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There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 5:24pm On May 16, 2016
Deuteronomy 12:5-7
But unto the place which the LORD your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, and thither thou shalt come:
6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks: 7 And there ye shall eat before the LORD your God, and ye shall rejoice in all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the LORD thy God hath blessed thee


There was no free standing physical temple in ancient Israel where the Israelites worshipped God. In actual fact, the House of God was Jerusalem itself.

And the chambers of the house of the Lord were the houses in Jerusalem.
The vessels of the house of the Lord were the people of Jerusalem, the Jews themselves.

Ezra 8:29
Watch ye, and keep them, until ye weigh them before the chief of the priests and the Levites, and chief of the fathers of Israel, at Jerusalem, in the chambers of the house of the LORD.

Jeremiah 35:4
And I brought them into the house of the LORD, into the chamber of the sons of Hanan, the son of Igdaliah, a man of God, which was by the chamber of the princes, which was above the chamber of Maaseiah the son of Shallum, the keeper of the door:

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Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 5:28pm On May 16, 2016
It is all imagery and symbolism, your worship is the good deeds you extended to your neighbours.

Many people travel on pilgrimage to Israel every year to pray at the so-called Wailing Wall, supposedly the holiest place in the world, because it is the site of the God’s temple that was destroyed in 70AD by the Romans. You have been scammed, there was no temple. The Most High God does not live in temples made with human hands, the heart of man is the temple of God.

The Wailing Wall is the ruins of an old Roman fortress, it was not a temple, it is not the ruins of Solomon's temple, the whole world has been deceived, you Negroes have been scammed of your heritage!

Does anyone understand the true ramifications of this revelation and insight into the Word? It shows that much of the Bible is imagery. It opens up depths of meaning for ‘Jesus going into the temple’, ‘and the veil of the temple was rent in twain’ etc.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 5:31pm On May 16, 2016
Double post.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 5:34pm On May 16, 2016
The vessels of the House Of God are people:

1Chronicles 22:19
Now set your heart and your soul to seek the LORD your God; arise therefore, and build ye the sanctuary of the LORD God, to bring the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and the holy vessels of God, into the house that is to be built to the name of the LORD.

2 Chronicles 36:19-20
And they burnt the house of God, and brake down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof.
20 And them that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they were servants to him and his sons until the reign of the kingdom of Persia:
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 9:57am On May 17, 2016
The Sanctuary of God is Jerusalem itself. They was no physical free standing temple where people gathered to worship God.

Jeremiah 27:21
Yea, thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, concerning the vessels that remain in the house of the LORD, and in the house of the king of Judah and of Jerusalem;
22 They shall be carried to Babylon, and there shall they be until the day that I visit them, saith the LORD; then will I bring them up, and restore them to this place.

Lamentation 2:7
The Lord hath cast off his altar, he hath abhorred his sanctuary, he hath given up into the hand of the enemy the walls of her palaces; they have made a noise in the house of the LORD, as in the day of a solemn feast.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 10:01am On May 17, 2016
1Chronicles 22:19
Now set your heart and your soul to seek the LORD your God; arise therefore, and build ye the sanctuary of the LORD God, to bring the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and the holy vessels of God, into the house that is to be built to the name of the LORD.

Lamentation 2:7
The Lord hath cast off his altar, he hath abhorred his sanctuary, he hath given up into the hand of the enemy the walls of her palaces; they have made a noise in the house of the LORD, as in the day of a solemn feast.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 10:05am On May 17, 2016
My point is to show you all that there was no temple, if you can go through the references I have given you will see that there was no temple. There was no building called the temple of God.

The Wailing Wall as a part Solomon's temple or it's being the holiest place in the world is a COMPLETE LIE!

We are all living in a fake and concocted Matrix of lies.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 10:35am On May 17, 2016
Psalm 122

122 I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord.

2 Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.

3 Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:

4 Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord.

5 For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.

6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

7 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.

8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

9 Because of the house of the Lord our God I will seek thy good.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by QuentinDay: 10:56am On May 17, 2016
MrPresident1:
It is all imagery and symbolism, your worship is the good deeds you extended to your neighbours.

Many people travel on pilgrimage to Israel every year to pray at the so-called Wailing Wall, supposedly the holiest place in the world, because it is the site of the God’s temple that was destroyed in 70AD by the Romans.
You have been scammed, there was no temple. The Most High God does not live in temples made with human hands, the heart of man is the temple of God.

The Wailing Wall is the ruins of an old Roman fortress, it was not a temple, it is not the ruins of Solomon's temple, the whole world has been deceived, you Negroes have been scammed of your heritage!

