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Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality, Lesbianism, All Other Sexual Pervasion Is Not Just A Sin But... by QuentinDay: 3:58am On Jan 08, 2020
Olivegreen:
You know what....come at me! I'm a devout christian and I will prove to your ignorant ass that homosexuality is not a sin but a subject that has been misunderstood for centuries
Where is you proving to the ignorant ass that homosexuality is not a sin but a subject that has been misunderstood for centuries?
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by QuentinDay:
seunnix41:
just cool
True
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by QuentinDay:
LordReed:
Dude work with what you've been given and stop bothering my mentions with this. The verses are there what else are you looking for?
Dantedasz:
undecided undecided undecided
Give just a bible verse. He doesn’t need the swamp of verses you are trying to hide in. Is giving a bible verse something you both find difficult to do? You both are afraid you'll be taken to the cleaners, if you should dare present the requested single verse.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by QuentinDay:
CharlyG1:
Happy Sunday to everyone. I greet you all in the name of Jesus.

The Lord gave me a message to share on evil guardian spirits.
I pray it blesses you all. I will do my best to make this as short as possible, so this message will be broken down in THREE parts.

I cover everyone here that reads this in the blood of Jesus.
May your spirits, souls and bodies be guarded by the power in the blood of Jesus. Amen


PART 1
GUARDIAN SPIRITS (evil)

Continued in Part 2..
CharlyG1:
PART 2 GUARDIAN SPIRITS (evil)
Guardian Spirits are master coaches in acts of evil, teaching and guiding their victims deeper into their own weaknesses and worldly desires.
A haughty person will become more proud than ever as long as this spirit remains.
A hot-tempered person will become more hot-tempered as long as this spirit remains.
The job of this spirit is to enhance the sin rate in a person’s life and torment a person’s life, shooting down their blessings thereby causing near-success syndrome and delays in a person’s life.


Continued in Part 3..
CharlyG1:
PART 3
GUARDIAN SPIRITS (evil) angry
As I said earlier on. This spirit come in benevolent ways, usually dressed in white flowing gowns like good angels, but they come with an evil motive to harm a person, and indoctrinate a person to a false path. They cause injuries, sickness, failures, near-success syndrome, delays, slow growth etc. They love to victimize people by tormenting them and cutting off God’s blessings from coming into their lives. God blesses every one of His children at all times, but these guardian spirits are responsible for cutting off some of those blessings from coming to a person.

SO in conclusion,

A person must expose their sins and not hide them. It is the first and ultimate step to exposing this spirit. Expose the sin! You can inform your spouse, close friend (in Christ) or your church pastor… Anyone close to you that you know can help someway somehow. They will support you in prayers and fasting. Burn your sinful desires. You must be disciplined and work towards stopping all habitual sins.


If this spirit has found a way into your life by some other means other than habitual sin, then you need to be born again in the first place and then engage in warfare prayers or a deliverance session.

Evil guardian spirits are fallen angels, and they are very malevolent and deceptive, that is why it is good to be able to differentiate between God’s own angel and a false angel like the spirit guides. So here are a few tips.

TIPS ON KNOWING TRUE/FALSE ANGELS
1. God’s angels cannot be summoned. Only false angels can.
2. God’s angels cannot and must not be prayed to or worshipped. Only false angels desire this.
3. God’s angels cannot be instructed by a person. Only false angels take instructions from their victim (initiates)
4. God’s angels always bring God’s message to a person, the message IS always in correlation with the word of God in the scriptures. False angels cook lies with half-truths, interpreting the scriptures upside down for deceptive and evil gains.
5. God’s angels do not attach themselves to a person, neither do they create a personal relationship with a person. Only false angels do such.


It is no possible for me to explain all I know about this topic here.
But the Holy Ghost is our Teacher and He will guide us into all truth. John 16:13.
Amen.
Please read up 1 John 4:1-2, 2 Corinthians 11:14, Ephesians 6:12
"'Do not turn to spirits of the dead (i.e. ghosts),
and do not inquire of familiar spirits, to be defiled by them.
I am the LORD your God.

- Leviticus 19:31

10There shall not be found among you any one that makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,
or that uses divination, or sorcery, or interprets omens, or is a witch,
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer

- Deuteronomy 18:10-11

Someone may say to you,
"Let's ask them that have familiar spirits and those who consult the spirits of the dead.
With their whisperings and mutterings, they will tell us what to do."
But shouldn't people ask God for guidance?
Should the living seek guidance from the dead
?
- Isaiah 8:19

Then Saul said to his servants,
"Seek me a woman who has a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and inquire of her."
His servants said to him,
"Behold, there is a woman who has a familiar spirit at Endor."

