to the temple of Korion. In the procession sang the following song "The virgin has given birth, the light increases, the Virgin has given the Light, the Aion". This cult passes and Greek culture throughout the empire ritualized Greek.

As for his Christianity, in the Eastern Empire, as at present in the Greek Orthodox religion, celebrating the birth of Jesus, while in the West establishing the feast of Epiphany or visitation of the Magi.




PARTY NAME OF THE LORD: ENMANUEL

This festival is celebrated on the first day of the year, coinciding with the classical pagan festival of the new year.




S.JOHN BAUTIST

Its celebration coincides with the summer solstice, ie June 24. This was one of the main days of pagan religions, the day of worship "sun god". It was a feast spread throughout the ancient world, based on the cult of Ra, the sun god for the Egyptians, whose deity was taken under different names by helena cultures, first, and then by the Romans.

The ritual was similar to today, in the night, the shortest of the year, which had lit fires to jump as an act of interior purification and liberation of sins and evil spirits. In his Christianization, obviously remains so; is applied to John the Baptist, the prophet who preached the baptism of repentance for sins.



EASTER

As Christmas parties, their commemoration begins in the fourth century D. C. and as it is also based on a pagan celebration, the worship of the god Attis, celebrating his death and subsequent resurrection.

Our Lord does not command us to remember his death and resurrection in a special way on a certain date, but if we take commemorate the sacrament




EASTER

The celebration of Easter is always celebrated on the first Sunday following the first full moon of spring, so changing character. Well, this event is similar to another Egyptian who held the same day, to commemorate the entrance of Osiris into the Moon.




FEAST OF 15 AUGUST

For Catholicism on this day we celebrate the ascension of Mary into heaven. This, like most of those who are analyzing here, no biblical basis, it is a tradition that until 1950 has not been the subject of dogma of Faith

As in all festivals pagan analyzed has a match, in mid-August was celebrated in ancient Greece and Rome, the cult of Hecate - Artemis - Diana, "Goddess of the Moon and Queen of Heaven", in order to prevent send storms that are so harmful to the crops at this time.




Local festivals

In all locations, both European and American, have always held local parties on behalf of a Marian devotion or a saint, patron of the town. This tradition has its background again pagan, since before the entry of the Christian faith as the official religion, the towns had a deity "patron" infuse them protection and of course, had their commemorations. So, as most of the festivities was Christianized removed the supposed protection of a pagan deity, from its supposed protection of a saint or Mary herself, in one of his many titles.




ALL SAINTS AND SOULS

On the eve of November 1 coincided with a holiday, pagan, Celtic, the "Samhein" feast marking the end of summer and harvest, to pass the days of cold and darkness. On that night it was believed that the god of death to return to the dead, allowing communicate well with their ancestors. Also this practice was common in the Roman people, as on February 21 celebrating the feast of "Feralia" helping with prayers for peace and rest of their dead.

In the Catholic tradition the festival begins when the "Pope" Boniface IV, 13 May 609 or 610, consecrated the "Pantheon" the cult of the "Virgin and martyrs", beginning a celebration to commemorate those saints anonymous, unknown to most of Christendom, but by faith and works, are worthy of recognition by all mankind.

Is Pope Gregory III (731-741) which changes the date of May 13 to November 1. And we know why, and make sure the conversion, at any cost, of these peoples, adopting pagan practices.



As you have read, there are clear reasons to reject such festivities, since none of them is based on the Word of God and therefore, this is pagan rites, that if Christianized, but Christian spiritual feeling.

I think what the Lord wants us to celebrate, if you happened to you, every man his Pentecost, ie birth again and give thanks daily for this great advent, for Christ dwells in us through His Spirit.

Source http://perso.wanadoo.es/fcomorillo/catolico/rituales.htm

Regards

chukwudi44: but the only valid baptism
is in river water or sea

Can you please substantiate this assertion and why did you refer to cathplicism as a cult?

1. I'm Pentecostal, so I should not explain why baptism should be done in river water or sea. Only assert that the baptism performed with water "from the tap", chlorinated, is an invention. That there is nothing sacred.

2. Catholicism emerges from an original religion, which is the Jewish religion. Any religious group that deviates from its original root, is considered a sect. In fact, each group Pentecostal (Christian) are also sects that broke away from Catholicism.
There is nothing offensive about the word "sect"

My respects.

plappville: Na waooh u tough ooo, where did you forge this qoute from??

Possibly you wish it were not so ... But Jews have contempt for Africans. Feel even more disregard than the Europeans.

nedu2000: luis suarez is dis U̶̲̥̅̊?lemme get ur autograph,lolzzz

We're talking about serious, sensitive and do it with respect.
I you do not call "Idi Amin Dada" ... understand?
I explained that white Uruguayans call each other "black" in a loving way ... white babies are called "little black (negrito)" in a loving ...
Of course, you go to a black saying "black" in a derogatory manner, is an insult. But I have black friends, that they call themselves "black." In Uruguay, the blackness is an honor, not a reason for disdain.
I do not defend Luis Suarez, I'm not talking about football, but about something else.
Your speech was very unhappy.
My respects.

TerryCarr: what??

Really ....
There is pride ... but would not change.
My country is very small, but has wonderful things.
If I could choose, I would choose to be born in Montevideo, Uruguay.
There is contempt for anyone, is a matter of affection to my country.
My respects.

m.k.o2005:
PAGAN,PTOLOMEUS and mac daddy 01: I told them ! Jesus a co creator of the heavens and earth never instructed us to kill anyone by the use of any means.

Thanks for the fame.

Yes ... Possibly Jesus commanded to kill anyone ...
They murdered, raped and tortured in the name of Jesus, Catholics and Christians. They did it in all times and in all parts of the world ... Regardless of whether they were men, women or children.
No other idea has been the cause of so many deaths, like Jesus Christ.
Even Nazism has killed many human beings, as they have the killers of Christ the King.
Sleep in peace.