Does anyone understand the true ramifications of this revelation and insight into the Word? It shows that much of the Bible is imagery. It opens up depths of meaning for ‘Jesus going into the temple’, ‘and the veil of the temple was rent in twain’ etc.
Mark 13:1-4
1As Jesus was leaving the Temple that day,
one of his disciples said, “Teacher, look at these magnificent buildings! Look at the impressive stones in the walls.”
2Jesus replied, “Yes, look at these great buildings. But they will be completely demolished. Not one stone will be left on top of another!”
3Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives across the valley from the Temple. Peter, James, John, and Andrew came to him privately and asked him,
4“Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will show us that these things are about to be fulfilled?”

Yimu at ''There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was The Temple Of God''
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 11:11am On May 17, 2016
QuentinDay:
Mark 13:1-4
1As Jesus was leaving the Temple that day,
one of his disciples said, “Teacher, look at these magnificent buildings! Look at the impressive stones in the walls.”
2Jesus replied, “Yes, look at these great buildings. But they will be completely demolished. Not one stone will be left on top of another!”
3Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives across the valley from the Temple. Peter, James, John, and Andrew came to him privately and asked him,
4“Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will show us that these things are about to be fulfilled?”

Yimu at ''There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was The Temple Of God''

You are using a deliberately mistranslated Bible, go and get KJV.

I said earlier in the second post on this thread 'It opens up depths of meaning for ‘Jesus going into the temple’, ‘and the veil of the temple was rent in twain’ etc.'
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by orunto27: 11:27am On May 17, 2016
Praise God for Understanding. God has always spoken to us in Metaphors and Parables. When Christ comes back, there will be Two New Jerusalems- The New Earth and The New Heaven. Christ in God will rule in them both for The Righteous and They will be His Sanctuaries. Sanctuary much!!!!
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by QuentinDay: 11:53am On May 17, 2016
MrPresident1:
You are using a deliberately mistranslated Bible, go and get KJV

I said earlier in the second post on this thread 'It opens up depths of meaning for ‘Jesus going into the temple’, ‘and the veil of the temple was rent in twain’ etc.'
Presidente trust me, I laid out as many translations including KJV as possible before responding to the post
Hiero or hieron means a holy shrine or temple, no contesting.

''and the veil of the temple was rent in twain'' was rent into two, as the Holy of Holies curtain was ripped or torn apart making way to see the inner sanctuary
because now all, NOT JUST ONLY THE PRIESTS, have direct access to come BOLDLY to the throne of grace and approach it with confidence to obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need
Each now, without human intermediary or without need of human go-between, have direct access to God, just as it was in the beginning, particularly as was with Adam before the fall
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 12:24pm On May 17, 2016
QuentinDay:
Presidente trust me, [b]I laid out as many translations including KJV as possible before [/b]responding to the post
Hiero or hieron means a holy shrine or temple, no contesting.

''and the veil of the temple was rent in twain'' was rent into two, as the Holy of Holies curtain was ripped or torn apart making way to see the inner sanctuary
because now all, NOT JUST ONLY THE PRIESTS, have direct access to come BOLDLY to the throne of grace and approach it with confidence to obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need
Each now, without human intermediary or without need of human go-between, have direct access to God, just as it was in the beginning, particularly as was with Adam before the fall

You do not need to read from many translations, you need only the KJV.

The Bible has been deliberately mistranslated to keep the true contents of the book from its owners. If the light of the Word of God does not shine on the true owners of the Bible, the biblical Israelites, the Negros, they cannot arise from the dead. But they will surely arise, it is the infallible promise of THE MOST HIGH GOD. ISRAEL WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD, IN GOD'S EYES, SHE HAS ALREADY RISEN wink

1 Corinthians 6:19
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


There was no free standing physical structure/building called the Temple of God; the house of God is Jerusalem itself, and the temple of God were the Jews in Jerusalem.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by QuentinDay: 12:37pm On May 17, 2016
MrPresident1:
My point is to show you all that there was no temple, if you can go through the references I have given you will see that there was no temple. There was no building called the temple of God
Mark 13:1-4 among plenty others disagrees

MrPresident1:
The Wailing Wall as a part Solomon's temple or it's being the holiest place in the world is a COMPLETE LIE!
Yup, no different to Santa Klaus or the tooth fairy

MrPresident1:
We are all living in a fake and concocted Matrix of lies.
Yup just like the Father Christmas and tooth fairy pack of lies