- 1 Samuel 28:7

So Saul died for his trespass which he committed against the LORD,
because of the word of the LORD, which he did not keep;
and also because he asked counsel of one who had a familiar spirit, to inquire thereby

- 1 Chronicles 10:13

This she (i.e. clairvoyant girl with a familiar spirit) persisted in for a considerable time,
until Paul, wearied out, turned round and said to the spirit,
"I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her."
And it came out immediately

- Acts 16:18

30Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"
He answered, "Legion (i.e. Six Thousand demons had entered him)
31The demons begged Jesus not to order them to go into the bottomless pit

- Luke 8:30-31

For those not having the grace & patience to continue reading through the whole parts 1-3,
the above mentioned self explanatory scriptures & the appended notes encapsulates the most important aspects or practical details in each part

Leviticus 19:31 and Deuteronomy 18:10-11 shows,
God is against dabbling into spiritism and/or clairvoyance
Enjoying clairvoyance or entertaining the companies of familiar spirits is a complete no-no and a no-go area

Isaiah 8:19 shows that,
believers are expected to go directly to God and look only to Him for enlightenment. Any other means, expressively is disallowed

1 Samuel 28:7 and 1 Chronicles 10:13 shows,
how foolhardy it is dabbling into spiritism or engaging the services of a consulter with familiar spirits

Acts 16:18 shows that,
no matter how lucrative or advantageous clairvoyance is or dabbling into spiritism or romanticising with familiar spirits may be,
these familiar spirits &/or demons parading & disgusing as guardian angels buckle under the command & mention of the name of Jesus Christ
and get exorcised, driven out, completely removed from one's mind, memory or place.

Luke 8:30-31 shows that,
unlike the spirit in Acts 16:18 above, some demons or familiar spirits aren't only scary (e.g. 1 Samuel 28:12) but can be actively aggressive
but thanks to God, the good news, the gospel, is that demons or familiar spirits can be calmed down and told to go to hell, literally.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 10:12pm On Aug 31, 2016
frank317:
Hunger leads to armed robbery too, is hunger bad?
Where have you read anything about badness here
If you dont understand what ''fẹjumọ'' or ''fẹjumọ nkan oni nkan'' means
how would you know what ''wo nkan, gboju kuro kia mọsamọsa'' or ''sare ji nkan wo, then gboju kuro kia mọsamọsa'' means
Again but repeating here.
Are you familiar with King David and the wife of Uriah the Hittite narrative?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay:
frank317:
Too many unnecessary rules
Which too many unnecessary rules?

frank317:
that's why you guys are always at loggerhead with each other
Who you guys? Dont even go there

frank317:
If you have a dirty car wretched car or ugly flat assed woman will anyone wish to have it?
Regardless if the car is wretched or notable, why would anyone wish to have your car. Given half a chance, will surely rob you of it
Right thinking and sensible person will admire your car, compliment you for it and then wish they have their own car to be as good as yours if not better

frank317:
Why buy build a beautiful house only to get angry when someone wishes it was theirs?
Listen next time armed robbers or squatters turn up at your beautiful house wishing your house is theirs, please dont get angry and dont discourage them from wishing your house is theirs

frank317:
I see a girl with a nice ass or a sweet ride and wish it was mine, ur God puts me in herll for that
I will repeat my first post submitted on the topic responding to OP:
Admiring a certain woman's nyash.....your neighbour's.....And you arent married to the particular woman isnt committing a sin
You only be needing help, the moment you start lusting after her

frank317:
How does one admires something without lusting for it?
You admire something without lusting for it with self-restraint

frank317:
There are emotions we are helpless to
Of course, if you're weak, if you lack self-discipline, lack self-mastery, lack self-control you'll be helpless
Strong people admire women nyash end of story, without giving in to any compromising thoughts except give credit, thanks and glory to God for allowing the existence of such an eye-catching female specimen as good as what's just being observed

frank317:
I see a person's sweet ride and wish I was driving mine... Is that not the same thing?
It is not the same thing
and its not the same thing because you are not coveting someone's else sweet ride
but you wished driving your sweet ride, and not the other person's sweet ride

frank317:
Why should u wish u were driving ur own car after seeing another's car?
You wished so because you want your own car and not the other person's car you've just saw
I wish having my own wife, after seeing another man's wife
I want my own wife, and do not want another man's wife
I will be coveting, if I wanted another man's wife
The covetousness will grow into lust and potentially turn into committing fornication or adultery if not checked

frank317:
Who are we deceiving here?
You tell us.
Are you familiar with King David and the wife of Uriah the Hittite narrative?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 10:48pm On Aug 30, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I prepared an acerbic riposte to this but for some reason it wasn't delivered;
so I just figured that the Universe did not want me to engage in a 'war' with you tonight.
Try not to respond again.
https://s21.postimg.org/9nek6meb7/Joker_clap.gif
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 9:45pm On Aug 30, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I 'cc'ed' you on the 28th of July
So?
I replied back when it suited me, it's not like you gave a deadline date for replying

Ranchhoddas:
Didirin!
I knew it is a matter of time before you stop behaving in a level-headed manner
Bet you're not just immature on the internet, but you are in real life as well
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 8:44pm On Aug 30, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I no get your time now
Too bad because I made and set time aside for you to receive sense on what you cc'ed me about

Ranchhoddas:
You can go
Yeah, when I see you leave with tail between legs
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 8:29pm On Aug 30, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Why the hell will I be displeased that someone wishes to have what I have?
The person should wish to have their own, not wish to what you have
Still on the matter, someone should wish to have their own wife, and not wish to have someone's else wife
Capisce?
Why are you yọbọrọ, like slippery eel or catfish nau?

Ranchhoddas:
It will only mean that I have something good.
Abi dem dey 'fejumo' bad thing?
Potentially fẹjumọ leads murder, fẹjumọ leads to armed robbery, fẹjumọ leads to car-jacking, fẹjumọ leads to etcetera

Ranchhoddas:
All the 'I claim it, I receive it' wey una dey shout for church no be 'fejumo'? Abeg talk well.
If you no get wetin to talk blow whistle. Thank you
Watching paint drying would be more stimulating than reading this bore
Swerve and stay in your lane, if you dont know the difference between WoF ''I claim it, I receive it'' doctrine and ''fẹjumọ nkan oni nkan'' bad behaviour

Ranchhoddas:
If I am walking on the road and I see the latest model Bugatti Veyron bride in town,
will it also be lust if I imagine myself driving it humping the bride or wished that I owned it the bride is mine?
Cc QuentinDay
I've used a bit of dramatic license in your original post where you cc'ed me on it, to highlight the indefensible in it
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay:
Ranchhoddas:
This thing wey you talk now e make sense to you?
Let's break it down for you then.

Will you be pleased if someone covets and/or lusts after anything that is yours.

Covetousness is wrongly desiring someone's else wealth, possession etcetera

Covetousness is the mother of lust.

Why don't you imagine having and driving your own car, instead of imagining driving someone's else car or to "fejumo" someone's else car
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 12:23am On Aug 30, 2016
CHARLOE:
Plz where is DAT baaad gif
Even if you're doing it just to release after a stressful day
and have no intention of sleeping with the actress in the gif, it apparently, is a sin to admire the woman's nyash in DAT baaad gif.

So in effect, the gif has had the unfortunate and inescapable ill-fated decision of getting removed
and unceremoniously condemned to languish in Nairaland's burning fiery furnace
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay:
Seun:
1. Can I have weak or moderate sexual desire for any woman?
What is the threshold at which normal healthy sexual desire becomes lust?
Are you asking these questions on behalf of the Kinsey Institute

Seun:
2. So I can have a strong sexual desire for a woman I'm in a relationship with?
Of course, yes, why not.

Seun:
My wife?
Yes and when you have the strong thirst, you drink the water to quench the thirst

Let your fountain be blessed and enjoy the wife of your youth
- Proverbs 5:18

You can enjoy having strong sexual desire for all and what is rightfully yours

Seun:
My fiancee?
No

Seun:
My girlfriend?
No

"I have made an agreement with my eyes. Then how can I look with lust at a virgin?
- Job 31:1

Seun:
My friend with benefits?
LOL, ''friend with benefits''
You mean glorified prostitute, glorified call girl, glorified olosho or glorified Follow. No

Why the need for FWB?

Why spill the water of your springs in the streets, having sex with just anyone?
- Proverbs 5:16

Seun:
3. Is pornography ok
What brought ''whether pornography is ok'' into this discourse
Put it this way, lascivious viewing or reading of pornography of any sort is not OK

Everything is permissible for me," but not everything is helpful.
"Everything is permissible for me," but I will not be brought under the control of anything."

- 1 Corinthians 6:12

Sanitised pornography could be OK (e.g. research or education purposes) for some
but it isn't to say sanitised pornography can be recommended to all or helpful to everyone

Sanitised pornography, could be OK and could be handled well by some
but it isn't to say everyone can resist being put under the control of pornography

Seun:
as long as you're doing it just to release after a stressful day and have no intention of sleeping with the actresses?
Some have a low pornography threshold and so get easily stimulated with sexual desire and/or sexual arousal

If choking the chicken is how you chose to wind down after a hard day work,
then sanitised pornography can be permissible within an accepted bounds, that you have no intention of sleeping with the actresses and/or wont go fantasizing over the actresses

However, if you cannot control your desires, you should get married.
It is better for you to marry than to burn
[with sexual desire]
- 1 Corinthians 7:9

Why not consider the benefit in the marriage solution instead of solo sex?
It would limit needing to whack the weasel
Two people are better off than the one hand in ''me time''

Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed
- Ecclesiastes 4:9
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay:
Ranchhoddas:
If I am walking on the road and I see the latest model Bugatti Veyron, will it also be lust if I imagine myself driving it or wished that I owned it? Cc QuentinDay
Someone walking on road imagining driving your newly bought latest model Bugatti Veyron
or that person wished that they owned your newly latest model Bugatti Veyron bought with your sweat, blood and hard-earned money is coveting what is not theirs

Covetousness is wrongly desirous of someone's wealth or possessions

That's how armed car robbery or car-jacking is birthed, out of greediness or covetousness before developing into lust of eyes and lust of the flesh