MrPresident1:
You do not need to read from many translations, you need only the KJV
KJV isnt infallible

MrPresident1:
The Bible has been deliberately mistranslated to keep the true contents of the book from its owners. If the light of the Word of God does not shine on the true owners of the Bible, the biblical Israelites, the Negros, they cannot arise from the dead. But they will surely arise, it is the infallible promise of THE MOST HIGH GOD. ISRAEL WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD, IN GOD'S EYES, SHE HAS ALREADY RISEN wink
Bible translations are politically and vested interest translated which is why the rule of thumb is to look and compare as many translations as possible then match each with the original in Hebrew or Greek to make an arrived best judgment

MrPresident1:
1 Corinthians 6:19
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [/size]which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
Reading in isolation is a pretext and not only gives a false sense of comprehension but open to manipulation or misrepresenting the truth.
Reading text in context is wise.

MrPresident1:
There was no free standing physical structure/building called the Temple of God; the house of God is Jerusalem itself, and the temple of God were the Jews in Jerusalem.
LOL Yimu
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 1:09pm On May 17, 2016
QuentinDay:
Mark 13:1-4 among plenty others disagrees

Mark 13:1-4
13 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,
4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

Lamentations 4:1
How is the gold become dim! how is the most fine gold changed! [size=14pt]the stones of the sanctuary are poured out in the top of every street.
The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold, [/size]how are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!


Can you see how Lamentations interprets the stones of the sanctuary? The sanctuary is Jerusalem, and the stones are the people; the precious sons of Zion. It is all figurative language. I invite everyone observing this exchange to check through the references objectively.

cc: dragunov and kingebukasblog. Just wanted you guys to see this linkage of Scriptures above, how Scriptures interprets itself

Yup, no different to Santa Klaus or the tooth fairy

Your point is?

Yup just like the Father Christmas and tooth fairy pack of lies

Your point again is?

KJV isnt infallible

Bible translations are politically and vested interest translated which is why the rule of thumb is to look and compare as many translations as possible then match each with the original in Hebrew or Greek to make an arrived best judgment

Reading in isolation is a pretext and not only gives a false sense of comprehension but open to manipulation or misrepresenting the truth.
Reading text in context is wise.

The Bible interprets itself, you do not need to garnish the truth, the truth is self sustaining, and even if it is faced with ICBMs, it will still overcome. The KJV escaped before it could be corrupted, it is no longer even popular, but it is still the sharpest and most accessible Sword.

The rule of the thumb as you say, is the rule of confusion, God is not the author of confusion, we are not ignorant of the devises of satan wink. What is the purpose of the numerous translations?
Revelation 22:19
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


LOL Yimu
wink
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 5:31pm On May 19, 2016
Isaiah 44:28
That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by Ishilove: 8:45pm On May 19, 2016
Issorait
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by ayoku777(m): 5:56am On May 20, 2016
MrPresident1:
Deuteronomy 12:5-7
But unto the place which the LORD your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, and thither thou shalt come:
6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks: 7 And there ye shall eat before the LORD your God, and ye shall rejoice in all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the LORD thy God hath blessed thee


There was no free standing physical temple in ancient Israel where the Israelites worshipped God. In actual fact, the House of God was Jerusalem itself.

And the chambers of the house of the Lord were the houses in Jerusalem.
The vessels of the house of the Lord were the people of Jerusalem, the Jews themselves.

Ezra 8:29
Watch ye, and keep them, until ye weigh them before the chief of the priests and the Levites, and chief of the fathers of Israel, at Jerusalem, in the chambers of the house of the LORD.

Jeremiah 35:4
And I brought them into the house of the LORD, into the chamber of the sons of Hanan, the son of Igdaliah, a man of God, which was by the chamber of the princes, which was above the chamber of Maaseiah the son of Shallum, the keeper of the door:

Ofcourse there was a literal temple in the city of Jerusalem.

Look at this scripture;

1King 6- 1 And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the Lord.

And the house which king Solomon built for the Lord, the length thereof was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits.


A biblical cubit is measured as the lenght or distance between the middle finger and the elbow; which is 17.5inches or 44.5cm or .45m for a short arm and 20.6 inches or 52cm or .52m for a long arm.

According to the scripture;

The length of the temple was 60cubits, that is, 31.2metres

The breadth of the temple was 20cubits, that is, 10.4metres

And the height of the temple was 30cubits, that is, 15.6meters.

Does this look like the dimensions of a city to you? This is just approximately the size of a basketball court. And these are the measurements of the temple of Solomon according to the scriptures.