Rightly imagine yourself one day, driving your own latest model Bugatti Veyron
or rightly wish you'll one day, own your latest model Bugatti Veyron and not ''fejumo'' someone's else
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 7:12am On Jul 28, 2016
AnonyNymous:
That picture. . . nice ass tho. . . make Seun catch you
Real and strong men just appreciate and think nothing more of such a picture like that
the weak however might quaver and crumble the mere sight of such a good workmanship such as that
Maybe I am tempting fate
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 7:09am On Jul 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Lust is different from admiration .
Ranchhoddas:
What's the difference.
They dont necessarily have anything in common

Lust is to covet, desiring that specific something that belongs to another
having strong sexual desire for someone that you arent married or having relationship with

Admiration is regarding something as impressive or worthy of respect as Seun was alluding
having respect and warm approval for anything without any degree of lust or uncontrollable sexual desire
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin To Admire A Woman's Big Nyash? by QuentinDay: 6:05am On Jul 28, 2016
Rossikk:
Pls.. I need to know if i'm committing a sin by admiring a certain woman's nyash.....my neighbour.....And we're not married.... Pls help! undecided
When I admire someone's car, a parked or passing car, I do not covet it
Admiring a certain woman's nyash.....your neighbour's.....And you arent married to the particular woman isnt committing a sin
You only be needing help, the moment you start lusting after her

Seun:
If God created the yansh in question, how can it be wrong to admire it and worship God for it?
Word, nothing wrong, but some men arent strong enough to resist ''idi to nsọrọ''
So instead of oggling, in order not to commit sin, like the classic King David-Bathsheba adultery,
sometimes, it is just good to kiamọsa, look away
followed by immediately vacate self from the vicinity of ''sex on legs talking behinds'' like this.
BusinessRe: Folorunsho Alakija’s 65th Birthday Party In Pictures by QuentinDay: 3:01pm On Jul 17, 2016
jericco1:
well not bad.....she certainly has the money.
well it is bad, and none should be condoning lightskin bleaching.... she certainly has the lieskin as well
BusinessRe: Folorunsho Alakija’s 65th Birthday Party In Pictures by QuentinDay:
https://s32.postimg.org/4glkdvnyd/Alakija.jpg
ireneony:
Too much bleaching
Well she has the money to maintain the skin lightening or bleaching, but pray it doesnt become or turn to a health risk

dytbabe:
All I want is just that piece on her neck
If you covet what's inside her head, you will have loads of the piece on her neck and lose count

Jacko01:
If a billionaire can bleach
Infact all you ladiee have license to bleach
Bleach dey go
Billionsnaire wrongs, dont make a right, lightening the skin reduces the amount of melanin in the skin
- cancer will not be her portion in Jesus name

In fact, skin lightening or bleaching is a license for cancer to kill

jericco1:
she didn't bleach
She fanstastically bleached
Notice covered up with makeup, the two acnes on her rosy cheeks, those are tell tale signs of bleaching
Christianity EtcRe: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by QuentinDay: 12:37pm On May 17, 2016
MrPresident1:
My point is to show you all that there was no temple, if you can go through the references I have given you will see that there was no temple. There was no building called the temple of God
Mark 13:1-4 among plenty others disagrees

MrPresident1:
The Wailing Wall as a part Solomon's temple or it's being the holiest place in the world is a COMPLETE LIE!
Yup, no different to Santa Klaus or the tooth fairy

MrPresident1:
We are all living in a fake and concocted Matrix of lies.
Yup just like the Father Christmas and tooth fairy pack of lies

MrPresident1:
You do not need to read from many translations, you need only the KJV
KJV isnt infallible

MrPresident1:
The Bible has been deliberately mistranslated to keep the true contents of the book from its owners. If the light of the Word of God does not shine on the true owners of the Bible, the biblical Israelites, the Negros, they cannot arise from the dead. But they will surely arise, it is the infallible promise of THE MOST HIGH GOD. ISRAEL WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD, IN GOD'S EYES, SHE HAS ALREADY RISEN wink
Bible translations are politically and vested interest translated which is why the rule of thumb is to look and compare as many translations as possible then match each with the original in Hebrew or Greek to make an arrived best judgment

MrPresident1:
1 Corinthians 6:19
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [/size]which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
Reading in isolation is a pretext and not only gives a false sense of comprehension but open to manipulation or misrepresenting the truth.
Reading text in context is wise.

MrPresident1:
There was no free standing physical structure/building called the Temple of God; the house of God is Jerusalem itself, and the temple of God were the Jews in Jerusalem.
LOL Yimu
Christianity EtcRe: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by QuentinDay:
MrPresident1:
You are using a deliberately mistranslated Bible, go and get KJV

I said earlier in the second post on this thread 'It opens up depths of meaning for ‘Jesus going into the temple’, ‘and the veil of the temple was rent in twain’ etc.'
Presidente trust me, I laid out as many translations including KJV as possible before responding to the post
Hiero or hieron means a holy shrine or temple, no contesting.