So if Jerusalem is the temple as you claim, then you're saying that the city of Jerusalem is just the size of a basketball court, because that is the measurement of the temple according to the scripture.

Even the dimensions of Noah's ark was larger than the temple of Solomon, so how can the city of Jerusalem be the temple?

I think this shows clearly that there was a literal temple built in the city of Jerusalem.

Shalom
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 1:36pm On May 20, 2016
ayoku777:


Ofcourse there was a literal temple in the city of Jerusalem.

Look at this scripture;

1King 6- 1 And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the Lord.

And the house which king Solomon built for the Lord, the length thereof was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits.


A biblical cubit is measured as the lenght or distance between the middle finger and the elbow; which is 17.5inches or 44.5cm or .45m for a short arm and 20.6 inches or 52cm or .52m for a long arm.

According to the scripture;

The length of the temple was 60cubits, that is, 31.2metres

The breadth of the temple was 20cubits, that is, 10.4metres

And the height of the temple was 30cubits, that is, 15.6meters.

Does this look like the dimensions of a city to you? This is just approximately the size of a basketball court. And these are the measurements of the temple of Solomon according to the scriptures.

So if Jerusalem is the temple as you claim, then you're saying that the city of Jerusalem is just the size of a basketball court, because that is the measurement of the temple according to the scripture.

Even the dimensions of Noah's ark was larger than the temple of Solomon, so how can the city of Jerusalem be the temple?

I think this shows clearly that there was a literal temple built in the city of Jerusalem.

Shalom

A bit of inferential reasoning is needed here to be able to see the big picture, so I will approach this matter through inference, if you continue reading up to verse 7:

1Kings 6:7
And the house, when it was in building, was built of stone made ready before it was brought thither: so that there was neither hammer nor axe nor any tool of iron heard in the house, while it was in building.

Lamentations 4:1
How is the gold become dim! how is the most fine gold changed! the stones of the sanctuary are poured out in the top of every street.
2 The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold, how are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!

Luke 21:5
And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,


The stones of the temple are men and Jerusalem itself was the temple or the house of God. See this verse again

Ephesians 2:19-20
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


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Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 1:37pm On May 20, 2016
Ishilove:
Issorait

Issok cool
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by tartar9(m): 1:50pm On May 20, 2016
Yavweh says something very lucidly,you say say another thing
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 1:53pm On May 20, 2016
tartar9:
Yavweh says something very lucidly,you say say another thing

Everything I say is from the Bible smiley
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 9:32am On May 21, 2016
Ireneony good morning grin
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by ireneony(f): 9:51am On May 21, 2016
MrPresident1:
Ireneony good morning grin
good morning
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 9:56am On May 21, 2016
ireneony:
good morning

Have you read this thread? I want you to read it. Read it with an open and scientific mind cheesy
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 11:15pm On Jun 01, 2016
Dry bones shall rise again, king Nebuchadnezzar will be back, it is the infallible promise of The Most High God.

King Nebu who is eating grass in the wilderness like a beast will regain his senses in a short while, already his advance party are now in town.

All those who oppressed Nebu during his time in the wilderness will pay for their sins grin
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 10:56am On Aug 07, 2016
Read grin
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 9:15am On Oct 23, 2016
The Most High does not live in temples made with human hands.

Na we people be temple of God cheesy
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:06pm On Dec 03, 2016
MrPresident1:
The Most High does not live in temples made with human hands.

Na we people be temple of God cheesy

So what's the use of the High Priests then and the Levites who were Kohens
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 10:09pm On Dec 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


So what's the use of the High Priests then and the Levites who were Kohens

They were teachers, teachers and interpreters of the law.
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:11pm On Dec 03, 2016
MrPresident1:


They were teachers, teachers and interpreters of the law.

And why did they perform sacrificial offerings ?
Re: There Was No Physical Temple, Jerusalem Itself Was/Is The House Of God. by MrPresident1: 10:33pm On Dec 03, 2016
Deuteronomy 16:11
And thou shalt rejoice before the Lord thy God, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are among you, in the place which the Lord thy God hath chosen to place his name there.

Deuteronomy 12:21
If the place which the Lord thy God hath chosen to put his name there be too far from thee, then thou shalt kill of thy herd and of thy flock, which the Lord hath given thee, as I have commanded thee, and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.

1 Kings 11:36
And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there.


KingEbukasBlog:


And why did they perform sacrificial offerings ?

The Israelites killed and ate their sacrifices in their gates (in their homes) in Jerusalem the temple of God, the place He chose to put His name there.

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