''and the veil of the temple was rent in twain'' was rent into two, as the Holy of Holies curtain was ripped or torn apart making way to see the inner sanctuary
because now all, NOT JUST ONLY THE PRIESTS, have direct access to come BOLDLY to the throne of grace and approach it with confidence to obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need
Each now, without human intermediary or without need of human go-between, have direct access to God, just as it was in the beginning, particularly as was with Adam before the fall
Christianity EtcRe: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by QuentinDay: 10:56am On May 17, 2016
MrPresident1:
It is all imagery and symbolism, your worship is the good deeds you extended to your neighbours.

Many people travel on pilgrimage to Israel every year to pray at the so-called Wailing Wall, supposedly the holiest place in the world, because it is the site of the God’s temple that was destroyed in 70AD by the Romans.
You have been scammed, there was no temple. The Most High God does not live in temples made with human hands, the heart of man is the temple of God.

The Wailing Wall is the ruins of an old Roman fortress, it was not a temple, it is not the ruins of Solomon's temple, the whole world has been deceived, you Negroes have been scammed of your heritage!

Does anyone understand the true ramifications of this revelation and insight into the Word? It shows that much of the Bible is imagery. It opens up depths of meaning for ‘Jesus going into the temple’, ‘and the veil of the temple was rent in twain’ etc.
Mark 13:1-4
1As Jesus was leaving the Temple that day,
one of his disciples said, “Teacher, look at these magnificent buildings! Look at the impressive stones in the walls.”
2Jesus replied, “Yes, look at these great buildings. But they will be completely demolished. Not one stone will be left on top of another!”
3Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives across the valley from the Temple. Peter, James, John, and Andrew came to him privately and asked him,
4“Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will show us that these things are about to be fulfilled?”

Yimu at ''There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was The Temple Of God''
Christianity EtcRe: Contra Bibliolatreia I Mark 10:5 by QuentinDay:
PastorAIO what stream of expletive(s) or violation was in your above post that made it auto-hidden by the Anti-SpamBot?
It possibly handed you a temporary Religion section posting ban too. Coolu temper. Sorry o.
Christianity EtcRe: Contra Bibliolatreia I Mark 10:5 by QuentinDay:
PastorAIO:
I want some of whatever you're smoking
My apologies, no can do, sorry cant help you with your covetousness besides the surgeon general's warning is that smoking is hazardous to your health. Smoking hurts yourself, and hurts others

PastorAIO:
Does it help you to see the leprechauns better?
Irrelevant and rising above this a bit offhand ''see leprechauns better'' remark

PastorAIO:
Please guy, there was no bible in the time of Eve so Eve cannot be a Bibliolater. In fact no one in the bible can be a bibliolater
LOL going by your reasoning, Eve cannot be a Bibliolater and in fact no one in the bible can be a bibliolater because the Bible wasnt written then. Abi? Isnt that your reasoning Eve and others in the Bible cannot be Bibliolaters?
OK, Eve was the first literalist then. Happy now with the modification?

PastorAIO:
What has any of this got to do with Moses laws on divorce?
Just as Moses ordinance on divorce, was not issued from God but rather were a compromise to the recalcitrant disposition of the Israelites, so was ''do not touch it'' not issued from God but rather was Adam guarding against a possible disposition of Eve to go against a command with fatal consquences

PastorAIO:
Where did Adam tell Eve not to 'touch it'?
Before Genesis 3:3 is where Adam told Eve not to 'touch it'
Who except from Adam will Eve have got the ''do not touch it'' directive from

PastorAIO:
You're doing a lot of guessing and tinkering with the original text yourself.
Deductive reasoning. Deductive reasoning my dear friend and nothing with doing a lot of guessing and tinkering with the original text
Example:
It is the only other human, Adam or the only talking animal, serpent who could have told Eve about not to touch the fruit of the tree
but the serpent did not talk to Eve about not to touch the fruit of the tree
so it is Adam who talked to Eve about not to touch the fruit of the tree then

PastorAIO:
I have no gripe with any human being doing his best under the circumstances he finds himself in
Considering that ''human being doing his best under the circumstances'' is done totally above board then nor do I have no gripe over the matter

PastorAIO:
My gripe is with people worshiping the words of the bible and claiming that they were written by God.
Quit griping, the words of the bible are not to be worshipped, as it is advised you must worship the LORD your God and serve only Him.

You also need to get a firm grasp of the proper meaning of 2 Timothy 3:16 and how it relates or is connected to scripture or the words of the bible

Noticeably, you my dear friend, you are mixing up statutes, ordinances and decrees of God with ''written word by God''
Twice has God, in any shape or form actually written words.
The first time was with His finger, on two tablets at Mount Sinai
and the second time was when Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground, again with His finger

PastorAIO:
I won't do any speculating and guessing. You're doing a fine job of it all by yourself.
As you please

PastorAIO:
Okay. I have no beef with that, again. Every human being has the right to purposefully lay down guidelines for the good of the people in their care to prevent problems, screw ups, diseases, infections etc.
Glad you accept that every human being has the right to purposefully lay down guidelines for the good of the people in their care to prevent problems, screw ups, diseases, infections etc as it should settle the gripe you have with the divorce guideline set by Moses for the Israelites

PastorAIO:
That is not my beef. I repeat, My beef is the claim that it is an absolute edict from the mouth of God
I dont know your source or references to this ''absolute edict from the mouth of God'' spurious claim
Please share your source quotations or references of this. Justify yourself or forever remain silent

PastorAIO:
So was Jesus lying or what when he said that Moses gave them the law out of the hardness of their hearts?
Is this meant to be a silly joke question?

PastorAIO:
So which of the 2 laws are being referred to when Moses says it's okay to divorce your wife if she doesn't please you?
What is with the jaw locking on the 2 laws?

The 2 laws obviously have no relevance or bearing with almost all of the Israelites if not all, so much that the Pharisees told Jesus ''Moses permitted a man to write his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away'' at which Jesus told them, ''Moses wrote this guideline commandment for you because your hearts were hard'' and you had said you have no beef with that sort of ''commandment'', again because every human being has the right to purposefully lay down guidelines for the good of the people in their care to prevent problems, screw ups, diseases, infections etc

Release your grip on the 2 laws jor and peep into Exodus 20:14

It isnt ''if she doesn't please you'' the manner you're trying to make it sound or look.
Re-read about the divorce in Deuteronomy 24:1 and Mark 10:2-6 contextually.

The displeasing part in Deuteronomy 24:1 is not without a caveat. It is based on the wife becoming displeasing to the husband after he had found some uncleanness in or about his wife

No prize for guessing what the euphemism uncleanness is about

If the 2 core laws are valued, understood well enough and respected, Moses wouldnt have needed to churn out Deuteronomy 24:1
Deuteronomy 24:1, as a matter of fact, is an extension of Exodus 20:14
and that said, let's face reality, Deuteronomy 24:1 shouldn't have seen the light of day,
as God hates divorce and what God has joined together, let not man put asunder
but for the rebellion of the people, Moses was compelled to adjust the marriage goal-post width

PastorAIO:
I thought it was God that deliberately hardened Pharaoh's heart. anyway, it's irrelevant.
Technically God hardened Pharaoh's heart
but there is more to the actual meaning of God hardening Pharoah's heart
and which incidentally explains why and how God hardened Pharoah's heart

Reiterating the absence of the soakingly watering water of God, causes ''hardness of heart''
and Psalm 95:8, Hebrews 3:8 and Hebrews 3:15 confirms that rejection of God's directive causes ''hardness of heart''
Left to your sponge aka ''kankan'', it wants to dry up
but what can stop or will stop your sponge aka ''kankan'' from drying, preventing it from becoming brittle and eventually crumbling or breaking up?
(i.e. what can stop or will stop your sponge aka ''kankan'' from hardening)
Christianity EtcRe: Contra Bibliolatreia I Mark 10:5 by QuentinDay:
PastorAIO:
4They said, “Moses permitted a man TO WRITE A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY.” 5But Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6“But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE.
Mark 10:5


“When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house,
Deuteronomy 24:1

According to Jesus Moses wrote laws that were not issued from God but rather were a compromise to the recalcitrant disposition of the Israelites. Yet these laws are part of our God given biblical laws, according to some bibliolaters
Adam has a purposeful reason for adding more to God's first directive and this made Eve the first bibliolater
Notice that the serpent didnt correct Eve about taking Adam's ''touch it'' words literally
Guessing that Eve touching the fruit and not dying propelled her to eat the fruit

Moses said the LORD their God commanded him to teach the Israelites, so it was left to him to use his best effort initiative, imagination and common sense to do this

PastorAIO:
How much of the OT is a directive from God and how much is Moses' own tinkering?
How much of the OT ''You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die'' is a directive from God and how much is Adam's own tinkering?

Whatever tinkering Moses or Adam did were purposeful and were for the good of the Israelites and Eve in order to prevent trouble, problems, screw-ups, diseases, infections etc

Image123:
Moses' law was issued from God. Jesus DID NOT say that the passage did not issue from God. He only said that it was not so from the beginning. Genesis to deuteronomy is generally said to be written by Moses, it is in this context that Jesus used the name Moses. All Scripture is given by divine inspiration
Deuteronomy 5:1-3
1And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day

Deuteronomy 6:1
Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you,
that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:

The 10 commandments written by the Hand of God at Mount Horeb are part of the 613 statutes, ordinances and decrees.

The 613 statutes, ordinances and decrees including the 10 commandments are rules for the Israelites to live by

All these 613 statutes, ordinances and decrees including the 10 commandments are anchored on the Law of Christ
Those 2 Laws of Christ or commands are the core of the entire Old Testament Law.

PastorAIO:
I'm not discussing what Jesus 'DID NOT say'.
I'm discussing what Jesus said. Jesus also tells us the inspiration for the law. It was a compromise for the 'hardness of heart' of the hebrews.
Absence of the soakingly watering water of God, causes ''hardness of heart''
Rejection of God's directive causes ''hardness of heart'' and Pharaoh's hardened heart is an infamous example
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Have A Sense Of Humor? by QuentinDay:
RoyalBlak007:
Does God Laugh? Does He Think Some Of The Things Humans Do Is Funny?
Proverbs 1:24-26
24I called you so often, but you wouldn’t come.
I reached out to you, but you paid no attention.
25You ignored my advice and rejected the correction I offered.
26So I will laugh when you are in trouble!
I will mock you when disaster overtakes you—

Yes, according to Proverbs 1:26, God laughs at funny things humans do

RoyalBlak007:
Was Jesus Always Sorrowful
Jesus groaned and wept in John 11:33 and John 11:35

RoyalBlak007:
And Serious In His Ministry?
Jesus was seriously whipping and overturning merchandise tables over and in the way scattering the money changers' coins in John 2:15 and Matthew 21:12

RoyalBlak007:
On the Other Hand, Was He Sometimes Playful and Fun To Be With?
Jesus in Matthew 19:14 John 13:23 so much shows Jesus sometimes was playful and fun to be with

RoyalBlak007:
Is it logical to conclude that since our creator God made man after himself
It is a fact and is true, that Man is made after the image of God

RoyalBlak007:
and we know we have sense of humor, that he will have one too?
Share your thoughts please.

Cc lalasticlala
Cc Seun
God, among a few other examples, demonstrates a strong sense of humor, with a genetic architectural by-product found in males, by allowing males to have redundant niiipples

God left males to keep niiipples for a laugh
CelebritiesRe: Don Jazzy Flaunts His London Bodyguard On Instagram by QuentinDay: 9:07pm On May 09, 2016
maxdozie:
Mavins Boss Don jazzy who has been having a Good Time in London shared a photo of his London BodyGuard few Min Ago

Captioned it
“Chidi this my london bodyguard go beat you o. Lol cc @babyfreshmavin @altimsmavin @chidimavin”

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFMGEHMtR5B/
kenonze:
Pls help that man.
He wants to suffocate
PiccoloBrunelli:
"Bodyguard" ko "Kevin Hart on steroids" ni.

Say No to Steroids. And who else thinks it's cooler when your bodyguard is TALLER than you are......not the other way round.

The bodyguard reminds me of 2Tim3:1-5: "In the last days, men will be puffed up with pride."

All the shoulder just spread like yesterday bread.
https://s32.postimg.org/j2fhd16rp/Ashley_Cole.jpg
Christianity EtcRe: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by QuentinDay: 6:49pm On May 08, 2016
Syncan:
Hahahaha, you see, calling what I wrote "smoke and mirrors" doesn't prevent it from being true. You can't just wish it away. You find the truth bitter and all you could do is just keep typing while hoping to make sense. Anyway, I'll let you be
Lies cant keep up with truth, lies run sprints, but truth runs marathons. Lies lack stamina, that is why you have to let be. Hahahaha, you see.

Syncan:
In your mind all those people that spread the goodnews all over the ends of the earth,preaching Christ crucified, blessing people and lands with the sign, planting the Cross on lands conquered for Christ, baptising people into body of Christ, and who finally died for Christ are going to hell, despite all the signs that God was with them, while you and your fellow endtime jehova witnesses will be in heaven abi earth... I don't even know the one you seek again sef. Don't worry, am not going to start going up and down scriptures with you, I simply just want to make common sense cheesy
Matthew 7:22-23
22On that day, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?'
23Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’

God or the Bible never authorised the veneration of the cross except one wants to be a lawbreaker of Exodus 20:4

Exodus 20:4's get out clause, is only when you are clearly and without doubt instructed by God to build or create images, as were the examples of the Ark of God aka Ark of the Covenant aka The Ark of the Testimony or the bronze serpent on a pole

Don't worry Matthew 7:22-23 shall not be your portion, if you arent the sort that kneels before a cross/crucifix and kissing it, bow down to the cross, bow down to the Kaaba, touch or kiss the Kaaba which are symbols of worship of gods made of wood/cross and stone/Kaaba as predicted will happen or as prophesied in
Deuteronomy 4:28, Deuteronomy 28:36 and Deuteronomy 28:64

Syncan:
Meanwhile when next you discuss with me, try not to break my posts into tiny parts as you like, it's a haven for mischief and dishonesty, I don't bother with such posts.
Hahahaha, you won't get off lightly
Not always but when it's done, your posts are deconstructed, in order to blow-by-blow reveal the false statements in them, that are unashamedly presented as if they were true
Christianity EtcRe: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by QuentinDay: 1:54pm On May 08, 2016
Syncan:
They did all those and God showed His mighty presence in their midst.
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Syncan:
Who are you then to dictate for God
Nothing to do with me
Your grousing should be with the second commandment, the Bible and not me

Syncan:
don't you think you failed to understand Him?
You've abysmally failed to understand that the original poster has no problem with the message or power of the cross

Syncan:
Josh 7:6, he did right in the face of God too.
Please dont try to be deceitful here as you will be misleading others with ''he did right in the face of God''

Dont make dubious similarities
2 Kings 18:3-4 and Joshua 7:6 are incompatible
2 Kings 18:3-4 was keeping the second commandment, but what was Joshua 7:6 keeping?

Joshua, in Joshua 7:6, is more a case of ''he did right in his own eyes' and not ''did right in the face of God''

Syncan:
Meanwhile all these your vibrations does not remove the fact the OP said " The Cross: a symbol of the accursed and not Christianity"
The original poster explained further in the body of his original post what he meant by "The Cross: a symbol of the accursed and not Christianity"

Syncan:
And I said no, I follow Jesus, he died on the cross, and in Jn 3:14
Fine and good on you if you follow Jesus etc and you are not doing any of the venerating the cross sort, like wearing the cross on the body, blessing people with the cross sign, kissing the cross, bowing down to the cross

Syncan:
he talked about it as a symbol. Thank you and God bless.
To whom it is applicable, kissing the cross, bowing down to the cross, bowing down to the Kaaba, touching or kissing the Kaaba are symbols of worship of gods made of wood/cross and stone/Kaaba as predicted will happen or as prophesied in
Deuteronomy 4:28, Deuteronomy 28:36 and Deuteronomy 28:64
Thank you and God bless.
Christianity EtcRe: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by QuentinDay: 1:53pm On May 08, 2016
Syncan:
Since you jehova witnesses have failed to get my point, let me try one last time to enlighten you. I won't start telling you that when the bronze serpent was destroyed in 2 kings- as quoted by QuentinDay- that the cherubs in the ark of covenant num 20:6, josh 7:6 were not destroyed too, neither do I want to remind you that more Images were built in Solomon's temple afterwards. I will leave those ones to you.
However let me take you to the acts of the apostles. I want to gently bring to your notice the fact that Circumcision to become adopted children of God was scriptural acts 15:5, even Jesus never removed it by words. Yet the apostles saw the works God wrought among the uncircumcised and they knew God supported Paul and co Acts 15:7-10. By that very act, they understood scripture better and knew that Circumcision was never, in the sense they thought, what is necessarily to belong to the family of God. In same manner, Today without wanting to I have pointed to you the works of the early Christians, who spread the gospel to the ends of the earth, who converted your fathers from their man made gods, who laid down their lives for the gospel before tyrants and savages,who destroyed your evil forests and defeated your community demons. I have told you they wore the cross/crucifix, I have told you they planted these in the lands conquered for Christ, I have told you they blessed people including your converted fathers with the sign of the cross, and God wrought miracles as they went. The apostles recognized God's work and were humble enough to accept the truth, but you, no, you are like those brethren who continue to insist that there must be circumcision for the gentiles as if they are God Himself. Smh.
All you posted with images built in Solomon's temple or circumcision for the gentiles are smoke and mirrors
Since you still have failed to get original poster's point that you're not asked to plant the cross on the land, not asked to wear the cross on the bodies, not asked to bless people with the cross sign etc

Paul never asked to plant the cross on the land, not asked to wear the cross on the bodies, not asked to bless people with the cross sign etc

The apostles didnt disregard the commandment of God
and the apostles didnt keep this tradition of men of planting the cross on the land, wearing the cross on the bodies, blessing people with the cross sign, kissing the cross, bowing down to the cross etc
CelebritiesRe: Beautiful New Photo Of Zahra Buhari by QuentinDay:
yarimo:
I hope ZAHRA that box beside you is empty box? Ehh I hope is not what am thinking full inside abi? undecided
https://s32.postimg.org/vx68y0xoh/jack.gif
Jack, Joker or Jerk in the box pops out
Christianity EtcRe: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by QuentinDay: 3:36pm On May 05, 2016
Syncan:
Too much talk, no substance
No surprises, as it all went over your head

Syncan:
End time supposed Christians who have nothing to show Christ for their faith, running to nairaland to condemn the practices of those who taught their fathers Christianity
You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.

Syncan:
All you know about Christianity is the corrupted version of what they taught, Yet when they taught this Christianity to your fathers and to the ends of the earth, they wore the cross, they planted it on lands won for Christ, they blessed converts with it, they gave their lives to the executioners for the gospel wearing the cross, they lived saintly lives and God showed his approval of them by great signs. Today, end time, the devil is fighting his last battle, he is blindly attacking all Semblance of Christianity, modernists cried that it should be removed from schools, now jehova witnesses are killing themselves about my wearing it
You're not asked to plant the cross on the land, not asked to wear the cross on the bodies, not asked to bless people with the cross sign etc

Paul never asked to plant the cross on the land, not asked to wear the cross on the bodies, not asked to bless people with the cross sign etc

Even, if there were Christians doing all that, it doesnt mean, it is right,

Syncan:
Iconoclasm is an old heresy, you are not saying something new
Not an old heresy but is called 2 Kings 18:3-4, doing right in the sight of the LORD

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